On 12/1/2011 4:52 PM, Janet Wilder wrote:
> On 12/1/2011 10:23 AM, Storrmmee wrote:
>> he is too young to wean, teeth aren't a true indicator, since he has
>> grown
>> so much, keep just nursing, you might put some food nearby and get him to
>> taste it but as long as he is willingly nursing he needs to do so, one
>> small
>> tip, you can make the kmr a little stronger than stated to give extra
>> calories, Lee
>
>
> He seems to be thriving on the one past powder to two parts water. I'm
> not messing with what's working. We try to leave the food experiments
> for him, but the Poodle, the little thief, gloms it down.

LOL - figures the other 'critter' would do that ;> Sneaky guy!

Sky

--

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Ultimate Kitchen Rule -- Cook's Choice!!

On Dec 1, 5:56*pm, Bryan > wrote:
> On Dec 1, 5:40*pm, John Kuthe > wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Dec 1, 5:34*pm, Bryan > wrote:
> > ...
>
> > > Cheap and filling. *Like McDonald's. *I have found a new vet for
> > > Gigi.http://www.animalhealthandhealing.com/
> > > They don't whore for Science Diet.
> > > What's nice is that I've found dry food that we can give her when
> > > we're on vacation. *It's awfully expensive, but considering that we
> > > pay a kid to come over and feed/water/pet her every day, the $28 will
> > > just be part of the cost of the vacation. *I do wish it came in a
> > > smaller size though (6.6# is the smallest).
>
> > > > John Kuthe...
>
> > > --Bryan
>
> > Cater to your ego all you want. It's just a cat. As long as they are
> > well fed and watered regularly, provided a safe comfortable dry place
> > to live and given attention when they demand, they are the luckiest
> > cats in the world.
>
> My cat was sick, John. *It's not about ego. *I had one cat die
> prematurely from diabetes, one I liked a heck of a lot more than the
> current one. *I was having to give Abigail insulin shots. *Now I know
> that if I'd taken her off of the dry food, she would have needed
> little or no insulin. *Instead, I listened to my vet, a whore for
> Science Diet. *When I took Gigi off of the dry food, she became no
> longer sick. *No more drinking almost a freakin' PINT of water a day.
>
>
>
> > John Kuthe...
>
> --Bryan

You sure seem to have bad luck with cats. Dunno, the one I inhered
seems just fine. She eats far more than she drinks, and has just
recently taken up the habit of jumping in the bathtub after I shower
to drink the warm shower water in the bottom of the tub! Silly
Kitty! :-)

John Kuthe...

On Dec 1, 6:16*pm, John Kuthe > wrote:
> On Dec 1, 5:56*pm, Bryan > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Dec 1, 5:40*pm, John Kuthe > wrote:
>
> > > On Dec 1, 5:34*pm, Bryan > wrote:
> > > ...
>
> > > > Cheap and filling. *Like McDonald's. *I have found a new vet for
> > > > Gigi.http://www.animalhealthandhealing.com/
> > > > They don't whore for Science Diet.
> > > > What's nice is that I've found dry food that we can give her when
> > > > we're on vacation. *It's awfully expensive, but considering that we
> > > > pay a kid to come over and feed/water/pet her every day, the $28 will
> > > > just be part of the cost of the vacation. *I do wish it came in a
> > > > smaller size though (6.6# is the smallest).
>
> > > > > John Kuthe...
>
> > > > --Bryan
>
> > > Cater to your ego all you want. It's just a cat. As long as they are
> > > well fed and watered regularly, provided a safe comfortable dry place
> > > to live and given attention when they demand, they are the luckiest
> > > cats in the world.
>
> > My cat was sick, John. *It's not about ego. *I had one cat die
> > prematurely from diabetes, one I liked a heck of a lot more than the
> > current one. *I was having to give Abigail insulin shots. *Now I know
> > that if I'd taken her off of the dry food, she would have needed
> > little or no insulin. *Instead, I listened to my vet, a whore for
> > Science Diet. *When I took Gigi off of the dry food, she became no
> > longer sick. *No more drinking almost a freakin' PINT of water a day.
>
> > > John Kuthe...
>
> > --Bryan
>
> You sure seem to have bad luck with cats. Dunno, the one I inhered
> seems just fine. She eats far more than she drinks, and has just
> recently taken up the habit of jumping in the bathtub after I shower
> to drink the warm shower water in the bottom of the tub! Silly
> Kitty! :-)

When Gigi started showing symptoms of diabetes, I thought, "WTF?" Two
cats in a row? I started doing research online and it became obvious
that feline diabetes was diet related, and that conventional dry cat
food was full of cereal, which cats are not evolved to eat. When Gigi
used to be obsessed with water, she never missed a chance to drink
that shower water, but she never does that anymore. We give her fresh
water, but not because she has drank it all, but because we want her
to have nice, fresh water. Most cats seem to do OK on kibble, but it
is not their natural diet. Their natural diet is birds, mammals,
fish, reptiles, amphibians and insects, as well as the contents of
those animals' guts.
>
> John Kuthe...

