Over the weekend the doorbell rang. A girl 'bout 13 or 14 asked if I wanted
some candy. I asked what was the cause - she answered so I can go bowling. I
asked if she was part of a group or church, she acted a little confused and
repeated so I can go bowling. To no avail I tried to explain a little about
asking people for money. Finally I gave her the $2.00 and explained I did
not need any candy. As she walked away her mother came up to castigate me
and explain she was autistic. How the hell was I supposed to know? I was
just trying to be kind. Next time they can go to hell...

"Dimitri" > wrote in message
...
> Over the weekend the doorbell rang. A girl 'bout 13 or 14 asked if I
> wanted some candy. I asked what was the cause - she answered so I can go
> bowling. I asked if she was part of a group or church, she acted a little
> confused and repeated so I can go bowling. To no avail I tried to explain
> a little about asking people for money. Finally I gave her the $2.00 and
> explained I did not need any candy. As she walked away her mother came up
> to castigate me and explain she was autistic. How the hell was I supposed
> to know? I was just trying to be kind. Next time they can go to hell...

I never ever buy anything that is being sold at the door.

"Julie Bove" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Dimitri" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Over the weekend the doorbell rang. A girl 'bout 13 or 14 asked if I
>> wanted some candy. I asked what was the cause - she answered so I can go
>> bowling. I asked if she was part of a group or church, she acted a little
>> confused and repeated so I can go bowling. To no avail I tried to explain
>> a little about asking people for money. Finally I gave her the $2.00 and
>> explained I did not need any candy. As she walked away her mother came up
>> to castigate me and explain she was autistic. How the hell was I supposed
>> to know? I was just trying to be kind. Next time they can go to hell...
>
> I never ever buy anything that is being sold at the door.

Having been a past president of a PTO and responsible to raise large amounts
of money. I try to support fund raising efforts wherever practical.

This one threw me...

Dimitri

"Dimitri" <>
> Having been a past president of a PTO and responsible to raise large
> amounts of money. I try to support fund raising efforts wherever
> practical.
>
> This one threw me...
>
Aren't those school fund raising projects awful? They seem to get worse
every year. I am happy to contribute - which probably sends their
bookkeeper into a real snit. I don't want any frozen pizza, gift wrap or
equally egregious garbage. I've never really grasped spending hours and $20
for goodies for a bake sale that's going to bring in less than ten. Polly

"Polly Esther" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Dimitri" <>
>> Having been a past president of a PTO and responsible to raise large
>> amounts of money. I try to support fund raising efforts wherever
>> practical.
>>
>> This one threw me...
>>
> Aren't those school fund raising projects awful? They seem to get worse
> every year. I am happy to contribute - which probably sends their
> bookkeeper into a real snit. I don't want any frozen pizza, gift wrap or
> equally egregious garbage. I've never really grasped spending hours and
> $20 for goodies for a bake sale that's going to bring in less than ten.
> Polly

I'm the same way. I would rather just give the money. But apparently at
least in this area, I am in the minority.

At the start of school they pass the hat at my daughter's school. Last year
I was the only person I saw who put money in. This year a few more did.

Most people I know love getting stuff like frozen cookie dough and they seem
to love the magazines. Thankfully the only thing my daughter's school sells
now is the magazines. That's bad enough. Nobody I know needs magazines.

"Polly Esther" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Dimitri" <>
>> Having been a past president of a PTO and responsible to raise large
>> amounts of money. I try to support fund raising efforts wherever
>> practical.
>>
>> This one threw me...
>>
> Aren't those school fund raising projects awful? They seem to get worse
> every year. I am happy to contribute - which probably sends their
> bookkeeper into a real snit. I don't want any frozen pizza, gift wrap or
> equally egregious garbage. I've never really grasped spending hours and
> $20 for goodies for a bake sale that's going to bring in less than ten.
> Polly

Used to be they'd send kids door to door. I suppose in some places they
still do.

What kills me is it's the parents who usually wind up taking order forms to
work and selling the stuff *for* the kids. I'd cringe when someone started
passing around an order form selling candy or wrapping paper or whatnot for
their kids' school. Where there's one parent with an order form, there are
20 more behind them. No thanks!

