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> On Thu, 26 Jan 2012 22:59:42 -0800, Julie Bove wrote:
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>> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
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>>> On Wed, 25 Jan 2012 19:43:46 -0800, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>>> He thinks I shouldn't buy presliced apples just because *he* can
>>>> buy cheap apples at some cheapass store where he lives. We have no
>>>> such
>>>> store and if I want to buy pre-slices apples, I will!
>>>
>>> Well, I agree with him there. Where can you buy pre-sliced apples
>>> that you can't buy whole apples? Even 7-11 sells apples probably for
>>> less than sliced apples at the grocery store.
>>>
>>> It's impossible for me to accept the idea that there is a store that
>>> sells sliced apples, but not whole apples. My upscale grocer has 29
>>> different kinds of apples in stock today. My regular grocer had 9
>>> different kinds.
>>>
>>>> I might complain
>>>> about the price of food overall, but you've never heard me complaining
>>>> about
>>>> the price of pre-sliced or any other apples.
>>>
>>> <boggle>

>>
>> I don't want whole apples. The peel sticks in my teeth. Nobody in the
>> house will eat whole ones. Yeah I can slice them but I don't like to do
>> that. They are sticky and then I have to wash the slicer. And then I
>> have
>> to dispose of the core which means using a biobag. Also in order for
>> them
>> to be portable I have to put something on them to treat them so they
>> don't
>> go brown. And we almost always take the sliced apples with us.
>>
>> I can get the presliced apples in portable bags at Costco. I can get
>> them
>> for less in a large bag at Winco. But if I get them there, sometimes
>> they
>> are close to expiring. I can get smaller packages at other stores and I
>> often do have a coupon for them. Once in a while I can combine a coupon
>> with a doubler making them free or close to free.
>>
>> These are what we like. So why should it be up to someone else to take
>> stabs at me because we like them?

>
> You said had no such store to buy cheap apples ("cheaper than sliced",
> was assumed). And now the sounds coming from your violin are getting
> even smaller.


He was claiming he had some store where he could get a huge bag of whole
apples for 99 cents or some such thing. He was telling me to do the same.
I have no such store here. He was claiming if he could buy them for that
price, I could too. That's how this whole thing started. It was in another
newsgroup. I wasn't complaining about the price of apples. I just
mentioned the sliced ones for some reason and now I can't even remember why.
But he started attacking me for buying sliced ones when whole ones were
cheaper. I then pointed out to him that with the price in this area that I
have to pay for whole apples, the sliced ones weren't that much more
expensive. He hasn't let it go and I don't think he ever will.


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>>> A gas stove oven won't operate during a power outage, IDIOT!

>>
>>Yes it will! At least the ones in the military housing did.
>>

>
> Some older ones will, most newer ones won't. Those with pilot lights
> will, but newer models have interlocks on the oven that will not allow
> lighting with a match. Burners will light though.


I didn't say it was a newer one.


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On Fri, 27 Jan 2012 06:03:30 -0500, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

>On Thu, 26 Jan 2012 14:49:29 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:
>
>
>
>>>
>>> A gas stove oven won't operate during a power outage, IDIOT!

>>
>>Yes it will! At least the ones in the military housing did.
>>

>
>Some older ones will, most newer ones won't. Those with pilot lights
>will, but newer models have interlocks on the oven that will not allow
>lighting with a match. Burners will light though.


In the US it's been some 50 years since gas ovens with pilot lights
were sold, and in most municipalities it's been illegal to use them
for some 30 years. Of course I've no doubt some nincompoops are still
using those antiques but if they blow themselves up in a fireball
their insurance won't cover the damage... naturally such nincompoops
wouldn't carry insurance anyway. Even gas furnaces, water heaters,
clothes dryers, and other gas appliances have an electrical interlock
preventing their use during periods of no power. That's why I had a
ventless gas heater installed in my basement to keep the pipes in my
house from freezing in winter in case of a power outage, it needs no
electric or chimney. I already tested it a few days ago when the
temps dove below zero, kept my house at 72ºF, and I only had its
thermostat set at 2 out of 10... my furnace only came on when it
called for hot domestic water. Had I set its thermostat much higher I
would have roasted in here, the thing is that good, and it's rated at
35,000 BTUs. I intend to use it during winter whenever the
temperature goes below like 15ºF, it will save gas by keeping my
furnace from coming on... the ventless heater is 99% efficient... no
heat goes up a chimney. It doesn't heat my entire house as evenly as
my regular OHW baseboard but it does heat evenly enough to be
comfortable.
I have the blue flame:
http://tinyurl.com/84a2anr
http://www.worldmkting.com/products/..._spacehtrs.htm
Anyone living in the north country needs this, much better than
dealing with the expense and hassle of a generator, and one really can
get by in sub freezing weather without a fridge/freezer.
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Gary wrote:
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>Also, in a past thread, someone was saying how gas stoves put out heat into
>the kitchen. Not a bad thing really except maybe in the heat of summer when
>you have AC running. During winter, I like that my stove will help heat up
>the house a bit.


So will an electric stove, and exactly the same.
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On Jan 27, 4:01*pm, Brooklyn1 <Gravesend1> wrote:
> On Fri, 27 Jan 2012 06:03:30 -0500, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
> >On Thu, 26 Jan 2012 14:49:29 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:

>
> >>> A gas stove oven won't operate during a power outage, IDIOT!

>
> >>Yes it will! *At least the ones in the military housing did.

>
> >Some older ones will, most newer ones won't. *Those with pilot lights
> >will, but newer models have interlocks on the oven that will not allow
> >lighting with a match. Burners will light though.

