Will my ABM bread last longer if I store it in a cloth bag vs. a
ziplock?

I have some cute cotton material I could use to make a bag.....even
matches my kitchen ' decor'. (Man, how I hate that word - along with
'couture'.).

On Jan 9, 8:25*am, Kalmia > wrote:
> Will my ABM bread last longer if I store it in a cloth bag vs. a
> ziplock?
>
> I have some cute cotton material I could use to make a bag.....even
> matches my kitchen ' decor'. (Man, how I hate that word - along with
> 'couture'.).

Bread will "last longer" when stored airtight and refrigerated. It
will also alter the physical character of the bread, but it will
inhibit mold growth (the refrigeration) and prevent drying out (the
airtightness.)

I buy my extra large sourdough loaf "not sliced and in a plastic bag,
please" and I store it in my refrigerator and it lasts until I eat it
all. The crust gets softer, which is the physical characteristic
change I referred to. I've gotten lectured by the people up at STL
BreadCo (Panera) about this, because they pride themselves on freshly
baked bread daily where the crust is kinda tough possibly crispy and
the crumb is just moist enough and tender. And I have to tell them
that I realize what I'm doing "ruins" the characteristics of their
fresh baked bread, but this is what works for me.

John Kuthe...

On 01/09/2012 06:25 AM, Kalmia wrote:
> Will my ABM bread last longer if I store it in a cloth bag vs. a
> ziplock?
>
> I have some cute cotton material I could use to make a bag.....even
> matches my kitchen ' decor'. (Man, how I hate that word - along with
> 'couture'.).

Didn't make ours last longer, though you could put it away before it was
completely cooled and it wouldn't get damp. The one problem with the
bags for me was that I bake my ABM bread in a buttered loaf pan, and the
small amount of butter that came into contact with the bags made the
bags smell bad. Shame, because they were so pretty! Carin made them for
me, with embroidery on them. It was sad to lose them.

Serene

--
http://www.momfoodproject.com

"Kalmia" > wrote in message
...
> Will my ABM bread last longer if I store it in a cloth bag vs. a
> ziplock?
>
> I have some cute cotton material I could use to make a bag.....even
> matches my kitchen ' decor'. (Man, how I hate that word - along with
> 'couture'.).

I wouldn't think so. Cloth would let air in.

On Jan 9, 9:25*am, Kalmia > wrote:
> Will my ABM bread last longer if I store it in a cloth bag vs. a
> ziplock?
>
> I have some cute cotton material I could use to make a bag.....even
> matches my kitchen ' decor'. (Man, how I hate that word - along with
> 'couture'.).

I failed to say that I usually don't refrigerate it - it just sits in
the oven or on a counter in its ziplock. So far I have had few mold
problems as it's eaten within a few days. I turn the ends into crumbs
which I store in the freezer. Never could see buying crumbs.

"Kalmia" > ha scritto nel messaggio > Will my ABM
bread last longer if I store it in a cloth bag vs. a
> ziplock?
>
> I have some cute cotton material I could use to make a bag.....even
> matches my kitchen ' decor'.

I don't know, but the crust is nicer. We have bread bags that I buy for
friends in the US. They are useful for hearty loaves uncut, mostly. It's a
drawstring bag with two layers of cottom seoarated by a layer of holey
plastic. It can still mold eventually, and if it does it needs a good hot
water and detergent washing, hang on line. Or out the window or whatever
you do besides a dryer. A smaller version is for hard cheese which isn't
usually refrigerated.

On Jan 9, 6:25*am, Kalmia > wrote:
> Will my ABM bread last longer if I store it in a cloth bag vs. a
> ziplock?
>
> I have some cute cotton material I could use to make a bag.....even
> matches my kitchen ' decor'. (Man, how I hate that word - along with
> 'couture'.).

Freezing is the best way to preserve bread qualities. The second-best
way I ever found to store baked goods is in a wax paper bag, with the
end rolled up. This balances crispy crust against staling.

On Mon, 9 Jan 2012 06:25:57 -0800 (PST), Kalmia
> wrote:

>Will my ABM bread last longer if I store it in a cloth bag vs. a
>ziplock?
>
>I have some cute cotton material I could use to make a bag.....even
>matches my kitchen ' decor'. (Man, how I hate that word - along with
>'couture'.).
It depends on what you mean by lasting longer. If you are making a
lean bread (flour, water, yeast and salt only), a breathable container
will preserve the crust longer. If you are making an enriched dough
bread (contains any or all of the following, eggs, fat of some kind,
sugar and milk), a bag like a zip lock will do the best job.

