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My mom gave me one for Christmas last year, and it
was okay but I was thinking about dumping it because I prefer my regular kitchen knife. The ceramic one had a straight blade and I'm used to the curve of a conventional kitchen knife. The ceramic knife did seem to be plenty sharp. About a week ago I lost it. I think it fell in the trash. Because I was already thinking about throwing it away, it didn't seem to be a significant loss. But then there was a sale on pineapples at the nearby Asian food store. The first time in a year that I tried peeling a pineapple with a steel knife the difference was very noticable. Even freshly sharpened, the steel knife didn't do nearly as well going through pineapple skin. I had been using the spiral method of removing the eyes with the ceramic knife, but that was just too difficult with the steel knife. So I bought a new ceramic knife. This one does have a curved blade. On my first pineapple with this knife, I could tell it was even sharper than the old one. I've only had it a little while, but it already seems to be a great knife. It's made in China, and it's called THE CERABLADE, or at least that's what's printed on the blade. I bought it at the Asian food store for $21. They had two smaller sizes that were cheaper, but I thought I should get what I wanted rather than save a couple bucks and live in misery for the rest of my life. There wasn't any sale or discount, so I imagine that price can be beaten on the net. I do take care not to drop it or use it on any hard surface. The edge only sees fruit and a wooden cutting board. Only cut myself once so far. On the first day I had it, it was sitting edge-up in my dish rack when I accidently dropped a pistachio in the vicinity. When I reached down to hunt for it, my arm lightly brushed against it and got cut. I barely felt it, but it sure bled for a while. I'm a little more careful now. |
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On 12/9/2011 9:32 PM, Mark Thorson wrote:
> My mom gave me one for Christmas last year, and it > was okay but I was thinking about dumping it because > I prefer my regular kitchen knife. The ceramic one > had a straight blade and I'm used to the curve of > a conventional kitchen knife. The ceramic knife > did seem to be plenty sharp. > > About a week ago I lost it. I think it fell in the > trash. Because I was already thinking about throwing > it away, it didn't seem to be a significant loss. > > But then there was a sale on pineapples at the nearby > Asian food store. The first time in a year that I > tried peeling a pineapple with a steel knife the > difference was very noticable. Even freshly sharpened, > the steel knife didn't do nearly as well going through > pineapple skin. I had been using the spiral method > of removing the eyes with the ceramic knife, but that > was just too difficult with the steel knife. > > So I bought a new ceramic knife. This one does have > a curved blade. On my first pineapple with this knife, > I could tell it was even sharper than the old one. > I've only had it a little while, but it already seems > to be a great knife. It's made in China, and it's > called THE CERABLADE, or at least that's what's printed > on the blade. I bought it at the Asian food store for > $21. They had two smaller sizes that were cheaper, > but I thought I should get what I wanted rather than > save a couple bucks and live in misery for the rest > of my life. There wasn't any sale or discount, so > I imagine that price can be beaten on the net. > > I do take care not to drop it or use it on any hard > surface. The edge only sees fruit and a wooden cutting > board. Only cut myself once so far. On the first day > I had it, it was sitting edge-up in my dish rack when > I accidently dropped a pistachio in the vicinity. When > I reached down to hunt for it, my arm lightly brushed > against it and got cut. I barely felt it, but it sure > bled for a while. I'm a little more careful now. Personally, I beware of any product "made in China"!!! There's no telling what manufacturing process or 'ingredients' used that included in their products! Just think of all those toy products that were recalled (who can count?!) because they were contaminated with high levels of lead and other toxic materials, etc.! Regardless, I'm not surprised the ceramic knife performed so well. Anywho, my point is I recently saw a rerun(?) the other day of "How It's Made" (or something like that) on one of the sat/cable channels regarding the "Kyocera" ceramic knives. I was impressed with the process used to manufacture Kyocera knives! One issue I learned was 'ceramic' cannot be picked up by metal detectors at airports and other points of security! So, Kyocera purposely implants enough minute metal elements into their ceramic knives so they 'can' be detected by metal detectors (smart!). From watching the show, I learned that ceramic knives are vastly different than fine stainless steel knives in that they will not absorb/adsorb (whichever!) odors or oils and subsequently impart unwanted flavors to other foods later sliced. Because of this 'feature,' sushi 'chefs' (proper term?) prefer to use ceramic knives! Sky, who's feeling a bit 'jonesy' :> -- Ultra Ultimate Kitchen Rule - Use the Timer! Ultimate Kitchen Rule -- Cook's Choice!! |
