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![]() Yesterday I opened a can of Eagle Brand Sweetened Condensed Milk, as was making slice & bake cookies that called for 1/8 cup of that type of milk, and so now I have this 14 oz. can in the refrigerator, minus that amount. It costs over $3 a can here now, so I hate to just throw it out, but all the recipes I can recollect using it for, call for the entire can, so does anyone know of something I could make to use up the remainder? Thanks for any ideas! Judy |
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On Oct 30, 12:41*pm, (Judy Haffner) wrote:
> Yesterday I opened a can of Eagle Brand Sweetened Condensed Milk, as was > making slice & bake cookies that called for 1/8 cup of that type of > milk, and so now I have this 14 oz. can in the refrigerator, minus that > amount. It costs over $3 a can here now, so I hate to just throw it out, > but all the recipes I can recollect using it for, call for the entire > can, so does anyone know of something I could make to use up the > remainder? > > Thanks for any ideas! > > Judy Individual Key Lime tarts? |
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Put it in your coffee?
Not my thing, but some people dig it. |
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On 10/30/2011 11:41 AM, Judy Haffner wrote:
> > Yesterday I opened a can of Eagle Brand Sweetened Condensed Milk, as was > making slice& bake cookies that called for 1/8 cup of that type of > milk, and so now I have this 14 oz. can in the refrigerator, minus that > amount. It costs over $3 a can here now, so I hate to just throw it out, > but all the recipes I can recollect using it for, call for the entire > can, so does anyone know of something I could make to use up the > remainder? > > Thanks for any ideas! > > Judy > Do you have some sweetened, flaked coconut? Mix it with the canned milk until you can form small balls. Bake them until they begin to turn golden. You can top the macaroons with a half of a candied cherry if you have them. -- Janet Wilder Posting from the Netbaby |
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On 10/30/2011 10:41 AM, Judy Haffner wrote:
> > Yesterday I opened a can of Eagle Brand Sweetened Condensed Milk, as was > making slice& bake cookies that called for 1/8 cup of that type of > milk, and so now I have this 14 oz. can in the refrigerator, minus that > amount. It costs over $3 a can here now, so I hate to just throw it out, > but all the recipes I can recollect using it for, call for the entire > can, so does anyone know of something I could make to use up the > remainder? More cookies. |
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On 10/30/2011 10:41 AM, Judy Haffner wrote:
> > Yesterday I opened a can of Eagle Brand Sweetened Condensed Milk, as was > making slice& bake cookies that called for 1/8 cup of that type of > milk, and so now I have this 14 oz. can in the refrigerator, minus that > amount. It costs over $3 a can here now, so I hate to just throw it out, > but all the recipes I can recollect using it for, call for the entire > can, so does anyone know of something I could make to use up the > remainder? > > Thanks for any ideas! > > Judy > Most any recipe you have for a whole can won't suffer much from 1/8 cup (2 Tbsp?) less of the milk. Youc an always add 1/8 cup of milk or other liquid to make up the deficit. gloria p |
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![]() > can, so does anyone know of something I could make to use up the > remainder? I refrain from replying for obvious reasons.. nb |
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Judy Haffner wrote:
> Yesterday I opened a can of Eagle Brand Sweetened Condensed Milk, as was > making slice & bake cookies that called for 1/8 cup of that type of > milk, and so now I have this 14 oz. can in the refrigerator, minus that > amount. It costs over $3 a can here now, so I hate to just throw it out, > but all the recipes I can recollect using it for, call for the entire > can, so does anyone know of something I could make to use up the > remainder? > > Thanks for any ideas! > > Judy > You could transform it into dulce de leche, obviously not using the boiled can method. -- Jean B. |
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![]() Judy Haffner wrote: > > Yesterday I opened a can of Eagle Brand Sweetened Condensed Milk, as was > making slice & bake cookies that called for 1/8 cup of that type of > milk, and so now I have this 14 oz. can in the refrigerator, minus that > amount. It costs over $3 a can here now, so I hate to just throw it out, > but all the recipes I can recollect using it for, call for the entire > can, so does anyone know of something I could make to use up the > remainder? > > Thanks for any ideas! > > Judy Hot fudge. In a heavy saucepan melt two squares of unsweetened baking chocolate, add the can (or most of a can) of sweetened condensed milk. Heat and stir until evenly blended. Apply to your sundae, banana split, etc. |
