Since my wife got home, people have been bringing her stuff, and one
person brought her a rosemary Christmas tree. I'd like to make that a
new tradition. I love fresh rosemary. After Christmas season, one
can eat his or her tree. Very green.

--Bryan

Bryan wrote:
>
> Since my wife got home, people have been bringing her stuff, and one
> person brought her a rosemary Christmas tree. I'd like to make that a
> new tradition. I love fresh rosemary. After Christmas season, one
> can eat his or her tree. Very green.

What? :-O Am I the only one here that finds this a bit disturbing?

Gary

On Dec 3, 11:14*am, Gary > wrote:
> Bryan wrote:
>
> > Since my wife got home, people have been bringing her stuff, and one
> > person brought her a rosemary Christmas tree. *I'd like to make that a
> > new tradition. *I love fresh rosemary. *After Christmas season, one
> > can eat his or her tree. *Very green.
>
> What? *:-O * Am I the only one here that finds this a bit disturbing?

Probably. I don't know what could be "disturbing" about a 15" tall
rosemary plant that's in an 8" pot, cut into Christmas tree shape with
a little gold bow on top, that someone bought for $10.99 at Trader
Joe's. Perhaps you're just easily disturbed.
>
> Gary

--Bryan

"Bryan" > wrote in message
...
On Dec 3, 11:14 am, Gary > wrote:
> Bryan wrote:
>
> > Since my wife got home, people have been bringing her stuff, and one
> > person brought her a rosemary Christmas tree. I'd like to make that a
> > new tradition. I love fresh rosemary. After Christmas season, one
> > can eat his or her tree. Very green.
>
> What? :-O Am I the only one here that finds this a bit disturbing?

Probably. I don't know what could be "disturbing" about a 15" tall
rosemary plant that's in an 8" pot, cut into Christmas tree shape with
a little gold bow on top, that someone bought for $10.99 at Trader
Joe's. Perhaps you're just easily disturbed.
========

I took the disturbing part as a joke with the "one can eat his or her
tree." I could be wrong.

Cheri

Cheri wrote:

>>> Since my wife got home, people have been bringing her stuff, and one
>>> person brought her a rosemary Christmas tree. I'd like to make that a
>>> new tradition. I love fresh rosemary. After Christmas season, one
>>> can eat his or her tree. Very green.
>>
>> What? :-O Am I the only one here that finds this a bit disturbing?
>
> Probably. I don't know what could be "disturbing" about a 15" tall
> rosemary plant that's in an 8" pot, cut into Christmas tree shape with
> a little gold bow on top, that someone bought for $10.99 at Trader
> Joe's. Perhaps you're just easily disturbed.
> ========
>
> I took the disturbing part as a joke with the "one can eat his or her
> tree." I could be wrong.

http://eater.com/archives/2010/12/27...stmas-tree.php

I did in fact make a fir-infused vinegar last year, using it in a forcemeat
stuffing for roasted red peppers on New Year's eve. The vinegar was very
strongly flavored, so a little goes a long way.

Bob

Cheri wrote:
>
> "Bryan" > wrote in message
> ...
> On Dec 3, 11:14 am, Gary > wrote:
> > Bryan wrote:
> >
> > > Since my wife got home, people have been bringing her stuff, and one
> > > person brought her a rosemary Christmas tree. I'd like to make that a
> > > new tradition. I love fresh rosemary. After Christmas season, one
> > > can eat his or her tree. Very green.
> >
> > What? :-O Am I the only one here that finds this a bit disturbing?
>
> Probably. I don't know what could be "disturbing" about a 15" tall
> rosemary plant that's in an 8" pot, cut into Christmas tree shape with
> a little gold bow on top, that someone bought for $10.99 at Trader
> Joe's. Perhaps you're just easily disturbed.
> ========
>
> I took the disturbing part as a joke with the "one can eat his or her
> tree." I could be wrong.
>
> Cheri

You got it, Cheri. I *was* kidding.

I tend to tease and joke people often with a straight face and my daughter
often yells at me for doing that....

Her: "Dad, you can't say that to people. They don't know you're kidding."

So anyway, the rosemary tree thing is nice.
I wish someone would give me a basil tree. I'd like that one better. :-D

On Dec 4, 7:09*am, Gary > wrote:
> Cheri wrote:
>
> > "Bryan" > wrote in message
> ....
> > On Dec 3, 11:14 am, Gary > wrote:
> > > Bryan wrote:
>
> > > > Since my wife got home, people have been bringing her stuff, and one
> > > > person brought her a rosemary Christmas tree. I'd like to make that a
> > > > new tradition. I love fresh rosemary. After Christmas season, one
> > > > can eat his or her tree. Very green.
>
> > > What? :-O Am I the only one here that finds this a bit disturbing?
....
>
> You got it, Cheri. *I *was* kidding.
>
> I tend to tease and joke people often with a straight face and my daughter
> often yells at me for doing that....
>
> Her: "Dad, you can't say that to people. They don't know you're kidding."
>
> So anyway, the rosemary tree thing is nice.
> I wish someone would give me a basil tree. *I'd like that one better. *:-D

Dude, you are *really* reaching with that one! I'll bet you're a big
fan of "that's what she said"s too! ;-)

I agree about the basil thing though. Fresh basil is a beautiful
thing. Something ate all my basil seedlings last year and I was so
****ed! :-( No fresh basil for me! I could make a salad out of fresh
basil.

John Kuthe...

On Sun, 04 Dec 2011 08:09:37 -0500, Gary > wrote:



>I tend to tease and joke people often with a straight face and my daughter
>often yells at me for doing that....
>
>Her: "Dad, you can't say that to people. They don't know you're kidding."

