We are fostering another kitten. Got this one a week ago. A fellow
brought it to the shelter. It seems that mama cat had a litter on the
roof of his house. She managed to get all the kittens down, but this
little one fell off the roof. The fellow had 3 dogs who were hovering
over the tiny kitten, so he rescued it and gave it to the mom who
rejected it.

He took it to the shelter on the day that DH volunteers there. DH called
me and I came to see it. Again, it was either foster it, or it goes over
the Rainbow Bridge, as it's too young for shots.

I took it home last Wednesday. It weighed 8 ounces. Today it weighs
over 11 ounces. It is starting to get some teeth.

I have made it "gruel" from softened and mashed kitten kibble and canned
kitten food mixed with kitten formula. it is not interested in food
even if we put it on our finger tips and try to feed it that way. All
it wants to do is nurse.

I would appreciate any suggestions as how to wean this little cat.
--
Janet Wilder
Way-the-heck-south Texas
Spelling doesn't count. Cooking does.

On 11/30/2011 9:17 PM, Janet Wilder wrote:
> We are fostering another kitten. Got this one a week ago. A fellow
> brought it to the shelter. It seems that mama cat had a litter on the
> roof of his house. She managed to get all the kittens down, but this
> little one fell off the roof. The fellow had 3 dogs who were hovering
> over the tiny kitten, so he rescued it and gave it to the mom who
> rejected it.
>
> He took it to the shelter on the day that DH volunteers there. DH called
> me and I came to see it. Again, it was either foster it, or it goes over
> the Rainbow Bridge, as it's too young for shots.
>
> I took it home last Wednesday. It weighed 8 ounces. Today it weighs over
> 11 ounces. It is starting to get some teeth.
>
> I have made it "gruel" from softened and mashed kitten kibble and canned
> kitten food mixed with kitten formula. it is not interested in food even
> if we put it on our finger tips and try to feed it that way. All it
> wants to do is nurse.
>
> I would appreciate any suggestions as how to wean this little cat.

You could try putting the mash in a bottle and make the nipple hole a
little bigger. Be careful he doesn't take big mouthfuls or choke. Once
he gets the taste for the food it should be easier. Good luck.

"Janet Wilder" > wrote in message
b.com...
> We are fostering another kitten. Got this one a week ago. A fellow brought
> it to the shelter. It seems that mama cat had a litter on the roof of his
> house. She managed to get all the kittens down, but this little one fell
> off the roof. The fellow had 3 dogs who were hovering over the tiny
> kitten, so he rescued it and gave it to the mom who rejected it.
>
> He took it to the shelter on the day that DH volunteers there. DH called
> me and I came to see it. Again, it was either foster it, or it goes over
> the Rainbow Bridge, as it's too young for shots.
>
> I took it home last Wednesday. It weighed 8 ounces. Today it weighs over
> 11 ounces. It is starting to get some teeth.
>
> I have made it "gruel" from softened and mashed kitten kibble and canned
> kitten food mixed with kitten formula. it is not interested in food even
> if we put it on our finger tips and try to feed it that way. All it wants
> to do is nurse.
>
> I would appreciate any suggestions as how to wean this little cat.

They almost wean themselves. There are cat products availabe for all stages
of a kittens life including KMR. I think mom cats start to wean their young
at about 6 weeks of age. You can feed them human baby food so long as it is
devoid of any onions. Onions are poison to cats. My sister has weaned
many, many kittens and that is how she does it. Just wait until they show
interest in the baby food and they'll start eating it on their own. Hard to
find mouse baby food but chicken and turkey are good second choices. The
more natural the better.

Paul

"Paul M. Cook" <>
> They almost wean themselves. There are cat products availabe for all
> stages of a kittens life including KMR. I think mom cats start to wean
> their young at about 6 weeks of age. You can feed them human baby food so
> long as it is devoid of any onions. Onions are poison to cats. My sister
> has weaned many, many kittens and that is how she does it. Just wait
> until they show interest in the baby food and they'll start eating it on
> their own. Hard to find mouse baby food but chicken and turkey are good
> second choices. The more natural the better.
>
> Paul
>
LOL. You're right. Wal-Mart sells out of mouse baby food as soon as the
stock is in. Polly

On 11/30/2011 8:49 PM, Cheryl wrote:
> On 11/30/2011 9:17 PM, Janet Wilder wrote:
>> We are fostering another kitten. Got this one a week ago. A fellow
>> brought it to the shelter. It seems that mama cat had a litter on the
>> roof of his house. She managed to get all the kittens down, but this
>> little one fell off the roof. The fellow had 3 dogs who were hovering
>> over the tiny kitten, so he rescued it and gave it to the mom who
>> rejected it.
>>
>> He took it to the shelter on the day that DH volunteers there. DH called
>> me and I came to see it. Again, it was either foster it, or it goes over
>> the Rainbow Bridge, as it's too young for shots.
>>
>> I took it home last Wednesday. It weighed 8 ounces. Today it weighs over
>> 11 ounces. It is starting to get some teeth.
>>
>> I have made it "gruel" from softened and mashed kitten kibble and canned
>> kitten food mixed with kitten formula. it is not interested in food even
>> if we put it on our finger tips and try to feed it that way. All it
>> wants to do is nurse.
>>
>> I would appreciate any suggestions as how to wean this little cat.
>
> You could try putting the mash in a bottle and make the nipple hole a
> little bigger. Be careful he doesn't take big mouthfuls or choke. Once
> he gets the taste for the food it should be easier. Good luck.
>
Great idea! We will try that.

--
Janet Wilder
Way-the-heck-south Texas
Spelling doesn't count. Cooking does.