--Bryan

On Dec 1, 2:56*pm, Janet Wilder > wrote:

Have you tried giving him his formula out of a little bowl or saucer
to see if he will lap it up?
He might go for that and if he does you could start adding the tinest
bit of soft foods in there.

He may still be too young for anything but nursing.

As I said before, I wish I lived close to you, I'd come babysit and
cuddle and nurse him.
Nothing sweeter than a kitten kneading nursing and purring.

On 12/1/2011 4:18 PM, sf wrote:
> On Thu, 1 Dec 2011 08:43:04 -0500, "J. >
> wrote:
>
>> That said, I'd say let it nurse until it's ready not to. I had a cat
>> that I think was weaned too early. He sucked. I mean long after he was
>> a full grown cat he would muckle onto you and give you cat hickeys if
>> you didn't pay attention to what he was doing. The cat giving "kisses"
>> was kind of cute but he'd keep going for hours if you let him.
>
> Isn't being weaned too early also the reason why cats knead? I hate
> it when they do that.
>
I have a pair of littermates that were found at about 5 weeks of age
along with 2 other in the litter. Someone else took the other 2 and I
took mine when they were about 7 weeks. But my two, now about 7 years
old still knead a lot. The female, Scarlett, kneads on me while Rhett,
her brother, kneads *near* me on the couch but not *on* me. I prefer
his method.

On 12/1/2011 5:39 PM, Jerry Avins wrote:

>
> Late last spring, a litter of kittens was born in a corner of my
> garage (crowded with junk and other stuff). I don't know why, but one
> of them has been hanging out behind my house, living under the broad
> eave behind a hibachi that I won't move. Mooch, my dog, is out there
> frequently, without conflict. It didn't surprise me because I thought
> that she ignored cats. The other day, I went out through a door I
> rarely use and apparently frightened the now-nearly-full-grown beast.
> The cat ran .. straight to Mooch, apparently for protection. It had
> struck me as curious that Mooch would frequently go outside with a
> mouthful of food. Now I wonder if she has been feeding her "pet".
>

What a neat story! I don't know if you could, but it would be good to
have the kitty neutered/spayed if you can. But if s/he is full grown,
it's likely a male if you haven't found more kittens. Have you noticed a
foul stench?

On Dec 1, 7:48*pm, Cheryl > wrote:
> On 12/1/2011 5:39 PM, Jerry Avins wrote:
>
>
>
> > Late last spring, a litter of kittens was born in a corner of my
> > garage (crowded with junk and other stuff). I don't know why, but one
> > of them has been hanging out behind my house, living under the broad
> > eave behind a hibachi that I won't move. Mooch, my dog, is out there
> > frequently, without conflict. It didn't surprise me because I thought
> > that she ignored cats. The other day, I went out through a door I
> > rarely use and apparently frightened the now-nearly-full-grown beast.
> > The cat ran .. straight to Mooch, apparently for protection. It had
> > struck me as curious that Mooch would frequently go outside with a
> > mouthful of food. Now I wonder if she has been feeding her "pet".
>
> What a neat story! I don't know if you could, but it would be good to
> have the kitty neutered/spayed if you can. But if s/he is full grown,
> it's likely a male if you haven't found more kittens. Have you noticed a
> foul stench? *

All cats should be spayed/neutered unless one is a licensed breeder of
purebreeds.
People who fail to fix their cats and dogs should have their front
teeth kicked out.

--Bryan

On 12/1/2011 4:39 PM, Jerry Avins wrote:
> On Nov 30, 9:17 pm, Janet > wrote:
>> We are fostering another kitten. Got this one a week ago. A fellow
>> brought it to the shelter. It seems that mama cat had a litter on the
>> roof of his house. She managed to get all the kittens down, but this
>> little one fell off the roof. The fellow had 3 dogs who were hovering
>> over the tiny kitten, so he rescued it and gave it to the mom who
>> rejected it.
>
> ...
>
> Late last spring, a litter of kittens was born in a corner of my
> garage (crowded with junk and other stuff). I don't know why, but one
> of them has been hanging out behind my house, living under the broad
> eave behind a hibachi that I won't move. Mooch, my dog, is out there
> frequently, without conflict. It didn't surprise me because I thought
> that she ignored cats. The other day, I went out through a door I
> rarely use and apparently frightened the now-nearly-full-grown beast.
> The cat ran .. straight to Mooch, apparently for protection. It had
> struck me as curious that Mooch would frequently go outside with a
> mouthful of food. Now I wonder if she has been feeding her "pet".