I never let it stop me though. I've said some truly absurd things
with a straight face and some people will believe it.

Gary > wrote:

-snip-
>So anyway, the rosemary tree thing is nice.
>I wish someone would give me a basil tree. I'd like that one better. :-D

I've found basil a lot easier to care for than rosemary. Lots of
light- [a south facing window, and a fluorescent light to 'keep the
days long']- water when it droops & water deep. 60-80F should do
it-- I've kept one going in a 12" pot for the winter & used lots of
basil along the way.

I've kept a rosemary over a winter, too-- but it was an unhealthy
looking thing by spring & died over the summer.

Jim

On 12/4/2011 6:09 AM, Gary wrote:

>
> So anyway, the rosemary tree thing is nice.
> I wish someone would give me a basil tree. I'd like that one better. :-D


Unfortunately they are two of the few plants I can't keep alive indoors.
I either under-water or over-water which makes me think they are very
picky about conditions.

Daughter had the same problem when she first moved to CA years ago, She
tried planting her small rosemary plant outdoors and within a year or
two it had turned into a very large shrub almost 4 ft. across, and
covered with tiny blue flowers. That year she made everyone rosemary
wreaths for the kitchen as part of their Christmas gifts.

I wish I had that option but right now it's about 6 degrees F outdoors
and I don't think tender Mediterranean herbs would like that.

gloria p

Gary wrote:
> Bryan wrote:
>>
>> Since my wife got home, people have been bringing her stuff, and one
>> person brought her a rosemary Christmas tree. I'd like to make that
>> a new tradition. I love fresh rosemary. After Christmas season, one
>> can eat his or her tree. Very green.
>
> What? :-O Am I the only one here that finds this a bit disturbing?
>
> Gary

Probably. Depending on where you live, you can plant the rosemary tree
outside and have fresh rosemary all year. I don't see the problem that you
see.

"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> Bryan wrote:
>>
>> Since my wife got home, people have been bringing her stuff, and one
>> person brought her a rosemary Christmas tree. I'd like to make that a
>> new tradition. I love fresh rosemary. After Christmas season, one
>> can eat his or her tree. Very green.
>
> What? :-O Am I the only one here that finds this a bit disturbing?


Eull Gibbons had no isssues with it.

Paul

On Dec 3, 12:11*pm, "Paul M. Cook" > wrote:
> "Gary" > wrote in ....
> > Bryan wrote:
>
> >> Since my wife got home, people have been bringing her stuff, and one
> >> person brought her a rosemary Christmas tree. *I'd like to make that a
> >> new tradition. *I love fresh rosemary. *After Christmas season, one
> >> can eat his or her tree. *Very green.
>
> > What? *:-O * Am I the only one here that finds this a bit disturbing?
>
> Eull Gibbons had no isssues with it.
>
> Paul

Ever eat a pine tree?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XJMIu18I8Y

John Kuthe...

"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> Bryan wrote:
>>
>> Since my wife got home, people have been bringing her stuff, and one
>> person brought her a rosemary Christmas tree. I'd like to make that a
>> new tradition. I love fresh rosemary. After Christmas season, one
>> can eat his or her tree. Very green.
>
> What? :-O Am I the only one here that finds this a bit disturbing?
>
> Gary


I don't find it disturbing. What's wrong with a rosemary bush?

I like fresh rosemary on grilled lamb or veal. It's no different from
growing any other herb.

Jill

On Sat, 3 Dec 2011 17:16:27 -0500, "jmcquown" >
wrote:

>
> "Gary" > wrote in message ...
> > Bryan wrote:
> >>
> >> Since my wife got home, people have been bringing her stuff, and one
> >> person brought her a rosemary Christmas tree. I'd like to make that a
> >> new tradition. I love fresh rosemary. After Christmas season, one
> >> can eat his or her tree. Very green.
> >
> > What? :-O Am I the only one here that finds this a bit disturbing?
> >
> > Gary
>
>
> I don't find it disturbing. What's wrong with a rosemary bush?
>
Either he's kidding or he has no idea what he's talking about.

> I like fresh rosemary on grilled lamb or veal. It's no different from
> growing any other herb.
>


--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

On Dec 3, 9:36*pm, Sqwertz > wrote:
> On Sat, 03 Dec 2011 12:14:50 -0500, Gary wrote:
> > Bryan wrote:
>
> >> Since my wife got home, people have been bringing her stuff, and one
> >> person brought her a rosemary Christmas tree. *I'd like to make that a
> >> new tradition. *I love fresh rosemary. *After Christmas season, one
> >> can eat his or her tree. *Very green.
>
> > What? *:-O * Am I the only one here that finds this a bit disturbing?
>
> Nobody tell him. *Let him find out on his own that's a
> decorative/landscaping rosemary and not a culinary rosemary.

Thank you, Steve, but if that don't suck. I'm still going to see if
it has decent flavor, but there's no question that the leaves are
thinner and less delicate looking that the rosemaries we grow. At
least we didn't pay for the f-ing thing.
>
> -sw

--Bryan

On Sat, 3 Dec 2011 20:43:28 -0800 (PST), Bryan
> wrote:

>On Dec 3, 9:36*pm, Sqwertz > wrote:
>> On Sat, 03 Dec 2011 12:14:50 -0500, Gary wrote:
>> > Bryan wrote:
>>
>> >> Since my wife got home, people have been bringing her stuff, and one
>> >> person brought her a rosemary Christmas tree. *I'd like to make that a
>> >> new tradition. *I love fresh rosemary. *After Christmas season, one
>> >> can eat his or her tree. *Very green.
>>
>> > What? *:-O * Am I the only one here that finds this a bit disturbing?
>>
>> Nobody tell him. *Let him find out on his own that's a
>> decorative/landscaping rosemary and not a culinary rosemary.
>
>Thank you, Steve, but if that don't suck. I'm still going to see if
>it has decent flavor, but there's no question that the leaves are
>thinner and less delicate looking that the rosemaries we grow. At
>least we didn't pay for the f-ing thing.