On 11/30/2011 9:53 PM, Paul M. Cook wrote:
> "Janet > wrote in message
> b.com...
>> We are fostering another kitten. Got this one a week ago. A fellow brought
>> it to the shelter. It seems that mama cat had a litter on the roof of his
>> house. She managed to get all the kittens down, but this little one fell
>> off the roof. The fellow had 3 dogs who were hovering over the tiny
>> kitten, so he rescued it and gave it to the mom who rejected it.
>>
>> He took it to the shelter on the day that DH volunteers there. DH called
>> me and I came to see it. Again, it was either foster it, or it goes over
>> the Rainbow Bridge, as it's too young for shots.
>>
>> I took it home last Wednesday. It weighed 8 ounces. Today it weighs over
>> 11 ounces. It is starting to get some teeth.
>>
>> I have made it "gruel" from softened and mashed kitten kibble and canned
>> kitten food mixed with kitten formula. it is not interested in food even
>> if we put it on our finger tips and try to feed it that way. All it wants
>> to do is nurse.
>>
>> I would appreciate any suggestions as how to wean this little cat.
>
> They almost wean themselves. There are cat products availabe for all stages
> of a kittens life including KMR. I think mom cats start to wean their young
> at about 6 weeks of age. You can feed them human baby food so long as it is
> devoid of any onions. Onions are poison to cats. My sister has weaned
> many, many kittens and that is how she does it. Just wait until they show
> interest in the baby food and they'll start eating it on their own. Hard to
> find mouse baby food but chicken and turkey are good second choices. The
> more natural the better.
>
> Paul
>
>
Thanks for that idea. It doesn't seem to want anything to do with canned
kitten food.

--
Janet Wilder
Way-the-heck-south Texas
Spelling doesn't count. Cooking does.

"Janet Wilder" > wrote in message
eb.com...
> On 11/30/2011 9:53 PM, Paul M. Cook wrote:
>> "Janet > wrote in message
>> b.com...
>>> We are fostering another kitten. Got this one a week ago. A fellow
>>> brought
>>> it to the shelter. It seems that mama cat had a litter on the roof of
>>> his
>>> house. She managed to get all the kittens down, but this little one fell
>>> off the roof. The fellow had 3 dogs who were hovering over the tiny
>>> kitten, so he rescued it and gave it to the mom who rejected it.
>>>
>>> He took it to the shelter on the day that DH volunteers there. DH called
>>> me and I came to see it. Again, it was either foster it, or it goes over
>>> the Rainbow Bridge, as it's too young for shots.
>>>
>>> I took it home last Wednesday. It weighed 8 ounces. Today it weighs
>>> over
>>> 11 ounces. It is starting to get some teeth.
>>>
>>> I have made it "gruel" from softened and mashed kitten kibble and canned
>>> kitten food mixed with kitten formula. it is not interested in food
>>> even
>>> if we put it on our finger tips and try to feed it that way. All it
>>> wants
>>> to do is nurse.
>>>
>>> I would appreciate any suggestions as how to wean this little cat.
>>
>> They almost wean themselves. There are cat products availabe for all
>> stages
>> of a kittens life including KMR. I think mom cats start to wean their
>> young
>> at about 6 weeks of age. You can feed them human baby food so long as it
>> is
>> devoid of any onions. Onions are poison to cats. My sister has weaned
>> many, many kittens and that is how she does it. Just wait until they
>> show
>> interest in the baby food and they'll start eating it on their own. Hard
>> to
>> find mouse baby food but chicken and turkey are good second choices. The
>> more natural the better.
>>
>> Paul
>>
>>
> Thanks for that idea. It doesn't seem to want anything to do with canned
> kitten food.
>

Can he/she walk on its own yet?

Paul

Andy wrote:
>
>Once I had a huge humpbacked whale surface off a beach in Maui, HI.
>
>Without another human in sight, it gently surfaced about 100 ft off shore
>to have a look at me.
>
>I wanted to swim out and ride it.

Don't lie... you know you wanted to hump it! LOL

In article m>,
says...
>
> We are fostering another kitten. Got this one a week ago. A fellow
> brought it to the shelter. It seems that mama cat had a litter on the
> roof of his house. She managed to get all the kittens down, but this
> little one fell off the roof. The fellow had 3 dogs who were hovering
> over the tiny kitten, so he rescued it and gave it to the mom who
> rejected it.
>
> He took it to the shelter on the day that DH volunteers there. DH called
> me and I came to see it. Again, it was either foster it, or it goes over
> the Rainbow Bridge, as it's too young for shots.
>
> I took it home last Wednesday. It weighed 8 ounces. Today it weighs
> over 11 ounces. It is starting to get some teeth.
>
> I have made it "gruel" from softened and mashed kitten kibble and canned
> kitten food mixed with kitten formula. it is not interested in food
> even if we put it on our finger tips and try to feed it that way. All
> it wants to do is nurse.
>
> I would appreciate any suggestions as how to wean this little cat.

I hate to tell you this but you probably have forgotten more about the
raising of kittens than the rest of us are ever going to know.

That said, I'd say let it nurse until it's ready not to. I had a cat
that I think was weaned too early. He sucked. I mean long after he was
a full grown cat he would muckle onto you and give you cat hickeys if
you didn't pay attention to what he was doing. The cat giving "kisses"
was kind of cute but he'd keep going for hours if you let him.