What a lovely story, Jerry.

Regards to you from Brenda Hoke. I talked to her the other day. She is
one of my best friends in the world.

--
Janet Wilder
Way-the-heck-south Texas
Spelling doesn't count. Cooking does.

On 12/1/2011 5:24 PM, Storrmmee wrote:
> janet, my cat TV was developmentally disabled, he took longer to learn to
> eat, he was at least two weeks behind his sister, and he never did learn to
> drink properly by lapping until into his adulthood, and until his death if
> he were really thirsty he would suck the water rather than lap. Lee


Lee, I do have the feeling that he might have a developmental issue or
be a runt and that is why momma let him to fall off the roof and would
not take him back when the fellow who owned the home rescued hin from
the dogs.

He is very playful and starting to show curiosity. He is extremely
attached to DH and follows him around like a puppy dog. He has started
attempting to engage the Poodle in play.

We are seeing signs of maturing, but not where it comes to food.

--
Janet Wilder
Way-the-heck-south Texas
Spelling doesn't count. Cooking does.

On 12/1/2011 5:27 PM, Storrmmee wrote:
> and iirc he trotted out all of this propaganda the last kitten you had,
> seems since he has nothing of value to contribute he insists on being a
> schill for the priceir cat foods, wonder if he has stock or is really that
> stupid? Lee


Lee,

I have many, many wonderful friends and acquaintances who like me. The
fact that Sheldon doesn't like me, means nothing. No doubt I once
posted something that I knew and he didn't and that threatened him.

He's a lonely person and deserves our pity more than our disdain.

--
Janet Wilder
Way-the-heck-south Texas
Spelling doesn't count. Cooking does.

On 12/1/2011 5:31 PM, Storrmmee wrote:
> that is a good sign, if we assume he is in fact say four weeks old then we
> can also assume he is underweight, so bottlee feeding is right as he needs
> the calories to catch up, when storrmmee came to us she was nine ounces and
> only three weeks old, she got her feedings on demand, and it took a week for
> the first ounce to get on, after tht it was faster, but she wanted her
> bottle until she was about seven weeks old, then she saw dh feeding canned
> to one of the other cats got jealous and began weaning herself, Lee


He was showing some interest in the Poodle's kibble tonight. I don't
think he wanted to eat it, but I believe he thought it smelled good.
Poodle eats a kibble with no corn, wheat or soy. Couldn't hurt the
kitten if he got into it, but the pieces are way to big for is little mouth.

--
Janet Wilder
Way-the-heck-south Texas
Spelling doesn't count. Cooking does.

this might be physical in nature, did he have any other physical annomolies,
like you can see his hangy down parts already? or his teeth are too large
for his assumed age? Lee
"Janet Wilder" > wrote in message
b.com...
> On 12/1/2011 5:24 PM, Storrmmee wrote:
>> janet, my cat TV was developmentally disabled, he took longer to learn to
>> eat, he was at least two weeks behind his sister, and he never did learn
>> to
>> drink properly by lapping until into his adulthood, and until his death
>> if
>> he were really thirsty he would suck the water rather than lap. Lee
>
>
> Lee, I do have the feeling that he might have a developmental issue or be
> a runt and that is why momma let him to fall off the roof and would not
> take him back when the fellow who owned the home rescued hin from the
> dogs.
>
> He is very playful and starting to show curiosity. He is extremely
> attached to DH and follows him around like a puppy dog. He has started
> attempting to engage the Poodle in play.
>
> We are seeing signs of maturing, but not where it comes to food.
>
> --
> Janet Wilder
> Way-the-heck-south Texas
> Spelling doesn't count. Cooking does.

i was referring to bryan, blessedly like bryan i only see those posts if
someone responds to him, i can't help but read when they appear from either
its like a train wreck sorta thing, sheldon probably doesn't like you
because you are putting your money where your mouth is and actualy doing
what is best for the kitten and not doing what serves your ego, Lee
"Janet Wilder" > wrote in message
b.com...
> On 12/1/2011 5:27 PM, Storrmmee wrote:
>> and iirc he trotted out all of this propaganda the last kitten you had,
>> seems since he has nothing of value to contribute he insists on being a
>> schill for the priceir cat foods, wonder if he has stock or is really
>> that
>> stupid? Lee
>
>
> Lee,
>
> I have many, many wonderful friends and acquaintances who like me. The
> fact that Sheldon doesn't like me, means nothing. No doubt I once posted
> something that I knew and he didn't and that threatened him.
>
> He's a lonely person and deserves our pity more than our disdain.
>
> --
> Janet Wilder
> Way-the-heck-south Texas
> Spelling doesn't count. Cooking does.