It's essentially the same plant... there exist hybridized rosemary
(different growing habits) but they'd flavor the same. I don't
particularly care for rosemary, makes the dish smell like Pinesol. The
Greeks make the only wine I can't drink... retsina... they cook with
it too, it's awful, like how I imagine toilet bowl cleaner tastes.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retsina

Sqwertz wrote:
>
> On Sat, 03 Dec 2011 12:14:50 -0500, Gary wrote:
>
> > Bryan wrote:
> >>
> >> Since my wife got home, people have been bringing her stuff, and one
> >> person brought her a rosemary Christmas tree. I'd like to make that a
> >> new tradition. I love fresh rosemary. After Christmas season, one
> >> can eat his or her tree. Very green.
> >
> > What? :-O Am I the only one here that finds this a bit disturbing?
>
> Nobody tell him. Let him find out on his own that's a
> decorative/landscaping rosemary and not a culinary rosemary.
>
> -sw

There's a difference? :-O

Years ago, we went on a surfing trip to Cape Hatteras, NC. On the way, I
kept seeing bay leaf bushes. I made them stop while I collected lots of
wild bay leaves. They though I was wrong but I was right. Real bay leaves
for free!

Gary

Sqwertz wrote:
> Gary wrote:
>> Sqwertz wrote:
>>
>>> Nobody tell him. Let him find out on his own that's a
>>> decorative/landscaping rosemary and not a culinary rosemary.
>>
>> There's a difference? :-O
>
> Yes, there are 5 or 6 different kinds of rosemary. Only one of which
> is considered culinarily acceptable by those in the know.

In So Cal they plant rosemary along the freeways. The stuff grows into
huge bushes. They feed them nothing but the occasional wrecked car.
;^) I've stopped and tasted the sprigs. Very little flavor but what
flavor there was was normal rosemary flavor. Landscaping rosemary
probably lacks flavor because of how it's treated.

Here in Chicago metro we've tried to get rosemary bushes to survive the
winter. So far no luck even the ones we've kept inside. I think it
needs longer days than we get during the winter.

Basil grows here like crazy but it's an annual.

nobody has posted anything proving there is such a thing as rosmary that
excludes cooking, sorry they are ALL edible and thre more than six
acceptable kinds, Lee
"Doug Freyburger" > wrote in message
...
> Sqwertz wrote:
>> Gary wrote:
>>> Sqwertz wrote:
>>>
>>>> Nobody tell him. Let him find out on his own that's a
>>>> decorative/landscaping rosemary and not a culinary rosemary.
>>>
>>> There's a difference? :-O
>>
>> Yes, there are 5 or 6 different kinds of rosemary. Only one of which
>> is considered culinarily acceptable by those in the know.
>
> In So Cal they plant rosemary along the freeways. The stuff grows into
> huge bushes. They feed them nothing but the occasional wrecked car.
> ;^) I've stopped and tasted the sprigs. Very little flavor but what
> flavor there was was normal rosemary flavor. Landscaping rosemary
> probably lacks flavor because of how it's treated.
>
> Here in Chicago metro we've tried to get rosemary bushes to survive the
> winter. So far no luck even the ones we've kept inside. I think it
> needs longer days than we get during the winter.
>
> Basil grows here like crazy but it's an annual.

On Dec 5, 6:00*pm, "Storrmmee" > wrote:
> nobody has posted anything proving there is such a thing as rosmary that
> excludes cooking, sorry they are ALL edible and thre more than six
> acceptable kinds, Lee"Doug Freyburger" > wrote in message
>
> ...
>
>
>
> > Sqwertz wrote:
> >> Gary wrote:
> >>> Sqwertz wrote:
>
> >>>> Nobody tell him. *Let him find out on his own that's a
> >>>> decorative/landscaping rosemary and not a culinary rosemary.
>
> >>> There's a difference? *:-O
>
> >> Yes, there are 5 or 6 different kinds of rosemary. Only one of which
> >> is considered culinarily acceptable by those in the know.
>
> > In So Cal they plant rosemary along the freeways. *The stuff grows into
> > huge bushes. *They feed them nothing but the occasional wrecked car.
> > ;^) *I've stopped and tasted the sprigs. *Very little flavor but what
> > flavor there was was normal rosemary flavor. *Landscaping rosemary
> > probably lacks flavor because of how it's treated.
>
> > Here in Chicago metro we've tried to get rosemary bushes to survive the
> > winter. *So far no luck even the ones we've kept inside. *I think it
> > needs longer days than we get during the winter.
>
> > Basil grows here like crazy but it's an annual.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Useless ****.