On Nov 30, 8:49*pm, Cheryl > wrote:
> On 11/30/2011 9:17 PM, Janet Wilder wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > We are fostering another kitten. Got this one a week ago. A fellow
> > brought it to the shelter. It seems that mama cat had a litter on the
> > roof of his house. She managed to get all the kittens down, but this
> > little one fell off the roof. The fellow had 3 dogs who were hovering
> > over the tiny kitten, so he rescued it and gave it to the mom who
> > rejected it.
>
> > He took it to the shelter on the day that DH volunteers there. DH called
> > me and I came to see it. Again, it was either foster it, or it goes over
> > the Rainbow Bridge, as it's too young for shots.
>
> > I took it home last Wednesday. It weighed 8 ounces. Today it weighs over
> > 11 ounces. It is starting to get some teeth.
>
> > I have made it "gruel" from softened and mashed kitten kibble and canned
> > kitten food mixed with kitten formula. it is not interested in food even
> > if we put it on our finger tips and try to feed it that way. All it
> > wants to do is nurse.
>
> > I would appreciate any suggestions as how to wean this little cat.
>
> You could try putting the mash in a bottle and make the nipple hole a
> little bigger. *Be careful he doesn't take big mouthfuls or choke. *Once
> he gets the taste for the food it should be easier. *Good luck.

There's no good reason to ever feed it kibble, unless it's that you
can't afford
canned food. Cat's really aren't suited to live on high gluten corn
meal or other starchy stuff:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carnivo...ate_carnivores

--Bryan

On Dec 1, 8:08*am, Bryan > wrote:
....
> There's no good reason to ever feed it kibble, unless it's that you
> can't afford
> canned food. *Cat's really aren't suited to live on high gluten corn
> meal or other starchy stuff:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carnivo...ate_carnivores
>
> --Bryan

Kitty subsists entirely on Purina Cat Chow, and is happy and healthy.
And it stinks like fish, so I'm quite sure it's chock full of animal
proteins. Feeding a cat anything fancier is just catering to your ego.
Purina has done lot of research on animal feeds and that's why there's
a "Purina X Chow" for so many different animals! Each food is tailored
to the nutritional needs of that particular animal.

Maybe you need some Purina Human Ego Chow, Bryan! ;-)


John Kuthe...

he is too young to wean, teeth aren't a true indicator, since he has grown
so much, keep just nursing, you might put some food nearby and get him to
taste it but as long as he is willingly nursing he needs to do so, one small
tip, you can make the kmr a little stronger than stated to give extra
calories, Lee
"Janet Wilder" > wrote in message
b.com...
> We are fostering another kitten. Got this one a week ago. A fellow brought
> it to the shelter. It seems that mama cat had a litter on the roof of his
> house. She managed to get all the kittens down, but this little one fell
> off the roof. The fellow had 3 dogs who were hovering over the tiny
> kitten, so he rescued it and gave it to the mom who rejected it.
>
> He took it to the shelter on the day that DH volunteers there. DH called
> me and I came to see it. Again, it was either foster it, or it goes over
> the Rainbow Bridge, as it's too young for shots.
>
> I took it home last Wednesday. It weighed 8 ounces. Today it weighs over
> 11 ounces. It is starting to get some teeth.
>
> I have made it "gruel" from softened and mashed kitten kibble and canned
> kitten food mixed with kitten formula. it is not interested in food even
> if we put it on our finger tips and try to feed it that way. All it wants
> to do is nurse.
>
> I would appreciate any suggestions as how to wean this little cat.
> --
> Janet Wilder
> Way-the-heck-south Texas
> Spelling doesn't count. Cooking does.

only if he is peeing and pooping on his own, part of weaning/moving to more
solid foods has to do with digestion/elimination, if you go too soon it
might constipate him, Lee
"Janet Wilder" > wrote in message
eb.com...
> On 11/30/2011 8:49 PM, Cheryl wrote:
>> On 11/30/2011 9:17 PM, Janet Wilder wrote:
>>> We are fostering another kitten. Got this one a week ago. A fellow
>>> brought it to the shelter. It seems that mama cat had a litter on the
>>> roof of his house. She managed to get all the kittens down, but this
>>> little one fell off the roof. The fellow had 3 dogs who were hovering
>>> over the tiny kitten, so he rescued it and gave it to the mom who
>>> rejected it.
>>>
>>> He took it to the shelter on the day that DH volunteers there. DH called
>>> me and I came to see it. Again, it was either foster it, or it goes over
>>> the Rainbow Bridge, as it's too young for shots.
>>>
>>> I took it home last Wednesday. It weighed 8 ounces. Today it weighs over
>>> 11 ounces. It is starting to get some teeth.
>>>
>>> I have made it "gruel" from softened and mashed kitten kibble and canned
>>> kitten food mixed with kitten formula. it is not interested in food even
>>> if we put it on our finger tips and try to feed it that way. All it
>>> wants to do is nurse.
>>>
>>> I would appreciate any suggestions as how to wean this little cat.
>>
>> You could try putting the mash in a bottle and make the nipple hole a
>> little bigger. Be careful he doesn't take big mouthfuls or choke. Once
>> he gets the taste for the food it should be easier. Good luck.
>>
> Great idea! We will try that.
>
> --
> Janet Wilder
> Way-the-heck-south Texas
> Spelling doesn't count. Cooking does.

saying that any animal should have xxx diet is just the height of stupidity,
like people each animal regardless of species is an individual and needs
diet accordingly,... and as to always feeding canned, only if you have stock
in the company you are feeding so you can make enough money to adress the
health issues that will cause, Lee
"John Kuthe" > wrote in message
...
On Dec 1, 8:08 am, Bryan > wrote:
....
> There's no good reason to ever feed it kibble, unless it's that you
> can't afford
> canned food. Cat's really aren't suited to live on high gluten corn
> meal or other starchy
> stuff:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carnivo...ate_carnivores
>
> --Bryan

Kitty subsists entirely on Purina Cat Chow, and is happy and healthy.
And it stinks like fish, so I'm quite sure it's chock full of animal
proteins. Feeding a cat anything fancier is just catering to your ego.
Purina has done lot of research on animal feeds and that's why there's
a "Purina X Chow" for so many different animals! Each food is tailored
to the nutritional needs of that particular animal.

