Congress wants to keep pizza and french fries on school lunch lines,
fighting back against an Obama administration proposal to make school
lunches healthier.

The final version of a spending bill released late Monday would
unravel school lunch standards the Agriculture Department proposed
earlier this year, which included limiting the use of potatoes on the
lunch line and delaying limits on sodium and delaying a requirement to
boost whole grains.

The bill also would allow tomato paste on pizzas to be counted as a
vegetable, as it is now. USDA had wanted to prevent that.

Food companies that produce frozen pizzas for schools, the salt
industry and potato growers requested the changes, and some
conservatives in Congress say the federal government shouldn't be
telling children what to eat.

(snip)


The school lunch proposal was based on 2009 recommendations by the
Institute of Medicine, the health arm of the National Academy of
Sciences. Agriculture Secretary Tom Vilsack said they were needed to
reduce childhood obesity and future health care costs.

Nutrition advocate Margo Wootan of the Center for Science in the
Public Interest said Congress's proposed changes will keep schools
from serving a wider array of vegetables. Children already get enough
pizza and potatoes, she says. It would also slow efforts to make
pizzas - a longtime standby on school lunch lines - healthier, with
whole grain crusts and lower levels of sodium.

"They are making sure that two of the biggest problems in the school
lunch program, pizza and french fries, are untouched," she said.

A group of retired generals advocating for healthier school lunches
also criticized the spending bill. The group, called Mission:
Readiness has called poor nutrition in school lunches a national
security issue because obesity is the leading medical disqualifier for
military service.

"We are outraged that Congress is seriously considering language that
would effectively categorize pizza as a vegetable in the school lunch
program," Amy Dawson Taggart, the director of the group, said in a
letter to members of Congress before the final plan was released. "It
doesn't take an advanced degree in nutrition to call this a national
disgrace."



Read mo http://www.bellinghamherald.com/2011...#ixzz1dnSeacVB

On Nov 15, 9:41*am, ImStillMags > wrote:
> Congress wants to keep pizza and french fries on school lunch lines,
> fighting back against an Obama administration proposal to make school
> lunches healthier.
>
> The final version of a spending bill released late Monday would
> unravel school lunch standards the Agriculture Department proposed
> earlier this year, which included limiting the use of potatoes on the
> lunch line and delaying limits on sodium and delaying a requirement to
> boost whole grains.
>
> The bill also would allow tomato paste on pizzas to be counted as a
> vegetable, as it is now. USDA had wanted to prevent that.
>
> Food companies that produce frozen pizzas for schools, the salt
> industry and potato growers requested the changes, and some
> conservatives in Congress say the federal government shouldn't be
> telling children what to eat.
>
> (snip)
>
> The school lunch proposal was based on 2009 recommendations by the
> Institute of Medicine, the health arm of the National Academy of
> Sciences. Agriculture Secretary Tom Vilsack said they were needed to
> reduce childhood obesity and future health care costs.
>
> Nutrition advocate Margo Wootan of the Center for Science in the
> Public Interest said Congress's proposed changes will keep schools
> from serving a wider array of vegetables. Children already get enough
> pizza and potatoes, she says. It would also slow efforts to make
> pizzas - a longtime standby on school lunch lines - healthier, with
> whole grain crusts and lower levels of sodium.
>
> "They are making sure that two of the biggest problems in the school
> lunch program, pizza and french fries, are untouched," she said.
>
> A group of retired generals advocating for healthier school lunches
> also criticized the spending bill. The group, called Mission:
> Readiness has called poor nutrition in school lunches a national
> security issue because obesity is the leading medical disqualifier for
> military service.
>
> "We are outraged that Congress is seriously considering language that
> would effectively categorize pizza as a vegetable in the school lunch
> program," Amy Dawson Taggart, the director of the group, said in a
> letter to members of Congress before the final plan was released. "It
> doesn't take an advanced degree in nutrition to call this a national
> disgrace."
>
> Read mohttp://www.bellinghamherald.com/2011...ress-pushes-ba...

Pretty sad...my son used to buy lunch at his middle school, but he
wasn't buying a "real" lunch. He was buying a cup 'o noodles and some
other crap. He now is taking lunch from home, and he makes it himself.
He is liking a turkey sandwich on Dave's Killer Bread right now...