On Sat, 3 Dec 2011 21:36:33 -0600, Sqwertz >
wrote:

>On Sat, 03 Dec 2011 12:14:50 -0500, Gary wrote:
>
>> Bryan wrote:
>>>
>>> Since my wife got home, people have been bringing her stuff, and one
>>> person brought her a rosemary Christmas tree. I'd like to make that a
>>> new tradition. I love fresh rosemary. After Christmas season, one
>>> can eat his or her tree. Very green.
>>
>> What? :-O Am I the only one here that finds this a bit disturbing?
>
>Nobody tell him. Let him find out on his own that's a
>decorative/landscaping rosemary and not a culinary rosemary.
>
>-sw
I'm not familiar with a rosemary that isn't culinary. I would like to
know more, cite?
Janet US

On Dec 4, 9:17*am, Janet Bostwick > wrote:
> On Sat, 3 Dec 2011 21:36:33 -0600, Sqwertz >
> wrote:
>
> >On Sat, 03 Dec 2011 12:14:50 -0500, Gary wrote:
>
> >> Bryan wrote:
>
> >>> Since my wife got home, people have been bringing her stuff, and one
> >>> person brought her a rosemary Christmas tree. *I'd like to make that a
> >>> new tradition. *I love fresh rosemary. *After Christmas season, one
> >>> can eat his or her tree. *Very green.
>
> >> What? *:-O * Am I the only one here that finds this a bit disturbing?
>
> >Nobody tell him. *Let him find out on his own that's a
> >decorative/landscaping rosemary and not a culinary rosemary.
>
> >-sw
>
> I'm not familiar with a rosemary that isn't culinary. *I would like to
> know more, *cite?
> Janet US

I did a quick Google search on "rosemary spice" after I read this.
Turned up among other hits a Wikipedia page on rosemary which didn't
say anything about there being two different varietals of rosemary.
Methinks sw was just attempting to yank Bryan's chain.

John Kuthe...

On Mon, 5 Dec 2011 08:02:02 -0600, Sqwertz >
wrote:

>On Sun, 04 Dec 2011 08:17:53 -0700, Janet Bostwick wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 3 Dec 2011 21:36:33 -0600, Sqwertz >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>On Sat, 03 Dec 2011 12:14:50 -0500, Gary wrote:
>>>
>>>> Bryan wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Since my wife got home, people have been bringing her stuff, and one
>>>>> person brought her a rosemary Christmas tree. I'd like to make that a
>>>>> new tradition. I love fresh rosemary. After Christmas season, one
>>>>> can eat his or her tree. Very green.
>>>>
>>>> What? :-O Am I the only one here that finds this a bit disturbing?
>>>
>>>Nobody tell him. Let him find out on his own that's a
>>>decorative/landscaping rosemary and not a culinary rosemary.
>>>
>>>-sw
>> I'm not familiar with a rosemary that isn't culinary. I would like to
>> know more, cite?
>
>OK, I'll look it up for you <sigh>
>
>http://voices.yahoo.com/which-variet...43.html?cat=32
>
>Tuscan blue is the most widely used rosemary. It is the only kind I
>have seen grown and sold for cooking.
>
>-sw

Oh, pooh! "many top chefs" use it? Any one of the seed/plant
catalogs I have show a dozen or more varieties of rosemary for cooking
-- yes Tuscan Blue is there. My local nursery carries a dozen or
more. The jars of dried stuff and the packages of fresh stuff at the
grocers do not label the variety. It's like basil, you choose the
varieties that suit your cuisine/palate the best. You did know that
there are many kinds of basil available for cooking around the world?

Janet US

and even if one is preferred i still havent seen anything that says there is
an unedible variety, Lee
"Janet Bostwick" > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 5 Dec 2011 08:02:02 -0600, Sqwertz >
> wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 04 Dec 2011 08:17:53 -0700, Janet Bostwick wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, 3 Dec 2011 21:36:33 -0600, Sqwertz >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Sat, 03 Dec 2011 12:14:50 -0500, Gary wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Bryan wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Since my wife got home, people have been bringing her stuff, and one
>>>>>> person brought her a rosemary Christmas tree. I'd like to make that
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> new tradition. I love fresh rosemary. After Christmas season, one
>>>>>> can eat his or her tree. Very green.
>>>>>
>>>>> What? :-O Am I the only one here that finds this a bit disturbing?
>>>>
>>>>Nobody tell him. Let him find out on his own that's a
>>>>decorative/landscaping rosemary and not a culinary rosemary.
>>>>
>>>>-sw
>>> I'm not familiar with a rosemary that isn't culinary. I would like to
>>> know more, cite?
>>
>>OK, I'll look it up for you <sigh>
>>
>>http://voices.yahoo.com/which-variet...43.html?cat=32
>>
>>Tuscan blue is the most widely used rosemary. It is the only kind I
>>have seen grown and sold for cooking.
>>
>>-sw
>
> Oh, pooh! "many top chefs" use it? Any one of the seed/plant
> catalogs I have show a dozen or more varieties of rosemary for cooking
> -- yes Tuscan Blue is there. My local nursery carries a dozen or
> more. The jars of dried stuff and the packages of fresh stuff at the
> grocers do not label the variety. It's like basil, you choose the
> varieties that suit your cuisine/palate the best. You did know that
> there are many kinds of basil available for cooking around the world?
>
> Janet US

On Mon, 05 Dec 2011 08:17:34 -0700, Janet Bostwick
> wrote:

> On Mon, 5 Dec 2011 08:02:02 -0600, Sqwertz >
> wrote:
>
> >On Sun, 04 Dec 2011 08:17:53 -0700, Janet Bostwick wrote:
> >
> >> On Sat, 3 Dec 2011 21:36:33 -0600, Sqwertz >
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>>On Sat, 03 Dec 2011 12:14:50 -0500, Gary wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Bryan wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Since my wife got home, people have been bringing her stuff, and one
> >>>>> person brought her a rosemary Christmas tree. I'd like to make that a
> >>>>> new tradition. I love fresh rosemary. After Christmas season, one
> >>>>> can eat his or her tree. Very green.
> >>>>
> >>>> What? :-O Am I the only one here that finds this a bit disturbing?
> >>>
> >>>Nobody tell him. Let him find out on his own that's a
> >>>decorative/landscaping rosemary and not a culinary rosemary.
> >>>
> >>>-sw
> >> I'm not familiar with a rosemary that isn't culinary. I would like to
> >> know more, cite?
> >
> >OK, I'll look it up for you <sigh>
> >
> >http://voices.yahoo.com/which-variet...43.html?cat=32
> >
> >Tuscan blue is the most widely used rosemary. It is the only kind I
> >have seen grown and sold for cooking.
> >
> >-sw
>
> Oh, pooh! "many top chefs" use it? Any one of the seed/plant
> catalogs I have show a dozen or more varieties of rosemary for cooking
> -- yes Tuscan Blue is there. My local nursery carries a dozen or
> more. The jars of dried stuff and the packages of fresh stuff at the
> grocers do not label the variety. It's like basil, you choose the
> varieties that suit your cuisine/palate the best. You did know that
> there are many kinds of basil available for cooking around the world?
>
Tuscan Blue is probably the one best suited for where he lives and
that's what he sees at the nursery, so he extrapolated it's the best
for everyone from there. You're right about them all being good for
cooking. I don't pick rosemary for the flavor (not a rosemary
connoisseur), I pick it for the leaves. Different varieties have
different growth patterns and different shapes and lengths of leaves.
I prefer upright plants with longer and flatter leaves.


--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

On Mon, 05 Dec 2011 09:28:01 -0800, sf > wrote:

>On Mon, 05 Dec 2011 08:17:34 -0700, Janet Bostwick
> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 5 Dec 2011 08:02:02 -0600, Sqwertz >
>> wrote:
>>
>> >On Sun, 04 Dec 2011 08:17:53 -0700, Janet Bostwick wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Sat, 3 Dec 2011 21:36:33 -0600, Sqwertz >
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>On Sat, 03 Dec 2011 12:14:50 -0500, Gary wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> Bryan wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Since my wife got home, people have been bringing her stuff, and one
>> >>>>> person brought her a rosemary Christmas tree. I'd like to make that a
>> >>>>> new tradition. I love fresh rosemary. After Christmas season, one
>> >>>>> can eat his or her tree. Very green.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> What? :-O Am I the only one here that finds this a bit disturbing?
>> >>>
>> >>>Nobody tell him. Let him find out on his own that's a
>> >>>decorative/landscaping rosemary and not a culinary rosemary.
>> >>>
>> >>>-sw
>> >> I'm not familiar with a rosemary that isn't culinary. I would like to
>> >> know more, cite?
>> >
>> >OK, I'll look it up for you <sigh>
>> >
>> >http://voices.yahoo.com/which-variet...43.html?cat=32
>> >
>> >Tuscan blue is the most widely used rosemary. It is the only kind I
>> >have seen grown and sold for cooking.
>> >
>> >-sw
>>
>> Oh, pooh! "many top chefs" use it? Any one of the seed/plant
>> catalogs I have show a dozen or more varieties of rosemary for cooking
>> -- yes Tuscan Blue is there. My local nursery carries a dozen or
>> more. The jars of dried stuff and the packages of fresh stuff at the
>> grocers do not label the variety. It's like basil, you choose the
>> varieties that suit your cuisine/palate the best. You did know that
>> there are many kinds of basil available for cooking around the world?
>>
>Tuscan Blue is probably the one best suited for where he lives and
>that's what he sees at the nursery, so he extrapolated it's the best
>for everyone from there. You're right about them all being good for
>cooking. I don't pick rosemary for the flavor (not a rosemary
>connoisseur), I pick it for the leaves. Different varieties have
>different growth patterns and different shapes and lengths of leaves.
>I prefer upright plants with longer and flatter leaves.

I love to have several varieties growing. My gardens are aimed toward
things that are scented. Unfortunately, I am seldomesuccessful with
overwintering rosemary. 'Arp' is sometimes successful here if the
winter isn't too severe. Most everything else won't tolerate the
winter in this time zone so I must bring pots in. I, too, love all
the shapes, configurations, colors and smells of rosemary.
Janet US

On Dec 5, 7:17*am, Janet Bostwick > wrote:
> On Mon, 5 Dec 2011 08:02:02 -0600, Sqwertz >
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> >On Sun, 04 Dec 2011 08:17:53 -0700, Janet Bostwick wrote:
>
> >> On Sat, 3 Dec 2011 21:36:33 -0600, Sqwertz >
> >> wrote:
>
> >>>On Sat, 03 Dec 2011 12:14:50 -0500, Gary wrote:
>
> >>>> Bryan wrote:
>
> >>>>> Since my wife got home, people have been bringing her stuff, and one
> >>>>> person brought her a rosemary Christmas tree. *I'd like to make that a
> >>>>> new tradition. *I love fresh rosemary. *After Christmas season, one
> >>>>> can eat his or her tree. *Very green.
>
> >>>> What? *:-O * Am I the only one here that finds this a bit disturbing?
>
> >>>Nobody tell him. *Let him find out on his own that's a
> >>>decorative/landscaping rosemary and not a culinary rosemary.
>
> >>>-sw
> >> I'm not familiar with a rosemary that isn't culinary. *I would like to
> >> know more, *cite?
>
> >OK, I'll look it up for you <sigh>
>
> >http://voices.yahoo.com/which-variet...43.html?cat=32
>
> >Tuscan blue is the most widely used rosemary. *It is the only kind I
> >have seen grown and sold for cooking.
>
> >-sw
>
> Oh, pooh! "many top chefs" use it? * Any one of the seed/plant
> catalogs I have show a dozen or more varieties of rosemary for cooking
> -- yes Tuscan Blue is there. *My local nursery carries a dozen or
> more. The jars of dried stuff and the packages of fresh stuff at the
> grocers do not label the variety. *It's like basil, you choose the
> varieties that suit your cuisine/palate the best. *You did know that
> there are many kinds of basil available for cooking around the world?
>
> Janet US- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