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![]() > > Judy Haffner wrote: >> >> Yesterday I opened a can of Eagle Brand Sweetened Condensed Milk, as was >> making slice & bake cookies that called for 1/8 cup of that type of >> milk, and so now I have this 14 oz. can in the refrigerator, minus that >> amount. It costs over $3 a can here now, so I hate to just throw it out, >> but all the recipes I can recollect using it for, call for the entire >> can, so does anyone know of something I could make to use up the >> remainder? >> >> Thanks for any ideas! I frequently use it in Jello 'Cook' pudding mixes. Makes chocolate pudding (with vanilla wafers) or vanilla pudding (with bananas) just a little richer and sweeter. Since I use fat-free milk, the addition of 'some' condensed milk helps. Polly |
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On 10/30/2011 2:18 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> On Sun, 30 Oct 2011 08:41:34 -0800, Judy Haffner wrote: > >> Yesterday I opened a can of Eagle Brand Sweetened Condensed Milk, as was >> making slice& bake cookies that called for 1/8 cup of that type of >> milk, and so now I have this 14 oz. can in the refrigerator, minus that >> amount. It costs over $3 a can here now, so I hate to just throw it out, >> but all the recipes I can recollect using it for, call for the entire >> can, so does anyone know of something I could make to use up the >> remainder? > > For 2 tablespoons of milk I wouldn't even have bothered opening the > can. I would have used regular milk and a pat of butter, or > something. > > I buy the 5oz cans of a store brand for $.53 to make my fudge. $3 > seems awfully steep. I found them yesterday at the same size, 14 oz, for 3/$4. I only bought one because I just want to have it on hand for a recipe at whim. Same with evap milk. |
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On 30/10/2011 12:41 PM, Judy Haffner wrote:
> > Yesterday I opened a can of Eagle Brand Sweetened Condensed Milk, as was > making slice& bake cookies that called for 1/8 cup of that type of > milk, and so now I have this 14 oz. can in the refrigerator, minus that > amount. It costs over $3 a can here now, so I hate to just throw it out, > but all the recipes I can recollect using it for, call for the entire > can, so does anyone know of something I could make to use up the > remainder? > Take this recipe and adjust by whatever to match proportions of the remainder of the SCM I can SCM pint cream 4 eggs 1 Tbsp chocolate syrup 10 oz Irish whisky (or any whisky) Put it in a blender and whizz it all together. |
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On Sun, 30 Oct 2011 10:04:54 -0700 (PDT), Kalmia
> wrote: > On Oct 30, 12:41*pm, (Judy Haffner) wrote: > > Yesterday I opened a can of Eagle Brand Sweetened Condensed Milk, as was > > making slice & bake cookies that called for 1/8 cup of that type of > > milk, and so now I have this 14 oz. can in the refrigerator, minus that > > amount. It costs over $3 a can here now, so I hate to just throw it out, > > but all the recipes I can recollect using it for, call for the entire > > can, so does anyone know of something I could make to use up the > > remainder? > > > > Thanks for any ideas! > > > > Judy > > Individual Key Lime tarts? Great idea! So little SCM has been used, she can make just about any recipe that calls for a full can - like these recipes Coconut-Pecan Swirl Brownies posted by koko to rfc 3-1-11 http://www.kokoscornerblog.com/mycor...-brownies.html Grilled Bananas: Platanos Asados - Recipe courtesy Alejandro Ramirez http://www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/g...ipe/index.html Easy Flan http://mexicanfood.about.com/od/swee...r/easyflan.htm The Easiest Hot Fudge Sauce You'll Ever Make Posted by Barb Schaller to rfc 12-10-2010 http://www.cookingjunkies.com/rec-fo...ake-40290.html If anyone wants to find the Google groups url to post, fine - I used too much time and got nowhere. Make your own Irish Cream 4 eggs 1 pint cream 1 can sweetened condensed milk 1 tablespoon chocolate syrup 8-10 oz Irish whiskey (or rye or scotch) Put all ingredients in a blender and give it a good whiz. Use your homemade Irish Cream in this Duck Fart (drink recipe) http://www.chow.com/recipes/13717-duck-fart -- All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt. |
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![]() phaeton wrote: >Put it in your coffee? >Not my thing, but some people dig it. That was the first thing I thought of too, but I always use a little fat-free half & half, and the sweetened condensed seems too rich, and also would add sweetness to the coffee, so don't think I'd care for that. Judy |
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![]() Janet Wilder wrote: >Do you have some sweetened, flaked > coconut? Mix it with the canned milk > until you can form small balls. Bake > them until they begin to turn golden. > You can top the macaroons with a half > of a candied cherry if you have them. Thanks, that is a good idea, as my one granddaughter loves macaroons, so know she'd be happy with those. Judy |