On Nov 15, 9:41*am, ImStillMags > wrote:
> Congress wants to keep pizza and french fries on school lunch lines,
> fighting back against an Obama administration proposal to make school
> lunches healthier.
>
> The final version of a spending bill released late Monday would
> unravel school lunch standards the Agriculture Department proposed
> earlier this year, which included limiting the use of potatoes on the
> lunch line and delaying limits on sodium and delaying a requirement to
> boost whole grains.
>
> The bill also would allow tomato paste on pizzas to be counted as a
> vegetable, as it is now. USDA had wanted to prevent that.
>
> Food companies that produce frozen pizzas for schools, the salt
> industry and potato growers requested the changes, and some
> conservatives in Congress say the federal government shouldn't be
> telling children what to eat.
>
> (snip)
>
> The school lunch proposal was based on 2009 recommendations by the
> Institute of Medicine, the health arm of the National Academy of
> Sciences. Agriculture Secretary Tom Vilsack said they were needed to
> reduce childhood obesity and future health care costs.
>
> Nutrition advocate Margo Wootan of the Center for Science in the
> Public Interest said Congress's proposed changes will keep schools
> from serving a wider array of vegetables. Children already get enough
> pizza and potatoes, she says. It would also slow efforts to make
> pizzas - a longtime standby on school lunch lines - healthier, with
> whole grain crusts and lower levels of sodium.
>
> "They are making sure that two of the biggest problems in the school
> lunch program, pizza and french fries, are untouched," she said.
>
> A group of retired generals advocating for healthier school lunches
> also criticized the spending bill. The group, called Mission:
> Readiness has called poor nutrition in school lunches a national
> security issue because obesity is the leading medical disqualifier for
> military service.
>
> "We are outraged that Congress is seriously considering language that
> would effectively categorize pizza as a vegetable in the school lunch
> program," Amy Dawson Taggart, the director of the group, said in a
> letter to members of Congress before the final plan was released. "It
> doesn't take an advanced degree in nutrition to call this a national
> disgrace."
>

The most important thing about school lunch is making it palatable to
kids. If the kids won't eat it then it's a total waste, no matter how
healthy it sounds to adult nutritionists. If kids like pizza,
concentrate on making pizza more nutritious without taking away what
makes pizza appeal to kids.

Kids like tater tots: get Simplot to add mashed peas and carrots to
their recipe.

ImStillMags wrote:
>
> Food companies that produce frozen pizzas for schools, the salt
> industry and potato growers requested the changes, and some
> conservatives in Congress say the federal government shouldn't be
> telling children what to eat.

Baloney! The salt industry could care less what's
served for lunch at schools. Salt for human consumption
is a tiny fraction of their business. That would be
like the mercury industry caring about whether mercury
compounds are used in vaccines.

"sf" > wrote in message
news
> On Tue, 15 Nov 2011 09:41:19 -0800 (PST), ImStillMags
> > wrote:
>
>> Congress wants to keep pizza and french fries on school lunch lines,
>> fighting back against an Obama administration proposal to make school
>> lunches healthier.
>
> It figures.
>
I'm not for government control about what kids eat (I took PB sandwiches for
lunch all the time; apparently I could have exacerbated some kids' allergy
by eating it). But I don't see why making lunches healthier is a bad thing.
I'd still make a slice of pizza available if that's what the parents want.
IIRC (and it was a long time ago) the pizza was about as tasteless as
cardboard and the french fries were limp, unappetizing things.

Jill

On Tue, 15 Nov 2011 15:55:08 -0500, "jmcquown" >
wrote:

>
> "sf" > wrote in message
> news
> > On Tue, 15 Nov 2011 09:41:19 -0800 (PST), ImStillMags
> > > wrote:
> >
> >> Congress wants to keep pizza and french fries on school lunch lines,
> >> fighting back against an Obama administration proposal to make school
> >> lunches healthier.
> >
> > It figures.
> >
> I'm not for government control about what kids eat (I took PB sandwiches for
> lunch all the time; apparently I could have exacerbated some kids' allergy
> by eating it). But I don't see why making lunches healthier is a bad thing.
> I'd still make a slice of pizza available if that's what the parents want.
> IIRC (and it was a long time ago) the pizza was about as tasteless as
> cardboard and the french fries were limp, unappetizing things.
>
Some parents are you jacked up on crack that there's no food in the
house. The government isn't providing a fine dining experience or
even a mediocre one. Just food for kids that would otherwise go
hungry.