>
> In the US it's been some 50 years since gas ovens with pilot lights
> were sold, and in most municipalities it's been illegal to use them
> for some 30 years. *Of course I've no doubt some nincompoops are still
> using those antiques but if they blow themselves up in a fireball
> their insurance won't cover the damage... naturally such nincompoops
> wouldn't carry insurance anyway. *Even gas furnaces, water heaters,
> clothes dryers, and other gas appliances have an electrical interlock
> preventing their use during periods of no power. *That's why I had a
> ventless gas heater installed in my basement to keep the pipes in my
> house from freezing in winter in case of a power outage, it needs no
> electric or chimney. *I already tested it a few days ago when the
> temps dove below zero, kept my house at 72ºF, and I only had its
> thermostat set at 2 out of 10... my furnace only came on when it
> called for hot domestic water. *Had I set its thermostat much higher I
> would have roasted in here, the thing is that good, and it's rated at
> 35,000 BTUs. *I intend to use it during winter whenever the
> temperature goes below like 15ºF, it will save gas by keeping my
> furnace from coming on... the ventless heater is 99% efficient... no
> heat goes up a chimney. *It doesn't heat my entire house as evenly as
> my regular OHW baseboard but it does heat evenly enough to be
> comfortable.
> I have the blue flame: *http://tinyurl.com/84a2anrhttp://www..._spacehtrs.htm
> Anyone living in the north country needs this, much better than
> dealing with the expense and hassle of a generator, and one really can
> get by in sub freezing weather without a fridge/freezer.


How do you manage to be SO consistently wrong? Just a quick google
turned up this:

"Note: On some recent (2004+) Americana, GE, Magic Chef and probably
other pilot ignition range models, the oven thermostat knob needs to
be pushed in and held before the pilot can be re-lit if it has gone
out. The oven control knob may have to continue to be held in for up
to a minute after the pilot has been re-lit".

Yet you claim they haven't been sold for my entire lifetime. I can
remember lighting one AS AN ADULT.


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On Fri, 27 Jan 2012 11:12:13 -0800, "Julie Bove"
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> He was claiming if he could buy them for that
> price, I could too. That's how this whole thing started. It was in another
> newsgroup.


Restaurant Depot, the place he buys for personal use when he should be
buying for a business or nonprofit organization?

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On Fri, 27 Jan 2012 11:12:33 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
>"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Thu, 26 Jan 2012 14:49:29 -0800, "Julie Bove"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>>
>>>> A gas stove oven won't operate during a power outage, IDIOT!
>>>
>>>Yes it will! At least the ones in the military housing did.
>>>

>>
>> Some older ones will, most newer ones won't. Those with pilot lights
>> will, but newer models have interlocks on the oven that will not allow
>> lighting with a match. Burners will light though.

>
>I didn't say it was a newer one.


In your case it doesn't matter, you recently moved (or so you
claimed)... a legal rental would have had it removed long ago, a new
home would have a new stove, and a resale would have had to disclose
the old stove prior to closing and remove it because the fire marshal
and the home owners insurance company would have inspected the
property and the old stove would have been the first violation found.
The only way you have an older stove is if you moved into an illegal
rental. It's no wonder you're always complaining about your tiny
kitchen, you're living in an illegal basement apartment.
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On 1/27/2012 2:01 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:

> In the US it's been some 50 years since gas ovens with pilot lights
> were sold, and in most municipalities it's been illegal to use them
> for some 30 years.


A very quick Google search brought up a Hotpoint with a standing pilot
available on the market presently. Meanwhile...

It's illegal to use them, Shelly? For some thirty years? How does law
enforcement know that an oven with a standing pilot has been in use for
the last thirty years? Or do you mean it's against code, in which case
how would code enforcement officers know that an oven with a standing
pilot has been in use for the last thirty years? Or do you mean it
applies to new installations, in which case is everyone impacted or can
homeowners DIY install an oven with a standing pilot...

Re furnaces, water heaters, clothes dryers and such, I've never had a
gas dryer so I've never been through having to deal with a dryer pilot.
I can tell you that it's wonderful not having to get down on my hands
and knees on freezing basement floors to relight water heater and
furnace pilots after windstorms anymore!



> Of course I've no doubt some nincompoops are still
> using those antiques but if they blow themselves up in a fireball
> their insurance won't cover the damage... naturally such nincompoops
> wouldn't carry insurance anyway.


Shelly's bad days continue unabated, I see.
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On Jan 27, 5:37*pm, Brooklyn1 <Gravesend1> wrote:
> On Fri, 27 Jan 2012 11:12:33 -0800, "Julie Bove"
>
>
>
>
>
> > wrote:
>
> >"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
> .. .
> >> On Thu, 26 Jan 2012 14:49:29 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> >> > wrote:

>
> >>>> A gas stove oven won't operate during a power outage, IDIOT!

>
> >>>Yes it will! *At least the ones in the military housing did.

>
> >> Some older ones will, most newer ones won't. *Those with pilot lights
> >> will, but newer models have interlocks on the oven that will not allow
> >> lighting with a match. Burners will light though.

>
> >I didn't say it was a newer one.

>
> In your case it doesn't matter, you recently moved (or so you
> claimed)... a legal rental would have had it removed long ago, a new
> home would have a new stove, and a resale would have had to disclose
> the old stove prior to closing and remove it because the fire marshal
> and the home owners insurance company would have inspected the
> property and the old stove would have been the first violation found.
> The only way you have an older stove is if you moved into an illegal
> rental. *It's no wonder you're always complaining about your tiny
> kitchen, you're living in an illegal basement apartment.


