"Janet Wilder" > wrote in message
b.com...
> On 12/7/2011 5:22 PM, Bryan wrote:
>> People are taking turns bringing over dinner to be helpful while Betsy
>> recovers. My sister was bringing lasagna, and announced beforehand
>> that she was making a separate one for me w/o noodles. When she
>> arrived, she announced that she has used spaghetti squash instead of
>> the noodles. Why the F--k hadn't she just left out the noodles and
>> not put in goddamned SQUASH. I told her that I wouldn't eat such a
>> thing. It's OK anyway, since I had already had a big lunch, 3 duck
>> wings and some of my wife's cashew chicken. The cashew chicken had
>> cornstarch in it, so by my rules I had to go to the gym and do one set
>> of at least 10 reps on all 18 machines, with enough weight that it
>> hurt. I figure if I eat too much carb, I burn it off right away
>> before my body gets a chance to know it's there. Kinda like feeding a
>> stray dog, in that I don't want my body to start expecting excess
>> glucose. I still have 3 more duck wings left.
>>
>> --Bryan
>
> Be happy you have a sister who cares. I was battling cancer and a
> ruptured colon and all I got from my sister was an email telling me she
> had people in Baltimore (where she lives) praying for me. She didn't
> mention that *she* was praying for me, just strangers.
>
> Fast forward a year (without having heard a word from her) and I get an
> email telling me I deserved to have cancer on my tongue because someone
> told her I once called her a "bitch"
>
> Now be grateful for her love, pick out the squash and eat the damned
> lasagna.

How rude! I would far rather have someone tell me they don't like something
I have cooked than to have someone pick out bits of it and eat the rest.
But then again, I do go out of my way to make something the person will
like. If I don't remember their likes and dislikes or other food issues, I
will always ask before I make it. I would also never just drop something
off like that without asking first.

On Dec 7, 3:36*pm, George Leppla > wrote:
> On 12/7/2011 5:22 PM, Bryan wrote:
>
> > When she
> > arrived, she announced that she has used spaghetti squash instead of
> > the noodles. *Why the F--k hadn't she just left out the noodles and
> > not put in goddamned SQUASH. *I told her that I wouldn't eat such a
> > thing.
>
> So this woman goes out of her way to make something special thinking you
> could eat it... and you tell her you wouldn't eat it. *Not couldn't....
> not didn't want to... but wouldn't eat it.
>
> Next time, don't be surprised if she doesn't even try. I know I wouldn't.
>
> George L

No kidding...

On Dec 7, 6:11*pm, dsi1 > wrote:
> On 12/7/2011 3:38 PM, Felice wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >>> On 12/7/2011 1:22 PM, Bryan wrote:
> >>>> People are taking turns bringing over dinner to be helpful while
> >>>> Betsy recovers. My sister was bringing lasagna, and announced
> >>>> beforehand that she was making a separate one for me w/o noodles.
> >>>> When she arrived, she announced that she has used spaghetti
> >>>> squash
> >>>> instead of the noodles. Why the F--k hadn't she just left out the
> >>>> noodles and not put in goddamned SQUASH. I told her that I
> >>>> wouldn't eat such a thing.<snip>
>
> > OK, Bryan, repeat after me:
>
> > "Gee, thanks, Sis. That looks great. I'm not very hungry now so I
> > think I'll save it for later when I have a better appetite."
>
> > Now stand in front of a mirror and keep saying that until you can do
> > it with a straight face.
>
> > Felice
>
> Poor Bryan - never learned how to lie straight-faced eye to eye. A lady
> gave me a picture of a kid lying down with a lion and a lamb. The lion
> and the kid have huge watery eyes that look straight at you. The lamb
> has regular eyes for some reason. Maybe because it's on the side of it's
> head.
>
> I told her thanks and that I'd have to find a place to hang it up and
> she left happy but frankly, that thing gives me the heebie-jeebies. I'm
> still thinking about where to hang it but you know that lying is just a
> great skill to have!

Garage, basement, attic, all are good places. Explain it inspires you
as you (1) change the oil, (2) fold the laundry, (3) get down the
Christmas stuff.

On Dec 7, 4:09*pm, Bryan > wrote:
> On Dec 7, 6:01*pm, "Pico Rico" > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > "John Kuthe" > wrote in message
>
> ....
> > On Dec 7, 5:48 pm, spamtrap1888 > wrote:
> > ...
>
> > > Spaghetti squash is an excellent and tasty substitute for pasta for
> > > those trying to avoid simple carbs. We'll steam it to eat with tomato
> > > sauce or with meat sauce. Scratching it lengthwise with a fork
> > > produces the "spaghetti" effect.
>
> > Except Bryan hates squash, categorically.
>
> > John Kuthe...
>
> > maybe his sister knows that and was less well meaning that it appears. *good
> > for her!
>
> No, she just wasn't thinking. *The meal was mostly for my wife.
>
> --Bryan

Sounds like she's the one that needs a little TLC- you can always go
to Del Taco...

there are noodles made out of rice and water only, also quinoa and water
only. I eat those, it's good for you, and no flour. H

"Hertha Witherspoon" > wrote in message
...
> there are noodles made out of rice and water only, also quinoa and water
> only. I eat those, it's good for you, and no flour. H

I don't think flour is the issue here. I think it's carbs. And those are
high in carbs.