Jill

On Nov 15, 12:10*am, "jmcquown" > wrote:
> "Polly Esther" > wrote in message
>
> ...
>
>
>
> > "Dimitri" <>
> >> Having been a past president of a PTO and responsible to raise large
> >> amounts of money. I try to support fund raising efforts wherever
> >> practical.
>
> >> This one threw me...
>
> > Aren't those school fund raising projects awful? *They seem to get worse
> > every year. *I am happy to contribute - which probably sends their
> > bookkeeper into a real snit. *I don't want any frozen pizza, gift wrap or
> > equally egregious garbage. *I've never really grasped spending hours and
> > $20 for goodies for a bake sale that's going to bring in less than ten.
> > Polly
>
> Used to be they'd send kids door to door. *I suppose in some places they
> still do.
>
> What kills me is it's the parents who usually wind up taking order forms to
> work and selling the stuff *for* the kids. *I'd cringe when someone started
> passing around an order form selling candy or wrapping paper or whatnot for
> their kids' school. *Where there's one parent with an order form, there are
> 20 more behind them. *No thanks!
>
> Jill

I don't mind this - at my office (and in my building) parents just put
the order sheets out in a common area, and you can sign up or not. No
big deal. I like the wrapping paper, and if it weren't for these
order sheets, I'd never get Girl Scout Cookies.


N.

On Nov 14, 11:30*pm, "Polly Esther" > wrote:
> "Dimitri" <>> Having been a past president of a PTO and responsible to raise large
> > amounts of money. I try to support fund raising efforts wherever
> > practical.
>
> > This one threw me...
>
> Aren't those school fund raising projects awful? *They seem to get worse
> every year. *I am happy to contribute - which probably sends their
> bookkeeper into a real snit. *I don't want any frozen pizza, gift wrap or
> equally egregious garbage. *I've never really grasped spending hours and $20
> for goodies for a bake sale that's going to bring in less than ten. *Polly

I tell ya, there is a school fund-raising brand of various goodies -
Red Wagon - and they have the most terrific frozen stuff. They don't
do door-to-door, just kids taking the order sheet home for friends and
relatives. I'm sorry my granddaughter is at the university now and
isn't peddling the Red Wagon goods any more. My grandson may come
along in a few years, though.... ;-)

N.

On 15/11/2011 12:30 AM, Polly Esther wrote:
>
> Aren't those school fund raising projects awful? They seem to get worse
> every year. I am happy to contribute - which probably sends their
> bookkeeper into a real snit. I don't want any frozen pizza, gift wrap or
> equally egregious garbage. I've never really grasped spending hours and
> $20 for goodies for a bake sale that's going to bring in less than ten.
> Polly

That was my problem when my son was in elementary school and I
contributed several batches of chocolate chip cookies. I was sorely
disappointed to go to the bake sale and see that my cookies were being
sold for a fraction of what it had cost me to bake them.

"Dimitri" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> "Dimitri" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Over the weekend the doorbell rang. A girl 'bout 13 or 14 asked if I
>>> wanted some candy. I asked what was the cause - she answered so I can go
>>> bowling. I asked if she was part of a group or church, she acted a
>>> little confused and repeated so I can go bowling. To no avail I tried to
>>> explain a little about asking people for money. Finally I gave her the
>>> $2.00 and explained I did not need any candy. As she walked away her
>>> mother came up to castigate me and explain she was autistic. How the
>>> hell was I supposed to know? I was just trying to be kind. Next time
>>> they can go to hell...
>>
>> I never ever buy anything that is being sold at the door.
>
> Having been a past president of a PTO and responsible to raise large
> amounts of money. I try to support fund raising efforts wherever
> practical.


I pay a lot of taxes, and the politicians are in bed with the teachers
unions. Screw them. When they give up their ridiculous pension plans and
save their earnings for retirement like the rest of us do (or should), then
they can talk. Schools are overfunded as it is.

On Nov 15, 12:52*am, "Pico Rico" > wrote:
> "Dimitri" > wrote in message
>
> ...
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
> ...
>
> >> "Dimitri" > wrote in message
> ...
> >>> Over the weekend the doorbell rang. A girl 'bout 13 or 14 asked if I
> >>> wanted some candy. I asked what was the cause - she answered so I can go
> >>> bowling. I asked if she was part of a group or church, she acted a
> >>> little confused and repeated so I can go bowling. To no avail I tried to
> >>> explain a little about asking people for money. Finally I gave her the
> >>> $2.00 and explained I did not need any candy. As she walked away her
> >>> mother came up to castigate me and explain she was autistic. How the
> >>> hell was I supposed to know? I was just trying to be kind. Next time
> >>> they can go to hell...
>
> >> I never ever buy anything that is being sold at the door.
>
> > Having been a past president of a PTO and responsible to raise large
> > amounts of money. I try to support fund raising efforts wherever
> > practical.
>
> I pay a lot of taxes, and the politicians are in bed with the teachers
> unions. *Screw them. *When they give up their ridiculous pension plans and
> save their earnings for retirement like the rest of us do (or should), then
> they can talk. *Schools are overfunded as it is.

God you guys are awful people. It's not about the money for the most
part. It's about teaching children to deal with the public. Hopefully
they don't encounter people as hurtful as you guys. She was autistic.
Would it have hurt you so much to act like a human?