He's wrong. I'll put in a link from a Sunset magazine article on
rosemary selection. One key point:

"You can use any R. officinalis for cooking, but upright kinds with
broader leaves contain more aromatic oil. 'Tuscan Blue' is the
favorite of many chefs, but 'Blue Spires' and 'Miss Jessup's Upright'
are also good. So is 'Spice Island', which is normally sold in the
herb section; it grows into an upright, 4- to 5-foot-tall shrub. "

http://www.sunset.com/garden/flowers...0400000023371/

Susan B.

On Mon, 5 Dec 2011 13:37:57 -0800 (PST), sueb >
wrote:

>On Dec 5, 7:17*am, Janet Bostwick > wrote:
>> On Mon, 5 Dec 2011 08:02:02 -0600, Sqwertz >
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> >On Sun, 04 Dec 2011 08:17:53 -0700, Janet Bostwick wrote:
>>
>> >> On Sat, 3 Dec 2011 21:36:33 -0600, Sqwertz >
>> >> wrote:
>>
>> >>>On Sat, 03 Dec 2011 12:14:50 -0500, Gary wrote:
>>
>> >>>> Bryan wrote:
>>
>> >>>>> Since my wife got home, people have been bringing her stuff, and one
>> >>>>> person brought her a rosemary Christmas tree. *I'd like to make that a
>> >>>>> new tradition. *I love fresh rosemary. *After Christmas season, one
>> >>>>> can eat his or her tree. *Very green.
>>
>> >>>> What? *:-O * Am I the only one here that finds this a bit disturbing?
>>
>> >>>Nobody tell him. *Let him find out on his own that's a
>> >>>decorative/landscaping rosemary and not a culinary rosemary.
>>
>> >>>-sw
>> >> I'm not familiar with a rosemary that isn't culinary. *I would like to
>> >> know more, *cite?
>>
>> >OK, I'll look it up for you <sigh>
>>
>> >http://voices.yahoo.com/which-variet...43.html?cat=32
>>
>> >Tuscan blue is the most widely used rosemary. *It is the only kind I
>> >have seen grown and sold for cooking.
>>
>> >-sw
>>
>> Oh, pooh! "many top chefs" use it? * Any one of the seed/plant
>> catalogs I have show a dozen or more varieties of rosemary for cooking
>> -- yes Tuscan Blue is there. *My local nursery carries a dozen or
>> more. The jars of dried stuff and the packages of fresh stuff at the
>> grocers do not label the variety. *It's like basil, you choose the
>> varieties that suit your cuisine/palate the best. *You did know that
>> there are many kinds of basil available for cooking around the world?
>>
>> Janet US- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
>He's wrong. I'll put in a link from a Sunset magazine article on
>rosemary selection. One key point:
>
>"You can use any R. officinalis for cooking, but upright kinds with
>broader leaves contain more aromatic oil.

You can say the same for peppercorns, or any spice/herb. And
depending on growing conditions the properties of plants change...
that's why it's a good idea to season discriminately and taste before
adding more.

On Dec 5, 3:00*pm, Sqwertz > wrote:
> On Mon, 5 Dec 2011 13:37:57 -0800 (PST), sueb wrote:
> > On Dec 5, 7:17*am, Janet Bostwick > wrote:
> >> On Mon, 5 Dec 2011 08:02:02 -0600, Sqwertz >
> >> wrote:
>
> >>>On Sun, 04 Dec 2011 08:17:53 -0700, Janet Bostwick wrote:
>
> >>>> On Sat, 3 Dec 2011 21:36:33 -0600, Sqwertz >
> >>>> wrote:
>
> >>>>>On Sat, 03 Dec 2011 12:14:50 -0500, Gary wrote:
>
> >>>>>> Bryan wrote:
>
> >>>>>>> Since my wife got home, people have been bringing her stuff, and one
> >>>>>>> person brought her a rosemary Christmas tree. *I'd like to make that a
> >>>>>>> new tradition. *I love fresh rosemary. *After Christmas season, one
> >>>>>>> can eat his or her tree. *Very green.
>
> >>>>>> What? *:-O * Am I the only one here that finds this a bit disturbing?
>
> >>>>>Nobody tell him. *Let him find out on his own that's a
> >>>>>decorative/landscaping rosemary and not a culinary rosemary.
>
> >>>>>-sw
> >>>> I'm not familiar with a rosemary that isn't culinary. *I would like to
> >>>> know more, *cite?
>
> >>>OK, I'll look it up for you <sigh>
>
> >>>http://voices.yahoo.com/which-variet...43.html?cat=32
>
> >>>Tuscan blue is the most widely used rosemary. *It is the only kind I
> >>>have seen grown and sold for cooking.
>
> >>>-sw
>
> >> Oh, pooh! "many top chefs" use it? * Any one of the seed/plant
> >> catalogs I have show a dozen or more varieties of rosemary for cooking
> >> -- yes Tuscan Blue is there. *My local nursery carries a dozen or
> >> more. The jars of dried stuff and the packages of fresh stuff at the
> >> grocers do not label the variety. *It's like basil, you choose the
> >> varieties that suit your cuisine/palate the best. *You did know that
> >> there are many kinds of basil available for cooking around the world?
>
> >> Janet US- Hide quoted text -
>
> >> - Show quoted text -
>
> > He's wrong. *I'll put in a link from a Sunset magazine article on
> > rosemary selection. *One key point:
>
> > 'Tuscan Blue' is the favorite of many chefs,
>
> Exactly. 95% of them. *It's what's taught in culinary schools, what
> appears in articles in trade magazines, and what is sold by commercial
> spice vendors to the restaurant trade. *There is nothing untrue in
> what I said.
>
> Regardless, what Bryan has is not culinarily acceptable.
>
> -sw- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