Well...except you're completely full of shit. Go grind up some cat
meat for your dinner.
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In article >, sf >
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> On Fri, 27 Jan 2012 11:12:13 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
> > He was claiming if he could buy them for that
> > price, I could too. That's how this whole thing started. It was in
> > another
> > newsgroup.

>
> Restaurant Depot, the place he buys for personal use when he should be
> buying for a business or nonprofit organization?


not me. don't have one nearby


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> I don't want whole apples. The peel sticks in my teeth. Nobody in the
> house will eat whole ones. Yeah I can slice them but I don't like to do
> that. They are sticky and then I have to wash the slicer. And then I have
> to dispose of the core which means using a biobag. Also in order for them
> to be portable I have to put something on them to treat them so they don't
> go brown. And we almost always take the sliced apples with us.
>
> I can get the presliced apples in portable bags at Costco. I can get them
> for less in a large bag at Winco. But if I get them there, sometimes they
> are close to expiring. I can get smaller packages at other stores and I
> often do have a coupon for them. Once in a while I can combine a coupon
> with a doubler making them free or close to free.
>
> These are what we like. So why should it be up to someone else to take
> stabs at me because we like them?


notice how the story shifts. now it is because the peel sticks in her
teeth...but pre-sliced apples still have the peel on them. she really ought to
pay more attention to her lies as she keeps tripping on them
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On Thu, 26 Jan 2012 14:49:29 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> arranged random neurons and said:

>
>"Brooklyn1" <Gravesend1> wrote in message
.. .


>> A gas stove oven won't operate during a power outage, IDIOT!

>
>Yes it will! At least the ones in the military housing did.
>

Word up! As an old AF brat, I can testify that we used to use matches
to start the gas ovens in base housing. I could also take one of those
suckers apart and clean it to suit the base housing officer when we
were transferred, too!!

Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd

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"Brooklyn1" <Gravesend1> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 27 Jan 2012 11:12:33 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
. ..
>>> On Thu, 26 Jan 2012 14:49:29 -0800, "Julie Bove"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> A gas stove oven won't operate during a power outage, IDIOT!
>>>>
>>>>Yes it will! At least the ones in the military housing did.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Some older ones will, most newer ones won't. Those with pilot lights
>>> will, but newer models have interlocks on the oven that will not allow
>>> lighting with a match. Burners will light though.

>>
>>I didn't say it was a newer one.

>
> In your case it doesn't matter, you recently moved (or so you
> claimed)... a legal rental would have had it removed long ago, a new
> home would have a new stove, and a resale would have had to disclose
> the old stove prior to closing and remove it because the fire marshal
> and the home owners insurance company would have inspected the
> property and the old stove would have been the first violation found.
> The only way you have an older stove is if you moved into an illegal
> rental. It's no wonder you're always complaining about your tiny
> kitchen, you're living in an illegal basement apartment.


I didn't recently move nor did I say that I did. We've been here for 8
years. And we own the house. It also has no basement. It's a very small
Ranch that has been remodeled in a bad way.


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Julie Bove wrote:
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> He was claiming he had some store where he could get a huge bag of whole
> apples for 99 cents or some such thing. He was telling me to do the same.
> I have no such store here. He was claiming if he could buy them for that
> price, I could too. That's how this whole thing started. It was in another
> newsgroup. I wasn't complaining about the price of apples. I just
> mentioned the sliced ones for some reason and now I can't even remember why.


You were wondering how to fit an apple
into the slot of a toaster?
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> On Fri, 27 Jan 2012 11:12:13 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>> He was claiming if he could buy them for that
>> price, I could too. That's how this whole thing started. It was in
>> another
>> newsgroup.

>
> Restaurant Depot, the place he buys for personal use when he should be
> buying for a business or nonprofit organization?


No. This was Mal or Malcolm or whatever his name is. I have him killfiled.
Apparently in some areas there are 99 cent stores. I saw one on a cooking
contest but I can't remember which one. One where they send the chefs out
to buy stuff. They could only buy what was in the 99 cent store. Now I
don't know if these are just food stores or if they sell other things.

We do have dollar stores in this area. Dollar Tree does sell food. No
fresh produce. We also have a dollar and party store. Plenty of things
cost more than a dollar there and I will never buy food there again. My mom
wanted a small can of hominy. They had it. Turns out they put the price
ticket right over the expiration date and it was badly expired. More than a
dollar too! I could get her a big can at Winco for less then the $1.50 I
paid for that. But my mom is weird like that. Couldn't possibly deal with
a can that is too big.




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> On Fri, 27 Jan 2012 11:12:13 -0800, Julie Bove wrote:
>
>> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
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>>> On Thu, 26 Jan 2012 22:59:42 -0800, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> On Wed, 25 Jan 2012 19:43:46 -0800, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> He thinks I shouldn't buy presliced apples just because *he* can
>>>>>> buy cheap apples at some cheapass store where he lives. We have no
>>>>>> such
>>>>>> store and if I want to buy pre-slices apples, I will!
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, I agree with him there. Where can you buy pre-sliced apples
>>>>> that you can't buy whole apples? Even 7-11 sells apples probably for
>>>>> less than sliced apples at the grocery store.
>>>>>
>>>>> It's impossible for me to accept the idea that there is a store that
>>>>> sells sliced apples, but not whole apples. My upscale grocer has 29
>>>>> different kinds of apples in stock today. My regular grocer had 9
>>>>> different kinds.
>>>>>
>>>>>> I might complain
>>>>>> about the price of food overall, but you've never heard me
>>>>>> complaining
>>>>>> about
>>>>>> the price of pre-sliced or any other apples.
>>>>>
>>>>> <boggle>
>>>>
>>>> I don't want whole apples. The peel sticks in my teeth. Nobody in the
>>>> house will eat whole ones. Yeah I can slice them but I don't like to
>>>> do
>>>> that. They are sticky and then I have to wash the slicer. And then I
>>>> have
>>>> to dispose of the core which means using a biobag. Also in order for
>>>> them
>>>> to be portable I have to put something on them to treat them so they
>>>> don't
>>>> go brown. And we almost always take the sliced apples with us.
>>>>
>>>> I can get the presliced apples in portable bags at Costco. I can get
>>>> them
>>>> for less in a large bag at Winco. But if I get them there, sometimes
>>>> they
>>>> are close to expiring. I can get smaller packages at other stores and
>>>> I
>>>> often do have a coupon for them. Once in a while I can combine a
>>>> coupon
>>>> with a doubler making them free or close to free.
>>>>
>>>> These are what we like. So why should it be up to someone else to take
>>>> stabs at me because we like them?
>>>
>>> You said had no such store to buy cheap apples ("cheaper than sliced",
>>> was assumed). And now the sounds coming from your violin are getting
>>> even smaller.