Maybe you need some Purina Human Ego Chow, Bryan! ;-)


John Kuthe...

On Dec 1, 2:46*am, Andy > wrote:
> Once I had a huge humpbacked whale surface off a beach in Maui, HI.
>
> Without another human in sight, it gently surfaced about 100 ft off shore
> to have a look at me.
>
> I wanted to swim out and ride it.
>
> A kewl experience I'll never forget!!!
>
> Andy

Andy, I had a whale experience once while on a boat near Monterrey.
Every one else was down under partying away, it was raining. I wanted
to see whales. Went out and stood looking. A huge ( aren't they
all?" ) humpback began swimming deliberately toward me, I just stood
and watched, it stopped when close, raised up and Looked me in the
eye! What an amazing experience!

On Thu, 1 Dec 2011 08:37:43 -0800 (PST), rosie >
wrote:

>On Dec 1, 2:46*am, Andy > wrote:
>> Once I had a huge humpbacked whale surface off a beach in Maui, HI.
>>
>> Without another human in sight, it gently surfaced about 100 ft off shore
>> to have a look at me.
>>
>> I wanted to swim out and ride it.
>>
>> A kewl experience I'll never forget!!!
>>
>> Andy
>
>Andy, I had a whale experience once while on a boat near Monterrey.
>Every one else was down under partying away, it was raining. I wanted
>to see whales. Went out and stood looking. A huge ( aren't they
>all?" ) humpback began swimming deliberately toward me, I just stood
>and watched, it stopped when close, raised up and Looked me in the
>eye! What an amazing experience!

When my son was young he and I went swimming with manatee in
Clearwater Florida. Certainly not as big as a whale but they are
gentle and let you touch them. Being in the water with a bunch of
them swimming around you is very cool.

Lou

On Thu, 1 Dec 2011 08:43:04 -0500, "J. Clarke" >
wrote:

> That said, I'd say let it nurse until it's ready not to. I had a cat
> that I think was weaned too early. He sucked. I mean long after he was
> a full grown cat he would muckle onto you and give you cat hickeys if
> you didn't pay attention to what he was doing. The cat giving "kisses"
> was kind of cute but he'd keep going for hours if you let him.

Isn't being weaned too early also the reason why cats knead? I hate
it when they do that.

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

On Dec 1, 8:21*am, John Kuthe > wrote:
> On Dec 1, 8:08*am, Bryan > wrote:
> ...
>
> > There's no good reason to ever feed it kibble, unless it's that you
> > can't afford
> > canned food. *Cat's really aren't suited to live on high gluten corn
> > meal or other starchy stuff: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carnivo...ate_carnivores
>
> > --Bryan
>
> Kitty subsists entirely on Purina Cat Chow, and is happy and healthy.
> And it stinks like fish, so I'm quite sure it's chock full of animal
> proteins. Feeding a cat anything fancier is just catering to your ego.
> Purina has done lot of research on animal feeds and that's why there's
> a "Purina X Chow" for so many different animals! Each food is tailored
> to the nutritional needs of that particular animal.
>
> Maybe you need some Purina Human Ego Chow, Bryan! ;-)

You think you know a lot more than you actually do. Most cat's can
eat that starchy kibble, but if a cat starts to develop insulin
resistance, you should feed it what cats have evolved to eat, and a
normal diet for any feline species does not include a bunch of
carbohydrate. If your cat tolerates that Cat chow, which is primarily
corn, wheat and soy, OK, but it's not what cats are evolved to eat,
and it makes some pretty sick. Cat Chow is like McDonald's. Sure,
you can eat their food exclusively, but it's not the best choice for
one's health. Just like McDonald's, kibble is cheap and easy. The
pet food industry is no more trustworthy than discount stores like Wal
Mart and Target.
>
> John Kuthe...

--Bryan

On Dec 1, 4:14*pm, Bryan > wrote:
> On Dec 1, 3:51*pm, John Kuthe > wrote:
....
>
> > Carbs are evil! ;-)
>
> > OK Bryan! We get it.
>
> They are bad for cats. *They are fine for humans, or would be if we
> didn't have 365 days a year of feast and zero of famine, which is not
> natural. *People are meant to gain body fat in months of plenty, then
> lose body fat during the times of year that food, especially carbs,
> are scarce.

People are meant to? Implying a designing being much like us who had
intent for people? ;-)

People are omnivores. Scavengers when necessary.


> Do you deny that cats are carnivores, not omnivores?http://cats.about.com/od/catfoodfaqs...carnivores.htm
> Cats are no more suited to eat corn than guinea pigs are to eat meat.

Not at all. I live with a cat, and she has no interest in eating
anything but meat and fat. And she loves her Purina Cat Chow.

John Kuthe...

On Nov 30, 9:17*pm, Janet Wilder > wrote:
> We are fostering another kitten. Got this one a week ago. A fellow
> brought it to the shelter. It seems that mama cat had a litter on the
> roof of his house. She managed to get all the kittens down, but this
> little one fell off the roof. The fellow had 3 dogs who were hovering
> over the tiny kitten, so he rescued it and gave it to the mom who
> rejected it.

...

Late last spring, a litter of kittens was born in a corner of my
garage (crowded with junk and other stuff). I don't know why, but one
of them has been hanging out behind my house, living under the broad
eave behind a hibachi that I won't move. Mooch, my dog, is out there
frequently, without conflict. It didn't surprise me because I thought
that she ignored cats. The other day, I went out through a door I
rarely use and apparently frightened the now-nearly-full-grown beast.
The cat ran .. straight to Mooch, apparently for protection. It had
struck me as curious that Mooch would frequently go outside with a
mouthful of food. Now I wonder if she has been feeding her "pet".