On Nov 14, 9:59*pm, BillyZoom > wrote:
> On Nov 15, 12:52*am, "Pico Rico" > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > "Dimitri" > wrote in message
>
> ...
>
> > > "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
> > ...
>
> > >> "Dimitri" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > >>> Over the weekend the doorbell rang. A girl 'bout 13 or 14 asked if I
> > >>> wanted some candy. I asked what was the cause - she answered so I can go
> > >>> bowling. I asked if she was part of a group or church, she acted a
> > >>> little confused and repeated so I can go bowling. To no avail I tried to
> > >>> explain a little about asking people for money. Finally I gave her the
> > >>> $2.00 and explained I did not need any candy. As she walked away her
> > >>> mother came up to castigate me and explain she was autistic. How the
> > >>> hell was I supposed to know? I was just trying to be kind. Next time
> > >>> they can go to hell...
>
> > >> I never ever buy anything that is being sold at the door.
>
> > > Having been a past president of a PTO and responsible to raise large
> > > amounts of money. I try to support fund raising efforts wherever
> > > practical.
>
> > I pay a lot of taxes, and the politicians are in bed with the teachers
> > unions. *Screw them. *When they give up their ridiculous pension plans and
> > save their earnings for retirement like the rest of us do (or should), then
> > they can talk. *Schools are overfunded as it is.
>
> God you guys are awful people. It's not about the money for the most
> part. It's about teaching children to deal with the public. Hopefully
> they don't encounter people as hurtful as you guys. She was autistic.
> Would it have hurt you so much to act like a human?

The kids are pressured to do all this fundraising stuff, and I don't
have a problem supporting them if they come to my door...

On Mon, 14 Nov 2011 21:59:32 -0800 (PST), BillyZoom
> wrote:



>
>God you guys are awful people. It's not about the money for the most
>part. It's about teaching children to deal with the public. Hopefully
>they don't encounter people as hurtful as you guys. She was autistic.
>Would it have hurt you so much to act like a human?

How is one supposed to know that? Do they brand a scarlet A on their
forehead?

I'd wonder what was up when a kid knocked at the door because he or
she wanted to go bowling.

In article
>,
BillyZoom > wrote:

> On Nov 15, 12:52*am, "Pico Rico" > wrote:
> > "Dimitri" > wrote in message
> >
> > ...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >
> > >> "Dimitri" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > >>> Over the weekend the doorbell rang. A girl 'bout 13 or 14 asked if I
> > >>> wanted some candy. I asked what was the cause - she answered so I can go
> > >>> bowling. I asked if she was part of a group or church, she acted a
> > >>> little confused and repeated so I can go bowling. To no avail I tried to
> > >>> explain a little about asking people for money. Finally I gave her the
> > >>> $2.00 and explained I did not need any candy. As she walked away her
> > >>> mother came up to castigate me and explain she was autistic. How the
> > >>> hell was I supposed to know? I was just trying to be kind. Next time
> > >>> they can go to hell...
> >
> > >> I never ever buy anything that is being sold at the door.
> >
> > > Having been a past president of a PTO and responsible to raise large
> > > amounts of money. I try to support fund raising efforts wherever
> > > practical.
> >
> > I pay a lot of taxes, and the politicians are in bed with the teachers
> > unions. *Screw them. *When they give up their ridiculous pension plans and
> > save their earnings for retirement like the rest of us do (or should), then
> > they can talk. *Schools are overfunded as it is.
>
> God you guys are awful people. It's not about the money for the most
> part. It's about teaching children to deal with the public. Hopefully
> they don't encounter people as hurtful as you guys. She was autistic.
> Would it have hurt you so much to act like a human?

He did. I've met Dimitri and know a bit about him and his family. He
is the soul of kindness. What part was not like a human? He asked if
she were part of a group. I'm pretty sure that his explanation about
asking for money was done at a level a teen would understand and that he
did it without insult. He gave her money. He acted like the fine
human being he is.
--
Barb,
http://web.me.com/barbschaller September 5, 2011

"BillyZoom" > wrote in message
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On Nov 15, 12:52 am, "Pico Rico" > wrote:
> "Dimitri" > wrote in message
>
> ...
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
> ...
>
> >> "Dimitri" > wrote in message
> ...
> >>> Over the weekend the doorbell rang. A girl 'bout 13 or 14 asked if I
> >>> wanted some candy. I asked what was the cause - she answered so I can
> >>> go
> >>> bowling. I asked if she was part of a group or church, she acted a
> >>> little confused and repeated so I can go bowling. To no avail I tried
> >>> to
> >>> explain a little about asking people for money. Finally I gave her the
> >>> $2.00 and explained I did not need any candy. As she walked away her
> >>> mother came up to castigate me and explain she was autistic. How the
> >>> hell was I supposed to know? I was just trying to be kind. Next time
> >>> they can go to hell...
>
> >> I never ever buy anything that is being sold at the door.
>
> > Having been a past president of a PTO and responsible to raise large
> > amounts of money. I try to support fund raising efforts wherever
> > practical.
>
> I pay a lot of taxes, and the politicians are in bed with the teachers
> unions. Screw them. When they give up their ridiculous pension plans and
> save their earnings for retirement like the rest of us do (or should),
> then
> they can talk. Schools are overfunded as it is.