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On Oct 30, 12:41*pm, (Judy Haffner) wrote:
> Yesterday I openedacan of Eagle Brand Sweetened Condensed Milk,as wasmaking slice & bake cookies that called for 1/8 cup of that type ofmilk,and sonowI have this14 oz. can in the refrigerator, minus thatamount. It costs over $3acan herenow, so I hate to just throw it out,butall the recipes I can recollect using it for, call for the entirecan, so doesanyone knowof something I could make to use up theremainder? > > Thanks forany ideas! > 'A Moose in Love' is the name of a thoroughbred horse that runs the major track circuit. I understand that your husband is an avid hunter. So I'm going to talk a bit about Moose. I was in Northern Ontario a few years back, and pulled off the road into a small rest area. I got out of my car, and there about 20 yards from me was a big old moose. It looked at me, and I looked at it. I glanced away for a second or two, and when I looked back, the moose was gone. Not a sound. Such a big animal, and not a twig disturbed etc. It was just gone. Around 2000, I was driving at night in Newfoundland. I was warned about the moose. I thought that the Newfies were pulling my leg. But that night, the woods beside the roads were packed with moose. I was speeding, and the mounties pulled me over and warned me. The one officer told me that the prior week, his friend while driving was attacked by a moose. The moose ran up to his car, and slammed his head in the back window. The head of the moose was ripped off. Anyway, I had a moose charge me that night. It ran up to my car, but at the last minute veered away. Whew. Close call. Many wild animals are quiet in the bush. My first experience was with wild Rocky Mountain Sheep. My buddies and I were muckin' about back in the mountains behind Fernie, BC. We came upon a herd of about 10 sheep. I had my camera. I looked down to make the correct F-stops, and shutter speeds. When I looked back, the sheep were gone. Not a sound. Nothing. |
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![]() Pennyaline wrote: >More cookies. (LOL) Yes, that would be an option alright, except one recipe makes 4-1/2 dozen, so I'd end up with enough for an army, though I suppose I could freeze them, but don't care to make that many more of them, even though they are a nice rich butter cookie, and I decorated them with Halloween sprinkles. Judy |
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![]() Sqwertz wrote: >For 2 tablespoons of milk I wouldn't even > have bothered opening the can. I would > have used regular milk and a pat of > butter, or something. I almost didn't, but they always say don't substitute another kind of milk for sweetened condensed, but I'm sure I could have gotten away with it in cookies. >I buy the 5oz cans of a store brand for > $.53 to make my fudge. $3 >seems awfully steep. Never seen them in smaller cans around here..just the 14 oz. size. Everything costs more in Alaska! Judy |
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![]() "Judy Haffner" > wrote in message ... > > phaeton wrote: > >>Put it in your coffee? > >>Not my thing, but some people dig it. > > That was the first thing I thought of too, but I always use a little > fat-free half & half, and the sweetened condensed seems too rich, and > also would add sweetness to the coffee, so don't think I'd care for > that. When I was a child we used to spread it on bread ![]() -- http://www.shop.helpforheroes.org.uk/ |
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![]() Dan Abel wrote: >My wife wants to move to Alaska. That's > one of the reasons I wouldn't want to > move there. Everything, but especially > food, is more expensive. Yes, that is true, but food isn't nearly as expensive in the Southeastern part of the state(where we live) as on up north. One can be careful and thrifty and shop sales. Alaska offers many benefits though, especially to seniors, as we don't pay property taxes up to a $150,000 home, and then just a small percentage for anything over that value. We also get one vehicle licensed free per year, and don't pay sales tax. There is no State tax here, or school tax, and every man, woman and child, that has been a resident of the state, gets a Permanent Fund Dividend check from Oil Royalties every fall. This year is amounted to $1174, but it changes every year. Judy |
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On 10/30/2011 1:55 PM, Dan Abel wrote:
> My wife wants to move to Alaska. That's one of the reasons I wouldn't > want to move there. Everything, but especially food, is more expensive. > After having spent more time than we were inclined to while awaiting a new transmission for our truck, we got to meet many Alaskans. Most of them had emmigrated there because they didn't like living in the lower 48. Too many rules, too many people and all that. Everyone seemed to have a story about why they hated it in the lower 48. As my DH says, it's a state populated by disfunctionals. There is some nice scenery up there, but If I had my choice, I'd go to the Canadian Rockies. Much more scenery without having to travel so much and civilized people. JMHO -- Janet Wilder Posting from the Netbaby |