Jerry
--
When ideas fail, words come in very handy.
-- Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

On 12/1/2011 2:33 AM, Andy wrote:
> I'd have your kitten eating out of my hand.
>
> Purina Kitten chow comes to mind.
>
> I'm an animal God from a past life, I think...
>
> Or the next door neighbor cats I cared for on occasion gifted me with an
> animal aura.
>
> Andy
>

I believe you missed the part about it now wanting any solid foods, even
a gruel consistency.

--
Janet Wilder
Way-the-heck-south Texas
Spelling doesn't count. Cooking does.

On 12/1/2011 12:22 AM, Paul M. Cook wrote:
> "Janet > wrote in message
> eb.com...
>> On 11/30/2011 9:53 PM, Paul M. Cook wrote:
>>> "Janet > wrote in message
>>> b.com...
>>>> We are fostering another kitten. Got this one a week ago. A fellow
>>>> brought
>>>> it to the shelter. It seems that mama cat had a litter on the roof of
>>>> his
>>>> house. She managed to get all the kittens down, but this little one fell
>>>> off the roof. The fellow had 3 dogs who were hovering over the tiny
>>>> kitten, so he rescued it and gave it to the mom who rejected it.
>>>>
>>>> He took it to the shelter on the day that DH volunteers there. DH called
>>>> me and I came to see it. Again, it was either foster it, or it goes over
>>>> the Rainbow Bridge, as it's too young for shots.
>>>>
>>>> I took it home last Wednesday. It weighed 8 ounces. Today it weighs
>>>> over
>>>> 11 ounces. It is starting to get some teeth.
>>>>
>>>> I have made it "gruel" from softened and mashed kitten kibble and canned
>>>> kitten food mixed with kitten formula. it is not interested in food
>>>> even
>>>> if we put it on our finger tips and try to feed it that way. All it
>>>> wants
>>>> to do is nurse.
>>>>
>>>> I would appreciate any suggestions as how to wean this little cat.
>>>
>>> They almost wean themselves. There are cat products availabe for all
>>> stages
>>> of a kittens life including KMR. I think mom cats start to wean their
>>> young
>>> at about 6 weeks of age. You can feed them human baby food so long as it
>>> is
>>> devoid of any onions. Onions are poison to cats. My sister has weaned
>>> many, many kittens and that is how she does it. Just wait until they
>>> show
>>> interest in the baby food and they'll start eating it on their own. Hard
>>> to
>>> find mouse baby food but chicken and turkey are good second choices. The
>>> more natural the better.
>>>
>>> Paul
>>>
>>>
>> Thanks for that idea. It doesn't seem to want anything to do with canned
>> kitten food.
>>
>
> Can he/she walk on its own yet?
>


He walks fine. He hops, he runs, he climbs and does all those cute
kitten things. (Definitely it's a he) He uses the litter box, too. He
just will not attempt to eat anything that is not liquid.

--
Janet Wilder
Way-the-heck-south Texas
Spelling doesn't count. Cooking does.

On 12/1/2011 8:08 AM, Bryan wrote:

> There's no good reason to ever feed it kibble, unless it's that you
> can't afford
> canned food. Cat's really aren't suited to live on high gluten corn
> meal or other starchy stuff:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carnivo...ate_carnivores
>


Bryan, we are not keeping the cat, we are just fostering it. Most people
who adopt animals from the Humane Society Shelter here are not well off.
They appreciate an animal that eats dry food.

Our Toy Poodle is on a special dry dog food that does not contain corn
and is not high in starch.


--
Janet Wilder
Way-the-heck-south Texas
Spelling doesn't count. Cooking does.

On 12/1/2011 10:23 AM, Storrmmee wrote:
> he is too young to wean, teeth aren't a true indicator, since he has grown
> so much, keep just nursing, you might put some food nearby and get him to
> taste it but as long as he is willingly nursing he needs to do so, one small
> tip, you can make the kmr a little stronger than stated to give extra
> calories, Lee


He seems to be thriving on the one past powder to two parts water. I'm
not messing with what's working. We try to leave the food experiments
for him, but the Poodle, the little thief, gloms it down.
--
Janet Wilder
Way-the-heck-south Texas
Spelling doesn't count. Cooking does.

On 12/1/2011 10:25 AM, Storrmmee wrote:
> i hit send too soon, at eight oz its likely he is only two/three weeks old,
> and mothers naturally wean between eight and twelve weeks, some people do
> and are successful around six weeks but i would wait until at least he is
> five weeks old, Lee


DH took him to visit at the shelter today. They sexed him. It's
definitely a him. Can't be too young if the sex is obvious.

He was 8 ounces when we got him the Day before Thanksgiving. He was
over 11 ounces at the last weigh, earlier this week.
--
Janet Wilder
Way-the-heck-south Texas
Spelling doesn't count. Cooking does.

On 12/1/2011 10:29 AM, Storrmmee wrote:
> only if he is peeing and pooping on his own, part of weaning/moving to more
> solid foods has to do with digestion/elimination, if you go too soon it
> might constipate him, Lee


He is peeing and pooping on his own and using the litter box every time.
--
Janet Wilder
Way-the-heck-south Texas
Spelling doesn't count. Cooking does.