God you guys are awful people. It's not about the money for the most
part. It's about teaching children to deal with the public. Hopefully
they don't encounter people as hurtful as you guys. She was autistic.
Would it have hurt you so much to act like a human?


If I were human I would have slammed the door in her face like most other
people do. I know you probably don't believe this but I was trying to help
her in her sales pitch by trying to drawing out some facts. As opposed to
Gimme money I want to go bowling and my parents can't afford it,

DUH.....

Dimitri

On 15/11/2011 12:52 AM, Pico Rico wrote:
>
>
> I pay a lot of taxes, and the politicians are in bed with the teachers
> unions. Screw them.

Maybe there will be a fund raiser for a mental health charity. You
should contribute to that.


> When they give up their ridiculous pension plans and
> save their earnings for retirement like the rest of us do (or should), then
> they can talk. Schools are overfunded as it is.
>


Don't have a clue what PTAs spend their funds on do you.

"Dave Smith" > wrote in message
om...
> On 15/11/2011 12:52 AM, Pico Rico wrote:
>>
>>
>> I pay a lot of taxes, and the politicians are in bed with the teachers
>> unions. Screw them.
>
> Maybe there will be a fund raiser for a mental health charity. You should
> contribute to that.
>
>
>> When they give up their ridiculous pension plans and
>> save their earnings for retirement like the rest of us do (or should),
>> then
>> they can talk. Schools are overfunded as it is.
>>
>
>
> Don't have a clue what PTAs spend their funds on do you.


I can not speak to the PTA as they are for the public schools, I can
however speak to the PTO's (private school parent org.'s) Since the school
my kids went to operated at a loss we were able to not only air condition
the classrooms but buy supplies and furnish labor to improve the physical
facilities. In addition we were able to fund field trips deemed necessary.
In short we were the court of last resort when necessary to improve the
educational situation for the kids. Sometimes it was silly stuff like
collecting business 81/2 X 11 paper used on one side so the other side could
be used as "scratch" paper.

Dimitri

"Dimitri" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> "Dimitri" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Over the weekend the doorbell rang. A girl 'bout 13 or 14 asked if I
>>> wanted some candy. I asked what was the cause - she answered so I can go
>>> bowling. I asked if she was part of a group or church, she acted a
>>> little confused and repeated so I can go bowling. To no avail I tried to
>>> explain a little about asking people for money. Finally I gave her the
>>> $2.00 and explained I did not need any candy. As she walked away her
>>> mother came up to castigate me and explain she was autistic. How the
>>> hell was I supposed to know? I was just trying to be kind. Next time
>>> they can go to hell...
>>
>> I never ever buy anything that is being sold at the door.
>
> Having been a past president of a PTO and responsible to raise large
> amounts of money. I try to support fund raising efforts wherever
> practical.
>
> This one threw me...

I have had too many people come to the door that are questionable. I don't
think they're around any more but for many years there were adults sending
kids out in this area to sell stale candy. It wasn't for any kind of
charity. The adults were taking all the money. I don't think the kids got
much of anything.

On 11/14/2011 11:18 PM, Dimitri wrote:
>
> Having been a past president of a PTO and responsible to raise large
> amounts of money. I try to support fund raising efforts wherever practical.
>
> This one threw me...

This brings out the curmudgeon in me.

I won't even begin to add up all the taxes I have paid over the years to
support the school system and I don't have any kids. I am a strong
believer in in a good education system so I don't mind, but I really
bristle when kids have to raise money for things like music and sports
because I believe they should already be a part of the school budget.

George L

On 11/15/2011 7:32 AM, George Leppla wrote:
> On 11/14/2011 11:18 PM, Dimitri wrote:
>>
>> Having been a past president of a PTO and responsible to raise large
>> amounts of money. I try to support fund raising efforts wherever
>> practical.
>>
>> This one threw me...
>
> This brings out the curmudgeon in me.
>
> I won't even begin to add up all the taxes I have paid over the years to
> support the school system and I don't have any kids. I am a strong
> believer in in a good education system so I don't mind, but I really
> bristle when kids have to raise money for things like music and sports
> because I believe they should already be a part of the school budget.
>


I was a band parent for too many years. Though the board of education
did provide the teachers and instructors, the band paid for its own
uniforms and band front materials.

No one hated selling band candy more than I did. I also sold raffle
tickets. I put my foot down, however when they sold hugely over-priced
cheese or grapefruits. If I could not personally afford to buy something
they were selling, I would not ask others to buy it.