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On 30/10/2011 2:55 PM, Dan Abel wrote:
> >> I buy the 5oz cans of a store brand for $.53 to make my fudge. $3 >> seems awfully steep. > > My wife wants to move to Alaska. That's one of the reasons I wouldn't > want to move there. Everything, but especially food, is more expensive. > From what I have read, it is no more expensive to live in an Alaskan city than most other US cities, though groceries etc. are more expensive in remote areas. On the plus side... lots of high paying job,s low state taxes and the annual state payout to residents, over $2,000 per resident per year. |
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![]() sf wrote: >Great idea! So little SCM has been used, >she can make just about any recipe that > calls for a full can - like these recipes <snipped for length> Thanks for all the options....for sure I will check them out. I've used SCM a lot over the years, but every recipe idea I found, or thought of, uses a entire can of it, and wasn't sure if substituting 2 tbsp. of another type of milk would be successful. Judy |
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On 30/10/2011 4:40 PM, Janet Wilder wrote:
> > Most of them had emmigrated there because they didn't like living in the > lower 48. Too many rules, too many people and all that. Everyone seemed > to have a story about why they hated it in the lower 48. Like a lot of people in western Canada. They have to adopt the hate the east attitude to fit in socially. > As my DH says, it's a state populated by disfunctionals. This is the state that elected Sarah Palin. Hell, it is a state where someone the likes of her could enter the political arena. > |
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![]() "Dave Smith" > wrote in message m... > On 30/10/2011 2:55 PM, Dan Abel wrote: > >> >>> I buy the 5oz cans of a store brand for $.53 to make my fudge. $3 >>> seems awfully steep. >> >> My wife wants to move to Alaska. That's one of the reasons I wouldn't >> want to move there. Everything, but especially food, is more expensive. >> > > From what I have read, it is no more expensive to live in an Alaskan city > than most other US cities, though groceries etc. are more expensive in > remote areas. On the plus side... lots of high paying job,s low state > taxes and the annual state payout to residents, over $2,000 per resident > per year. That is not necessarily true. I know people who moved to Alaska and were unable to stay there because it did cost so much to live there. |
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Dan Abel wrote:
> > My wife wants to move to Alaska. That's one of the reasons I wouldn't > want to move there. Everything, but especially food, is more expensive. Same argument applies to Hawaii. |
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Sqwertz > wrote: > On Sun, 30 Oct 2011 12:28:03 -0800, Judy Haffner wrote: > > > Sqwertz wrote: > > > >>For 2 tablespoons of milk I wouldn't even > >> have bothered opening the can. I would > >> have used regular milk and a pat of > >> butter, or something. > > > > I almost didn't, but they always say don't substitute another kind of > > milk for sweetened condensed, but I'm sure I could have gotten away with > > it in cookies. > > > >>I buy the 5oz cans of a store brand for > >> $.53 to make my fudge. $3 > >>seems awfully steep. > > > > Never seen them in smaller cans around here..just the 14 oz. size. > > > > Everything costs more in Alaska! > > DO you live in Alaska? Ealrier you said you live in the SE U.S. SE *ALASKA*. That thing that looks like peninsula on some maps but isn't. > You're not making much sense in this thread. Which doesn't surprise > me. ? -- Dan Abel Petaluma, California USA |
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Judy Haffner wrote:
> Yesterday I opened a can of Eagle Brand Sweetened Condensed Milk, as > was making slice & bake cookies that called for 1/8 cup of that type > of milk, and so now I have this 14 oz. can in the refrigerator, minus > that amount. It costs over $3 a can here now, so I hate to just throw > it out, but all the recipes I can recollect using it for, call for > the entire can, so does anyone know of something I could make to use > up the remainder? > > Thanks for any ideas! > > Judy There are some "no cook" fudge recipes out there - I'd have to ask my wife for the details but involve things like melting chocolate chips, adding sweetened condensed milk, some vanilla, and, well, that's it - you pour it into something and let it cool. -S- |