--
All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.

On Tue, 15 Nov 2011 09:41:19 -0800 (PST), ImStillMags
> wrote:

>
>Congress wants to keep pizza and french fries on school lunch lines,
>fighting back against an Obama administration proposal to make school
>lunches healthier.

The obamas are the last people on the planet to preach health, he
smokes like a chimney and she has an ass that turns the corner after
her.

Pizza happens to be a nutritious food and the portion of fries in
school cafeterias is miniscule, the pizza portion is smaller than
you'd get at a pizzaria... and those items are not served every day.
And there are many other choices from the various food catagories;
fruit, veggies, milk, yogurt, cereals, etc. There is no point feeding
children foods that they won't eat. I've been to the school cafeteria
in my town, I think the menu is quite healthful and varied and most
kids like the foods served. It's a lunchroom, it's not supposed to be
the kid's primary food source. The obese kids get that way from their
lifestyle at home, not from the school cafeteria.

On Tue, 15 Nov 2011 10:38:15 -0800, Mark Thorson >
wrote:

>ImStillMags wrote:
>>
>> Food companies that produce frozen pizzas for schools, the salt
>> industry and potato growers requested the changes, and some
>> conservatives in Congress say the federal government shouldn't be
>> telling children what to eat.
>
>Baloney! The salt industry could care less what's
>served for lunch at schools. Salt for human consumption
>is a tiny fraction of their business.

Boloney! The food served at school cafeterias contains no more salt
than hospital food, in fact much of it is hospital food.

On Nov 15, 12:38*pm, Mark Thorson > wrote:
> ImStillMags wrote:
>
> > Food companies that produce frozen pizzas for schools, the salt
> > industry and potato growers requested the changes, and some
> > conservatives in Congress say the federal government shouldn't be
> > telling children what to eat.
>
> Baloney! *The salt industry could care less what's
> served for lunch at schools. *Salt for human consumption
> is a tiny fraction of their business. *That would be
> like the mercury industry caring about whether mercury
> compounds are used in vaccines.

Yeah, that was pretty absurd. The salt industry. It was the potato
growers but also the process food industry like Kraft and ConAgra.
One more example of Obama, good, Congressional Republicans, bad.

--Bryan

On Nov 15, 4:46*pm, spamtrap1888 > wrote:
>
>
> Whole wheat flour contains all the evil of white flour, plus bran and
> wheat germ. Explain the benefits of adding wheat germ and bran to
> children's diets, then I'll buy into your conspiracy theory.
>
True, that the B vitamins in wheat germ have been replaced by added
vitamins in enriched white flour, but fiber is a good thing. Even a
major carb peddler says so: http://www.kelloggsnutrition.com/kno...rchildren.aspx
Fiber slows digestion, and reduces the glycemic impact. Our school
district cooks things pretty much from scratch, and includes a lot of
locally grown foods: http://www.mrhsd.org/userfiles/files...0ES%20Menu.pdf
They make applesauce from scratch, using local apples. I live in a
very progressive community. They also do this: http://www.joesplacestl.org/

--Bryan

On Nov 15, 5:12*pm, spamtrap1888 > wrote:
>
>
> Americans have been eating white flour goods since World War I, but
> the epidemic of diabetes is happening only now. Why the 90 year time
> lag? People eat less bread than they ever did -- my skinny great uncle
> was remarkable in our family for eating two slices of white bread at
> every meal. He is the longest lived of the siblings at 94 this year.

Americans also eat more calories these days, and the higher the
glycemic index a meal is, the more it leads to obesity.
>
> Don't confuse cause and effect. Just because diabetics should avoid
> white flour does not mean that white flour causes diabetes.
>
Obesity and high glycemic foods do lead to diabetes. White flour is
higher GI than whole wheat. Potatoes are about the worst. Eating as
if one already has type II diabetes reduces the likelihood of
developing the disease, and also reduces the chance of becoming
obese. The one fault I find with my child's school lunches is that
they still serve mashed potatoes, which are very high GI.