"Bryan" > wrote in message
...
> People are taking turns bringing over dinner to be helpful while Betsy
> recovers. My sister was bringing lasagna, and announced beforehand
> that she was making a separate one for me w/o noodles. When she
> arrived, she announced that she has used spaghetti squash instead of
> the noodles. Why the F--k hadn't she just left out the noodles and
> not put in goddamned SQUASH. I told her that I wouldn't eat such a
> thing. It's OK anyway, since I had already had a big lunch, 3 duck
> wings and some of my wife's cashew chicken. The cashew chicken had
> cornstarch in it, so by my rules I had to go to the gym and do one set
> of at least 10 reps on all 18 machines, with enough weight that it
> hurt. I figure if I eat too much carb, I burn it off right away
> before my body gets a chance to know it's there. Kinda like feeding a
> stray dog, in that I don't want my body to start expecting excess
> glucose. I still have 3 more duck wings left.
>

I would have graciously accepted the gift and with the knowledge that she
cares about you. You clearly take her love for granted. I'm not impressed
with your behavior one bit though you sure seem to be. Did you heave the
food out the kitchen window in a blind rage? You owe her an apology, even
if she was not surprised by your oafish behavior.

Paul

"Bryan" > wrote in message
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On Dec 7, 6:50 pm, dsi1 > wrote:
> On 12/7/2011 1:22 PM, Bryan wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > People are taking turns bringing over dinner to be helpful while Betsy
> > recovers. My sister was bringing lasagna, and announced beforehand
> > that she was making a separate one for me w/o noodles. When she
> > arrived, she announced that she has used spaghetti squash instead of
> > the noodles. Why the F--k hadn't she just left out the noodles and
> > not put in goddamned SQUASH. I told her that I wouldn't eat such a
> > thing. It's OK anyway, since I had already had a big lunch, 3 duck
> > wings and some of my wife's cashew chicken. The cashew chicken had
> > cornstarch in it, so by my rules I had to go to the gym and do one set
> > of at least 10 reps on all 18 machines, with enough weight that it
> > hurt. I figure if I eat too much carb, I burn it off right away
> > before my body gets a chance to know it's there. Kinda like feeding a
> > stray dog, in that I don't want my body to start expecting excess
> > glucose. I still have 3 more duck wings left.
>
> > --Bryan
>
> That bitch!!!

No. More like, "Think, Susan. You know I don't eat squash." I
wasn't hostile to
her, partly because she has had a bad memory since she was a
teenager. We
love each other so much that I get along with her in spite of her
fascist leanings.


You like being a jerk.

Paul

On Dec 7, 6:22Â*pm, spamtrap1888 > wrote:
> On Dec 7, 6:11Â*pm, dsi1 > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On 12/7/2011 3:38 PM, Felice wrote:
>
> > >>> On 12/7/2011 1:22 PM, Bryan wrote:
> > >>>> People are taking turns bringing over dinner to be helpful while
> > >>>> Betsy recovers. My sister was bringing lasagna, and announced
> > >>>> beforehand that she was making a separate one for me w/o noodles.
> > >>>> When she arrived, she announced that she has used spaghetti
> > >>>> squash
> > >>>> instead of the noodles. Why the F--k hadn't she just left out the
> > >>>> noodles and not put in goddamned SQUASH. I told her that I
> > >>>> wouldn't eat such a thing.<snip>
>
> > > OK, Bryan, repeat after me:
>
> > > "Gee, thanks, Sis. That looks great. I'm not very hungry now so I
> > > think I'll save it for later when I have a better appetite."
>
> > > Now stand in front of a mirror and keep saying that until you can do
> > > it with a straight face.
>
> > > Felice
>
> > Poor Bryan - never learned how to lie straight-faced eye to eye. A lady
> > gave me a picture of a kid lying down with a lion and a lamb. The lion
> > and the kid have huge watery eyes that look straight at you. The lamb
> > has regular eyes for some reason. Maybe because it's on the side of it's
> > head.
>
> > I told her thanks and that I'd have to find a place to hang it up and
> > she left happy but frankly, that thing gives me the heebie-jeebies. I'm
> > still thinking about where to hang it but you know that lying is just a
> > great skill to have!
>
> Garage, basement, attic, all are good places. Explain it inspires you
> as you (1) change the oil, (2) fold the laundry, (3) get down the
> Christmas stuff.

eBay, man! It's super cheesy and I bet I can get a buck for it. Just
pay separate shipping and handling. �•

"Bryan" wrote in message
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On Dec 7, 5:34 pm, Chemo the Clown > wrote:
> On Dec 7, 3:22 pm, Bryan > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > People are taking turns bringing over dinner to be helpful while Betsy
> > recovers. My sister was bringing lasagna, and announced beforehand
> > that she was making a separate one for me w/o noodles. When she
> > arrived, she announced that she has used spaghetti squash instead of
> > the noodles. Why the F--k hadn't she just left out the noodles and
> > not put in goddamned SQUASH. I told her that I wouldn't eat such a
> > thing. It's OK anyway, since I had already had a big lunch, 3 duck
> > wings and some of my wife's cashew chicken. The cashew chicken had
> > cornstarch in it, so by my rules I had to go to the gym and do one set
> > of at least 10 reps on all 18 machines, with enough weight that it
> > hurt. I figure if I eat too much carb, I burn it off right away
> > before my body gets a chance to know it's there. Kinda like feeding a
> > stray dog, in that I don't want my body to start expecting excess
> > glucose. I still have 3 more duck wings left.
>
> > --Bryan
>
> Be happy you have a sister....

I am. I have two sisters, and she's the one I like, in spite of the
fact that she
is a Republican. I have two brothers too. I seldom see either of
them. I don't
dislike them, but we have little in common. The oldest one is very
funny, and
when I do see him--because I am friends with his daughter--we have
some laughs,
but I dislike his wife. The middle brother (I am the youngest
sibling) has become
a fundie Christian, and is just weird. I really should invite the two
brothers to
hang out sometime because it might be interesting.
Bryan





I would let you bloody well starve to death, you picky ungrateful *******..

BB

"Janet Wilder" > wrote in message
b.com...

> Be happy you have a sister who cares. I was battling cancer and a
> ruptured colon and all I got from my sister was an email telling me she
> had people in Baltimore (where she lives) praying for me. She didn't
> mention that *she* was praying for me, just strangers.
>
> Fast forward a year (without having heard a word from her) and I get an
> email telling me I deserved to have cancer on my tongue because someone
> told her I once called her a "bitch"


I had always wanted a sister ... That cruel bitch ought not to be
allowed one!