>>
>> He was claiming he had some store where he could get a huge bag of whole
>> apples for 99 cents or some such thing. He was telling me to do the
>> same.
>> I have no such store here. He was claiming if he could buy them for that
>> price, I could too. That's how this whole thing started. It was in
>> another
>> newsgroup. I wasn't complaining about the price of apples. I just
>> mentioned the sliced ones for some reason and now I can't even remember
>> why.
>> But he started attacking me for buying sliced ones when whole ones were
>> cheaper. I then pointed out to him that with the price in this area that
>> I
>> have to pay for whole apples, the sliced ones weren't that much more
>> expensive. He hasn't let it go and I don't think he ever will.

>
> You live in... Washington state?


Yes. Where we have apples aplenty. But not necessarily for less money than
in other states unless you want to go to Eastern Washington and pick your
own. We have done that when I was a kid. And I did have an apple tree in
the backyard. Well it is still there but my husband had the gardener prune
it in such a way so that it will not produce. He didn't like my making
applesauce because he said canning is what the cheap cheaps do.


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"Terry Pulliam Burd" > wrote in message
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> On Thu, 26 Jan 2012 14:49:29 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> > arranged random neurons and said:
>
>>
>>"Brooklyn1" <Gravesend1> wrote in message
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>
>>> A gas stove oven won't operate during a power outage, IDIOT!

>>
>>Yes it will! At least the ones in the military housing did.
>>

> Word up! As an old AF brat, I can testify that we used to use matches
> to start the gas ovens in base housing. I could also take one of those
> suckers apart and clean it to suit the base housing officer when we
> were transferred, too!!
>
> Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd


Yep. I learned to take them apart and soak various parts in a bag of
ammonia. Yuck! Also to ream out the ports.


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> On 28/01/2012 1:23 PM, Malcom "Mal" Reynolds wrote:
>> In >, "Julie
>> >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I don't want whole apples. The peel sticks in my teeth. Nobody in the
>>> house will eat whole ones. Yeah I can slice them but I don't like to do
>>> that. They are sticky and then I have to wash the slicer. And then I
>>> have
>>> to dispose of the core which means using a biobag. Also in order for
>>> them
>>> to be portable I have to put something on them to treat them so they
>>> don't
>>> go brown. And we almost always take the sliced apples with us.
>>>
>>> I can get the presliced apples in portable bags at Costco. I can get
>>> them
>>> for less in a large bag at Winco. But if I get them there, sometimes
>>> they
>>> are close to expiring. I can get smaller packages at other stores and I
>>> often do have a coupon for them. Once in a while I can combine a coupon
>>> with a doubler making them free or close to free.
>>>
>>> These are what we like. So why should it be up to someone else to take
>>> stabs at me because we like them?

>>
>> notice how the story shifts. now it is because the peel sticks in her
>> teeth...but pre-sliced apples still have the peel on them. she really
>> ought to
>> pay more attention to her lies as she keeps tripping on them

> I wont read crap anymore
>
>
> JB> the epitome of the "ugly" American


Good then don't! Yes of course pre-sliced apples have the peel. But you're
not biting directly into it with your front teeth. At least I don't. I
turn them sideways to eat them. I know. I just ate some.


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"Mark Thorson" > wrote in message
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> Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> He was claiming he had some store where he could get a huge bag of whole
>> apples for 99 cents or some such thing. He was telling me to do the
>> same.
>> I have no such store here. He was claiming if he could buy them for that
>> price, I could too. That's how this whole thing started. It was in
>> another
>> newsgroup. I wasn't complaining about the price of apples. I just
>> mentioned the sliced ones for some reason and now I can't even remember
>> why.

>
> You were wondering how to fit an apple
> into the slot of a toaster?


No.


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> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
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> > On Fri, 27 Jan 2012 11:12:13 -0800, Julie Bove wrote:

>
> >> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
> ...
> >>> On Thu, 26 Jan 2012 22:59:42 -0800, Julie Bove wrote:

>
> >>>> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
> ...
> >>>>> On Wed, 25 Jan 2012 19:43:46 -0800, Julie Bove wrote:

>
> >>>>>> He thinks I shouldn't buy presliced apples just because *he* can
> >>>>>> buy cheap apples at some cheapass store where he lives. *We have no
> >>>>>> such
> >>>>>> store and if I want to buy pre-slices apples, I will!

>
> >>>>> Well, I agree with him there. *Where can you buy pre-sliced apples
> >>>>> that you can't buy whole apples? *Even 7-11 sells apples probably for
> >>>>> less than sliced apples at the grocery store.