On 12/1/2011 6:58 PM, ImStillMags wrote:
> On Dec 1, 2:56 pm, Janet > wrote:
>
> Have you tried giving him his formula out of a little bowl or saucer
> to see if he will lap it up?
> He might go for that and if he does you could start adding the tinest
> bit of soft foods in there.

He will not lap. If he did, I'd be sneaking stuff into the bowl. All he
wants to do is suckle.
>
> He may still be too young for anything but nursing.
>
> As I said before, I wish I lived close to you, I'd come babysit and
> cuddle and nurse him.
> Nothing sweeter than a kitten kneading nursing and purring.

He is soooo sweet. I just love to hold him close to my chest and give
him his bottle. He looks up at me with those murky blue eyes and I just
melt. He has his paws wrapped around the neck of the bottle, holding on
so that no one can take it away. He sucks so hard that I have to burp him!

I am about to sign off and go watch some TV. Guess who will be in my
lap :-)
--
Janet Wilder
Way-the-heck-south Texas
Spelling doesn't count. Cooking does.

might be a good teething item though, it won't hurt him unless he decides
that is all he wants, as long as he is still getting a bottle crunching
poodles food is fair game, lol, Lee
"Janet Wilder" > wrote in message
b.com...
> On 12/1/2011 5:31 PM, Storrmmee wrote:
>> that is a good sign, if we assume he is in fact say four weeks old then
>> we
>> can also assume he is underweight, so bottlee feeding is right as he
>> needs
>> the calories to catch up, when storrmmee came to us she was nine ounces
>> and
>> only three weeks old, she got her feedings on demand, and it took a week
>> for
>> the first ounce to get on, after tht it was faster, but she wanted her
>> bottle until she was about seven weeks old, then she saw dh feeding
>> canned
>> to one of the other cats got jealous and began weaning herself, Lee
>
>
> He was showing some interest in the Poodle's kibble tonight. I don't think
> he wanted to eat it, but I believe he thought it smelled good. Poodle eats
> a kibble with no corn, wheat or soy. Couldn't hurt the kitten if he got
> into it, but the pieces are way to big for is little mouth.
>
> --
> Janet Wilder
> Way-the-heck-south Texas
> Spelling doesn't count. Cooking does.

On 12/1/2011 8:26 PM, Bryan wrote:
> On Dec 1, 7:48 pm, > wrote:
>> On 12/1/2011 5:39 PM, Jerry Avins wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> Late last spring, a litter of kittens was born in a corner of my
>>> garage (crowded with junk and other stuff). I don't know why, but one
>>> of them has been hanging out behind my house, living under the broad
>>> eave behind a hibachi that I won't move. Mooch, my dog, is out there
>>> frequently, without conflict. It didn't surprise me because I thought
>>> that she ignored cats. The other day, I went out through a door I
>>> rarely use and apparently frightened the now-nearly-full-grown beast.
>>> The cat ran .. straight to Mooch, apparently for protection. It had
>>> struck me as curious that Mooch would frequently go outside with a
>>> mouthful of food. Now I wonder if she has been feeding her "pet".
>>
>> What a neat story! I don't know if you could, but it would be good to
>> have the kitty neutered/spayed if you can. But if s/he is full grown,
>> it's likely a male if you haven't found more kittens. Have you noticed a
>> foul stench?
>
> All cats should be spayed/neutered unless one is a licensed breeder of
> purebreeds.
> People who fail to fix their cats and dogs should have their front
> teeth kicked out.
>
> --Bryan


I have a friend who sets special traps for feral cats. When she gets
them she takes them to get neutered then releases them.

--
Janet Wilder
Way-the-heck-south Texas
Spelling doesn't count. Cooking does.

On Thu, 1 Dec 2011 18:26:22 -0800 (PST), Bryan
> wrote:

>
> All cats should be spayed/neutered unless one is a licensed breeder of
> purebreeds.
> People who fail to fix their cats and dogs should have their front
> teeth kicked out.
>
I'm sure he will trap and neuter it soon.


--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

On Thu, 01 Dec 2011 20:44:56 -0500, Cheryl >
wrote:

> On 12/1/2011 4:18 PM, sf wrote:
> > On Thu, 1 Dec 2011 08:43:04 -0500, "J. >
> > wrote:
> >
> >> That said, I'd say let it nurse until it's ready not to. I had a cat
> >> that I think was weaned too early. He sucked. I mean long after he was
> >> a full grown cat he would muckle onto you and give you cat hickeys if
> >> you didn't pay attention to what he was doing. The cat giving "kisses"
> >> was kind of cute but he'd keep going for hours if you let him.
> >
> > Isn't being weaned too early also the reason why cats knead? I hate
> > it when they do that.
> >
> I have a pair of littermates that were found at about 5 weeks of age
> along with 2 other in the litter. Someone else took the other 2 and I
> took mine when they were about 7 weeks. But my two, now about 7 years
> old still knead a lot. The female, Scarlett, kneads on me while Rhett,
> her brother, kneads *near* me on the couch but not *on* me. I prefer
> his method.