> Now be grateful for her love, pick out the squash and eat the damned
> lasagna.

Amen!

--
http://www.shop.helpforheroes.org.uk/

On Dec 7, 8:12*pm, spamtrap1888 > wrote:
> On Dec 7, 5:10*pm, Bryan > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Dec 7, 6:50*pm, dsi1 > wrote:
>
> > > On 12/7/2011 1:22 PM, Bryan wrote:
>
> > > > People are taking turns bringing over dinner to be helpful while Betsy
> > > > recovers. *My sister was bringing lasagna, and announced beforehand
> > > > that she was making a separate one for me w/o noodles. *When she
> > > > arrived, she announced that she has used spaghetti squash instead of
> > > > the noodles. *Why the F--k hadn't she just left out the noodles and
> > > > not put in goddamned SQUASH. *I told her that I wouldn't eat such a
> > > > thing. *It's OK anyway, since I had already had a big lunch, 3 duck
> > > > wings and some of my wife's cashew chicken. *The cashew chicken had
> > > > cornstarch in it, so by my rules I had to go to the gym and do one set
> > > > of at least 10 reps on all 18 machines, with enough weight that it
> > > > hurt. *I figure if I eat too much carb, I burn it off right away
> > > > before my body gets a chance to know it's there. *Kinda like feeding a
> > > > stray dog, in that I don't want my body to start expecting excess
> > > > glucose. *I still have 3 more duck wings left.
>
> > > > --Bryan
>
> > > That bitch!!!
>
> > No. *More like, "Think, Susan. *You know I don't eat squash." *I
> > wasn't hostile to
> > her, partly because she has had a bad memory since she was a
> > teenager. *We
> > love each other so much that I get along with her in spite of her
> > fascist leanings.
>
> Fascist? Bryan's sister seems to have the open flexible attitude I
> associate with liberals, because she considers the needs of others,
> and goes out of her way to thoughtfully meet them.

You have to be smart enough to know that one's philosophy on
political economy doesn't correlate much with how one gets along with
ones family.
"Fascism is an economic system in which corporations, or the
wealthy elite, are essentially the government and vice versa."
--source
http://askville.amazon.com/wealthy-p...uestId=1259522

> Whereas Bryan is some bigoted Anticucurbite.

I like watermelons and pickled cucumbers.

--Bryan

On Dec 7, 11:55*pm, "Paul M. Cook" > wrote:
>
>
> I would have graciously accepted the gift and with the knowledge that she
> cares about you. *You clearly take her love for granted. *I'm not impressed
> with your behavior one bit though you sure seem to be.


> Did you heave the food out the kitchen window in a blind rage?

No, my wife and son ate it. He, of course, avoided the half that had
the
weird ingredient in it.

> You owe her an apology, even
> if she was not surprised by your oafish behavior.

She's as thick skinned as me, and can dish it out as well as take it.
Her attitude was, "your loss." An apology would be seen as a bit
absurd.
>
> Paul

--Bryan

On Dec 8, 3:47*am, " BB" > wrote:
>
> I would let you bloody well starve to death, you picky ungrateful *******...

We didn't need anyone bringing us meals in the first place since I,
not my wife, do 99% of the cooking when I'm home, you ignorant ass who
doesn't know how to handle attribution, or is perhaps just too
slovenly to do so.
>
> BB

--Bryan

On Dec 7, 8:11*pm, dsi1 > wrote:
> On 12/7/2011 3:38 PM, Felice wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >>> On 12/7/2011 1:22 PM, Bryan wrote:
> >>>> People are taking turns bringing over dinner to be helpful while
> >>>> Betsy recovers. My sister was bringing lasagna, and announced
> >>>> beforehand that she was making a separate one for me w/o noodles.
> >>>> When she arrived, she announced that she has used spaghetti
> >>>> squash
> >>>> instead of the noodles. Why the F--k hadn't she just left out the
> >>>> noodles and not put in goddamned SQUASH. I told her that I
> >>>> wouldn't eat such a thing.<snip>
>
> > OK, Bryan, repeat after me:
>
> > "Gee, thanks, Sis. That looks great. I'm not very hungry now so I
> > think I'll save it for later when I have a better appetite."

I am not a liar.
>
> > Now stand in front of a mirror and keep saying that until you can do
> > it with a straight face.

I don't wish to become a liar.
>
> > Felice
>
> Poor Bryan - never learned how to lie straight-faced eye to eye.

I make it a practice not to do so. Obviously, the two of you are
habitual liars,
and are proud of it.

--Bryan

On Dec 7, 10:22*pm, spamtrap1888 > wrote:
> On Dec 7, 6:11*pm, dsi1 > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On 12/7/2011 3:38 PM, Felice wrote:
>
> > >>> On 12/7/2011 1:22 PM, Bryan wrote:
> > >>>> People are taking turns bringing over dinner to be helpful while
> > >>>> Betsy recovers. My sister was bringing lasagna, and announced
> > >>>> beforehand that she was making a separate one for me w/o noodles.
> > >>>> When she arrived, she announced that she has used spaghetti
> > >>>> squash
> > >>>> instead of the noodles. Why the F--k hadn't she just left out the
> > >>>> noodles and not put in goddamned SQUASH. I told her that I
> > >>>> wouldn't eat such a thing.<snip>
>
> > > OK, Bryan, repeat after me:
>
> > > "Gee, thanks, Sis. That looks great. I'm not very hungry now so I
> > > think I'll save it for later when I have a better appetite."
>
> > > Now stand in front of a mirror and keep saying that until you can do
> > > it with a straight face.
>
> > > Felice
>
> > Poor Bryan - never learned how to lie straight-faced eye to eye. A lady
> > gave me a picture of a kid lying down with a lion and a lamb. The lion
> > and the kid have huge watery eyes that look straight at you. The lamb
> > has regular eyes for some reason. Maybe because it's on the side of it's
> > head.
>
> > I told her thanks and that I'd have to find a place to hang it up and
> > she left happy but frankly, that thing gives me the heebie-jeebies. I'm
> > still thinking about where to hang it but you know that lying is just a
> > great skill to have!