>
> >>>>> It's impossible for me to accept the idea that there is a store that
> >>>>> sells sliced apples, but not whole apples. *My upscale grocer has 29
> >>>>> different kinds of apples in stock today. *My regular grocer had 9
> >>>>> different kinds.

>
> >>>>>> I might complain
> >>>>>> about the price of food overall, but you've never heard me
> >>>>>> complaining
> >>>>>> about
> >>>>>> the price of pre-sliced or any other apples.

>
> >>>>> <boggle>

>
> >>>> I don't want whole apples. *The peel sticks in my teeth. *Nobody in the
> >>>> house will eat whole ones. *Yeah I can slice them but I don't like to
> >>>> do
> >>>> that. *They are sticky and then I have to wash the slicer. *And then I
> >>>> have
> >>>> to dispose of the core which means using a biobag. *Also in order for
> >>>> them
> >>>> to be portable I have to put something on them to treat them so they
> >>>> don't
> >>>> go brown. *And we almost always take the sliced apples with us.

>
> >>>> I can get the presliced apples in portable bags at Costco. *I can get
> >>>> them
> >>>> for less in a large bag at Winco. *But if I get them there, sometimes
> >>>> they
> >>>> are close to expiring. *I can get smaller packages at other stores and
> >>>> I
> >>>> often do have a coupon for them. *Once in a while I can combine a
> >>>> coupon
> >>>> with a doubler making them free or close to free.

>
> >>>> These are what we like. *So why should it be up to someone else to take
> >>>> stabs at me because we like them?

>
> >>> You said had no such store to buy cheap apples ("cheaper than sliced",
> >>> was assumed). *And now the sounds coming from your violin are getting
> >>> even smaller.

>
> >> He was claiming he had some store where he could get a huge bag of whole
> >> apples for 99 cents or some such thing. *He was telling me to do the
> >> same.
> >> I have no such store here. *He was claiming if he could buy them for that
> >> price, I could too. *That's how this whole thing started. *It was in
> >> another
> >> newsgroup. *I wasn't complaining about the price of apples. *I just
> >> mentioned the sliced ones for some reason and now I can't even remember
> >> why.
> >> But he started attacking me for buying sliced ones when whole ones were
> >> cheaper. *I then pointed out to him that with the price in this area that
> >> I
> >> have to pay for whole apples, the sliced ones weren't that much more
> >> expensive. *He hasn't let it go and I don't think he ever will.

>
> > You live in... Washington state?

>
> Yes. *Where we have apples aplenty. *But not necessarily for less money than
> in other states unless you want to go to Eastern Washington and pick your
> own. *We have done that when I was a kid. *And I did have an apple tree in
> the backyard. *Well it is still there but my husband had the gardener prune
> it in such a way so that it will not produce. *He didn't like my making
> applesauce because he said canning is what the cheap cheaps do.


No, it's what smart people do- your husband is an idiot! When you can
your own stuff, you are in total control of what is put in there as
oppossed to the dregs that you can end up with.


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> > On 28/01/2012 1:23 PM, Malcom "Mal" Reynolds wrote:
> >> In >, "Julie
> >> >
> >> wrote:

>
> >>> I don't want whole apples. *The peel sticks in my teeth. *Nobody in the
> >>> house will eat whole ones. *Yeah I can slice them but I don't like to do
> >>> that. *They are sticky and then I have to wash the slicer. *And then I
> >>> have
> >>> to dispose of the core which means using a biobag. *Also in order for
> >>> them
> >>> to be portable I have to put something on them to treat them so they
> >>> don't
> >>> go brown. *And we almost always take the sliced apples with us.

>
> >>> I can get the presliced apples in portable bags at Costco. *I can get
> >>> them
> >>> for less in a large bag at Winco. *But if I get them there, sometimes
> >>> they
> >>> are close to expiring. *I can get smaller packages at other stores and I
> >>> often do have a coupon for them. *Once in a while I can combine a coupon
> >>> with a doubler making them free or close to free.

>
> >>> These are what we like. *So why should it be up to someone else to take
> >>> stabs at me because we like them?

>
> >> notice how the story shifts. now it is because the peel sticks in her
> >> teeth...but pre-sliced apples still have the peel on them. she really
> >> ought to
> >> pay more attention to her lies as she keeps tripping on them

> > I wont read crap anymore

>
> > JB> the epitome of the "ugly" American

>
> Good then don't! *Yes of course pre-sliced apples have the peel. *But you're
> not biting directly into it with your front teeth. *At least I don't. *I
> turn them sideways to eat them. *I know. *I just ate some.


Don't you have a peeler?
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No, it's what smart people do- your husband is an idiot! When you can
your own stuff, you are in total control of what is put in there as
oppossed to the dregs that you can end up with.

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Don't you have a peeler?

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I don't WANT them peeled! I want to eat slices of apple. So does everyone
else in this house. Why do people have a problem with that? *sheesh*


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> My mom
> wanted a small can of hominy. They had it. Turns out they put the price
> ticket right over the expiration date and it was badly expired. More than a
> dollar too! I could get her a big can at Winco for less then the $1.50 I
> paid for that. But my mom is weird like that. Couldn't possibly deal with
> a can that is too big.
>

Dollar stores do that and hope you don't notice. I bought a nice
looking metal "piggy" bank from the local dollar store last week. I
looked on the bottom for the place where you take out the plastic
stopper to remove the money, but a big label was over that area. I
took the tag off when I got home and discovered there is no way to get
the money out without using a can opener. Oh, well. It was only $1.