Heartily agreed.

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

On 12/1/2011 9:49 PM, Janet Wilder wrote:
> On 12/1/2011 5:24 PM, Storrmmee wrote:
>> janet, my cat TV was developmentally disabled, he took longer to learn to
>> eat, he was at least two weeks behind his sister, and he never did
>> learn to
>> drink properly by lapping until into his adulthood, and until his
>> death if
>> he were really thirsty he would suck the water rather than lap. Lee
>
>
> Lee, I do have the feeling that he might have a developmental issue or
> be a runt and that is why momma let him to fall off the roof and would
> not take him back when the fellow who owned the home rescued hin from
> the dogs.
>
> He is very playful and starting to show curiosity. He is extremely
> attached to DH and follows him around like a puppy dog. He has started
> attempting to engage the Poodle in play.
>
> We are seeing signs of maturing, but not where it comes to food.
>
Bless his little bitty heart.

On 12/1/2011 9:59 PM, Janet Wilder wrote:
> On 12/1/2011 6:58 PM, ImStillMags wrote:
>> On Dec 1, 2:56 pm, Janet > wrote:
>>
>> Have you tried giving him his formula out of a little bowl or saucer
>> to see if he will lap it up?
>> He might go for that and if he does you could start adding the tinest
>> bit of soft foods in there.
>
> He will not lap. If he did, I'd be sneaking stuff into the bowl. All he
> wants to do is suckle.
>>
>> He may still be too young for anything but nursing.
>>
>> As I said before, I wish I lived close to you, I'd come babysit and
>> cuddle and nurse him.
>> Nothing sweeter than a kitten kneading nursing and purring.
>
> He is soooo sweet. I just love to hold him close to my chest and give
> him his bottle. He looks up at me with those murky blue eyes and I just
> melt. He has his paws wrapped around the neck of the bottle, holding on
> so that no one can take it away. He sucks so hard that I have to burp him!
>
> I am about to sign off and go watch some TV. Guess who will be in my lap
> :-)

On 12/1/2011 9:26 PM, Bryan wrote:
> On Dec 1, 7:48 pm, > wrote:
>> On 12/1/2011 5:39 PM, Jerry Avins wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> Late last spring, a litter of kittens was born in a corner of my
>>> garage (crowded with junk and other stuff). I don't know why, but one
>>> of them has been hanging out behind my house, living under the broad
>>> eave behind a hibachi that I won't move. Mooch, my dog, is out there
>>> frequently, without conflict. It didn't surprise me because I thought
>>> that she ignored cats. The other day, I went out through a door I
>>> rarely use and apparently frightened the now-nearly-full-grown beast.
>>> The cat ran .. straight to Mooch, apparently for protection. It had
>>> struck me as curious that Mooch would frequently go outside with a
>>> mouthful of food. Now I wonder if she has been feeding her "pet".
>>
>> What a neat story! I don't know if you could, but it would be good to
>> have the kitty neutered/spayed if you can. But if s/he is full grown,
>> it's likely a male if you haven't found more kittens. Have you noticed a
>> foul stench?
>
> All cats should be spayed/neutered unless one is a licensed breeder of
> purebreeds.
> People who fail to fix their cats and dogs should have their front
> teeth kicked out.

Jerry clearly wrote that it is a cat that was born wild, not his pet,
but hung around. He might be a reluctant caretaker.

people who choose to try and invoke violence when they aren't agreed with or
people don't do what they want are scarey to me, Lee
"Cheryl" > wrote in message
...
> On 12/1/2011 9:26 PM, Bryan wrote:
>> On Dec 1, 7:48 pm, > wrote:
>>> On 12/1/2011 5:39 PM, Jerry Avins wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Late last spring, a litter of kittens was born in a corner of my
>>>> garage (crowded with junk and other stuff). I don't know why, but one
>>>> of them has been hanging out behind my house, living under the broad
>>>> eave behind a hibachi that I won't move. Mooch, my dog, is out there
>>>> frequently, without conflict. It didn't surprise me because I thought
>>>> that she ignored cats. The other day, I went out through a door I
>>>> rarely use and apparently frightened the now-nearly-full-grown beast.
>>>> The cat ran .. straight to Mooch, apparently for protection. It had
>>>> struck me as curious that Mooch would frequently go outside with a
>>>> mouthful of food. Now I wonder if she has been feeding her "pet".
>>>
>>> What a neat story! I don't know if you could, but it would be good to
>>> have the kitty neutered/spayed if you can. But if s/he is full grown,
>>> it's likely a male if you haven't found more kittens. Have you noticed a
>>> foul stench?
>>
>> All cats should be spayed/neutered unless one is a licensed breeder of
>> purebreeds.
>> People who fail to fix their cats and dogs should have their front
>> teeth kicked out.
>
> Jerry clearly wrote that it is a cat that was born wild, not his pet, but
> hung around. He might be a reluctant caretaker.