Once you establish that you are a liar, no one should believe a single
thing
that spews from your maw.
>
> Garage, basement, attic, all are good places. Explain it inspires you
> as you (1) change the oil, (2) fold the laundry, (3) get down the
> Christmas stuff.

In other words, lie.

--Bryan

On Dec 8, 7:10*am, Bryan > wrote:
....
>
> In other words, lie.
>
> --Bryan

There is a substantive difference between lying via omission and lying
via commission. Saying "Wow this is really good" while eating a dish
you hate is substantively different from simply politely avoiding
eating that which you hate.

I was at a wine tasting party with friends years and I went in the
kitchen and poured myself a glass of a white Bordeaux which upon first
sip was YUCK to me. I figured maybe I had to give it another couple of
sips, but after 2 or 3 and no improvement, I politely and quietly got
up, went back in the kitchen and poured that foul glass of crap down
the drain and got myself a glass of Cabernet and rejoined the party in
the living room. No need to publically exclaim "Man this white
Bordeaux sucks!" Someone had brought that Bordeaux and I didn't want
to make anyone feel bad. I just didn't like it. Maybe others did, I
dunno. Not my problem, there were other wines there I loved!

Maybe you could have picked the offending strips of squash out and
eaten around them! Or did the presence of the squash infuse it's vile
squash-ness into everything else in the lasagna?

I swear Bryan! More black and white/all or nothing thinking on your
part.

John Kuthe...

On Dec 7, 6:22*pm, Bryan > wrote:
> People are taking turns bringing over dinner to be helpful while Betsy
> recovers. *My sister was bringing lasagna, and announced beforehand
> that she was making a separate one for me w/o noodles. *When she
> arrived, she announced that she has used spaghetti squash instead of
> the noodles. *Why the F--k hadn't she just left out the noodles and
> not put in goddamned SQUASH. *I told her that I wouldn't eat such a
> thing. *It's OK anyway, since I had already had a big lunch, 3 duck
> wings and some of my wife's cashew chicken. *The cashew chicken had
> cornstarch in it, so by my rules I had to go to the gym and do one set
> of at least 10 reps on all 18 machines, with enough weight that it
> hurt. *I figure if I eat too much carb, I burn it off right away
> before my body gets a chance to know it's there. *Kinda like feeding a
> stray dog, in that I don't want my body to start expecting excess
> glucose. *I still have 3 more duck wings left.
>
> --Bryan

It was kind of her to bring something - couldn't you just let it go at
that?

On Dec 8, 8:04*am, Kalmia > wrote:
> On Dec 7, 6:22*pm, Bryan > wrote:
>
>
>
> > People are taking turns bringing over dinner to be helpful while Betsy
> > recovers. *My sister was bringing lasagna, and announced beforehand
> > that she was making a separate one for me w/o noodles. *When she
> > arrived, she announced that she has used spaghetti squash instead of
> > the noodles. *Why the F--k hadn't she just left out the noodles and
> > not put in goddamned SQUASH. *I told her that I wouldn't eat such a
> > thing. *It's OK anyway, since I had already had a big lunch, 3 duck
> > wings and some of my wife's cashew chicken. *The cashew chicken had
> > cornstarch in it, so by my rules I had to go to the gym and do one set
> > of at least 10 reps on all 18 machines, with enough weight that it
> > hurt. *I figure if I eat too much carb, I burn it off right away
> > before my body gets a chance to know it's there. *Kinda like feeding a
> > stray dog, in that I don't want my body to start expecting excess
> > glucose. *I still have 3 more duck wings left.
>
> > --Bryan
>
> It was kind of her to bring something - couldn't you just let it go at
> that?

Bryan is a social oaf, as am I often. I think those who know and love
Bryan take that into account and cut him slack. I know it took me a
long time to learn this about him, and I often forget and find myself
in positions to "get my feelings hurt" when he apparently demonstrates
no concern for my feelings. I've learned to remind myself though, and
I'm an adult and can take care of my own feelings.

It's not that Bryan *doesn't* care about others' feelings, it's that
he cares a lot more about his own (and we ALL do!) and forgets to show
"sufficient" concern for anyone else's feelings often. I know, I have
the same problem! That's why so many here killfile me.

John Kuthe...

On 07/12/2011 11:06 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
> "Dave > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 07/12/2011 8:27 PM, Dimitri wrote:
>>>
>>> BTW my SIL gave us a breakfast drink recipe that called for 2
>>> tablespoons of OAK bran.
>>
>>
>> She sounds like my former SiL.... my wife's late brother's ex-wife. We
>> went up to help them with the ski chalet they were building. Breakfast
>> was mush...... a mixture, oatmeal, cream of wheat various other grains.
>> That was okay for me because I like hot cereal, but I wouldn't want it
>> every day like her kids had to endure.
>>
>> After working hard all morning we went in for lunch..... slice of hard
>> boiled eggs over plain yoghurt.
>
> We stayed with my mom's aunt and uncle for about a week. Breakfast was
> pretty much like that but I believe it was Cream Of Wheat. There were no
> seasonings on any of the food because my great uncle didn't like them.
> Neither was the gravy ever thickened because he didn't like that either.
> She was also very fond of serving poached eggs that were just barely cooked.
>

This woman was the health food Nazi. She knew the nutritional value of
each of the grains in the various hot cereals. Some were high in some
nutrients but low in others. Instead of having one each day, she made
the same mush every morning. It wasn't horrible, but it was bland. I
could stomach it once in a while but those poor kids had it every day.