If you can't eat all the bread before it becomes hard or dry or moldy,
the best thing would be to cut off a portion and freeze it. Staling
of bread is a chemical process that begins as soon as the bread leaves
the oven. There is nothing you can do to stop it. Refrigeration
speeds the staling process. Otherwise, freeze or package as
suggested. Some ingredients prolong bread life. Eggs, milk,
lecithin, potato flour and vitamin C.
Check 'Bread Staling Process' on the Internet. There is lots of
material.
Janet US

On Jan 9, 11:49*am, Janet Bostwick > wrote:
*If you are making a
> lean bread (flour, water, yeast and salt only), a breathable container
> will preserve the crust longer. *If you are making an enriched dough
> bread (contains any or all of the following, eggs, fat of some kind,
> sugar and milk), a bag like a zip lock will do the best job.
>

I just KNEW the answer wudn't be simple. This will be my rule of dumb
now. Thanks. I'll start stitching that bag today.

On 1/9/2012 10:58 AM, Giusi wrote:
> > ha scritto nel messaggio> Will my ABM
> bread last longer if I store it in a cloth bag vs. a
>> ziplock?
>>
>> I have some cute cotton material I could use to make a bag.....even
>> matches my kitchen ' decor'.
>
> I don't know, but the crust is nicer. We have bread bags that I buy for
> friends in the US. They are useful for hearty loaves uncut, mostly. It's a
> drawstring bag with two layers of cottom seoarated by a layer of holey
> plastic. It can still mold eventually, and if it does it needs a good hot
> water and detergent washing, hang on line. Or out the window or whatever
> you do besides a dryer. A smaller version is for hard cheese which isn't
> usually refrigerated.
>
I have a similar bread bag, a gift from a friend in Italy, but mine
doesn't appear to have plastic in the middle. I use it when my bread box
is too full. And yes, the crust is much nicer when not suffocated in a
plastic zip bag.

"Kalmia" > wrote in message
...
On Jan 9, 11:49 am, Janet Bostwick > wrote:
If you are making a
> lean bread (flour, water, yeast and salt only), a breathable container
> will preserve the crust longer. If you are making an enriched dough
> bread (contains any or all of the following, eggs, fat of some kind,
> sugar and milk), a bag like a zip lock will do the best job.
>

I just KNEW the answer wudn't be simple. This will be my rule of dumb
now. Thanks. I'll start stitching that bag today.

I bake 3 loaves of bread every week. Don't much care if it gets stale;
going to toast it anyway. My problem was keeping the bread from getting
mold. The best wrapper I've found is the sack from a Cheerio's box.
Completely cooling the bread seems to be important before sacking and
refrigerating or freezing. Polly

On 09/01/2012 11:12 AM, spamtrap1888 wrote:
> On Jan 9, 6:25 am, > wrote:
>> Will my ABM bread last longer if I store it in a cloth bag vs. a
>> ziplock?
>>
>> I have some cute cotton material I could use to make a bag.....even
>> matches my kitchen ' decor'. (Man, how I hate that word - along with
>> 'couture'.).
>
> Freezing is the best way to preserve bread qualities. The second-best
> way I ever found to store baked goods is in a wax paper bag, with the
> end rolled up. This balances crispy crust against staling.

I always freeze bread ASAP after purchase because we eat so little
bread. A loaf lasts us a week or two. A lot of it gets toasted, which
just means a few extra seconds in the toaster. Most of the rest is used
in sandwiches. I can make a sandwich with frozen bread slices and in a
couple minutes it is thawed and ready to eat.

"Dave Smith" > wrote in message
om...

> I always freeze bread ASAP after purchase because we eat so little bread.
> A loaf lasts us a week or two. A lot of it gets toasted, which just means
> a few extra seconds in the toaster. Most of the rest is used in
> sandwiches. I can make a sandwich with frozen bread slices and in a couple
> minutes it is thawed and ready to eat.

Yes, same here. Frozen is ready by the time you get the other stuff out.

Cheri

Kalmia wrote:
> Will my ABM bread last longer if I store it in a cloth bag vs. a
> ziplock?
>
> I have some cute cotton material I could use to make a bag.....even
> matches my kitchen ' decor'. (Man, how I hate that word - along with
> 'couture'.).

What's ABM bread?

-S-

On Jan 9, 2:45*pm, "Steve Freides" > wrote:
> Kalmia wrote:
> > Will my ABM bread last longer if I store it in a cloth bag vs. a
> > ziplock?
>
> > I have some cute cotton material I could use to make a bag.....even
> > matches my kitchen ' decor'. (Man, how I hate that word - along with
> > 'couture'.).
>
> What's ABM bread?
>
> -S-

Automatic Bread Machine as opposed to hand kneading.....