Story: One year my middle school son stood in front of a local grocery
store and sold his high school band member sister's allotment of band
candy. He stopped passersby and asked them to buy the candy to send his
sister to band camp and get her away from bothering him for a week. The
kid sold tons of it.

He would have done well in marketing, but he chose human resources
(where he is also doing well)


--
Janet Wilder
Way-the-heck-south Texas
Spelling doesn't count. Cooking does.

"George Leppla" > wrote in message
...
> On 11/14/2011 11:18 PM, Dimitri wrote:
>>
>> Having been a past president of a PTO and responsible to raise large
>> amounts of money. I try to support fund raising efforts wherever
>> practical.
>>
>> This one threw me...
>
> This brings out the curmudgeon in me.
>
> I won't even begin to add up all the taxes I have paid over the years to
> support the school system and I don't have any kids. I am a strong
> believer in in a good education system so I don't mind, but I really
> bristle when kids have to raise money for things like music and sports
> because I believe they should already be a part of the school budget.
>
> George L


BTW don't feel alone.

4 daughters X 16 years of non public education.

Now broke and spending what's left with the dentist.

I'll die with a beautiful set of teeth.

One day long after I'm gone an archeologist will dig up my bones and admire
my teeth.

Dimitri

On Wed, 16 Nov 2011 11:17:04 -0800, "Dimitri" >
wrote:



>Now broke and spending what's left with the dentist.
>
>I'll die with a beautiful set of teeth.
>
>One day long after I'm gone an archeologist will dig up my bones and admire
>my teeth.
>
>Dimitri
>
>

Look at the bright side. Your dentist can easily make the payments on
the Porsche and his wife can now remodel the kitchen. All thanks to
you!

"Janet" > wrote in message
...
> In article >,
> says...
>
>> I won't even begin to add up all the taxes I have paid over the years to
>> support the school system and I don't have any kids.
>
> IOW, you rely entirely on other people's children to provide the
> workforce and services generation you will depend on in old age. Someone
> else bred your bank staff, power engineer,garage mechanic,food suppliers,
> nurses, etc.
>
> So you'll get plenty back, from paying for their education. Sounds like
> a good deal to me.
>
> Janet

That really depends on how much he paid in. And you should compare this to
the deal others are getting - having kids but paying little or no taxes.

On 11/15/2011 8:57 AM, Janet wrote:
> In >,
> says...
>
>> I won't even begin to add up all the taxes I have paid over the years to
>> support the school system and I don't have any kids.
>
> IOW, you rely entirely on other people's children to provide the
> workforce and services generation you will depend on in old age. Someone
> else bred your bank staff, power engineer,garage mechanic,food suppliers,
> nurses, etc.
>
> So you'll get plenty back, from paying for their education. Sounds like
> a good deal to me.
>
> Janet

Janet, you missed the part where I wrote:

"I am a strong believer in in a good education system so I don't mind,"

I don't mind paying taxes to support schools. In fact, I hate
politicians who boast on how they cut spending (or taxes) at the expense
of our school system.

What I am against is paying taxes to support schools, only to hae the
schools turn their students into fund raisers to pay for programs like
band, sports, etc. Children should be learning, not hawking candy bars
so the band has uniforms.

George L

In article >,
Janet > wrote:

> In article >,
> says...
>
> > I won't even begin to add up all the taxes I have paid over the years to
> > support the school system and I don't have any kids.
>
> IOW, you rely entirely on other people's children to provide the
> workforce and services generation you will depend on in old age. Someone
> else bred your bank staff, power engineer,garage mechanic,food suppliers,
> nurses, etc.
>
> So you'll get plenty back, from paying for their education. Sounds like
> a good deal to me.
>
> Janet

And he said "I am a strong believer in in a good education system so I
don't mind". (Danged dirty eyeglasses!)
--
Barb,
http://web.me.com/barbschaller September 5, 2011

"Julie Bove" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Dimitri" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Over the weekend the doorbell rang. A girl 'bout 13 or 14 asked if I
>> wanted some candy. I asked what was the cause - she answered so I can go
>> bowling. I asked if she was part of a group or church, she acted a little
>> confused and repeated so I can go bowling. To no avail I tried to explain
>> a little about asking people for money. Finally I gave her the $2.00 and
>> explained I did not need any candy. As she walked away her mother came up
>> to castigate me and explain she was autistic. How the hell was I supposed
>> to know? I was just trying to be kind. Next time they can go to hell...
>
> I never ever buy anything that is being sold at the door.
>

I never open the door.