On Dec 1, 5:27*pm, "Storrmmee" > wrote:
> and iirc he trotted out all of this propaganda the last kitten you had,
> seems since he has nothing of value to contribute he insists on being a
> schill for the priceir cat foods, wonder if he has stock or is really that
> stupid?

If I had a financial interest, I would state it up front. I do not.
I shill for no one.
I have never promoted ANYTHING that I had a financial stake in other
than The
Bonobos, and that was anything but a profit seeking thing. When you
accuse
me of self aggrandizement, that's one thing, but when you accuse me of
trying
to profit financially off of anything I post here, you reveal your own
stupidity.
I am very frugal, and I would never spend money to impress anyone on
this NG.
I told a lie exactly ONCE in the tens of thousands of posts I have
made to Usenet.
I was never called on it, and yet I am embarrassed when I think back
on it, even
though it was probably ten years ago, and it was a very trivial lie.

You, on the other hand, are usually all suckee-uppy, and desperate to
be liked.
The only people you criticize are ones who have questioned you. If
you want to
contribute content, perhaps you can explain how someone who is too
visually
impaired to use a newsreader or a web based thing like GoogleGroups
can
manage to cook. That could be fascinating, but all we get from you is
an
effort to seem nicer-than-thou. You may indeed be "nicer" than me,
but in
every other way you are inferior, including being stupid enough to
pick fights
with me.

> *Lee

--Bryan

On 12/1/2011 8:56 PM, Storrmmee wrote:
> this might be physical in nature, did he have any other physical annomolies,
> like you can see his hangy down parts already? or his teeth are too large
> for his assumed age? Lee


I think his testes were evident when we got him, but infant cats and
dogs often have "swollen" genitalia, when very young. I know it's hard
to tell girl puppies from boy puppies for a few weeks after birth on
some breeds. From the spacing of his holes, the shelter staff have
confirmed he's a boy.

His teeth are teeny. He doesn't have a full set yet. There are a few
more now than when we first got him.


--
Janet Wilder
Way-the-heck-south Texas
Spelling doesn't count. Cooking does.

On 12/1/2011 9:00 PM, Storrmmee wrote:
> might be a good teething item though, it won't hurt him unless he decides
> that is all he wants, as long as he is still getting a bottle crunching
> poodles food is fair game, lol, Lee


Poodle's food is better than people's fingers.
--
Janet Wilder
Way-the-heck-south Texas
Spelling doesn't count. Cooking does.

OT - For the Cat Experts

I tried to resist but here is my anecdote. My cat is 18.5 yrs old and
still like a kitten. I remember when I first brought her home I was
eating honeydew melon and she was wild for it. She also will notice when
I am eating cereal and wants me to dip my finger in the milk so she can
lick my finger. Apart from that, her feeding has been the same for all
these years. I keep a filled bowl of Purina hairball control dry food
always out-she eats sparingly from it every day and never overeats-if it
runs out she doesn't seem to care. I also give her one can of Fancy
Feast every night. She goes wild if I run out of that and expect her to
eat just the dry one night. She has preferences-she likes the grilled
Fancy Feast and wont touch the other ones. She likes the beef best. Many
of the flavors she won't touch. I give her the salmon tuna or trout
Fancy Feast occasionally and she always barfs up a bunch of the dry food
undigested when I do. She doesnt seem to efficiently drink but
apparently gets enough in a day.

On Thu, 01 Dec 2011 21:01:06 -0600, Janet Wilder
> wrote:

> I have a friend who sets special traps for feral cats. When she gets
> them she takes them to get neutered then releases them.

My mother used to do that too. She often had more than 10 at a time
that she fed daily. Increasing the feral cat population was not an
issue because of the coyotes. Those cats had an average lifetime of 2
years.