This wasn't a matter of charity. We drove a long way to spend our
weekend with various construction projects. Most people would expect to
be well fed. We got crappy food and health food lectures.



> Odd thing is, I survived just fine for many weeks in various motels while
> waiting for my housing on Cape Cod. I bought fresh fruit and veggies
> (mostly veggies) and some other things that could be eaten as is. I may
> have had a salt and pepper shaker. But no other seasonings. I am fine with
> a lot of foods being unseasoned. But certain things just need it.
>


I don't get as much enjoyment from eating asparagus these days. I am
not supposed to eat butter or salt. I never did add much of either to
cooked vegetables but I always liked both on asparagus.

"Bryan" > wrote in message
...
On Dec 7, 11:55 pm, "Paul M. Cook" > wrote:
>
>
> I would have graciously accepted the gift and with the knowledge that she
> cares about you. You clearly take her love for granted. I'm not impressed
> with your behavior one bit though you sure seem to be.


> Did you heave the food out the kitchen window in a blind rage?

No, my wife and son ate it. He, of course, avoided the half that had
the
weird ingredient in it.


Weird? I've seen that dish more than once. Spaghetti squash is a common
replacement for pasta.


> You owe her an apology, even
> if she was not surprised by your oafish behavior.

She's as thick skinned as me, and can dish it out as well as take it.
Her attitude was, "your loss." An apology would be seen as a bit
absurd.


OK, so you probably punched her goodbye when she left? Or did you just
slash her tires? I picture a Saturday Night Live skit ...

Paul

"Pico Rico" > wrote in message
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>
> "Bryan" > wrote in message
> ...
> On Dec 7, 6:20 pm, Ema Nymton > wrote:
>> On 12/7/2011 5:48 PM, spamtrap1888 wrote:
>>
>> > Spaghetti squash is an excellent and tasty substitute for pasta for
>> > those trying to avoid simple carbs. We'll steam it to eat with tomato
>> > sauce or with meat sauce. Scratching it lengthwise with a fork
>> > produces the "spaghetti" effect.
>>
>> Eggplant is another good substitute for pasta.
>
> I don't see the need for substitutes,
>
It's the whole "low" (or no) carbing thing. I don't see the need for that,
either.

I'm not a fan of spaghetti squash (but I like most squash in general). She
did say she was going to bring him something that didn't involve noodles. I
don't know why he was surprised. Lasagna without some sort of layering (be
it noodles, squash or eggplant) is just meat in tomato sauce with ricotta
and mozarella. Yeah, give me a big bowl of that! LOL

Jill

On 12/8/2011 9:50 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 07/12/2011 11:06 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>> "Dave > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On 07/12/2011 8:27 PM, Dimitri wrote:
>>>>
>>>> BTW my SIL gave us a breakfast drink recipe that called for 2
>>>> tablespoons of OAK bran.
>>>
>>>
>>> She sounds like my former SiL.... my wife's late brother's ex-wife. We
>>> went up to help them with the ski chalet they were building. Breakfast
>>> was mush...... a mixture, oatmeal, cream of wheat various other grains.
>>> That was okay for me because I like hot cereal, but I wouldn't want it
>>> every day like her kids had to endure.
>>>
>>> After working hard all morning we went in for lunch..... slice of hard
>>> boiled eggs over plain yoghurt.
>>
>> We stayed with my mom's aunt and uncle for about a week. Breakfast was
>> pretty much like that but I believe it was Cream Of Wheat. There were no
>> seasonings on any of the food because my great uncle didn't like them.
>> Neither was the gravy ever thickened because he didn't like that either.
>> She was also very fond of serving poached eggs that were just barely
>> cooked.
>>
>
> This woman was the health food Nazi. She knew the nutritional value of
> each of the grains in the various hot cereals. Some were high in some
> nutrients but low in others. Instead of having one each day, she made
> the same mush every morning. It wasn't horrible, but it was bland. I
> could stomach it once in a while but those poor kids had it every day.
>
>
> This wasn't a matter of charity. We drove a long way to spend our
> weekend with various construction projects. Most people would expect to
> be well fed. We got crappy food and health food lectures.
>
>
>
>> Odd thing is, I survived just fine for many weeks in various motels while
>> waiting for my housing on Cape Cod. I bought fresh fruit and veggies
>> (mostly veggies) and some other things that could be eaten as is. I may
>> have had a salt and pepper shaker. But no other seasonings. I am fine
>> with
>> a lot of foods being unseasoned. But certain things just need it.
>>
>
>
> I don't get as much enjoyment from eating asparagus these days. I am not
> supposed to eat butter or salt. I never did add much of either to cooked
> vegetables but I always liked both on asparagus.
>
>
I agree that butter and lemon is one of the best sauces for asparagus.
For those like me who don't eat butter, there are a variety of fairly
good dipping sauces.

Here are a few.
1. Cheese/yogurt

Good for artichokes.

2 tab yogurt
1 tab mayonnaise (or sour cream)
1 tab grated Parmesan
1/2 tab chopped scallion
1/2 tab chopped chives
1/2 tab dry sherry
1/8 tsp turmeric; just enough to give a slight yellow color
lemon juice if needed.

A squirt of butter flavor does no harm

2. Curry Mayonnaise

Original says: “add curry to taste” and is pretty awful since uncooked
curry powder doesn’t taste good at all. However, curry mayonnaise made
by cooking chopped onion with curry powder, adding to mayonnaise and
adjusting with lemon does work (and that’s how I’ve always made it.)

3. Sour cream with horse-radish

3 tablespoons milk
2 cups creamed cottage cheese
2 tablespoons prepared horseradish
1/2 teaspoon Worcestershire sauce
1 sprig parsley
dash salt

Put all ingredients in blender container; blend on high speed until
smooth. Serve with vegetable dippers

4. Herb.

Mayonnaise or sour cream flavored with lemon, mint, mustard, salt and
pepper.