"Janet Wilder" > wrote in message
b.com...
> On 12/1/2011 12:22 AM, Paul M. Cook wrote:
>> "Janet > wrote in message
>> eb.com...
>>> On 11/30/2011 9:53 PM, Paul M. Cook wrote:
>>>> "Janet > wrote in message
>>>> b.com...
>>>>> We are fostering another kitten. Got this one a week ago. A fellow
>>>>> brought
>>>>> it to the shelter. It seems that mama cat had a litter on the roof of
>>>>> his
>>>>> house. She managed to get all the kittens down, but this little one
>>>>> fell
>>>>> off the roof. The fellow had 3 dogs who were hovering over the tiny
>>>>> kitten, so he rescued it and gave it to the mom who rejected it.
>>>>>
>>>>> He took it to the shelter on the day that DH volunteers there. DH
>>>>> called
>>>>> me and I came to see it. Again, it was either foster it, or it goes
>>>>> over
>>>>> the Rainbow Bridge, as it's too young for shots.
>>>>>
>>>>> I took it home last Wednesday. It weighed 8 ounces. Today it weighs
>>>>> over
>>>>> 11 ounces. It is starting to get some teeth.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have made it "gruel" from softened and mashed kitten kibble and
>>>>> canned
>>>>> kitten food mixed with kitten formula. it is not interested in food
>>>>> even
>>>>> if we put it on our finger tips and try to feed it that way. All it
>>>>> wants
>>>>> to do is nurse.
>>>>>
>>>>> I would appreciate any suggestions as how to wean this little cat.
>>>>
>>>> They almost wean themselves. There are cat products availabe for all
>>>> stages
>>>> of a kittens life including KMR. I think mom cats start to wean their
>>>> young
>>>> at about 6 weeks of age. You can feed them human baby food so long as
>>>> it
>>>> is
>>>> devoid of any onions. Onions are poison to cats. My sister has weaned
>>>> many, many kittens and that is how she does it. Just wait until they
>>>> show
>>>> interest in the baby food and they'll start eating it on their own.
>>>> Hard
>>>> to
>>>> find mouse baby food but chicken and turkey are good second choices.
>>>> The
>>>> more natural the better.
>>>>
>>>> Paul
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Thanks for that idea. It doesn't seem to want anything to do with canned
>>> kitten food.
>>>
>>
>> Can he/she walk on its own yet?
>>
>
>
> He walks fine. He hops, he runs, he climbs and does all those cute kitten
> things. (Definitely it's a he) He uses the litter box, too. He just will
> not attempt to eat anything that is not liquid.

I'd try the baby food warmed up so it really gets his attention. Sounds
like he is 5-6 weeks. He's about ready - just a little more time.

Paul


> --
> Janet Wilder
> Way-the-heck-south Texas
> Spelling doesn't count. Cooking does.

On 12/1/2011 2:46 AM, Andy wrote:
> Once I had a huge humpbacked whale surface off a beach in Maui, HI.
>
> Without another human in sight, it gently surfaced about 100 ft off shore
> to have a look at me.
>
> I wanted to swim out and ride it.
>
> A kewl experience I'll never forget!!!
>
> Andy


We were in a Zodiac in Lunenburg Bay, Nova Scotia and we saw this huge
whale breach not 100 yards away. I was so scared that it would get under
the raft and breach while we were in it.

--
Janet Wilder
Way-the-heck-south Texas
Spelling doesn't count. Cooking does.

"J. Clarke" > wrote in message
in.local...
> In article m>,
> says...
>>
>> We are fostering another kitten. Got this one a week ago. A fellow
>> brought it to the shelter. It seems that mama cat had a litter on the
>> roof of his house. She managed to get all the kittens down, but this
>> little one fell off the roof. The fellow had 3 dogs who were hovering
>> over the tiny kitten, so he rescued it and gave it to the mom who
>> rejected it.
>>
>> He took it to the shelter on the day that DH volunteers there. DH called
>> me and I came to see it. Again, it was either foster it, or it goes over
>> the Rainbow Bridge, as it's too young for shots.
>>
>> I took it home last Wednesday. It weighed 8 ounces. Today it weighs
>> over 11 ounces. It is starting to get some teeth.
>>
>> I have made it "gruel" from softened and mashed kitten kibble and canned
>> kitten food mixed with kitten formula. it is not interested in food
>> even if we put it on our finger tips and try to feed it that way. All
>> it wants to do is nurse.
>>
>> I would appreciate any suggestions as how to wean this little cat.
>
> I hate to tell you this but you probably have forgotten more about the
> raising of kittens than the rest of us are ever going to know.
>
> That said, I'd say let it nurse until it's ready not to. I had a cat
> that I think was weaned too early. He sucked. I mean long after he was
> a full grown cat he would muckle onto you and give you cat hickeys if
> you didn't pay attention to what he was doing. The cat giving "kisses"
> was kind of cute but he'd keep going for hours if you let him.
>

I did too. He'd suck on your earlobes all day if you let him.

Paul

On Dec 1, 4:34*pm, John Kuthe > wrote:
> On Dec 1, 4:14*pm, Bryan > wrote:
>
> > On Dec 1, 3:51*pm, John Kuthe > wrote:
> ...
>
> > > Carbs are evil! ;-)
>
> > > OK Bryan! We get it.
>
> > They are bad for cats. *They are fine for humans, or would be if we
> > didn't have 365 days a year of feast and zero of famine, which is not
> > natural. *People are meant to gain body fat in months of plenty, then
> > lose body fat during the times of year that food, especially carbs,
> > are scarce.
>
> People are meant to? Implying a designing being much like us who had
> intent for people? ;-)

Sub "evolved to" for meant to.
>
> People are omnivores. Scavengers when necessary.
>
> > Do you deny that cats are carnivores, not omnivores?http://cats.about.com/od/catfoodfaqs...carnivores.htm
> > Cats are no more suited to eat corn than guinea pigs are to eat meat.
>
> Not at all. I live with a cat, and she has no interest in eating
> anything but meat and fat. And she loves her Purina Cat Chow.

Which is mostly corn/wheat/soy.
>
> John Kuthe...