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> Don't you have a peeler?
>
> ---
>
> I don't WANT them peeled! I want to eat slices of apple. So does everyone
> else in this house. Why do people have a problem with that? *sheesh*
>


How does taking the peel off affect if it's a slice or not?

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> On Fri, 27 Jan 2012 20:52:33 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>> "merryb" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> Don't you have a peeler?
>>
>> ---
>>
>> I don't WANT them peeled! I want to eat slices of apple. So does
>> everyone else in this house. Why do people have a problem with
>> that? *sheesh*
>>

>
> How does taking the peel off affect if it's a slice or not?


It doesn't. I said I didn't like to bite into a whole apple because the
peel got stuck in my teeth. But then sw had to get all smart alecky and
point out that the slices have peel. Yes they do but I am not having to
bite directly into it. I have never gotten the peel from a slice stuck in
my teeth. I'm not saying it couldn't happen. But it hasn't happened yet.


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sf > wrote:

> Dollar stores do that and hope you don't notice. I bought a nice
> looking metal "piggy" bank from the local dollar store last week. I
> looked on the bottom for the place where you take out the plastic
> stopper to remove the money, but a big label was over that area. I
> took the tag off when I got home and discovered there is no way to get
> the money out without using a can opener. Oh, well. It was only $1.


And meant to be broken just like the old piggy banks. For a buck, I'm
sure a hammer will break it. Put quarters and half dollars (if you can
find them) in it, and have a piggy bank busting party when it's full.
I bought a ten buck wok at Winco a week ago on a whim with lots of
wooden wok utensils inside. It had a non-stick coating which wore or
burned off of the bottom the first time I used the wok. Although
concerned about 'non-stick chemical wok poisoning', we seem to be OK. I
wasn't sure whether to wash the thing or throw it away.
I decided to keep it and, if necessary, crush it with my bare hands in
front of a misbehaving granddaughter. Just kidding. I think I'll save it
for Festivus feats of strength.

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> In article >,
> sf > wrote:
>
>> Dollar stores do that and hope you don't notice. I bought a nice
>> looking metal "piggy" bank from the local dollar store last week. I
>> looked on the bottom for the place where you take out the plastic
>> stopper to remove the money, but a big label was over that area. I
>> took the tag off when I got home and discovered there is no way to get
>> the money out without using a can opener. Oh, well. It was only $1.

>
> And meant to be broken just like the old piggy banks. For a buck, I'm
> sure a hammer will break it. Put quarters and half dollars (if you can
> find them) in it, and have a piggy bank busting party when it's full.
> I bought a ten buck wok at Winco a week ago on a whim with lots of
> wooden wok utensils inside. It had a non-stick coating which wore or
> burned off of the bottom the first time I used the wok. Although
> concerned about 'non-stick chemical wok poisoning', we seem to be OK. I
> wasn't sure whether to wash the thing or throw it away.
> I decided to keep it and, if necessary, crush it with my bare hands in
> front of a misbehaving granddaughter. Just kidding. I think I'll save it
> for Festivus feats of strength.


Uh oh. I bought that same wok for my nephew.


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On Jan 27, 10:49*pm, merryb > wrote:
> On Jan 27, 8:40*pm, "Julie Bove" > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > "Sqwertz" > wrote in message

>
> ...

>
> > > On Fri, 27 Jan 2012 11:12:13 -0800, Julie Bove wrote:

>
> > >> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > >>> On Thu, 26 Jan 2012 22:59:42 -0800, Julie Bove wrote:

>
> > >>>> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > >>>>> On Wed, 25 Jan 2012 19:43:46 -0800, Julie Bove wrote:

>
> > >>>>>> He thinks I shouldn't buy presliced apples just because *he* can
> > >>>>>> buy cheap apples at some cheapass store where he lives. *We have no
> > >>>>>> such
> > >>>>>> store and if I want to buy pre-slices apples, I will!

>
> > >>>>> Well, I agree with him there. *Where can you buy pre-sliced apples
> > >>>>> that you can't buy whole apples? *Even 7-11 sells apples probably for
> > >>>>> less than sliced apples at the grocery store.

>
> > >>>>> It's impossible for me to accept the idea that there is a store that
> > >>>>> sells sliced apples, but not whole apples. *My upscale grocer has 29
> > >>>>> different kinds of apples in stock today. *My regular grocer had 9
> > >>>>> different kinds.

>
> > >>>>>> I might complain
> > >>>>>> about the price of food overall, but you've never heard me
> > >>>>>> complaining
> > >>>>>> about
> > >>>>>> the price of pre-sliced or any other apples.

>
> > >>>>> <boggle>

>
> > >>>> I don't want whole apples. *The peel sticks in my teeth. *Nobody in the
> > >>>> house will eat whole ones. *Yeah I can slice them but I don't like to
> > >>>> do
> > >>>> that. *They are sticky and then I have to wash the slicer. *And then I
> > >>>> have
> > >>>> to dispose of the core which means using a biobag. *Also in order for
> > >>>> them
> > >>>> to be portable I have to put something on them to treat them so they
> > >>>> don't
> > >>>> go brown. *And we almost always take the sliced apples with us.

>
> > >>>> I can get the presliced apples in portable bags at Costco. *I can get
> > >>>> them
> > >>>> for less in a large bag at Winco. *But if I get them there, sometimes
> > >>>> they
> > >>>> are close to expiring. *I can get smaller packages at other stores and
> > >>>> I
> > >>>> often do have a coupon for them. *Once in a while I can combine a
> > >>>> coupon
> > >>>> with a doubler making them free or close to free.

>
> > >>>> These are what we like. *So why should it be up to someone else to take
> > >>>> stabs at me because we like them?