"Pico Rico" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> "Dimitri" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Over the weekend the doorbell rang. A girl 'bout 13 or 14 asked if I
>>> wanted some candy. I asked what was the cause - she answered so I can go
>>> bowling. I asked if she was part of a group or church, she acted a
>>> little confused and repeated so I can go bowling. To no avail I tried to
>>> explain a little about asking people for money. Finally I gave her the
>>> $2.00 and explained I did not need any candy. As she walked away her
>>> mother came up to castigate me and explain she was autistic. How the
>>> hell was I supposed to know? I was just trying to be kind. Next time
>>> they can go to hell...
>>
>> I never ever buy anything that is being sold at the door.
>>
>
> I never open the door.

I try not to. But they are getting sneakier. Once in a while they just say
nothing. So I think it's a package. I get a lot of packages. And then it
will be someone selling something. The big things in this area are windows,
siding and lawn maintenance. I just want to tell them they won't get any
work in this area.

"Julie Bove" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Pico Rico" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>>
>>> "Dimitri" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> Over the weekend the doorbell rang. A girl 'bout 13 or 14 asked if I
>>>> wanted some candy. I asked what was the cause - she answered so I can
>>>> go bowling. I asked if she was part of a group or church, she acted a
>>>> little confused and repeated so I can go bowling. To no avail I tried
>>>> to explain a little about asking people for money. Finally I gave her
>>>> the $2.00 and explained I did not need any candy. As she walked away
>>>> her mother came up to castigate me and explain she was autistic. How
>>>> the hell was I supposed to know? I was just trying to be kind. Next
>>>> time they can go to hell...
>>>
>>> I never ever buy anything that is being sold at the door.
>>>
>>
>> I never open the door.
>
> I try not to. But they are getting sneakier. Once in a while they just
> say nothing. So I think it's a package. I get a lot of packages. And
> then it will be someone selling something. The big things in this area
> are windows, siding and lawn maintenance. I just want to tell them they
> won't get any work in this area.

I tell them I an a renter. That always throws them, since they looked up
the public records and think I own.

On Nov 15, 12:14*am, "Julie Bove" > wrote:
> "Dimitri" > wrote in message
>
> ...
>
> > Over the weekend the doorbell rang. A girl 'bout 13 or 14 asked if I
> > wanted some candy. I asked what was the cause - she answered so I can go
> > bowling. I asked if she was part of a group or church, she acted a little
> > confused and repeated so I can go bowling. To no avail I tried to explain
> > a little about asking people for money. Finally I gave her the $2.00 and
> > explained I did not need any candy. As she walked away her mother came up
> > to castigate me and explain she was autistic. How the hell was I supposed
> > to know? I was just trying to be kind. Next time they can go to hell...
>
> I never ever buy anything that is being sold at the door.

Bovine speaks again about what she never does. The world awaits the
next announcement. How about your husband? Oh, that's right he steers
pretty clear of you. How about your daughter? Oh that's right, she's
out getting railed by black gentlemen.

BillyZoom wrote:
> On Nov 15, 12:14 am, "Julie Bove" > wrote:
>> "Dimitri" > wrote in message
>>
>> ...
>>
>>> Over the weekend the doorbell rang. A girl 'bout 13 or 14 asked if I
>>> wanted some candy. I asked what was the cause - she answered so I
>>> can go bowling. I asked if she was part of a group or church, she
>>> acted a little confused and repeated so I can go bowling. To no
>>> avail I tried to explain a little about asking people for money.
>>> Finally I gave her the $2.00 and explained I did not need any
>>> candy. As she walked away her mother came up to castigate me and
>>> explain she was autistic. How the hell was I supposed to know? I
>>> was just trying to be kind. Next time they can go to hell...
>>
>> I never ever buy anything that is being sold at the door.
>
> Bovine speaks again about what she never does. The world awaits the
> next announcement. How about your husband? Oh, that's right he steers
> pretty clear of you. How about your daughter? Oh that's right, she's
> out getting railed by black gentlemen.

FOAD again!

On Nov 14, 11:14*pm, "Julie Bove" > wrote:
> "Dimitri" > wrote in message
>
> ...
>
> > Over the weekend the doorbell rang. A girl 'bout 13 or 14 asked if I
> > wanted some candy. I asked what was the cause - she answered so I can go
> > bowling. I asked if she was part of a group or church, she acted a little
> > confused and repeated so I can go bowling. To no avail I tried to explain
> > a little about asking people for money. Finally I gave her the $2.00 and
> > explained I did not need any candy. As she walked away her mother came up
> > to castigate me and explain she was autistic. How the hell was I supposed
> > to know? I was just trying to be kind. Next time they can go to hell...
>
> I never ever buy anything that is being sold at the door.

I actually have a little notice by my door that states no sales, no
petitions, no charities. In other words, if I don't know you, don't
ring the doorbell. I don't care if people think I'm a grouch, it cuts
down on a lot of crap. The holy rollers are the only people who think
it doesn't apply to them - but then I point out that they are trying
to sell their religion, so it does include them.

N.