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![]() A Moose In Love wrote: >I understand that your husband is an > avid hunter. So I'm going to talk a bit > about Moose. I was in Northern Ontario > a few years back, and pulled off the > road into a small rest area. I got out of > my car, and there about 20 yards from > me was a big old moose. It looked at > me, and I looked at it. I glanced away > for a second or two, and when I looked > back, the moose was gone. Not a > sound. Such a big animal, and not a > twig disturbed etc. It was just gone. Enjoyed hearing about your moose experiences, etc. They can really get angry (particularly when they are in rut and wanting a lady moose (cow) but they are very unpredictable, and can't be trusted. My husband has shot many of them through the years, and even rescued a newborn calf from the river near his cabin. Just a few minutes longer, and it would have drowned. He thinks a brown bear must have gotten the mother. We love the meat...it is much better than beef, and as I understand it, it is the only meat that has vitamin C in it, so good for preventing colds! ![]() Judy |
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![]() Janet Wilder wrote: >As my DH says, it's a state populated by > disfunctionals. Not at all true. Just because people move to Alaska to escape the "rat race" in the South 48, doesn't exactly make them dysfunctional. Besides anywhere a person lives, or travels to, you're going to run into less than civilized people and undesirables maybe. >There is some nice scenery up there, but > If I had my choice, I'd go to the > Canadian Rockies. Much more scenery > without having to travel so much and > civilized people. JMHO I'm not sure what part(s) of the state you were in? but the Southeastern part of the state has abundant raw natural beauty and is truly "God's Country". I was born and raised in the capital city of Alaska, and have traveled to several places, but am always glad to get back home, as to me there is no greater place in the world. Judy |
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![]() Dave Smith wrote: >This is the state that elected Sarah Palin. > Hell, it is a state where someone the > likes of her could enter the political > arena. You're durn tootin' and she was one of the best governors we ever had. We have the highest respect and great admiration for her. We have met the whole family and they are the nicest people you would ever hope to meet. Her Top Aide, during the time she was governor of Alaska, is my husband's best friend and hunting partner. Judy |
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![]() "Judy Haffner" > wrote in message ... > > Janet Wilder wrote: > >>As my DH says, it's a state populated by >> disfunctionals. > > Not at all true. Just because people move to Alaska to escape the "rat > race" in the South 48, doesn't exactly make them dysfunctional. Besides > anywhere a person lives, or travels to, you're going to run into less > than civilized people and undesirables maybe. > >>There is some nice scenery up there, but >> If I had my choice, I'd go to the >> Canadian Rockies. Much more scenery >> without having to travel so much and >> civilized people. JMHO > > I'm not sure what part(s) of the state you were in? but the Southeastern > part of the state has abundant raw natural beauty and is truly "God's > Country". I was born and raised in the capital city of Alaska, and have > traveled to several places, but am always glad to get back home, as to > me there is no greater place in the world. > I have never been there and really have no desire to. I have been told it is beautiful but I am not an outdoorsy person and dislike cold weather and especially snow and ice. I like it best here in WA. Yes, people do tend to be outdoorsy here but we do not usually have extremes in weather nor do we have a lot of sunshine so for me it is doable. |
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On Oct 30, 3:15*pm, (Judy Haffner) wrote:
> phaeton wrote: > >Put it in your coffee? > >Not my thing, but some people dig it. > > That was the first thing I thought of too, but I always use a little > fat-free half & half, and the sweetened condensed seems too rich, and > also would add sweetness to the coffee, so don't think I'd care for > that. What's in fat-free half & half? You are a fool. Who could be stupid enough to pay real food prices for that crap? YOU, Judy Haffner of WebTV. > > Judy --Bryan |
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![]() Sqwertz wrote: >DO you live in Alaska? Ealrier you said > you live in the SE U.S. I never said no such thing. I've said it several times in this group that I live in Alaska....always have and always will. I live in the Southeastern part of THE state. >You're not making much sense in this > thread. Which doesn't surprise me. From what I've read so far, you don't make sense in ANY of the threads, so put that in your pipe and smoke it! =:-} Judy |