--


James Silverton, Potomac

I'm *not*

On Dec 8, 8:38*am, John Kuthe > wrote:
> On Dec 8, 8:04*am, Kalmia > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Dec 7, 6:22*pm, Bryan > wrote:
>
> > > People are taking turns bringing over dinner to be helpful while Betsy
> > > recovers. *My sister was bringing lasagna, and announced beforehand
> > > that she was making a separate one for me w/o noodles. *When she
> > > arrived, she announced that she has used spaghetti squash instead of
> > > the noodles. *Why the F--k hadn't she just left out the noodles and
> > > not put in goddamned SQUASH. *I told her that I wouldn't eat such a
> > > thing. *It's OK anyway, since I had already had a big lunch, 3 duck
> > > wings and some of my wife's cashew chicken. *The cashew chicken had
> > > cornstarch in it, so by my rules I had to go to the gym and do one set
> > > of at least 10 reps on all 18 machines, with enough weight that it
> > > hurt. *I figure if I eat too much carb, I burn it off right away
> > > before my body gets a chance to know it's there. *Kinda like feeding a
> > > stray dog, in that I don't want my body to start expecting excess
> > > glucose. *I still have 3 more duck wings left.
>
> > > --Bryan
>
> > It was kind of her to bring something - couldn't you just let it go at
> > that?
>
> Bryan is a social oaf, as am I often. I think those who know and love
> Bryan take that into account and cut him slack. I know it took me a
> long time to learn this about him, and I often forget and find myself
> in positions to "get my feelings hurt" when he apparently demonstrates
> no concern for my feelings. I've learned to remind myself though, and
> I'm an adult and can take care of my own feelings.

I'm also not an oaf, as I know *how* to emulate social niceties, and
am
quite good at it *when I am on someone else's time*.
>
> It's not that Bryan *doesn't* care about others' feelings, it's that
> he cares a lot more about his own (and we ALL do!) and forgets to show
> "sufficient" concern for anyone else's feelings often. I know, I have
> the same problem! That's why so many here killfile me.

It's not even really that. I just don't coddle emotional weaklings,
and don't
expect anyone to coddle me. If I do something in a crappy way, I
don't
want to be lied to by people who are trying to baby my feelings. That
sort of crap just fosters more and more mediocrity and ignorance.

My sister's feeling were not hurt. She is not an emotional weakling.
>
> John Kuthe...

--Bryan

On Dec 8, 9:09*am, "jmcquown" > wrote:
> "Pico Rico" > wrote in message
>
> ...
>
> > "Bryan" > wrote in message
> ....
> > On Dec 7, 6:20 pm, Ema Nymton > wrote:
> >> On 12/7/2011 5:48 PM, spamtrap1888 wrote:
>
> >> > Spaghetti squash is an excellent and tasty substitute for pasta for
> >> > those trying to avoid simple carbs. We'll steam it to eat with tomato
> >> > sauce or with meat sauce. Scratching it lengthwise with a fork
> >> > produces the "spaghetti" effect.
>
> >> Eggplant is another good substitute for pasta.
>
> > I don't see the need for substitutes,
>
> It's the whole "low" (or no) carbing thing. *I don't see the need for that,
> either.
>
> I'm not a fan of spaghetti squash (but I like most squash in general). *She
> did say she was going to bring him something that didn't involve noodles. *I
> don't know why he was surprised. *Lasagna without some sort of layering (be
> it noodles, squash or eggplant) is just meat in tomato sauce with ricotta
> and mozarella. *Yeah, give me a big bowl of that! LOL

Indeed. I have made that for myself lots of times, but with
mushrooms, ripe
olives, spinach, and bell peppers. A lovely casserole. In fact, I'd
like two big
bowls of that!
>
> Jill

--Bryan

On Dec 8, 9:46*am, Bryan > wrote:
....
>
> Indeed. *I have made that for myself lots of times, but with
> mushrooms, ripe
> olives, spinach, and bell peppers. *A lovely casserole. *In fact, I'd
> like two big
> bowls of that!
>
>
>
> > Jill
>
> --Bryan

Just *one* big bowl, you over-eating mamby, you!

Hey Bryan! I've got a Groupon worth $30 at Momo's, the Greek place?
Wanna go sometime? Either you and I alone or or you and your beautiful
family too? Call me, I'm available muchly lately.


John Kuthe...

On Dec 8, 8:51*am, "Paul M. Cook" > wrote:
> "Bryan" > wrote in message
>
> ...
> On Dec 7, 11:55 pm, "Paul M. Cook" > wrote:
>
>
> > You owe her an apology, even
> > if she was not surprised by your oafish behavior.
>
> She's as thick skinned as me, and can dish it out as well as take it.
> Her attitude was, "your loss." *An apology would be seen as a bit
> absurd.
>
> OK, so you probably punched her goodbye when she left? *Or did you just
> slash her tires? *I picture a Saturday Night Live skit ...

We hugged goodbye. I didn't take it personally, and neither did she.
We are not emotional weaklings.
>
> Paul

--Bryan

On Dec 8, 9:51*am, John Kuthe > wrote:
> On Dec 8, 9:46*am, Bryan > wrote:
> ...
>
>
>
> > Indeed. *I have made that for myself lots of times, but with
> > mushrooms, ripe
> > olives, spinach, and bell peppers. *A lovely casserole. *In fact, I'd
> > like two big
> > bowls of that!
>
> > > Jill
>
> > --Bryan
>
> Just *one* big bowl, you over-eating mamby, you!
>
> Hey Bryan! I've got a Groupon worth $30 at Momo's, the Greek place?
> Wanna go sometime? Either you and I alone or or you and your beautiful
> family too? Call me, I'm available muchly lately.

Be great sometime. I adore their food. What evenings are you off.
The food deliveries last through next Wednesday, so soon is good.
>
> John Kuthe...

