On Fri, 04 Nov 2011 17:43:59 -0400, Goomba >
wrote:

> When we redid our kitchen a few years ago I worked hard to identify
> storage needs and find solutions to them. One of our best ideas is the
> pull out bins over the fridge and the holders next to them that allow
> tall pans/cutting boards to stand up in the side space. Easy to get to.
> And to think that I had to be convinced of the practicality of having
> such a large, deep cupboard over the fridge!

Do you have a link to illustrate what you're talking about? I'm
having a hard time visualizing it. I hate the space over my double
ovens and I have a high shelf in the laundry room where I keep my
roasting pan.... and dread taking it out because I end up balancing it
on my head while I get off the stool.

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On Nov 4, 10:50*am, "Polly Esther" > wrote:
> "Nancy2" Some of my cupboard doors are useful for hanging stuff on the
> inside,
> and some are too close to shelves. *I do manage to hang my differently-
> sized strainers by fitting them inbetween the shelf edges. *I love the
> 3M Command hooks for things like this - no mess, no holes, no
> permanence.
>
> You bet your boots those 3M hooks are fine. *I have some inside lower
> cabinet doors to hang the quarrelsome racks used to cool cookies and
> whatever. *If left 'at large' the racks will hook onto everything in reach.
> Polly

>
>
I use them too, mighty helpful! And I do hang things to fit between
the shelves. Tiny kitchens certainly make you put your thinking cap
on to tackle quirky storage problems.

On Nov 4, 4:43*pm, Goomba > wrote:
> Nancy2 wrote:
> > Lowe's and Home Depot also carry those wire slide-out racks - the
> > trick is finding ones that fit in your space - don't trust the
> > measurements on the outside of the box unless they include what they
> > measure including the frame. *I have two of those in my bathroom
> > cupboards - very useful. *I'm still thinking about getting one for
> > under the kitchen sink. *But sometimes they take up more space than
> > you want, and don't leave you enough space to put stuff.
>
> > N.
>
> One of my rules is "stuff" doesn't come into my house without having a
> planned storage spot for it. I can't stand kitchens full of clutter and
> brika-brak.
> When we redid our kitchen a few years ago I worked hard to identify
> storage needs and find solutions to them. One of our best ideas is the
> pull out bins over the fridge and the holders next to them that allow
> tall pans/cutting boards to stand up in the side space. Easy to get to.
> * And to think that I had to be convinced of the practicality of having
> such a large, deep cupboard over the fridge!
>
> http://tinypic.com/r/58vic/5
>
> http://tinypic.com/r/n4ab6p/5

>
>
I've got one of those in my narrow linen closet in the bathroom!

When I remodeled my kitchen several years ago I did not opt for the
cabinet over the 'fridge as I'd be dragging out a step stool each time
I needed something. I know, it should be used only for items that are
used infrequently but my Kitchenaid stand mixer rests on top of the
refrigerator.

On Nov 4, 5:23*pm, sf > wrote:
> On Fri, 04 Nov 2011 17:43:59 -0400, Goomba >
> wrote:
>
> > When we redid our kitchen a few years ago I worked hard to identify
> > storage needs and find solutions to them. One of our best ideas is the
> > pull out bins over the fridge and the holders next to them that allow
> > tall pans/cutting boards to stand up in the side space. Easy to get to.
> > * And to think that I had to be convinced of the practicality of having
> > such a large, deep cupboard over the fridge!
>
> Do you have a link to illustrate what you're talking about? *I'm
> having a hard time visualizing it. *I hate the space over my double
> ovens and I have a high shelf in the laundry room where I keep my
> roasting pan.... and dread taking it out because I end up balancing it
> on my head while I get off the stool.
>
>
You didn't see the links for the tiny pic that were posted?

On Fri, 4 Nov 2011 17:19:36 -0700 (PDT), ItsJoanNotJoann
> wrote:

> On Nov 4, 5:23*pm, sf > wrote:
> > On Fri, 04 Nov 2011 17:43:59 -0400, Goomba >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > When we redid our kitchen a few years ago I worked hard to identify
> > > storage needs and find solutions to them. One of our best ideas is the
> > > pull out bins over the fridge and the holders next to them that allow
> > > tall pans/cutting boards to stand up in the side space. Easy to get to.
> > > * And to think that I had to be convinced of the practicality of having
> > > such a large, deep cupboard over the fridge!
> >
> > Do you have a link to illustrate what you're talking about? *I'm
> > having a hard time visualizing it. *I hate the space over my double
> > ovens and I have a high shelf in the laundry room where I keep my
> > roasting pan.... and dread taking it out because I end up balancing it
> > on my head while I get off the stool.
> >
> >
> You didn't see the links for the tiny pic that were posted?

No, I didn't. Can't say why. Maybe I had too many windows open.