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![]() "Mark Thorson" <> wrote > My mom gave me one for Christmas last year, and it > was okay but I was thinking about dumping it because > I prefer my regular kitchen knife. The ceramic one > had a straight blade and I'm used to the curve of > a conventional kitchen knife. The ceramic knife > did seem to be plenty sharp. > > About a week ago I lost it. I think it fell in the > trash. Because I was already thinking about throwing > it away, it didn't seem to be a significant loss. > > But then there was a sale on pineapples at the nearby > Asian food store. The first time in a year that I > tried peeling a pineapple with a steel knife the > difference was very noticable. Even freshly sharpened, > the steel knife didn't do nearly as well going through > pineapple skin. I had been using the spiral method > of removing the eyes with the ceramic knife, but that > was just too difficult with the steel knife. > > So I bought a new ceramic knife. This one does have > a curved blade. On my first pineapple with this knife, > I could tell it was even sharper than the old one. > I've only had it a little while, but it already seems > to be a great knife. It's made in China, and it's > called THE CERABLADE, or at least that's what's printed > on the blade. I bought it at the Asian food store for > $21. They had two smaller sizes that were cheaper, > but I thought I should get what I wanted rather than > save a couple bucks and live in misery for the rest > of my life. There wasn't any sale or discount, so > I imagine that price can be beaten on the net. > > I do take care not to drop it or use it on any hard > surface. The edge only sees fruit and a wooden cutting > board. Only cut myself once so far. On the first day > I had it, it was sitting edge-up in my dish rack when > I accidently dropped a pistachio in the vicinity. When > I reached down to hunt for it, my arm lightly brushed > against it and got cut. I barely felt it, but it sure > bled for a while. I'm a little more careful now. Waaaah! Never, Ever put down anything sharp 'edge up'. Even our salad forks are placed tines down in the dishwasher. I can't imagine what sort of live critters Oneida was expecting us to toss in our salads when they designed Act I. Those forks are killer sharp and will do a world of hurt. Here on the bayou, 911 is too far away to be much help. Even if we lived beside the hospital, the visit would be painful and expensive. Mark, does your Mom know you're not careful enough? I'm telling. Polly |
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On Dec 9, 10:32*pm, Mark Thorson > wrote:
> My mom gave me one for Christmas last year, and it > was okay but I was thinking about dumping it because > I prefer my regular kitchen knife. *The ceramic one > had a straight blade and I'm used to the curve of > a conventional kitchen knife. *The ceramic knife > did seem to be plenty sharp. > > About a week ago I lost it. *I think it fell in the > trash. *Because I was already thinking about throwing > it away, it didn't seem to be a significant loss. > > But then there was a sale on pineapples at the nearby > Asian food store. *The first time in a year that I > tried peeling a pineapple with a steel knife the > difference was very noticable. *Even freshly sharpened, > the steel knife didn't do nearly as well going through > pineapple skin. *I had been using the spiral method > of removing the eyes with the ceramic knife, but that > was just too difficult with the steel knife. > > So I bought a new ceramic knife. *This one does have > a curved blade. *On my first pineapple with this knife, > I could tell it was even sharper than the old one. > I've only had it a little while, but it already seems > to be a great knife. *It's made in China, and it's > called THE CERABLADE, or at least that's what's printed > on the blade. *I bought it at the Asian food store for > $21. *They had two smaller sizes that were cheaper, > but I thought I should get what I wanted rather than > save a couple bucks and live in misery for the rest > of my life. *There wasn't any sale or discount, so > I imagine that price can be beaten on the net. > > I do take care not to drop it or use it on any hard > surface. *The edge only sees fruit and a wooden cutting > board. *Only cut myself once so far. *On the first day > I had it, it was sitting edge-up in my dish rack when > I accidently dropped a pistachio in the vicinity. *When > I reached down to hunt for it, my arm lightly brushed > against it and got cut. *I barely felt it, but it sure > bled for a while. *I'm a little more careful now. The new one seems sharper because it is. A year from now, it will be like the one you just lost. Ceramic knives can be sharpened with a diamond stone or other stones also useful for carbide. Enjoy it! Jerry -- "I view the progress of science as being the slow erosion of the tendency to dichotomize." Barbara Smuts, U. Mich. ŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻ ŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻ |
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On Dec 9, 11:12*pm, Sky > wrote:
... > Regardless, I'm not surprised the ceramic knife performed so well. > Anywho, my point is I recently saw a rerun(?) the other day of "How It's > Made" (or something like that) on one of the sat/cable channels > regarding the "Kyocera" ceramic knives. *I was impressed with the > process used to manufacture Kyocera knives! *One issue I learned was > 'ceramic' cannot be picked up by metal detectors at airports and other > points of security! So, Kyocera purposely implants enough minute metal > elements into their ceramic knives so they 'can' be detected by metal > detectors (smart!). ... Steel, whether stainless or not, doesn't absorb odors. Some ceramics do, but not the high-fired ceramic that knives are made of. Think about it: can you imagine a piece of solid steep soaking up something that it was dipped into? Jerry -- "I view the progress of science as being the slow erosion of the tendency to dichotomize." Barbara Smuts, U. Mich. ŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻ ŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻ |
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On 12/9/2011 10:25 PM, Jerry Avins wrote:
> > Steel, whether stainless or not, doesn't absorb odors. Some ceramics > do, but not the high-fired ceramic that knives are made of. Think > about it: can you imagine a piece of solid steep soaking up something > that it was dipped into? The TV show specifically said that (stainless) steel knives will retain the flavors of various fish oils (when slicing to make sushi) and reiterated the ceramic knives do not. I can see how "oils" will make residues on steel and wouldn't on ceramics, especially when properly washed. I only reiterate what I 'learned' (?!) via watching a TV show on a reputable 'learning' channel --- yeah yeah -- I gotta take that with a grain of salt, too! Sky, who's no expert nor posed as one! -- Ultra Ultimate Kitchen Rule - Use the Timer! Ultimate Kitchen Rule -- Cook's Choice!! |
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![]() "Mark Thorson" > wrote in message ... > My mom gave me one for Christmas last year, and it > was okay but I was thinking about dumping it because > I prefer my regular kitchen knife. The ceramic one > had a straight blade and I'm used to the curve of > a conventional kitchen knife. The ceramic knife > did seem to be plenty sharp. > > About a week ago I lost it. I think it fell in the > trash. Because I was already thinking about throwing > it away, it didn't seem to be a significant loss. > > But then there was a sale on pineapples at the nearby > Asian food store. The first time in a year that I > tried peeling a pineapple with a steel knife the > difference was very noticable. Even freshly sharpened, > the steel knife didn't do nearly as well going through > pineapple skin. I had been using the spiral method > of removing the eyes with the ceramic knife, but that > was just too difficult with the steel knife. > > So I bought a new ceramic knife. This one does have > a curved blade. On my first pineapple with this knife, > I could tell it was even sharper than the old one. > I've only had it a little while, but it already seems > to be a great knife. It's made in China, and it's > called THE CERABLADE, or at least that's what's printed > on the blade. I bought it at the Asian food store for > $21. They had two smaller sizes that were cheaper, > but I thought I should get what I wanted rather than > save a couple bucks and live in misery for the rest > of my life. There wasn't any sale or discount, so > I imagine that price can be beaten on the net. > > I do take care not to drop it or use it on any hard > surface. The edge only sees fruit and a wooden cutting > board. Only cut myself once so far. On the first day > I had it, it was sitting edge-up in my dish rack when > I accidently dropped a pistachio in the vicinity. When > I reached down to hunt for it, my arm lightly brushed > against it and got cut. I barely felt it, but it sure > bled for a while. I'm a little more careful now. I have three inexpensive ceramic ones. First one bought online. The other two were bought at TJ Maxx. They're small. They're good. And I like that the ones I have came with sheaths so I can use them for travel. |