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

On Dec 1, 11:19*pm, sf > wrote:
> On Thu, 01 Dec 2011 21:01:06 -0600, Janet Wilder
>
> > wrote:
> > I have a friend who sets special traps for feral cats. When she gets
> > them she takes them to get neutered then releases them.
>
> My mother used to do that too. *She often had more than 10 at a time
> that she fed daily. *Increasing the feral cat population was not an
> issue because of the coyotes. *Those cats had an average lifetime of 2
> years.
>
My ex girlfriend is super into TNR. It's basically her life.
http://www.facebook.com/ShiraBWild
She lives near Daytona, and there are feral cats everywhere.
People who fail to fix their cats and dogs should be kicked in the
teeth.

--Bryan

if you can see his package it indicates a harder than usual birth, also can
mean an issue with high bp, and that can impair motor skills needed to
lap... if he is running and playing he will catch up. Lee
"Janet Wilder" > wrote in message
eb.com...
> On 12/1/2011 8:56 PM, Storrmmee wrote:
>> this might be physical in nature, did he have any other physical
>> annomolies,
>> like you can see his hangy down parts already? or his teeth are too large
>> for his assumed age? Lee
>
>
> I think his testes were evident when we got him, but infant cats and dogs
> often have "swollen" genitalia, when very young. I know it's hard to tell
> girl puppies from boy puppies for a few weeks after birth on some breeds.
> From the spacing of his holes, the shelter staff have confirmed he's a
> boy.
>
> His teeth are teeny. He doesn't have a full set yet. There are a few more
> now than when we first got him.
>
>
> --
> Janet Wilder
> Way-the-heck-south Texas
> Spelling doesn't count. Cooking does.

resistance is futile, ol... mine can't eat anything canned/beef, so there
you have it, every cat is different, good job for that age, Lee
"z z" > wrote in message
...
> OT - For the Cat Experts
>
> I tried to resist but here is my anecdote. My cat is 18.5 yrs old and
> still like a kitten. I remember when I first brought her home I was
> eating honeydew melon and she was wild for it. She also will notice when
> I am eating cereal and wants me to dip my finger in the milk so she can
> lick my finger. Apart from that, her feeding has been the same for all
> these years. I keep a filled bowl of Purina hairball control dry food
> always out-she eats sparingly from it every day and never overeats-if it
> runs out she doesn't seem to care. I also give her one can of Fancy
> Feast every night. She goes wild if I run out of that and expect her to
> eat just the dry one night. She has preferences-she likes the grilled
> Fancy Feast and wont touch the other ones. She likes the beef best. Many
> of the flavors she won't touch. I give her the salmon tuna or trout
> Fancy Feast occasionally and she always barfs up a bunch of the dry food
> undigested when I do. She doesnt seem to efficiently drink but
> apparently gets enough in a day.
>

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 1 Dec 2011 08:43:04 -0500, "J. Clarke" >
> wrote:
>
>> That said, I'd say let it nurse until it's ready not to. I had a cat
>> that I think was weaned too early. He sucked. I mean long after he was
>> a full grown cat he would muckle onto you and give you cat hickeys if
>> you didn't pay attention to what he was doing. The cat giving "kisses"
>> was kind of cute but he'd keep going for hours if you let him.
>
> Isn't being weaned too early also the reason why cats knead? I hate
> it when they do that.
>
No. Cats "knead" because they love you. True, it's instictive nursing
behavior but it doesn't mean they want to suck on you. They think of you as
their mother and it means they are comfortable. I love it when I'm drifting
off to sleep and Persia kneads my side and purrs It means she's content,
happy. Nothing wrong with that.

Jill

On Dec 2, 8:39*am, "jmcquown" > wrote:
> "sf" > wrote in message
>
> ... > On Thu, 1 Dec 2011 08:43:04 -0500, "J. Clarke" >
> > wrote:
>
> >> That said, I'd say let it nurse until it's ready not to. *I had a cat
> >> that I think was weaned too early. *He sucked. *I mean long after he was
> >> a full grown cat he would muckle onto you and give you cat hickeys if
> >> you didn't pay attention to what he was doing. *The cat giving "kisses"
> >> was kind of cute but he'd keep going for hours if you let him.
>
> > Isn't being weaned too early also the reason why cats knead? *I hate
> > it when they do that.
>
> No. *Cats "knead" because they love you. *True, it's instictive nursing
> behavior but it doesn't mean they want to suck on you. *They think of you as
> their mother and it means they are comfortable. *I love it when I'm drifting
> off to sleep and Persia kneads my side and purrs *It means she's content,
> happy. *Nothing wrong with that.
>
> Jill

Makin' Biscuits! ;-)

John Kuthe...

On Dec 1, 9:26*pm, Bryan > wrote:>
All cats should be spayed/neutered unless one is a licensed breeder
of
purebreeds.
People who fail to fix their cats and dogs should have their front
teeth kicked out.


______________________

Sing it, brother!!