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![]() Dan Abel wrote: >SE *ALASKA*. That thing that looks like > peninsula on some maps but isn't. Thanks, Dan...for reading and being able to comprehend. I do appreciate your post. ![]() Judy |
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On Sun, 30 Oct 2011 18:00:02 -0700 (PDT), Bryan
> wrote: > On Oct 30, 3:15*pm, (Judy Haffner) wrote: > > phaeton wrote: > > >Put it in your coffee? > > >Not my thing, but some people dig it. > > > > That was the first thing I thought of too, but I always use a little > > fat-free half & half, and the sweetened condensed seems too rich, and > > also would add sweetness to the coffee, so don't think I'd care for > > that. > > What's in fat-free half & half? You are a fool. Who could be stupid > enough to pay real food prices for that crap? > YOU, Judy Haffner of WebTV. > > You're objecting to the carrageenan? http://dairyspot.com/q-what-is-fat-free-half-and-half -- All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt. |
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![]() Julie Bove wrote: >I have never been there and really have > no desire to. I have been told it is > beautiful but I am not an outdoorsy > person and dislike cold weather and > especially snow and ice. >I like it best here in WA. Yes, people do > tend to be outdoorsy here but we do not > usually have extremes in weather nor do > we have a lot of sunshine so for me it is > doable. That's a misconception many have about Alaska. Where we live, it is very mild, and not near as cold as many states. We just had our first frost last week, and no snow yet, and back East, they are dealing with PILES of snow, power outages, etc. It rarely gets down into the teens for lows in the winter at night, and we don't have all that much snow either. Our summers are warm and pleasant...no humidity and no triple digit temperatures either. We get quite a bit of rain year around, but probably no more than you do in WA. We've been there, and have many friends living there, and they complain about so much rain. I'm not an outdoor's person either, but I love it here. You don't have to be an outdoor's enthusiast to enjoy living here. Judy P.S. We also don't have to deal with hurricanes, tornadoes, ice storms, blizzards, and severe flooding either and even thunder/lightening is a rare occurrence. |
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![]() "Judy Haffner" > wrote in message ... > > Julie Bove wrote: > >>I have never been there and really have >> no desire to. I have been told it is >> beautiful but I am not an outdoorsy >> person and dislike cold weather and >> especially snow and ice. > >>I like it best here in WA. Yes, people do >> tend to be outdoorsy here but we do not >> usually have extremes in weather nor do >> we have a lot of sunshine so for me it is >> doable. > > That's a misconception many have about Alaska. Where we live, it is very > mild, and not near as cold as many states. We just had our first frost > last week, and no snow yet, and back East, they are dealing with PILES > of snow, power outages, etc. It rarely gets down into the teens for lows > in the winter at night, and we don't have all that much snow either. Our > summers are warm and pleasant...no humidity and no triple digit > temperatures either. > > We get quite a bit of rain year around, but probably no more than you do > in WA. We've been there, and have many friends living there, and they > complain about so much rain. > > I'm not an outdoor's person either, but I love it here. You don't have > to be an outdoor's enthusiast to enjoy living here. > > Judy > P.S. We also don't have to deal with hurricanes, tornadoes, ice storms, > blizzards, and severe flooding either and even thunder/lightening is a > rare occurrence. Interesting! I don't think we get a lot of rain here. Sure at times I wish it wouldn't rain so much. But after living in PA, MA, and NY I know they get more rain there than we do here. Lack of sun here, yes! My daughter spent her early years in Alameda CA. She didn't know what rain was. Yes it rained there. Once for about two weeks but mostly at night. I guess she doesn't remember. Rained so hard there was flooding in some areas. We moved from there and were staying overnight in a motel. There was an outdoor pool. She wanted to go in the pool. I kept telling her she couldn't because it was raining. Actually now that I think of it that is probably a silly thing to say. Who would really care about rain in a pool? Or maybe you would. Maybe when coming up for air you would get rain in your nose. Anyway... What I said didn't have a meaning to her and she asked me what those drops of water were coming from the sky? She had never seen rain before. For as nice as the weather was in Alameda (pretty much 70 year round), it wasn't a good place to live. Not IMO. It was expensive. Few good restaurants or places to shop. Pretty much you had to leave the island and go to Oakland or San Francisco. And then you were battling the traffic. I hate traffic! |
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