>
> > >>> You said had no such store to buy cheap apples ("cheaper than sliced",
> > >>> was assumed). *And now the sounds coming from your violin are getting
> > >>> even smaller.

>
> > >> He was claiming he had some store where he could get a huge bag of whole
> > >> apples for 99 cents or some such thing. *He was telling me to do the
> > >> same.
> > >> I have no such store here. *He was claiming if he could buy them for that
> > >> price, I could too. *That's how this whole thing started. *It was in
> > >> another
> > >> newsgroup. *I wasn't complaining about the price of apples. *I just
> > >> mentioned the sliced ones for some reason and now I can't even remember
> > >> why.
> > >> But he started attacking me for buying sliced ones when whole ones were
> > >> cheaper. *I then pointed out to him that with the price in this area that
> > >> I
> > >> have to pay for whole apples, the sliced ones weren't that much more
> > >> expensive. *He hasn't let it go and I don't think he ever will.

>
> > > You live in... Washington state?

>
> > Yes. *Where we have apples aplenty. *But not necessarily for less money than
> > in other states unless you want to go to Eastern Washington and pick your
> > own. *We have done that when I was a kid. *And I did have an apple tree in
> > the backyard. *Well it is still there but my husband had the gardener prune
> > it in such a way so that it will not produce. *He didn't like my making
> > applesauce because he said canning is what the cheap cheaps do.

>
> No, it's what smart people do- your husband is an idiot!


An idiot married to a moron.

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>On Jan 27, 4:01*pm, Brooklyn1 <Gravesend1> wrote:
>> On Fri, 27 Jan 2012 06:03:30 -0500, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>> >On Thu, 26 Jan 2012 14:49:29 -0800, "Julie Bove"
>> > wrote:

>>
>> >>> A gas stove oven won't operate during a power outage, IDIOT!

>>
>> >>Yes it will! *At least the ones in the military housing did.

>>
>> >Some older ones will, most newer ones won't. *Those with pilot lights
>> >will, but newer models have interlocks on the oven that will not allow
>> >lighting with a match. Burners will light though.

>>
>> In the US it's been some 50 years since gas ovens with pilot lights
>> were sold, and in most municipalities it's been illegal to use them
>> for some 30 years. *Of course I've no doubt some nincompoops are still
>> using those antiques but if they blow themselves up in a fireball
>> their insurance won't cover the damage... naturally such nincompoops
>> wouldn't carry insurance anyway. *Even gas furnaces, water heaters,
>> clothes dryers, and other gas appliances have an electrical interlock
>> preventing their use during periods of no power. *That's why I had a
>> ventless gas heater installed in my basement to keep the pipes in my
>> house from freezing in winter in case of a power outage, it needs no
>> electric or chimney. *I already tested it a few days ago when the
>> temps dove below zero, kept my house at 72ºF, and I only had its
>> thermostat set at 2 out of 10... my furnace only came on when it
>> called for hot domestic water. *Had I set its thermostat much higher I
>> would have roasted in here, the thing is that good, and it's rated at
>> 35,000 BTUs. *I intend to use it during winter whenever the
>> temperature goes below like 15ºF, it will save gas by keeping my
>> furnace from coming on... the ventless heater is 99% efficient... no
>> heat goes up a chimney. *It doesn't heat my entire house as evenly as
>> my regular OHW baseboard but it does heat evenly enough to be
>> comfortable.
>> I have the blue flame: *http://tinyurl.com/84a2anrhttp://www..._spacehtrs.htm
>> Anyone living in the north country needs this, much better than
>> dealing with the expense and hassle of a generator, and one really can
>> get by in sub freezing weather without a fridge/freezer.

>
>How do you manage to be SO consistently wrong? Just a quick google
>turned up this:
>
>"Note: On some recent (2004+) Americana, GE, Magic Chef and probably
>other pilot ignition range models, the oven thermostat knob needs to
>be pushed in and held before the pilot can be re-lit if it has gone
>out. The oven control knob may have to continue to be held in for up
>to a minute after the pilot has been re-lit".
>
>Yet you claim they haven't been sold for my entire lifetime. I can
>remember lighting one AS AN ADULT.


I had one until 5 years ago and it was less than 10 years old. As
usual shemp is making things up. They're also common in low end
housing because they're cheaper. People often leave the stove in such
bad shape it's easier to replace it and offset some of the cost by
charging a cleaning fee.

Here's one that's currently available. It's small but I don't feel
like looking for others..

http://plassappliance.com/products/P...e/gak100t.html

Lou








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>On Jan 27, 5:37*pm, Brooklyn1 <Gravesend1> wrote:
>> On Fri, 27 Jan 2012 11:12:33 -0800, "Julie Bove"
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
>> .. .
>> >> On Thu, 26 Jan 2012 14:49:29 -0800, "Julie Bove"
>> >> > wrote:

>>
>> >>>> A gas stove oven won't operate during a power outage, IDIOT!

>>
>> >>>Yes it will! *At least the ones in the military housing did.

>>
>> >> Some older ones will, most newer ones won't. *Those with pilot lights
>> >> will, but newer models have interlocks on the oven that will not allow
>> >> lighting with a match. Burners will light though.

>>
>> >I didn't say it was a newer one.

>>
>> In your case it doesn't matter, you recently moved (or so you
>> claimed)... a legal rental would have had it removed long ago, a new
>> home would have a new stove, and a resale would have had to disclose
>> the old stove prior to closing and remove it because the fire marshal
>> and the home owners insurance company would have inspected the
>> property and the old stove would have been the first violation found.
>> The only way you have an older stove is if you moved into an illegal
>> rental. *It's no wonder you're always complaining about your tiny
>> kitchen, you're living in an illegal basement apartment.