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![]() Mark Thorson wrote: > > My mom gave me one for Christmas last year, and it > was okay but I was thinking about dumping it because > I prefer my regular kitchen knife. The ceramic one > had a straight blade and I'm used to the curve of > a conventional kitchen knife. The ceramic knife > did seem to be plenty sharp. > > About a week ago I lost it. I think it fell in the > trash. Because I was already thinking about throwing > it away, it didn't seem to be a significant loss. > > But then there was a sale on pineapples at the nearby > Asian food store. The first time in a year that I > tried peeling a pineapple with a steel knife the > difference was very noticable. Even freshly sharpened, > the steel knife didn't do nearly as well going through > pineapple skin. I had been using the spiral method > of removing the eyes with the ceramic knife, but that > was just too difficult with the steel knife. > > So I bought a new ceramic knife. This one does have > a curved blade. On my first pineapple with this knife, > I could tell it was even sharper than the old one. > I've only had it a little while, but it already seems > to be a great knife. It's made in China, and it's > called THE CERABLADE, or at least that's what's printed > on the blade. I bought it at the Asian food store for > $21. They had two smaller sizes that were cheaper, > but I thought I should get what I wanted rather than > save a couple bucks and live in misery for the rest > of my life. There wasn't any sale or discount, so > I imagine that price can be beaten on the net. > > I do take care not to drop it or use it on any hard > surface. The edge only sees fruit and a wooden cutting > board. Only cut myself once so far. On the first day > I had it, it was sitting edge-up in my dish rack when > I accidently dropped a pistachio in the vicinity. When > I reached down to hunt for it, my arm lightly brushed > against it and got cut. I barely felt it, but it sure > bled for a while. I'm a little more careful now. A while back I noted that Harbor Freight carries several ceramic kitchen knives ranging from about $6-$11 when on sale that work well and are an excellent way to try out ceramic knives without much investment. Don't drop or pry with them and they do just fine. They also don't react with acidic foods like good carbon steel knives will. |
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Sky wrote:
> > Regardless, I'm not surprised the ceramic knife performed so well. > Anywho, my point is I recently saw a rerun(?) the other day of "How It's > Made" (or something like that) on one of the sat/cable channels > regarding the "Kyocera" ceramic knives. I was impressed with the > process used to manufacture Kyocera knives! One issue I learned was > 'ceramic' cannot be picked up by metal detectors at airports and other > points of security! So, Kyocera purposely implants enough minute metal > elements into their ceramic knives so they 'can' be detected by metal > detectors (smart!). Ceramic knives have become cheap enough to treat them like junk blades. When they break trash them and pull one of the spares out of the drawer. Amazing how the market for them went from a high tech speciality product to economy of scale mass manufacturing in a coupleof decades. Maybe they should be called "jewel knives" because their material is a synethic gem. The name would parallel "jewel watches". |
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On Fri, 9 Dec 2011 22:13:23 -0600, "Polly Esther"
> wrote: snip > >Waaaah! Never, Ever put down anything sharp 'edge up'. Even our salad >forks are placed tines down in the dishwasher. snip .. Polly Everyone here is taught to put any sharp utensil in the last, at the back, utensil basket. That way, anyone unloading the dishwasher know where to expect sharps. I am not a fan of putting pokey/sharp things sharp side down in the basket. They often ruin the basket bottom or stick through far enough to snag the passing washer arm. Janet US |
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Janet Bostwick wrote:
> > Everyone here is taught to put any sharp utensil in the last, at the > back, utensil basket. That way, anyone unloading the dishwasher know > where to expect sharps. I am not a fan of putting pokey/sharp things > sharp side down in the basket. They often ruin the basket bottom or > stick through far enough to snag the passing washer arm. No, I'm going to continue to put my ceramic knife in the dishrack sharp edge up, and bitch about it here every time I cut myself. I'm like John Kuthe that way. |
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On Sat, 10 Dec 2011 14:41:48 -0800, Mark Thorson >