How clever of you to snip out the important part:

"You can use any R. officinalis for cooking"

So what Bryan has *is* culinarily acceptable.

Susan B.

On Mon, 5 Dec 2011 13:54:37 -0600, Sqwertz >
wrote:

>On Mon, 05 Dec 2011 08:17:34 -0700, Janet Bostwick wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 5 Dec 2011 08:02:02 -0600, Sqwertz >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>On Sun, 04 Dec 2011 08:17:53 -0700, Janet Bostwick wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sat, 3 Dec 2011 21:36:33 -0600, Sqwertz >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Sat, 03 Dec 2011 12:14:50 -0500, Gary wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Bryan wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Since my wife got home, people have been bringing her stuff, and one
>>>>>>> person brought her a rosemary Christmas tree. I'd like to make that a
>>>>>>> new tradition. I love fresh rosemary. After Christmas season, one
>>>>>>> can eat his or her tree. Very green.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What? :-O Am I the only one here that finds this a bit disturbing?
>>>>>
>>>>>Nobody tell him. Let him find out on his own that's a
>>>>>decorative/landscaping rosemary and not a culinary rosemary.
>>>>>
>>>>>-sw
>>>> I'm not familiar with a rosemary that isn't culinary. I would like to
>>>> know more, cite?
>>>
>>>OK, I'll look it up for you <sigh>
>>>
>>>http://voices.yahoo.com/which-variet...43.html?cat=32
>>>
>>>Tuscan blue is the most widely used rosemary. It is the only kind I
>>>have seen grown and sold for cooking.
>>>
>>>-sw
>>
>> Oh, pooh! "many top chefs" use it?
>
>OK, it *IS* the standard in 95% of commercial kitchens who don't grow
>their own. And its the one always in the veggie section of the
>grocery store. Is that better? Because it's true.
>
>Did you ask me to cite it just so you could disagree with it? Homey
>ain't falling for that again.
>
>> It's like basil, you choose the
>> varieties that suit your cuisine/palate the best. You did know that
>> there are many kinds of basil available for cooking around the world?
>
>No reason to get snide just because you tried to call my bluff and
>lost.
>
>-sw

I was expecting a horticultural source that listed landscape and
culinary varieties. Can't check your other assertions yet as I can't
drive. Busted my right arm and am pecking with left hand on keyboard
on lap.
Janet US

On 12/5/2011 7:08 PM, Janet Bostwick wrote:

> I was expecting a horticultural source that listed landscape and
> culinary varieties. Can't check your other assertions yet as I can't
> drive. Busted my right arm and am pecking with left hand on keyboard
> on lap.

Double ouch! Hope you're better soon.

nancy

On Mon, 05 Dec 2011 17:08:08 -0700, Janet Bostwick
> wrote:

> On Mon, 5 Dec 2011 13:54:37 -0600, Sqwertz >
> wrote:
>
> >On Mon, 05 Dec 2011 08:17:34 -0700, Janet Bostwick wrote:
> >
> >> On Mon, 5 Dec 2011 08:02:02 -0600, Sqwertz >
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>>On Sun, 04 Dec 2011 08:17:53 -0700, Janet Bostwick wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On Sat, 3 Dec 2011 21:36:33 -0600, Sqwertz >
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>On Sat, 03 Dec 2011 12:14:50 -0500, Gary wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Bryan wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Since my wife got home, people have been bringing her stuff, and one
> >>>>>>> person brought her a rosemary Christmas tree. I'd like to make that a
> >>>>>>> new tradition. I love fresh rosemary. After Christmas season, one
> >>>>>>> can eat his or her tree. Very green.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> What? :-O Am I the only one here that finds this a bit disturbing?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Nobody tell him. Let him find out on his own that's a
> >>>>>decorative/landscaping rosemary and not a culinary rosemary.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>-sw
> >>>> I'm not familiar with a rosemary that isn't culinary. I would like to
> >>>> know more, cite?
> >>>
> >>>OK, I'll look it up for you <sigh>
> >>>
> >>>http://voices.yahoo.com/which-variet...43.html?cat=32
> >>>
> >>>Tuscan blue is the most widely used rosemary. It is the only kind I
> >>>have seen grown and sold for cooking.
> >>>
> >>>-sw
> >>
> >> Oh, pooh! "many top chefs" use it?
> >
> >OK, it *IS* the standard in 95% of commercial kitchens who don't grow
> >their own. And its the one always in the veggie section of the
> >grocery store. Is that better? Because it's true.
> >
> >Did you ask me to cite it just so you could disagree with it? Homey
> >ain't falling for that again.
> >
> >> It's like basil, you choose the
> >> varieties that suit your cuisine/palate the best. You did know that
> >> there are many kinds of basil available for cooking around the world?
> >
> >No reason to get snide just because you tried to call my bluff and
> >lost.
> >
> >-sw
>
> I was expecting a horticultural source that listed landscape and
> culinary varieties. Can't check your other assertions yet as I can't
> drive. Busted my right arm and am pecking with left hand on keyboard
> on lap.