In article
>,
Nancy2 > wrote:

> On Nov 14, 11:14*pm, "Julie Bove" > wrote:
> > "Dimitri" > wrote in message
> >
> > ...
> >
> > > Over the weekend the doorbell rang. A girl 'bout 13 or 14 asked if I
> > > wanted some candy. I asked what was the cause - she answered so I can go
> > > bowling. I asked if she was part of a group or church, she acted a little
> > > confused and repeated so I can go bowling. To no avail I tried to explain
> > > a little about asking people for money. Finally I gave her the $2.00 and
> > > explained I did not need any candy. As she walked away her mother came up
> > > to castigate me and explain she was autistic. How the hell was I supposed
> > > to know? I was just trying to be kind. Next time they can go to hell...
> >
> > I never ever buy anything that is being sold at the door.
>
> I actually have a little notice by my door that states no sales, no
> petitions, no charities. In other words, if I don't know you, don't
> ring the doorbell. I don't care if people think I'm a grouch, it cuts
> down on a lot of crap. The holy rollers are the only people who think
> it doesn't apply to them - but then I point out that they are trying
> to sell their religion, so it does include them.
>
> N.

Add a line: AND NO GODDAMN PROSELYTIZING!! I'M PLANNING TO GO TO HELL!

--
Barb,
http://web.me.com/barbschaller September 5, 2011

On Nov 15, 10:23*am, Melba's Jammin' >
wrote:
> In article
> >,
>
>
>
>
>
> *Nancy2 > wrote:
> > On Nov 14, 11:14*pm, "Julie Bove" > wrote:
> > > "Dimitri" > wrote in message
>
> > ...
>
> > > > Over the weekend the doorbell rang. A girl 'bout 13 or 14 asked if I
> > > > wanted some candy. I asked what was the cause - she answered so I can go
> > > > bowling. I asked if she was part of a group or church, she acted a little
> > > > confused and repeated so I can go bowling. To no avail I tried to explain
> > > > a little about asking people for money. Finally I gave her the $2.00 and
> > > > explained I did not need any candy. As she walked away her mother came up
> > > > to castigate me and explain she was autistic. How the hell was I supposed
> > > > to know? I was just trying to be kind. Next time they can go to hell...
>
> > > I never ever buy anything that is being sold at the door.
>
> > I actually have a little notice by my door that states no sales, no
> > petitions, no charities. *In other words, if I don't know you, don't
> > ring the doorbell. *I don't care if people think I'm a grouch, it cuts
> > down on a lot of crap. *The holy rollers are the only people who think
> > it doesn't apply to them - but then I point out that they are trying
> > to sell their religion, so it does include them.
>
> > N.
>
> Add a line: *AND NO GODDAMN PROSELYTIZING!! *I'M PLANNING TO GO TO HELL!
>
> --
> Barb,http://web.me.com/barbschallerSeptember 5, 2011- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

LOL. My sign is too little.

N.

On 15/11/2011 12:14 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
>> a little about asking people for money. Finally I gave her the $2.00 and
>> explained I did not need any candy. As she walked away her mother came up
>> to castigate me and explain she was autistic. How the hell was I supposed
>> to know? I was just trying to be kind. Next time they can go to hell...
>
> I never ever buy anything that is being sold at the door.
>
>

I live in the country so, with very few exceptions, the only kids who
come around selling candy are neighbours. It is a big concession on my
part if they are religious schools, because I feel very strongly about
some religious based schools.... not fer.

On Nov 15, 12:14*am, "Julie Bove" > wrote:
> "Dimitri" > wrote in message
>
> ...
>
> > Over the weekend the doorbell rang. A girl 'bout 13 or 14 asked if I
> > wanted some candy. I asked what was the cause - she answered so I can go
> > bowling. I asked if she was part of a group or church, she acted a little
> > confused and repeated so I can go bowling. To no avail I tried to explain
> > a little about asking people for money. Finally I gave her the $2.00 and
> > explained I did not need any candy. As she walked away her mother came up
> > to castigate me and explain she was autistic. How the hell was I supposed
> > to know? I was just trying to be kind. Next time they can go to hell...
>
> I never ever buy anything that is being sold at the door.

Fascinating.

On 11/14/2011 7:07 PM, Dimitri wrote:
> Over the weekend the doorbell rang. A girl 'bout 13 or 14 asked if I
> wanted some candy. I asked what was the cause - she answered so I can go
> bowling. I asked if she was part of a group or church, she acted a
> little confused and repeated so I can go bowling. To no avail I tried to
> explain a little about asking people for money. Finally I gave her the
> $2.00 and explained I did not need any candy. As she walked away her
> mother came up to castigate me and explain she was autistic. How the
> hell was I supposed to know? I was just trying to be kind. Next time
> they can go to hell...