On Mon, 9 Jan 2012 11:56:02 -0600, "Polly Esther"
> wrote:

snip
>Completely cooling the bread seems to be important before sacking and
>refrigerating or freezing. Polly

Yes, complete cooling is very important. It is essentially part of
the baking process in that the starches complete gelatination (sp).
The crust becomes stable during this time. But also, cooling allows
moisture away from the crust and a damp crust would lead to moldiness.
Thankfully, I live in a dry climate and bread molds are a rarity.
Janet US

In article
>,
Kalmia > wrote:

> Will my ABM bread last longer if I store it in a cloth bag vs. a
> ziplock?
>
> I have some cute cotton material I could use to make a bag.....even
> matches my kitchen ' decor'. (Man, how I hate that word - along with
> 'couture'.).

I think it will dry out faster but will maintain a crisper crust than
had it been stored in a plastic bag.
--
Barb,
http://web.me.com/barbschaller September 5, 2011

On Mon, 9 Jan 2012 06:25:57 -0800 (PST), Kalmia
> wrote:

>Will my ABM bread last longer if I store it in a cloth bag vs. a
>ziplock?
>
>I have some cute cotton material I could use to make a bag.....even
>matches my kitchen ' decor'. (Man, how I hate that word - along with
>'couture'.).

The cotton will pass air and stale it quicker. My preference is a
paper bag. It will stale after a few days, but never gets mold. Once
stale it becomes breadcrumbs.

Plastic bags can work, but be sure it is cooled first. The downside
is, the crust will get soft in hours.

It is OK to freeze bread, but never put it in the fridge. It will dry
out faster there than any other place. If you Google storing bread,
it clearly is the least favorite place for bread.

On Mon, 09 Jan 2012 22:28:42 -0500, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

>On Mon, 9 Jan 2012 06:25:57 -0800 (PST), Kalmia
> wrote:
>
>>Will my ABM bread last longer if I store it in a cloth bag vs. a
>>ziplock?
>>
>>I have some cute cotton material I could use to make a bag.....even
>>matches my kitchen ' decor'. (Man, how I hate that word - along with
>>'couture'.).
>
>The cotton will pass air and stale it quicker. My preference is a
>paper bag. It will stale after a few days, but never gets mold. Once
>stale it becomes breadcrumbs.
>
>Plastic bags can work, but be sure it is cooled first. The downside
>is, the crust will get soft in hours.
>
>It is OK to freeze bread, but never put it in the fridge. It will dry
>out faster there than any other place. If you Google storing bread,
>it clearly is the least favorite place for bread.

I've found it depends on what kind of bread. Home made and good
bakery bread has a short shelf life even in a bread box, if not going
to consume it within two days it's best to freeze it. But plastic
bagged packaged breads from the stupidmarket refrigerate just fine...
if careful to take what you need without handling the rest, reseal,
and put it back in the fridge immediately it can keep for like two
weeks in the fridge without deteriorating. If you can buy this
company's products where you live I recommend you try them, they
contain no preservatives. I've tried them all and all are very good
but I do have my favorites, I typically have 2-3 loaves in my freezer
and one in my fridge. Since discovering this product I rarely bake
bread anymore and buy from bakeries only occasionally. There's a
store locator at their web site:
http://www.heidelbergbakingco.com/

On Jan 10, 11:58*am, Brooklyn1 <Gravesend1> wrote:
....
>
> I've found it depends on what kind of bread. *Home made and good
> bakery bread has a short shelf life even in a bread box, if not going
> to consume it within two days it's best to freeze it. *But plastic
> bagged packaged breads from the stupidmarket refrigerate just fine...
> if careful to take what you need without handling the rest, reseal,
> and put it back in the fridge immediately it can keep for like two
> weeks in the fridge without deteriorating. *If you can buy this
> company's products where you live I recommend you try them, they
> contain no preservatives. *I've tried them all and all are very good
> but I do have my favorites, I typically have 2-3 loaves in my freezer
> and one in my fridge. *Since discovering this product I rarely bake
> bread anymore and buy from bakeries only occasionally. *There's a
> store locator at their web site:http://www.heidelbergbakingco.com/

Yeah Sheldon, there's exactly ONE:

Heidelberg Bakery Store / Outlet
3056 State Route 28 North,
Herkimer, New York


I'm sure it's very good. So is STLBreadCO (Panera), and they have them
all over the country now.

John Kuthe...