--Bryan

On Dec 1, 5:04*pm, Bryan > wrote:
> On Dec 1, 4:34*pm, John Kuthe > wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Dec 1, 4:14*pm, Bryan > wrote:
>
> > > On Dec 1, 3:51*pm, John Kuthe > wrote:
> > ...
>
> > > > Carbs are evil! ;-)
>
> > > > OK Bryan! We get it.
>
> > > They are bad for cats. *They are fine for humans, or would be if we
> > > didn't have 365 days a year of feast and zero of famine, which is not
> > > natural. *People are meant to gain body fat in months of plenty, then
> > > lose body fat during the times of year that food, especially carbs,
> > > are scarce.
>
> > People are meant to? Implying a designing being much like us who had
> > intent for people? ;-)
>
> Sub "evolved to" for meant to.

Better words! :-)

....
> > Not at all. I live with a cat, and she has no interest in eating
> > anything but meat and fat. And she loves her Purina Cat Chow.
>
> Which is mostly corn/wheat/soy.

She's loving it and healthy and happy. And it's cheaper than the
Purina One she was eating before.

John Kuthe...

janet, my cat TV was developmentally disabled, he took longer to learn to
eat, he was at least two weeks behind his sister, and he never did learn to
drink properly by lapping until into his adulthood, and until his death if
he were really thirsty he would suck the water rather than lap. Lee
"Janet Wilder" > wrote in message
b.com...
> On 12/1/2011 12:22 AM, Paul M. Cook wrote:
>> "Janet > wrote in message
>> eb.com...
>>> On 11/30/2011 9:53 PM, Paul M. Cook wrote:
>>>> "Janet > wrote in message
>>>> b.com...
>>>>> We are fostering another kitten. Got this one a week ago. A fellow
>>>>> brought
>>>>> it to the shelter. It seems that mama cat had a litter on the roof of
>>>>> his
>>>>> house. She managed to get all the kittens down, but this little one
>>>>> fell
>>>>> off the roof. The fellow had 3 dogs who were hovering over the tiny
>>>>> kitten, so he rescued it and gave it to the mom who rejected it.
>>>>>
>>>>> He took it to the shelter on the day that DH volunteers there. DH
>>>>> called
>>>>> me and I came to see it. Again, it was either foster it, or it goes
>>>>> over
>>>>> the Rainbow Bridge, as it's too young for shots.
>>>>>
>>>>> I took it home last Wednesday. It weighed 8 ounces. Today it weighs
>>>>> over
>>>>> 11 ounces. It is starting to get some teeth.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have made it "gruel" from softened and mashed kitten kibble and
>>>>> canned
>>>>> kitten food mixed with kitten formula. it is not interested in food
>>>>> even
>>>>> if we put it on our finger tips and try to feed it that way. All it
>>>>> wants
>>>>> to do is nurse.
>>>>>
>>>>> I would appreciate any suggestions as how to wean this little cat.
>>>>
>>>> They almost wean themselves. There are cat products availabe for all
>>>> stages
>>>> of a kittens life including KMR. I think mom cats start to wean their
>>>> young
>>>> at about 6 weeks of age. You can feed them human baby food so long as
>>>> it
>>>> is
>>>> devoid of any onions. Onions are poison to cats. My sister has weaned
>>>> many, many kittens and that is how she does it. Just wait until they
>>>> show
>>>> interest in the baby food and they'll start eating it on their own.
>>>> Hard
>>>> to
>>>> find mouse baby food but chicken and turkey are good second choices.
>>>> The
>>>> more natural the better.
>>>>
>>>> Paul
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Thanks for that idea. It doesn't seem to want anything to do with canned
>>> kitten food.
>>>
>>
>> Can he/she walk on its own yet?
>>
>
>
> He walks fine. He hops, he runs, he climbs and does all those cute kitten
> things. (Definitely it's a he) He uses the litter box, too. He just will
> not attempt to eat anything that is not liquid.
>
> --
> Janet Wilder
> Way-the-heck-south Texas
> Spelling doesn't count. Cooking does.

and iirc he trotted out all of this propaganda the last kitten you had,
seems since he has nothing of value to contribute he insists on being a
schill for the priceir cat foods, wonder if he has stock or is really that
stupid? Lee
"Janet Wilder" > wrote in message
b.com...
> On 12/1/2011 8:08 AM, Bryan wrote:
>
>> There's no good reason to ever feed it kibble, unless it's that you
>> can't afford
>> canned food. Cat's really aren't suited to live on high gluten corn
>> meal or other starchy stuff:
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carnivo...ate_carnivores
>>
>
>
> Bryan, we are not keeping the cat, we are just fostering it. Most people
> who adopt animals from the Humane Society Shelter here are not well off.
> They appreciate an animal that eats dry food.
>
> Our Toy Poodle is on a special dry dog food that does not contain corn and
> is not high in starch.
>
>
> --
> Janet Wilder
> Way-the-heck-south Texas
> Spelling doesn't count. Cooking does.

lol, no wonder he likes you fostering, but then nothing wrong with
enlightened self interest, lol, Lee
"Janet Wilder" > wrote in message
b.com...
> On 12/1/2011 10:23 AM, Storrmmee wrote:
>> he is too young to wean, teeth aren't a true indicator, since he has
>> grown
>> so much, keep just nursing, you might put some food nearby and get him to
>> taste it but as long as he is willingly nursing he needs to do so, one
>> small
>> tip, you can make the kmr a little stronger than stated to give extra
>> calories, Lee
>
>
> He seems to be thriving on the one past powder to two parts water. I'm
> not messing with what's working. We try to leave the food experiments for
> him, but the Poodle, the little thief, gloms it down.
> --
> Janet Wilder
> Way-the-heck-south Texas
> Spelling doesn't count. Cooking does.