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On 11/4/2011 5:43 PM, Goomba wrote:
> One of my rules is "stuff" doesn't come into my house without having a
> planned storage spot for it. I can't stand kitchens full of clutter and
> brika-brak.
> When we redid our kitchen a few years ago I worked hard to identify
> storage needs and find solutions to them. One of our best ideas is the
> pull out bins over the fridge and the holders next to them that allow
> tall pans/cutting boards to stand up in the side space. Easy to get to.
> And to think that I had to be convinced of the practicality of having
> such a large, deep cupboard over the fridge!
>
> http://tinypic.com/r/58vic/5
>
> http://tinypic.com/r/n4ab6p/5

What a great idea for that small space. I will have to look for some
bins like those. I use that space for rolls of wrap products and my
boxes of foodsaver bags but when I need something, many things end up
tumbling out along with the right thing, and those bins would solve that
problem. Thanks for the idea!

On 11/4/2011 4:42 AM, Storrmmee wrote:

> what about putting the shelves your dad built on the other side of the
> doorway, still accessable to the kitchen but not in it?

I'll have to think about that. If they are on the other side of the
inside of the kitchen, they'd be *outside* of the kitchen and basically
in the open dining/living room area. Not sure that will work for me.

"Cheryl" wrote in message ...

On 11/4/2011 4:42 AM, Storrmmee wrote:

> what about putting the shelves your dad built on the other side of the
> doorway, still accessable to the kitchen but not in it?

I'll have to think about that. If they are on the other side of the
inside of the kitchen, they'd be *outside* of the kitchen and basically
in the open dining/living room area. Not sure that will work for me.

- - - - - - - - - -

I have some cookbooks that have been stored on a shelf *inside* the kitchen
for several years. They have not been soiled at all from cooking. The only
problem I can see with storing them in the kitchen would be if they were
stored directly above the stove. Another possibility would be to put them
inside a cabinet that has doors.

MaryL

On 11/4/2011 10:49 AM, Nancy2 wrote:

> Is there a spot in the bathroom where it would be useful? Or
> decoratively useful? Or in your laundry area? Or even in the
> garage? I can almost always find a spot for a shelf or two.

I'm sure I can find a useful place for it. As for the bathroom, I'd need
to start a new thread called "Tiny bathrooms" about that. Have you
ever seen Henry David Thoreau's house at Walden Pond? Well, ok, my
house isn't quite that small.

Here's something I meant about my original question when I thought about
converting those drawers into a small pantry. Kind of pricey, but now I
think I know what I'm looking for. How cool is this!

http://www.drawerslides.com/p/ras-448-bc19-8c

On 11/4/2011 9:08 PM, MaryL wrote:
> I have some cookbooks that have been stored on a shelf *inside* the
> kitchen for several years. They have not been soiled at all from
> cooking. The only problem I can see with storing them in the kitchen
> would be if they were stored directly above the stove.

My mother has, as well. She has a full sized bookcase in her kitchen.

Another
> possibility would be to put them inside a cabinet that has doors.

Not enough storage for that, at least not in the kitchen.

On Fri, 04 Nov 2011 21:00:04 -0400, Cheryl >
wrote:

> On 11/4/2011 4:42 AM, Storrmmee wrote:
>
> > what about putting the shelves your dad built on the other side of the
> > doorway, still accessable to the kitchen but not in it?
>
> I'll have to think about that. If they are on the other side of the
> inside of the kitchen, they'd be *outside* of the kitchen and basically
> in the open dining/living room area. Not sure that will work for me.

Think about how much you have to clean the *top* of your vent hood.
All of that greasy dust will be on your books too.

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On Fri, 04 Nov 2011 22:11:15 -0400, Cheryl >
wrote:

> Here's something I meant about my original question when I thought about
> converting those drawers into a small pantry. Kind of pricey, but now I
> think I know what I'm looking for. How cool is this!
>
> http://www.drawerslides.com/p/ras-448-bc19-8c

I think that's the perfect solution.

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On 11/4/2011 11:30 PM, sf wrote:
> On Fri, 04 Nov 2011 21:00:04 -0400, >
> wrote:
>
>> On 11/4/2011 4:42 AM, Storrmmee wrote:
>>
>>> what about putting the shelves your dad built on the other side of the
>>> doorway, still accessable to the kitchen but not in it?
>>
>> I'll have to think about that. If they are on the other side of the
>> inside of the kitchen, they'd be *outside* of the kitchen and basically
>> in the open dining/living room area. Not sure that will work for me.
>
> Think about how much you have to clean the *top* of your vent hood.
> All of that greasy dust will be on your books too.
>
True. I still have to install the new range hood. I bought a stainless
one that has a slightly smaller depth than the one I have now. I think
the stainless one will be easier to keep clean with products like
Barkeepers Friend.

On Nov 4, 9:11*pm, Cheryl > wrote:
> Here's something I meant about my original question when I thought about
> converting those drawers into a small pantry. *Kind of pricey, but now I
> think I know what I'm looking for. *How cool is this!
>
> http://www.drawerslides.com/p/ras-448-bc19-8c

>
>
Oh, I like that, great idea. Nice and compact but yet easily
accessed.