On Fri, 2 Dec 2011 04:37:46 -0800 (PST), Bryan
> wrote:

> >
> My ex girlfriend is super into TNR. It's basically her life.
> http://www.facebook.com/ShiraBWild
> She lives near Daytona, and there are feral cats everywhere.
> People who fail to fix their cats and dogs should be kicked in the
> teeth.
>
I don't understand the mindset (or lack there-of) and gave up trying a
long time ago.

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

or happy paws, Lee
"John Kuthe" > wrote in message
...
On Dec 2, 8:39 am, "jmcquown" > wrote:
> "sf" > wrote in message
>
> ... > On Thu, 1 Dec 2011
> 08:43:04 -0500, "J. Clarke" >
> > wrote:
>
> >> That said, I'd say let it nurse until it's ready not to. I had a cat
> >> that I think was weaned too early. He sucked. I mean long after he was
> >> a full grown cat he would muckle onto you and give you cat hickeys if
> >> you didn't pay attention to what he was doing. The cat giving "kisses"
> >> was kind of cute but he'd keep going for hours if you let him.
>
> > Isn't being weaned too early also the reason why cats knead? I hate
> > it when they do that.
>
> No. Cats "knead" because they love you. True, it's instictive nursing
> behavior but it doesn't mean they want to suck on you. They think of you
> as
> their mother and it means they are comfortable. I love it when I'm
> drifting
> off to sleep and Persia kneads my side and purrs It means she's
> content,
> happy. Nothing wrong with that.
>
> Jill

Makin' Biscuits! ;-)

John Kuthe...

it is amazing that violence of any kind can be associated with a cat... now
i think none should be adopted unles altered, and i am not even sure how
much i approve of breeding animals based on genetic mutations that humans
have artifically imposed on the cats, but advocating violence because of
stupidness is beyond me, Lee
"Kalmia" > wrote in message
...
On Dec 1, 9:26 pm, Bryan > wrote:>
All cats should be spayed/neutered unless one is a licensed breeder
of
purebreeds.
People who fail to fix their cats and dogs should have their front
teeth kicked out.


______________________

Sing it, brother!!

On Dec 2, 3:31*pm, "Storrmmee" > wrote:
> it amases me that anyone who differs in opinion from bryan is evil or a
> whore...

I've known Bryan for...35 years? OMG!!! Since 1976 I think. And this
is just how he is, extremely opinionated, his way is the only
acceptable way, the best way, and everything else is shit. Black and
white thinking. It's a symptom of a mental or behavioral disorder, let
me look it up...

https://www.google.com/search?q=blac...ient=firefox-a

Oh my!! It's not only a logical fallacy, it's also a symptom of
several mental, emotional, and/or behavioral disorders!!

But that's Bryan! Love him, hate him, disagree with him, argue with
him, you are never gonna change him or his mind.

John Kuthe...

In article
>,
Bryan > wrote:

> On Dec 1, 11:19*pm, sf > wrote:
> > On Thu, 01 Dec 2011 21:01:06 -0600, Janet Wilder
> >
> > > wrote:
> > > I have a friend who sets special traps for feral cats. When she gets
> > > them she takes them to get neutered then releases them.
> >
> > My mother used to do that too. *She often had more than 10 at a time
> > that she fed daily. *Increasing the feral cat population was not an
> > issue because of the coyotes. *Those cats had an average lifetime of 2
> > years.
> >
> My ex girlfriend is super into TNR. It's basically her life.
> http://www.facebook.com/ShiraBWild
> She lives near Daytona, and there are feral cats everywhere.

So what's "TNR"? I looked at the FB page. No description. Cute
picture (but probably not your ex). I clicked on TNR. It said I had to
log on. OK. Clicked on it again, and it said:

No information has been provided... yet.

--
Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA

its just sad to me, i can block him and he really means nothing to me, but
his poor spouse, i sure hope he is gratful for your friendship. Lee


"John Kuthe" > wrote in message
...
On Dec 2, 3:31 pm, "Storrmmee" > wrote:
> it amases me that anyone who differs in opinion from bryan is evil or a
> whore...

I've known Bryan for...35 years? OMG!!! Since 1976 I think. And this
is just how he is, extremely opinionated, his way is the only
acceptable way, the best way, and everything else is shit. Black and
white thinking. It's a symptom of a mental or behavioral disorder, let
me look it up...

https://www.google.com/search?q=blac...ient=firefox-a

Oh my!! It's not only a logical fallacy, it's also a symptom of
several mental, emotional, and/or behavioral disorders!!

But that's Bryan! Love him, hate him, disagree with him, argue with
him, you are never gonna change him or his mind.

John Kuthe...

On Fri, 02 Dec 2011 13:46:13 -0800, Dan Abel > wrote:

> So what's "TNR"?

Trap aNd Return?

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.