sexing is very easy for anyone with experience, my vet has accurately sexed
kittens at two weeks, don't know about earlier than that as i haven't dealt
with any vet visits sooner than that, Lee
"Janet Wilder" > wrote in message
b.com...
> On 12/1/2011 10:25 AM, Storrmmee wrote:
>> i hit send too soon, at eight oz its likely he is only two/three weeks
>> old,
>> and mothers naturally wean between eight and twelve weeks, some people do
>> and are successful around six weeks but i would wait until at least he is
>> five weeks old, Lee
>
>
> DH took him to visit at the shelter today. They sexed him. It's
> definitely a him. Can't be too young if the sex is obvious.
>
> He was 8 ounces when we got him the Day before Thanksgiving. He was over
> 11 ounces at the last weigh, earlier this week.
> --
> Janet Wilder
> Way-the-heck-south Texas
> Spelling doesn't count. Cooking does.

that is a good sign, if we assume he is in fact say four weeks old then we
can also assume he is underweight, so bottlee feeding is right as he needs
the calories to catch up, when storrmmee came to us she was nine ounces and
only three weeks old, she got her feedings on demand, and it took a week for
the first ounce to get on, after tht it was faster, but she wanted her
bottle until she was about seven weeks old, then she saw dh feeding canned
to one of the other cats got jealous and began weaning herself, Lee
"Janet Wilder" > wrote in message
b.com...
> On 12/1/2011 10:29 AM, Storrmmee wrote:
>> only if he is peeing and pooping on his own, part of weaning/moving to
>> more
>> solid foods has to do with digestion/elimination, if you go too soon it
>> might constipate him, Lee
>
>
> He is peeing and pooping on his own and using the litter box every time.
> --
> Janet Wilder
> Way-the-heck-south Texas
> Spelling doesn't count. Cooking does.

On Dec 1, 5:10*pm, John Kuthe > wrote:
> On Dec 1, 5:04*pm, Bryan > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Dec 1, 4:34*pm, John Kuthe > wrote:
>
> > > On Dec 1, 4:14*pm, Bryan > wrote:
>
> > > > On Dec 1, 3:51*pm, John Kuthe > wrote:
> > > ...
>
> > > > > Carbs are evil! ;-)
>
> > > > > OK Bryan! We get it.
>
> > > > They are bad for cats. *They are fine for humans, or would be if we
> > > > didn't have 365 days a year of feast and zero of famine, which is not
> > > > natural. *People are meant to gain body fat in months of plenty, then
> > > > lose body fat during the times of year that food, especially carbs,
> > > > are scarce.
>
> > > People are meant to? Implying a designing being much like us who had
> > > intent for people? ;-)
>
> > Sub "evolved to" for meant to.
>
> Better words! :-)
>
> ...
>
> > > Not at all. I live with a cat, and she has no interest in eating
> > > anything but meat and fat. And she loves her Purina Cat Chow.
>
> > Which is mostly corn/wheat/soy.
>
> She's loving it and healthy and happy. And it's cheaper than the
> Purina One she was eating before.

Cheap and filling. Like McDonald's. I have found a new vet for
Gigi.
http://www.animalhealthandhealing.com/
They don't whore for Science Diet.
What's nice is that I've found dry food that we can give her when
we're on vacation. It's awfully expensive, but considering that we
pay a kid to come over and feed/water/pet her every day, the $28 will
just be part of the cost of the vacation. I do wish it came in a
smaller size though (6.6# is the smallest).
>
> John Kuthe...

--Bryan

On Dec 1, 5:34*pm, Bryan > wrote:
....
>
> Cheap and filling. *Like McDonald's. *I have found a new vet for
> Gigi.http://www.animalhealthandhealing.com/
> They don't whore for Science Diet.
> What's nice is that I've found dry food that we can give her when
> we're on vacation. *It's awfully expensive, but considering that we
> pay a kid to come over and feed/water/pet her every day, the $28 will
> just be part of the cost of the vacation. *I do wish it came in a
> smaller size though (6.6# is the smallest).
>
>
>
> > John Kuthe...
>
> --Bryan

Cater to your ego all you want. It's just a cat. As long as they are
well fed and watered regularly, provided a safe comfortable dry place
to live and given attention when they demand, they are the luckiest
cats in the world.

John Kuthe...

On Dec 1, 5:20*pm, "Storrmmee" > wrote:
> this is so silly given his choice my cat Tiger, rb would eat corn/pumpkin
> muffins to the exclsion of all else, to discuss the general biology of an
> animal is one thing but to make everything set in stone is just so telling
> of a lack of education on cats and their adaptability... one of my cats, now
> also rb loved cantalope and oranges, most every other cat i know will give
> you the look of death when you offer it anything citrus,

Given his choice, my son would almost always prefer candy.

> Lee

--Bryan

On Dec 1, 5:40*pm, John Kuthe > wrote:
> On Dec 1, 5:34*pm, Bryan > wrote:
> ...
>
>
>
> > Cheap and filling. *Like McDonald's. *I have found a new vet for
> > Gigi.http://www.animalhealthandhealing.com/
> > They don't whore for Science Diet.
> > What's nice is that I've found dry food that we can give her when
> > we're on vacation. *It's awfully expensive, but considering that we
> > pay a kid to come over and feed/water/pet her every day, the $28 will
> > just be part of the cost of the vacation. *I do wish it came in a
> > smaller size though (6.6# is the smallest).
>
> > > John Kuthe...
>
> > --Bryan
>
> Cater to your ego all you want. It's just a cat. As long as they are
> well fed and watered regularly, provided a safe comfortable dry place
> to live and given attention when they demand, they are the luckiest
> cats in the world.

My cat was sick, John. It's not about ego. I had one cat die
prematurely from diabetes, one I liked a heck of a lot more than the
current one. I was having to give Abigail insulin shots. Now I know
that if I'd taken her off of the dry food, she would have needed
little or no insulin. Instead, I listened to my vet, a whore for
Science Diet. When I took Gigi off of the dry food, she became no
longer sick. No more drinking almost a freakin' PINT of water a day.
>
> John Kuthe...

--Bryan