--Bryan

On Dec 8, 9:42*am, Bryan > wrote:
....
>
> It's not even really that. *I just don't coddle emotional weaklings,
> and don't
> expect anyone to coddle me. *If I do something in a crappy way, I
> don't
> want to be lied to by people who are trying to baby my feelings. *That
> sort of crap just fosters more and more mediocrity and ignorance.
>
> My sister's feeling were not hurt. *She is not an emotional weakling.
....

Truedat, almost entirely. I'll eluciate the "almost" sometime in
private.

John Kuthe...

On Dec 8, 9:55*am, Bryan > wrote:
> On Dec 8, 9:51*am, John Kuthe > wrote:
....
>
> > Hey Bryan! I've got a Groupon worth $30 at Momo's, the Greek place?
> > Wanna go sometime? Either you and I alone or or you and your beautiful
> > family too? Call me, I'm available muchly lately.
>
> Be great sometime. *I adore their food. *What evenings are you off.
> The food deliveries last through next Wednesday, so soon is good.
....

I emailed you.

John Kuthe...

On 12/8/2011 9:42 AM, Bryan wrote:
> If I do something in a crappy way, I
> don't
> want to be lied to by people who are trying to baby my feelings.

Your sister tried to do something nice for you and you acted like a jerk.

People who pride themselves on this kind of 'in your face honesty" are
trying to justify the fact that they are socially inept.

It is about emotional maturity and your lack of it.

George L

On Dec 7, 9:10*pm, Dave Smith > wrote:

*Breakfast
> was mush...... a mixture, oatmeal, cream of wheat various other grains.
> * That was okay for me because I like hot cereal, but I wouldn't want it
> every day like her kids had to endure.

Gee - doesn't that beat plopping Fruit Loops in front of the kids
every mawnin? Granted - bland but at least nourishing, no?

On Dec 8, 5:10Â*am, Bryan > wrote:
> On Dec 7, 10:22Â*pm, spamtrap1888 > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
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>
>
>
> > On Dec 7, 6:11Â*pm, dsi1 > wrote:
>
> > > On 12/7/2011 3:38 PM, Felice wrote:
>
> > > >>> On 12/7/2011 1:22 PM, Bryan wrote:
> > > >>>> People are taking turns bringing over dinner to be helpful while
> > > >>>> Betsy recovers. My sister was bringing lasagna, and announced
> > > >>>> beforehand that she was making a separate one for me w/o noodles..
> > > >>>> When she arrived, she announced that she has used spaghetti
> > > >>>> squash
> > > >>>> instead of the noodles. Why the F--k hadn't she just left out the
> > > >>>> noodles and not put in goddamned SQUASH. I told her that I
> > > >>>> wouldn't eat such a thing.<snip>
>
> > > > OK, Bryan, repeat after me:
>
> > > > "Gee, thanks, Sis. That looks great. I'm not very hungry now so I
> > > > think I'll save it for later when I have a better appetite."
>
> > > > Now stand in front of a mirror and keep saying that until you can do
> > > > it with a straight face.
>
> > > > Felice
>
> > > Poor Bryan - never learned how to lie straight-faced eye to eye. A lady
> > > gave me a picture of a kid lying down with a lion and a lamb. The lion
> > > and the kid have huge watery eyes that look straight at you. The lamb
> > > has regular eyes for some reason. Maybe because it's on the side of it's
> > > head.
>
> > > I told her thanks and that I'd have to find a place to hang it up and
> > > she left happy but frankly, that thing gives me the heebie-jeebies. I'm
> > > still thinking about where to hang it but you know that lying is just a
> > > great skill to have!
>
> Once you establish that you are a liar, no one should believe a single
> thing
> that spews from your maw.
>
>
>
> > Garage, basement, attic, all are good places. Explain it inspires you
> > as you (1) change the oil, (2) fold the laundry, (3) get down the
> > Christmas stuff.
>
> In other words, lie.

Nay, tell the truth. Viewing the picture inspired the poster because
it stimulated him to perform the unusual activity of hanging it where
it would seldom be seen. (Usually, one would hang a picture where it
would often be seen.) Check your dictionary:

World English Dictionary
inspiration (ˌɪnspɪˈreɪʃən) [Click for IPA pronunciation guide]

€” n
1. stimulation or arousal of the mind, feelings, etc, to special or
unusual activity or creativity

On Dec 8, 4:43*am, Bryan > wrote:
> On Dec 7, 8:12*pm, spamtrap1888 > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Dec 7, 5:10*pm, Bryan > wrote:
>
> > > On Dec 7, 6:50*pm, dsi1 > wrote:
>
> > > > On 12/7/2011 1:22 PM, Bryan wrote:
>
> > > > > People are taking turns bringing over dinner to be helpful while Betsy
> > > > > recovers. *My sister was bringing lasagna, and announced beforehand
> > > > > that she was making a separate one for me w/o noodles. *When she
> > > > > arrived, she announced that she has used spaghetti squash instead of
> > > > > the noodles. *Why the F--k hadn't she just left out the noodles and
> > > > > not put in goddamned SQUASH. *I told her that I wouldn't eat such a
> > > > > thing. *It's OK anyway, since I had already had a big lunch, 3 duck
> > > > > wings and some of my wife's cashew chicken. *The cashew chicken had
> > > > > cornstarch in it, so by my rules I had to go to the gym and do one set
> > > > > of at least 10 reps on all 18 machines, with enough weight that it
> > > > > hurt. *I figure if I eat too much carb, I burn it off right away
> > > > > before my body gets a chance to know it's there. *Kinda like feeding a
> > > > > stray dog, in that I don't want my body to start expecting excess
> > > > > glucose. *I still have 3 more duck wings left.
>
> > > > > --Bryan
>
> > > > That bitch!!!
>
> > > No. *More like, "Think, Susan. *You know I don't eat squash." *I
> > > wasn't hostile to
> > > her, partly because she has had a bad memory since she was a
> > > teenager. *We
> > > love each other so much that I get along with her in spite of her
> > > fascist leanings.
>
> > Fascist? Bryan's sister seems to have the open flexible attitude I
> > associate with liberals, because she considers the needs of others,
> > and goes out of her way to thoughtfully meet them.
>
> You have to be smart enough to know that one's philosophy on
> political economy doesn't correlate much with how one gets along with
> ones family.
> "Fascism is an economic system in which corporations, or the
> wealthy elite, are essentially the government and vice versa."
> * * *--sourcehttp://askville.amazon.com/wealthy-people-attracted-fascism-early-mid...