Q: Where did he get his numbers? A: From his imagination.

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

On Mon, 5 Dec 2011 20:48:25 -0600, Sqwertz >
wrote:

>On Mon, 05 Dec 2011 17:08:08 -0700, Janet Bostwick wrote:
>
>> I was expecting a horticultural source that listed landscape and
>> culinary varieties. Can't check your other assertions yet as I can't
>> drive. Busted my right arm and am pecking with left hand on keyboard
>> on lap.
>
>I haven't driven for over 20 years. That doesn't stop me from getting
>around, meeting and talking to people in the industry.
>
>Sure, it's all edible. I wasn't denying that, so don't try and go
>anal on me.
>
>-sw
o.k., no problem. your original assertion was that there were
landscape and culinary rosemary. I asked for info regarding that.
the discussion digressed from there. my fault for following you down
that path.
Janet US

On Sat, 3 Dec 2011 21:36:33 -0600, Sqwertz >
wrote:

>On Sat, 03 Dec 2011 12:14:50 -0500, Gary wrote:
>
>> Bryan wrote:
>>>
>>> Since my wife got home, people have been bringing her stuff, and one
>>> person brought her a rosemary Christmas tree. I'd like to make that a
>>> new tradition. I love fresh rosemary. After Christmas season, one
>>> can eat his or her tree. Very green.
>>
>> What? :-O Am I the only one here that finds this a bit disturbing?
>
>Nobody tell him. Let him find out on his own that's a
>decorative/landscaping rosemary and not a culinary rosemary.
>
>-sw

Rosemary is edible. Even the kind that grows 20 feet long and 5 feet
wide.

There are many, many varieties of rosemary and their tastes and
strengths vary quite bit, but I have never come across one that is not
edible.

Boron

"Boron Elgar" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 3 Dec 2011 21:36:33 -0600, Sqwertz >
> wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 03 Dec 2011 12:14:50 -0500, Gary wrote:
>>
>>> Bryan wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Since my wife got home, people have been bringing her stuff, and one
>>>> person brought her a rosemary Christmas tree. I'd like to make that a
>>>> new tradition. I love fresh rosemary. After Christmas season, one
>>>> can eat his or her tree. Very green.
>>>
>>> What? :-O Am I the only one here that finds this a bit disturbing?
>>
>>Nobody tell him. Let him find out on his own that's a
>>decorative/landscaping rosemary and not a culinary rosemary.
>>
>>-sw
>
> Rosemary is edible. Even the kind that grows 20 feet long and 5 feet
> wide.
>
> There are many, many varieties of rosemary and their tastes and
> strengths vary quite bit, but I have never come across one that is not
> edible.
>
> Boron


Am I the only person who remembers Euell Gibbons? "Ever eat a pine tree?"


Jill

On Mon, 5 Dec 2011 07:19:45 -0500, "jmcquown" >
wrote:

>
>"Boron Elgar" > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Sat, 3 Dec 2011 21:36:33 -0600, Sqwertz >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>On Sat, 03 Dec 2011 12:14:50 -0500, Gary wrote:
>>>
>>>> Bryan wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Since my wife got home, people have been bringing her stuff, and one
>>>>> person brought her a rosemary Christmas tree. I'd like to make that a
>>>>> new tradition. I love fresh rosemary. After Christmas season, one
>>>>> can eat his or her tree. Very green.
>>>>
>>>> What? :-O Am I the only one here that finds this a bit disturbing?
>>>
>>>Nobody tell him. Let him find out on his own that's a
>>>decorative/landscaping rosemary and not a culinary rosemary.
>>>
>>>-sw
>>
>> Rosemary is edible. Even the kind that grows 20 feet long and 5 feet
>> wide.
>>
>> There are many, many varieties of rosemary and their tastes and
>> strengths vary quite bit, but I have never come across one that is not
>> edible.
>>
>> Boron
>
>
>Am I the only person who remembers Euell Gibbons? "Ever eat a pine tree?"
>
>
>Jill

Gibbons also recommended eating poison ivy to create immunity to it.
He was nuts.

Boron

On 12/5/2011 7:35 AM, Boron Elgar wrote:
> On Mon, 5 Dec 2011 07:19:45 -0500, >
> wrote:

>> Am I the only person who remembers Euell Gibbons? "Ever eat a pine tree?"
>>

> Gibbons also recommended eating poison ivy to create immunity to it.
> He was nuts.

Wow. Someone I knew almost died from inhaling burning poison ivy
fumes; I can't imagine having a reaction in your throat is all
that safe, either.

I'm so susceptible to its ill effects I get nervous just
thinking about it.

nancy

On 12/5/2011 5:35 AM, Boron Elgar wrote:
> On Mon, 5 Dec 2011 07:19:45 -0500, >


>> Am I the only person who remembers Euell Gibbons? "Ever eat a pine tree?"
>>
>>
>> Jill
>
> Gibbons also recommended eating poison ivy to create immunity to it.
> He was nuts.
>
> Boron



OMG, what a horrible way to die (or at least wish you were dead.)

gloria p
who developed a healthy respect for poison ivy
along with the first allergic reaction at age 28.

On Mon, 5 Dec 2011 07:19:45 -0500, "jmcquown" >
wrote:

> Am I the only person who remembers Euell Gibbons? "Ever eat a pine tree?"
>
>
I remembered him and "got it", but I didn't think it was a funny
enough joke to chime in.


--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.