--Bryan

On Nov 15, 6:30*pm, Bryan > wrote:
....
>
> Obesity and high glycemic foods do lead to diabetes. *White flour is
> higher GI than whole wheat. *Potatoes are about the worst.
....

Gee Bryan, I guess I'm gonna be Type II DM then, cause I eat potatoes
regularly!

;-)

John Kuthe...

On Nov 15, 6:14*pm, Bryan > wrote:
....
> Fiber slows digestion, and reduces the glycemic impact.
....

Um, NO!! But thank you for playing amateur nutritionist.

John Kuthe...

On Nov 15, 4:54*pm, John Kuthe > wrote:
> On Nov 15, 6:14*pm, Bryan > wrote:
> ...> Fiber slows digestion, and reduces the glycemic impact.
>
> ...
>
> Um, NO!! But thank you for playing amateur nutritionist.
>
> John Kuthe...

The difference in Glycemic Index between white bread and whole wheat
bread is zero or negligible, according to the GI Database.

http://www.glycemicindex.com/

On Nov 15, 6:37*pm, John Kuthe > wrote:
> On Nov 15, 6:30*pm, Bryan > wrote:
> ...
>
> > Obesity and high glycemic foods do lead to diabetes. *White flour is
> > higher GI than whole wheat. *Potatoes are about the worst.
>
> ...
>
> Gee Bryan, I guess I'm gonna be Type II DM then, cause I eat potatoes
> regularly!
>
Not everyone who eats "potatoes regularly" is destined for diabetes.
You have never been more than about 15% overweight. You've never had
an eating disorder.
>
> John Kuthe...

--Bryan

In article >, says...

> Grain is just another vegitable. It's position as a "food group" or as
> the "base of the food pyramid" is not justified in that sense. There is
> no advantage to replacing a serving of carrots with a serving of grain
> except price.

You need to learn how to read a nutritional analysis if you believe that
to be the case.

On Nov 15, 4:30*pm, Bryan > wrote:
> On Nov 15, 5:12*pm, spamtrap1888 > wrote:
>
>
>
> > Americans have been eating white flour goods since World War I, but
> > the epidemic of diabetes is happening only now. Why the 90 year time
> > lag? People eat less bread than they ever did -- my skinny great uncle
> > was remarkable in our family for eating two slices of white bread at
> > every meal. He is the longest lived of the siblings at 94 this year.
>
> Americans also eat more calories these days, and the higher the
> glycemic index a meal is, the more it leads to obesity.

The increase in calories over the past 30 some years is split equally
between fats and oils and grains. Buttering your bread will lower the
glycemic index of your snack.

http://www.ers.usda.gov/AmberWaves/N...onsumption.htm

>
> > Don't confuse cause and effect. Just because diabetics should avoid
> > white flour does not mean that white flour causes diabetes.
>
> Obesity and high glycemic foods do lead to diabetes. *White flour is
> higher GI than whole wheat. *Potatoes are about the worst. *Eating as
> if one already has type II diabetes reduces the likelihood of
> developing the disease, and also reduces the chance of becoming
> obese.

We ate tons of bread and potatoes back before we all adopted a
sedentary lifestyle.

In article >,
Brooklyn1 <Gravesend1> wrote:

> On Tue, 15 Nov 2011 09:41:19 -0800 (PST), ImStillMags
> > wrote:
>
> >
> >Congress wants to keep pizza and french fries on school lunch lines,
> >fighting back against an Obama administration proposal to make school
> >lunches healthier.
>
> The obamas are the last people on the planet to preach health, he
> smokes like a chimney and she has an ass that turns the corner after
> her.

Wrong. Obama gave up smoking. He also got stellar results on his last
annual physical, which was only a few weeks ago. I also disagree with
you on the First Lady's posterior. It isn't petite, but it sure isn't
fat either.