If your sister is a wealthy elite, her sacrifice by cooking you food
that met your dietary requirements -- if not your childish pickiness
-- was all the more remarkable. All the more so if she was a
corporation. (I've heard of corporate personality -- hers seems
unusually kind and generous. Perhaps she's a non-profit corporation?)


>
> > Whereas Bryan is some bigoted Anticucurbite.
>
> I like watermelons and pickled cucumbers.
>
A few exceptions don't invalidate the general rule.

On Dec 7, 7:21*pm, Bryan > wrote:
> On Dec 7, 5:34*pm, > wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Dec 7, 3:22*pm, Bryan > wrote:
>
> > > People are taking turns bringing over dinner to be helpful while Betsy
> > > recovers. *My sister was bringing lasagna, and announced beforehand> > that she was making a separateonefor me w/o noodles. *When she> > arrived, she announced that she has used spaghetti squash insteadof> >thenoodles. *WhytheF--k hadn't she just left outthenoodles and
> > > not put in goddamned SQUASH. *I told her that I wouldn't eat such a
> > > thing. *It's OK anyway, since I had already had a big lunch, 3 duck> > wings and someofmy wife's cashew chicken.*Thecashew chicken had> > cornstarch in it, so by my rules I had to go tothegym and dooneset> >ofat least 10 reps on all 18 machines, with enough weight that it> > hurt. *I figure if I eat too much carb, I burn itoff right away> > before my body gets a chance to know it'sthere. *Kinda like feeding a
> > > stray dog, in that I don't want my body to start expecting excess
> > > glucose. *I still have 3 more duck wings left.
>
> > > --Bryan
>
> > Be happy you have a sister....
>
> I am. *I have two sisters, and she'stheoneI like, in spiteofthe
> fact that sheis a Republican. *I have two brothers too. *I seldom see eitherofthem. *I don'tdislikethem, but we have little in common.*Theoldestoneis very
> funny, and
> when I do see him--because I am friends with his daughter--we have
> some laughs,but I dislike his wife.*Themiddle brother (I amtheyoungest
> sibling) has becomea fundie Christian, and is just weird. *I really should invitethetwobrothers to
> hang out sometime because it might be interesting.
>
> --Bryan

note how the state has made you think lesser of your sister because
she's GOP. divide and conquer.

"Dave Smith" > wrote in message
...
> On 07/12/2011 8:27 PM, Dimitri wrote:
>>
>> BTW my SIL gave us a breakfast drink recipe that called for 2
>> tablespoons of OAK bran.
>
>
> She sounds like my former SiL.... my wife's late brother's ex-wife. We
> went up to help them with the ski chalet they were building. Breakfast
> was mush...... a mixture, oatmeal, cream of wheat various other grains.
> That was okay for me because I like hot cereal, but I wouldn't want it
> every day like her kids had to endure.
>
> After working hard all morning we went in for lunch..... slice of hard
> boiled eggs over plain yoghurt.

"Late" brother? Sounds like that cooking was lethal!

Bryan wrote:
>
> Squash is a weird thing to put in lasagna.

I'm not sure if zuchinni is consided a squash (?) but one year a friend of
mine gave me a giant bag of zuchinni from her garden. Not knowing what to
do with all that, I just invented a zuchinni lasagna and it turned out
fantastic.

Just substitute zuchinna slices for the lasagna noodles in your favorite
lasagna recipe. I like the one on the back of the San Giorgio lasagna
noodle box.

"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> Bryan wrote:
>>
>> Squash is a weird thing to put in lasagna.
>
> I'm not sure if zuchinni is consided a squash (?) but one year a friend of
> mine gave me a giant bag of zuchinni from her garden. Not knowing what to
> do with all that, I just invented a zuchinni lasagna and it turned out
> fantastic.
>
> Just substitute zuchinna slices for the lasagna noodles in your favorite
> lasagna recipe. I like the one on the back of the San Giorgio lasagna
> noodle box.

Sounds like a variant of ratatouille

Kalmia wrote:
>
> On Dec 7, 6:22 pm, Bryan > wrote:
> > People are taking turns bringing over dinner to be helpful while Betsy
> > recovers. My sister was bringing lasagna, and announced beforehand
> > that she was making a separate one for me w/o noodles. When she
> > arrived, she announced that she has used spaghetti squash instead of
> > the noodles. Why the F--k hadn't she just left out the noodles and
> > not put in goddamned SQUASH. I told her that I wouldn't eat such a
> > thing. It's OK anyway, since I had already had a big lunch, 3 duck
> > wings and some of my wife's cashew chicken. The cashew chicken had
> > cornstarch in it, so by my rules I had to go to the gym and do one set
> > of at least 10 reps on all 18 machines, with enough weight that it
> > hurt. I figure if I eat too much carb, I burn it off right away
> > before my body gets a chance to know it's there. Kinda like feeding a
> > stray dog, in that I don't want my body to start expecting excess
> > glucose. I still have 3 more duck wings left.
> >
> > --Bryan
>
> It was kind of her to bring something - couldn't you just let it go at
> that?

I agree. Learn some social skills while you finish your duck wings. Try
some duck penis next time. ;-o

Bryan wrote:
>
> We hugged goodbye. I didn't take it personally, and neither did she.
> We are not emotional weaklings.

I'd love to here her opinion of the evening. Stupid ass rude brother?