Here's the one I want for my lower base cabinet, I'll need two and my
base cabinet is very similiar to this one with the center divider/
support piece. I'll get mine at Lowe's as their price is $20 cheaper,
same brand.

http://www.drawerslides.com/p/ras-5wb2-1222-cr

On 11/5/2011 2:06 AM, ItsJoanNotJoann wrote:
> Oh, I like that, great idea. Nice and compact but yet easily
> accessed.
>
> Here's the on

e I want for my lower base cabinet, I'll need two and my
> base cabinet is very similiar to this one with the center divider/
> support piece. I'll get mine at Lowe's as their price is $20 cheaper,
> same brand.
>
> http://www.drawerslides.com/p/ras-5wb2-1222-cr

That is nice as well. I saw a drawer lift for something like a KA that
keeps it out of sight but easy to lift it onto it's own counter top but
that wouldn't work for me either.

> tall pans/cutting boards to stand up in the side space. Easy to get to.
> * And to think that I had to be convinced of the practicality of having
> such a large, deep cupboard over the fridge!
>
> http://tinypic.com/r/58vic/5
>
> http://tinypic.com/r/n4ab6p/5

I love the one I have over the fridge - it's great for those over-
sized pieces.

I have two of those with glass inserts in the doors, fastened together
in the center and with casters on them, that make up my TV console in
the family room - they hold all the attendant equipment dust-free,
have large holes in the cupboard backs for the cords/power bar, and
are plenty deep for storage of DVDs, etc. I have a piece of dark-
smoked glass that covers the entire top - nobody can tell that it
didn't come as a single unit for that purpose. ;-)

N.

On Sat, 05 Nov 2011 01:13:29 -0400, Cheryl >
wrote:

> On 11/4/2011 11:30 PM, sf wrote:
> > On Fri, 04 Nov 2011 21:00:04 -0400, >
> > wrote:
> >
> >> On 11/4/2011 4:42 AM, Storrmmee wrote:
> >>
> >>> what about putting the shelves your dad built on the other side of the
> >>> doorway, still accessable to the kitchen but not in it?
> >>
> >> I'll have to think about that. If they are on the other side of the
> >> inside of the kitchen, they'd be *outside* of the kitchen and basically
> >> in the open dining/living room area. Not sure that will work for me.
> >
> > Think about how much you have to clean the *top* of your vent hood.
> > All of that greasy dust will be on your books too.
> >
> True. I still have to install the new range hood. I bought a stainless
> one that has a slightly smaller depth than the one I have now. I think
> the stainless one will be easier to keep clean with products like
> Barkeepers Friend.

You won't need Barkeepers Friend. Just a good spray cleaner. What
brand is your new hood and did you try removing the filter in the
showroom so you know it's easy to do? We bought ours over the
internet, it's an established brand but I didn't see it in the show
rooms. It's difficult to clean, but since we didn't want to
reconfigure existing cabinets and it was the only one that worked for
our situation - we would have bought it anyway. The bright side is
that I don't clean it, my husband does.

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"sf" wrote in message ...

On Fri, 04 Nov 2011 21:00:04 -0400, Cheryl >
wrote:

> On 11/4/2011 4:42 AM, Storrmmee wrote:
>
> > what about putting the shelves your dad built on the other side of the
> > doorway, still accessable to the kitchen but not in it?
>
> I'll have to think about that. If they are on the other side of the
> inside of the kitchen, they'd be *outside* of the kitchen and basically
> in the open dining/living room area. Not sure that will work for me.

Think about how much you have to clean the *top* of your vent hood.
All of that greasy dust will be on your books too.

--
All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.

- - - - - - - - - - -

That should be true only if she stores the books directly over the stove. I
have a bookcase in the kitchen (just as Cheryl described). I keep books on
it and also a number of ornamental items. It does not gather any more dust
(and certainly not "greasy" dust) than any place else in the house. The
vent hood should take care of venting fumes and smoke to the outside.

MaryL

might not but i was thinking, would be close to the kitchen, but without the
grease factor, Lee
"Cheryl" > wrote in message
...
> On 11/4/2011 4:42 AM, Storrmmee wrote:
>
>> what about putting the shelves your dad built on the other side of the
>> doorway, still accessable to the kitchen but not in it?
>
> I'll have to think about that. If they are on the other side of the
> inside of the kitchen, they'd be *outside* of the kitchen and basically in
> the open dining/living room area. Not sure that will work for me.

On Sun, 6 Nov 2011 03:29:40 -0600, "Storrmmee"
> wrote:

> might not but i was thinking, would be close to the kitchen, but without the
> grease factor, Lee

I agree with you, Lee.

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> "Cheryl" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On 11/4/2011 4:42 AM, Storrmmee wrote:
> >
> >> what about putting the shelves your dad built on the other side of the
> >> doorway, still accessable to the kitchen but not in it?
> >
> > I'll have to think about that. If they are on the other side of the
> > inside of the kitchen, they'd be *outside* of the kitchen and basically in
> > the open dining/living room area. Not sure that will work for me.
>


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