> Pizza happens to be a nutritious food and the portion of fries in
> school cafeterias is miniscule, the pizza portion is smaller than
> you'd get at a pizzaria... and those items are not served every day.
> And there are many other choices from the various food catagories;
> fruit, veggies, milk, yogurt, cereals, etc. There is no point feeding
> children foods that they won't eat. I've been to the school cafeteria
> in my town, I think the menu is quite healthful and varied and most
> kids like the foods served. It's a lunchroom, it's not supposed to be
> the kid's primary food source. The obese kids get that way from their
> lifestyle at home, not from the school cafeteria.

Wrong again.

On Tue, 15 Nov 2011 16:14:46 -0800 (PST), Bryan
> wrote:

>On Nov 15, 4:46*pm, spamtrap1888 > wrote:
>>
>>
>> Whole wheat flour contains all the evil of white flour, plus bran and
>> wheat germ. Explain the benefits of adding wheat germ and bran to
>> children's diets, then I'll buy into your conspiracy theory.
>>
>True, that the B vitamins in wheat germ have been replaced by added
>vitamins in enriched white flour, but fiber is a good thing. Even a
>major carb peddler says so: http://www.kelloggsnutrition.com/kno...rchildren.aspx
>Fiber slows digestion, and reduces the glycemic impact. Our school
>district cooks things pretty much from scratch, and includes a lot of
>locally grown foods: http://www.mrhsd.org/userfiles/files...0ES%20Menu.pdf
>They make applesauce from scratch, using local apples. I live in a
>very progressive community. They also do this: http://www.joesplacestl.org/

Two know nothing imbeciles hurling sound and fury signifying nothing.
Unless is says _100%_ whole wheat it isn't. 100% whole wheat includes
the germ, whole wheat does not. It's the wheat germ that contains the
essential nutrients. When yoose buy whole wheat pasta you're engaged
in mental masturbation... you're getting the bran but not the germ...
you'd get the same result eating metamucil.

On Tue, 15 Nov 2011 16:37:24 -0800 (PST), John Kuthe
> wrote:

>On Nov 15, 6:30*pm, Bryan > wrote:
>...
>>
>> Obesity and high glycemic foods do lead to diabetes. *White flour is
>> higher GI than whole wheat. *Potatoes are about the worst.
>...
>
>Gee Bryan, I guess I'm gonna be Type II DM then, cause I eat potatoes
>regularly!

No, that just means you're a mick.

On Nov 15, 2:55*pm, "jmcquown" > wrote:
> "sf" > wrote in message
>
> news
> > > wrote:
>
> >> Congress wants to keep pizza and french fries on school lunch lines,
> >> fighting back against an Obama administration proposal to make school
> >> lunches healthier.
>
> > It figures.
>
> I'm not for government control about what kids eat (I took PB sandwiches for
> lunch all the time; apparently I could have exacerbated some kids' allergy
> by eating it). *But I don't see why making lunches healthier is a bad thing.
> I'd still make a slice of pizza available if that's what the parents want..
> IIRC (and it was a long time ago) the pizza was about as tasteless as
> cardboard and the french fries were limp, unappetizing things.

The French fries were AWFUL! Unhealthy *and* unappetizing. The pizza
was bad too.
I really liked the canned corn and green beans. I didn't like the
taste of the sloppy joes,
but they were tolerable, and filling. Some of the food at my son's
school actually sounds good.
>
> Jill

--Bryan

On Nov 15, 8:40*pm, Brooklyn1 <Gravesend1> wrote:
> On Tue, 15 Nov 2011 16:37:24 -0800 (PST), John Kuthe
>
> > wrote:
> >On Nov 15, 6:30*pm, Bryan > wrote:
> >...
>
> >> Obesity and high glycemic foods do lead to diabetes. *White flour is
> >> higher GI than whole wheat. *Potatoes are about the worst.
> >...
>
> >Gee Bryan, I guess I'm gonna be Type II DM then, cause I eat potatoes
> >regularly!
>
> No, that just means you're a mick.

I think that Mr. Kuthe is at least mostly from German stock.

--Bryan

On Nov 15, 8:43*pm, Bryan > wrote:
....
> I think that Mr. Kuthe is at least mostly from German stock.
>
> --Bryan


3/4 from the Fatherland! Both paternal and one maternal grandparent
were German immigrants circa 1900.

John Kuthe...

On Nov 15, 8:41*pm, Bryan > wrote:
....
> The French fries were AWFUL! *Unhealthy *and* unappetizing.
.....