On Tue, 10 Jan 2012 10:32:21 -0800 (PST), John Kuthe
> wrote:

>On Jan 10, 11:58*am, Brooklyn1 <Gravesend1> wrote:
>...
>>
>> I've found it depends on what kind of bread. *Home made and good
>> bakery bread has a short shelf life even in a bread box, if not going
>> to consume it within two days it's best to freeze it. *But plastic
>> bagged packaged breads from the stupidmarket refrigerate just fine...
>> if careful to take what you need without handling the rest, reseal,
>> and put it back in the fridge immediately it can keep for like two
>> weeks in the fridge without deteriorating. *If you can buy this
>> company's products where you live I recommend you try them, they
>> contain no preservatives. *I've tried them all and all are very good
>> but I do have my favorites, I typically have 2-3 loaves in my freezer
>> and one in my fridge. *Since discovering this product I rarely bake
>> bread anymore and buy from bakeries only occasionally. *There's a
>> store locator at their web site:
>> http://www.heidelbergbakingco.com/
>
>Yeah Sheldon, there's exactly ONE:
>
>Heidelberg Bakery Store / Outlet
>3056 State Route 28 North,
>Herkimer, New York

Click on products. It's regional distribution so it's only available
in stores within about a hundred mile radius, but a whole lot more
than one location.

On Jan 10, 5:04*pm, Brooklyn1 <Gravesend1> wrote:
> On Tue, 10 Jan 2012 10:32:21 -0800 (PST), John Kuthe
>
>
>
> > wrote:
> >On Jan 10, 11:58 am, Brooklyn1 <Gravesend1> wrote:
> >...
>
> >> I've found it depends on what kind of bread. Home made and good
> >> bakery bread has a short shelf life even in a bread box, if not going
> >> to consume it within two days it's best to freeze it. But plastic
> >> bagged packaged breads from the stupidmarket refrigerate just fine...
> >> if careful to take what you need without handling the rest, reseal,
> >> and put it back in the fridge immediately it can keep for like two
> >> weeks in the fridge without deteriorating. If you can buy this
> >> company's products where you live I recommend you try them, they
> >> contain no preservatives. I've tried them all and all are very good
> >> but I do have my favorites, I typically have 2-3 loaves in my freezer
> >> and one in my fridge. Since discovering this product I rarely bake
> >> bread anymore and buy from bakeries only occasionally. There's a
> >> store locator at their web site:
> >>http://www.heidelbergbakingco.com/
>
> >Yeah Sheldon, there's exactly ONE:
>
> >Heidelberg Bakery Store / Outlet
> >3056 State Route 28 North,
> >Herkimer, New York
>
> Click on products. *It's regional distribution so it's only available
> in stores within about a hundred mile radius, but a whole lot more
> than one location.

So they distribute to other "stupidmarkets", eh?

Gotcha!! ;-)

John Kuthe...

On Monday, January 9, 2012 9:25:57 AM UTC-5, Kalmia wrote:
> Will my ABM bread last longer if I store it in a cloth bag vs. a
> ziplock?

A loaf of bread in this kitchen lasts 36 hours.

On Tue, 10 Jan 2012 15:10:00 -0800 (PST), John Kuthe
> wrote:

>On Jan 10, 5:04*pm, Brooklyn1 <Gravesend1> wrote:
>> On Tue, 10 Jan 2012 10:32:21 -0800 (PST), John Kuthe
>>
>>
>>
>> > wrote:
>> >On Jan 10, 11:58 am, Brooklyn1 <Gravesend1> wrote:
>> >...
>>
>> >> I've found it depends on what kind of bread. Home made and good
>> >> bakery bread has a short shelf life even in a bread box, if not going
>> >> to consume it within two days it's best to freeze it. But plastic
>> >> bagged packaged breads from the stupidmarket refrigerate just fine...
>> >> if careful to take what you need without handling the rest, reseal,
>> >> and put it back in the fridge immediately it can keep for like two
>> >> weeks in the fridge without deteriorating. If you can buy this
>> >> company's products where you live I recommend you try them, they
>> >> contain no preservatives. I've tried them all and all are very good
>> >> but I do have my favorites, I typically have 2-3 loaves in my freezer
>> >> and one in my fridge. Since discovering this product I rarely bake
>> >> bread anymore and buy from bakeries only occasionally. There's a
>> >> store locator at their web site:
>> >>http://www.heidelbergbakingco.com/
>>
>> >Yeah Sheldon, there's exactly ONE:
>>
>> >Heidelberg Bakery Store / Outlet
>> >3056 State Route 28 North,
>> >Herkimer, New York
>>
>> Click on products. *It's regional distribution so it's only available
>> in stores within about a hundred mile radius, but a whole lot more
>> than one location.
>
>So they distribute to other "stupidmarkets", eh?
>
>Gotcha!! ;-)

Even the regional Walmarts carry it and at a slightly lower price,
albeit for me it's not worth a special 20 mile trip to save 20¢, but
when I'm already there I'll buy 2-3 loaves... they're like $4/loaf...
the sourdough is like $4.79 but it's heavier and denser, not one of my
favorites. But mostly I buy it in town. I like their French Peasant
Bread best, but still I alternate among the others and they don't
always have all the varieties in the store each time. I'll go through
like a loaf a week, I've never had one go bad.