wrote: >Janet Bostwick wrote: >> >> Everyone here is taught to put any sharp utensil in the last, at the >> back, utensil basket. That way, anyone unloading the dishwasher know >> where to expect sharps. I am not a fan of putting pokey/sharp things >> sharp side down in the basket. They often ruin the basket bottom or >> stick through far enough to snag the passing washer arm. > >No, I'm going to continue to put my ceramic knife >in the dishrack sharp edge up, and bitch about it here >every time I cut myself. I'm like John Kuthe that way. I never suggested that anyone put their preparation knives in the dishwasher (upside or downside). I was only talking about the other sharp and pokey things that we use that do go into the dishwasher. Now don't make me worry about you. Be good and don't put your sharp knives in the dishwasher ![]() Janet US |
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Janet Bostwick wrote:
> > I never suggested that anyone put their preparation knives in the > dishwasher (upside or downside). I was only talking about the other > sharp and pokey things that we use that do go into the dishwasher. Now > don't make me worry about you. Be good and don't put your sharp > knives in the dishwasher ![]() I don't have a dishwasher. The dish rack is for drying. |
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![]() Question: When it does get dull (and in some time frame it must), how does one sharpen it? -- Rik -- Rik Brown Share your experiences in the forums, blogs, videos, and online community at 'TRAVEL.COM' (http://www.TRAVEL.com). Message Origin: http://www.travel.com |
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Rik Brown wrote:
> >Question: When it does get dull (and in some time frame it must), how >does one sharpen it? It goes back to the manufacturer and gets honed with a diamond lap. But they typically break before they dull so the manufacturer isn't called upon to redress too many... and most likely they simply send a new one and discard your dulled one, that remedy costs less because the company who sold it very likely would need to send it back to the manufacturer and they are probably in China. |
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On Dec 13, 4:34*pm, Brooklyn1 <Gravesend1> wrote:
> Rik Brown wrote: > > >Question: When it does get dull (and in some time frame it must), how > >does one sharpen it? > > It goes back to the manufacturer and gets honed with a diamond lap. > But they typically break before they dull so the manufacturer isn't > called upon to redress too many... and most likely they simply send a > new one and discard your dulled one, that remedy costs less because > the company who sold it very likely would need to send it back to the > manufacturer and they are probably in China. Disposable ceramic knives. Yup! Just like everything else in the world today. :-( John Kuthe... |
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![]() "Dave Smith" <> I have three of them, including one that I had bought for my mother on > Christmas and reclaimed after she died. They are handy for some things > but If I had to choose between steel or ceramic, there is no doubt that I > would opt for steel. > My ceramic knife that I paid dearly for went into the trash bin long, long ago. The tip broke off when I was cutting the core from a ripe tomato. For crying out loud - it's not like I was using it to dig bubble gum out of the sidewalk. Tramontina (Brazil) made my best go-to paring knife. I can sharpen it myself without having to ship it to China. It is a fine, fine tool. Polly |
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On Tue, 13 Dec 2011 12:34:35 -0600, Rik Brown
> wrote: >Question: When it does get dull (and in some time frame it must), how >does one sharpen it? -- Rik With a diamond stone. Some companies, like Kyocera, include lifetime sharpening in the original sales price. -- Larry |
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![]() Larry: I've been thinking about trying one for years. I guess I'll give one a try. Thanks. -- Rik -- Rik Brown Share your experiences in the forums, blogs, videos, and online community at 'TRAVEL.COM' (http://www.TRAVEL.com). Message Origin: http://www.travel.com |
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On Dec 14, 9:46*am, Rik Brown <Rik.Brown.54r...@no-
mx.forums.travel.com> wrote: > Larry: I've been thinking about trying one for years. I guess I'll give > one a try. Thanks. -- Rik > > -- > Rik Brown > If you've never used a ceramic knife it's certainly worth trying. I would recommend getting a good brand such as Kyacera. Personally I don't like them. I prefer a bit more weight to my knives. But knife feel is very personal. You may love them. |
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On 14/12/2011 6:52 PM, Helpful person wrote:
> If you've never used a ceramic knife it's certainly worth trying. I > would recommend getting a good brand such as Kyacera. > > Personally I don't like them. I prefer a bit more weight to my > knives. But knife feel is very personal. You may love them. They are not my first choice all round knife, but if I have a nice ripe tomato to slice ceramic is my first choice. |
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On Dec 14, 4:03*pm, Dave Smith
> > They are not my first choice all round knife, but if I have a nice ripe > tomato to slice ceramic is my first choice. A good application. However, I usually have a steel knife out and don't like using too many different knives at once. (Too much clean up.) But my ceramic Santoko would do a good job. |
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In article <99a3cd1c-a7f2-425c-8aa1-cd0c7a87a386
@f33g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>, says... > > On Dec 14, 9:46*am, Rik Brown <Rik.Brown.54r...@no- > mx.forums.travel.com> wrote: > > Larry: I've been thinking about trying one for years. I guess I'll give > > one a try. Thanks. -- Rik > > > > -- > > Rik Brown > > > If you've never used a ceramic knife it's certainly worth trying. I > would recommend getting a good brand such as Kyacera. > > Personally I don't like them. I prefer a bit more weight to my > knives. But knife feel is very personal. You may love them. Bed Bath and Beyond had a set of two on sale for something like 15 bucks a while back. I decided to give them a try. I use them quite a lot now. But they do need an occasional stroke with the diamond stone. |
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On Wed, 14 Dec 2011 19:04:52 -0600, BubbaBob
> wrote: wrote: > >> Some companies, like Kyocera, include lifetime sharpening in the >> original sales price. > >Kyocera charges $15 + shipping for sharpening. It must be you. Mine has free lifetime sharpening. 8 ![]() But then its also a Ming Tsai model. -- Larry |
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Rik Brown wrote:
> > Question: When it does get dull (and in some time frame it must), Ceramic blades are made from the same mineral as sapphire. As long as you only use them to cut food it is not true that they must eventually get dull. This is a bit like saying that the anodized coating on pans will never wear out - It's true as long as you never abuse them. So how do you make a ceramic blade dull? By abusing them. Otherwise they do not get dull. |
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On Fri, 16 Dec 2011 17:30:48 +0000 (UTC), Doug Freyburger
> wrote: > As long as you don't use it to cut bones it will stay sharp for many > years. Read the directions. They say don't cut bones. I would also imagine that the surface you use to cut on will affect blade sharpness, so use a mat or cutting board instead of doing it directly on the granite counter. -- Ham and eggs. A day's work for a chicken, a lifetime commitment for a pig. |
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On Wed, 14 Dec 2011 19:05:40 -0600, BubbaBob
> wrote: >James Silverton > wrote: > >> On 12/14/2011 12:46 PM, Rik Brown wrote: >>> Larry: I've been thinking about trying one for years. I guess I'll give >>> one a try. Thanks. -- Rik >>> >>> >> You might look at Bed, Bath and Beyond. As I mentioned previously, >> ceramic knives are ridiculously cheap. >> > >The cheap ones aren't the good ones. I sort-of agree with you. We bought an as-seen-on-TV ceramic knife with FREE*** ceramic peeler. It's not as good as our best steel knife but it stays sharp better than any of our knives. One thing at which the ceramic excels is cutting raw meat. [A boneless pork loin is $2 a pound when on sale, while chops cut from these loins are $4.59 a pound(!!). So I cut my own chops.] The ceramic seems to stick to the meat much less than steel does. As the blade moves through the meat, the meat falls away from the blade. Less friction in the operation. The same is true for cutting raw chicken into bite-size pieces. As always YMMV. I haven't had to sharpen the knife but I've got several diamond stones that will do the job when the time comes. ***Worth precisely what we paid for it. ;-) -- Best -- Terry |
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On Tue, 20 Dec 2011 09:32:09 -0600 in rec.food.cooking, Terry
> wrote, >One thing at which the ceramic excels is cutting raw meat. Unless you hit a bone; then the knife is history. |
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On Thu, 22 Dec 2011 17:09:44 -0800, David Harmon >
wrote: > On Tue, 20 Dec 2011 09:32:09 -0600 in rec.food.cooking, Terry > > wrote, > >One thing at which the ceramic excels is cutting raw meat. > > Unless you hit a bone; then the knife is history. I think he was talking about boneless meat, if he wasn't he would have said so. -- Ham and eggs. A day's work for a chicken, a lifetime commitment for a pig. |
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