Two bucks? You got off easy. My wife bought 2 bags of cookies from a
little girl dressed as a hula dancer. No doubt my wife exclaimed "how
cute!" as she forked over $10. I saw the cookies in a bag when I got
home. When she told me how she got it, I thought that was great because,
homemade cookies are just that - great. I was sorely disappointed when
the cookies turned out to be crappy house brand supermarket cookies
worth maybe half a dollar. The next time I see a little hula girl trying
to peddle their crappy wares, you can bet that I'm gonna be giving them
a piece of my mind!

On 11/14/2011 10:07 PM, Dimitri wrote:
> Over the weekend the doorbell rang. A girl 'bout 13 or 14 asked if I
> wanted some candy. I asked what was the cause - she answered so I can go
> bowling. I asked if she was part of a group or church, she acted a
> little confused and repeated so I can go bowling. To no avail I tried to
> explain a little about asking people for money. Finally I gave her the
> $2.00 and explained I did not need any candy. As she walked away her
> mother came up to castigate me and explain she was autistic. How the
> hell was I supposed to know? I was just trying to be kind. Next time
> they can go to hell...


Did the mother approach you because you gave the girl money, or because
she thought you didn't give her enough?

"Pennyaline" > wrote in message
...
> On 11/14/2011 10:07 PM, Dimitri wrote:
>> Over the weekend the doorbell rang. A girl 'bout 13 or 14 asked if I
>> wanted some candy. I asked what was the cause - she answered so I can go
>> bowling. I asked if she was part of a group or church, she acted a
>> little confused and repeated so I can go bowling. To no avail I tried to
>> explain a little about asking people for money. Finally I gave her the
>> $2.00 and explained I did not need any candy. As she walked away her
>> mother came up to castigate me and explain she was autistic. How the
>> hell was I supposed to know? I was just trying to be kind. Next time
>> they can go to hell...
>
>
> Did the mother approach you because you gave the girl money, or because
> she thought you didn't give her enough?

The mother approached me (I guess) because I was trying to explain to the
"child" she needed to explain who or what she represented, as in a school a
church, a community organization what? Just I want to go bowling was not
enough. I was a pleasant as I possibly could be. The mother virtually
attacked me & closed with next time you might consider who you're dealing
with. Like I should know she was Autistic by sight.

Dimitri

BTW - As a side note the parochial school I sent my girls to operated at a
loss. We the PTO air conditioned all of the class rooms with a central air
system. It can get quite hot where I live

On Tue, 15 Nov 2011 06:32:59 -0800, "Dimitri" >
wrote:

>
>"Pennyaline" > wrote in message
.. .
>> On 11/14/2011 10:07 PM, Dimitri wrote:
>>> Over the weekend the doorbell rang. A girl 'bout 13 or 14 asked if I
>>> wanted some candy. I asked what was the cause - she answered so I can go
>>> bowling. I asked if she was part of a group or church, she acted a
>>> little confused and repeated so I can go bowling. To no avail I tried to
>>> explain a little about asking people for money. Finally I gave her the
>>> $2.00 and explained I did not need any candy. As she walked away her
>>> mother came up to castigate me and explain she was autistic. How the
>>> hell was I supposed to know? I was just trying to be kind. Next time
>>> they can go to hell...
>>
>>
>> Did the mother approach you because you gave the girl money, or because
>> she thought you didn't give her enough?
>
>The mother approached me (I guess) because I was trying to explain to the
>"child" she needed to explain who or what she represented, as in a school a
>church, a community organization what? Just I want to go bowling was not
>enough. I was a pleasant as I possibly could be. The mother virtually
>attacked me & closed with next time you might consider who you're dealing
>with. Like I should know she was Autistic by sight.

it sounds like the mother has as much of a problem as the child. A
business I work with took on an autistic kid as part of a life
training exercise. I don't know or care about all the details but he
came with a teacher. He looked and talked normal but didn't make much
sense. The first time I ran into him he was talking shit and luckily
my friend pulled me aside and told me the scoop. The event happened
too fast for me to say for sure how it would have ended without
intervention but I will say if he had been at my door asking for money
I'd have chased him away.

I can only try to understand the frustration a parent has with a child
with needs but taking it out on you was wrong.

Lou

On 11/15/2011 7:32 AM, Dimitri wrote:

> The mother approached me (I guess) because I was trying to explain to
> the "child" she needed to explain who or what she represented, as in a
> school a church, a community organization what? Just I want to go
> bowling was not enough. I was a pleasant as I possibly could be. The
> mother virtually attacked me & closed with next time you might consider
> who you're dealing with. Like I should know she was Autistic by sight.

I see. So essentially the mother is teaching the daughter that it's okay
to go from door to door and ask for spending money because she's
autistic. Whether she is or not, that's dodgy. So, "next time" don't
open the door to her at all. I wouldn't.