I remember the limp soggy fries at LHS. I thought of them mostly as an
excuse to eat salt and ketchup. And those pathetic little grease
soaked paper bags they sold them in! Ugh! I remember going out to The
Browns with them.

John Kuthe...

John Kuthe wrote:
> On Nov 15, 8:41 pm, Bryan > wrote:
> ...
>> The French fries were AWFUL! Unhealthy *and* unappetizing.
> ....
>
> I remember the limp soggy fries at LHS. I thought of them mostly as an
> excuse to eat salt and ketchup. And those pathetic little grease
> soaked paper bags they sold them in! Ugh! I remember going out to The
> Browns with them.

I don't think we ever had fries at our school. But maybe we did and I just
didn't eat them. As a child the only fries I would eat were the ones from
McDonalds and they were not even a favorite food.

We seemed to have the same few things over and over again. Hamburger gravy
over mashed potatoes. I liked that. A sticky scoop of rice with icky
canned stuff over it like Chun King with a few little crispy noodles on top.
Spaghetti. Tacos that were baked in the oven with beans and cheese in them.
I did like them but they bore no resemblence to real tacos. They were just
a soggy mess. Hamburgers but the meat patties were always a grey color and
a strange texture as if a lot of filler had been put in. Wiener Winks.
These were a hot dog with some sort of bread dough wrapped around them and
baked. Pizza which was a soggy white breadish crust with plain canned
tomatoes on top and some kind of yellow cheese. Yick. Barbecued beef on
buttered bun. Once in a while fried chicken legs. Tetrazzini. And on
Fridays it was always fish sticks and mashed potatoes. Sides were a roll
and butter, Jell-O, canned fruit or 1/4 of an apple or orange, stewed prunes
or canned veggies. Dessert was a cookie, ice cream cup or maybe a piece of
cake.

Doug Freyburger > wrote:

>When I read the labels on bread marked "Whole Wheat" the whole grain is
>often at levels that I would describe as flavoring. I think the crust
>needs to be made "of" whole grain not "using" whole grain.

In the U.S. by federal law any product labeled both "bread" and
"whole wheat" must contain whole wheat flour as its only flour ingredient.
It cannot contain any white flour.

Products that are something other than bread are not subject to this
particular restriction.


Steve

Brooklyn1 wrote:

> Pizza happens to be a nutritious food and the portion of fries in
> school cafeterias is miniscule, the pizza portion is smaller than
> you'd get at a pizzaria... and those items are not served every day.
> And there are many other choices from the various food catagories;
> fruit, veggies, milk, yogurt, cereals, etc. There is no point feeding
> children foods that they won't eat. I've been to the school cafeteria
> in my town, I think the menu is quite healthful and varied and most
> kids like the foods served. It's a lunchroom, it's not supposed to be
> the kid's primary food source. The obese kids get that way from their
> lifestyle at home, not from the school cafeteria.

I agree with you completely, Brooklyn1. Pizza isn't the most evil food,
especially if you make it with nice ingredients. That's what my daughter
ate for breakfast before school for many years.

Another thing: So many ppl talk about how crappy school lunches were? I
always liked them back in my day. For me, a school lunch was much better
than any bag lunch that I took to school.

PS - and "back in my day," (the 60's) the school lunches cost 35 cents, then
rose up to 50 cents at one point. heheheh

I also remember those little half-pint milk cartons only cost 2 cents each
when I was in elementary school. I wonder what they charge now?

On Wed, 16 Nov 2011 10:59:48 -0500, Gary > wrote:

> I also remember those little half-pint milk cartons only cost 2 cents each
> when I was in elementary school. I wonder what they charge now?

I don't know where you lived or if your milk was subsidized, but it
cost 5¢ when I was in elementary school (50's+) and that was in the
sticks of Michigan.

--
All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.

On 11/16/2011 9:59 AM, Gary wrote:
> Another thing: So many ppl talk about how crappy school lunches were? I
> always liked them back in my day. For me, a school lunch was much better
> than any bag lunch that I took to school.
>
> PS - and "back in my day," (the 60's) the school lunches cost 35 cents, then
> rose up to 50 cents at one point. heheheh
>
> I also remember those little half-pint milk cartons only cost 2 cents each
> when I was in elementary school. I wonder what they charge now?

3 cents for milk in elementary school in the 50's.

Lunches were 25 cents through 1964, then they went to 35 cents and
people were outraged.

Even for my family who did not have a lot of money, school lunches were
a good deal.

George L

sf wrote:
>
> On Wed, 16 Nov 2011 10:59:48 -0500, Gary > wrote:
>
> > I also remember those little half-pint milk cartons only cost 2 cents each
> > when I was in elementary school. I wonder what they charge now?
>
> I don't know where you lived or if your milk was subsidized, but it
> cost 5¢ when I was in elementary school (50's+) and that was in the
> sticks of Michigan.

Back then I lived near Annapolis, MD and that was the price of those little
milkies. No subsidizing that I'm aware of. Maybe the school district made
a good deal with the supplier?

Gary

On Wed, 16 Nov 2011 10:13:59 -0600, George Leppla
> wrote:

>On 11/16/2011 9:59 AM, Gary wrote:
>> Another thing: So many ppl talk about how crappy school lunches were? I
>> always liked them back in my day. For me, a school lunch was much better
>> than any bag lunch that I took to school.
>>
>> PS - and "back in my day," (the 60's) the school lunches cost 35 cents, then
>> rose up to 50 cents at one point. heheheh
>>
>> I also remember those little half-pint milk cartons only cost 2 cents each
>> when I was in elementary school. I wonder what they charge now?
>
>3 cents for milk in elementary school in the 50's.
>
>Lunches were 25 cents through 1964, then they went to 35 cents and
>people were outraged.

We never had a cafeteria until high school. It was all ala cart and
you could get a meal for under a buck. I started driving my sophomore
year and we'd go to mcdonalds.

Lou

On Wed, 16 Nov 2011 10:59:48 -0500, Gary > wrote:

>Brooklyn1 wrote:
>
>> Pizza happens to be a nutritious food and the portion of fries in
>> school cafeterias is miniscule, the pizza portion is smaller than
>> you'd get at a pizzaria... and those items are not served every day.
>> And there are many other choices from the various food catagories;
>> fruit, veggies, milk, yogurt, cereals, etc. There is no point feeding
>> children foods that they won't eat. I've been to the school cafeteria
>> in my town, I think the menu is quite healthful and varied and most
>> kids like the foods served. It's a lunchroom, it's not supposed to be
>> the kid's primary food source. The obese kids get that way from their
>> lifestyle at home, not from the school cafeteria.
>
>I agree with you completely, Brooklyn1. Pizza isn't the most evil food,
>especially if you make it with nice ingredients. That's what my daughter
>ate for breakfast before school for many years.
>
>Another thing: So many ppl talk about how crappy school lunches were? I
>always liked them back in my day. For me, a school lunch was much better
>than any bag lunch that I took to school.
>
>PS - and "back in my day," (the 60's) the school lunches cost 35 cents, then
>rose up to 50 cents at one point. heheheh
>
>I also remember those little half-pint milk cartons only cost 2 cents each
>when I was in elementary school. I wonder what they charge now?

The kids from the "poor" families (about 50% of the school population)
get everything for free, those of us who are gainfully employed are
afforded the honor of spreading our "wealth" amongst the lazy useless
parasites.

On 16/11/2011 4:50 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:

>
> The kids from the "poor" families (about 50% of the school population)
> get everything for free, those of us who are gainfully employed are
> afforded the honor of spreading our "wealth" amongst the lazy useless
> parasites.


What? Poor kids are getting everything for free and kids from wealthier
families are working for their lunch money?

On Wed, 16 Nov 2011 17:42:19 -0500, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 16/11/2011 4:50 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>
>>
>> The kids from the "poor" families (about 50% of the school population)
>> get everything for free, those of us who are gainfully employed are
>> afforded the honor of spreading our "wealth" amongst the lazy useless
>> parasites.
>
>
>What? Poor kids are getting everything for free and kids from wealthier
>families are working for their lunch money?

Figures a douchebag the likes of you would be functionally illiterate
too... the definition of "families" escapes you... nowhere did I say
kids working. However I was gainfully employed at real jobs since I
was eleven years old... many kids worked then then.