>
>Well...except you're completely full of shit. Go grind up some cat
>meat for your dinner.


I's amazing that he can make this wild ass stuff up.

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> Bryan wrote:
> > On Jan 24, 2:01 am, "Julie Bove" > wrote:
> >> spamtrap1888 wrote:
> >>> On Jan 23, 5:55 pm, Bryan > wrote:
> >>>> On Jan 23, 6:45 pm, "Julie Bove" > wrote:

>
> >>>>> Bryan wrote:
> >>>>>> On Jan 22, 10:22 pm, "Julie Bove" > wrote:
> >>>>>>> Because we were snowed in here for a week and I knew we were
> >>>>>>> going to be, I bought two cans of refrigerated biscuits. This
> >>>>>>> is not something I normally buy but I knew my bread wouldn't be
> >>>>>>> good at the end of the week and apparently you can not buy a
> >>>>>>> single loaf of frozen bread dough. I do not keep wheat flour in
> >>>>>>> the house because of my daughter's allergy.

>
> >>>>>>> So tonight after we finally got out and got some more
> >>>>>>> groceries, I noticed some horrible oozing thing in the door of
> >>>>>>> the fridge. It was the biscuits. My daughter said they had
> >>>>>>> fallen on the floor and they had. I remembered it. And they
> >>>>>>> looked intact at the time. But apparently it was enough to pop
> >>>>>>> them open.
> >>>>>>> And boy did they look bad! The can must have been busted like
> >>>>>>> that for a while. They were all dried out with just a few moist
> >>>>>>> oozing spots. Ick!

>
> >>>>>> Those things are shitty anyway. No one with any sense buys them
> >>>>>> in the first place.

>
> >>>>> I'm sure they're not the best. But if you are snowed in and
> >>>>> hungry...

>
> >>>> Every one I've ever seen is made with partially hydrogenated oils.
> >>>> You bought poison.

>
> >>> Another reason to buy frozen bread: no trans fats:

>
> >>> Unbleached enriched white flour (wheat flour, niacin, ferrous
> >>> sulfate or reduced iron, thiamin monoitrate, riboflavin follic
> >>> acid), water, high fructose corn syrup, yeast, soybean oil and/or
> >>> canola oil, salt, malt, sodium stearoyl lactylate, yeast nutrients
> >>> (calcium sulfate, ammonium chloride), ascorbic acid, enzyme (added
> >>> for improved baking). CONTAINS: WHEAT, SOY

>
> > Pillsbury Grands! Cinnamon Rolls, with Icing

>
> > Ingredients
> > Enriched Flour Bleached (Wheat Flour, Niacin, Ferrous Sulfate, Thiamin
> > Mononitrate, Riboflavin, Folic Acid), Water, Sugar, Partially
> > Hydrogenated Soybean and/or Cottonseed Oil, Dextrose, Wheat Starch,
> > High Fructose Corn Syrup, Baking Powder (Baking Soda, Sodium Acid
> > Pyrophosphate, Sodium Aluminum Phosphate), Whey, Salt, Corn Starch,
> > Cinnamon, Vital Wheat Gluten, Mono and Diglycerides, Corn Syrup
> > Solids, Datem, Sodium Alginate, Xanthan Gum, Natural and Artificial
> > Flavor, Polysorbate 60, Potassium Sorbate (Preservative), Yellow 5,
> > Red 40, Color Added.

>
> > * * *source--
> >http://www.wegmans.com/webapp/wcs/st...tDisplay?produ...

>
> >> High fructose corn syrup is bad!

>
> > How is high fructose corn syrup worse than plain sugar?
> > You are an idiot.

>
> It's linked to heart problems in diabetics. *And I am a diabetic. *I *don't
> eat cinnamon rolls in any way shape or form.


Sorry, your husband is an idiot. You are merely a moron.
Regular sugar cause all the same problems as HFCS.

--Bryan
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> In article >,
> sf > wrote:
>
> > Dollar stores do that and hope you don't notice. I bought a nice
> > looking metal "piggy" bank from the local dollar store last week. I
> > looked on the bottom for the place where you take out the plastic
> > stopper to remove the money, but a big label was over that area. I
> > took the tag off when I got home and discovered there is no way to get
> > the money out without using a can opener. Oh, well. It was only $1.

>
> And meant to be broken just like the old piggy banks. For a buck, I'm
> sure a hammer will break it. Put quarters and half dollars (if you can
> find them) in it, and have a piggy bank busting party when it's full.
> I bought a ten buck wok at Winco a week ago on a whim with lots of
> wooden wok utensils inside. It had a non-stick coating which wore or
> burned off of the bottom the first time I used the wok. Although
> concerned about 'non-stick chemical wok poisoning', we seem to be OK. I
> wasn't sure whether to wash the thing or throw it away.
> I decided to keep it and, if necessary, crush it with my bare hands in
> front of a misbehaving granddaughter. Just kidding. I think I'll save it
> for Festivus feats of strength.
>

Was it really a non-stick coating or that stuff they put on woks to
keep them from rusting? Wash it well and scrape the crud off. You
shouldn't have a non-stick coating on woks anyway, because it can't
take the high heat necessary for real wok cooking.

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Bryan wrote:
> On Jan 24, 9:22 am, "Julie Bove" > wrote:
>> Bryan wrote:
>>> On Jan 24, 2:01 am, "Julie Bove" > wrote:
>>>> spamtrap1888 wrote:
>>>>> On Jan 23, 5:55 pm, Bryan > wrote:
>>>>>> On Jan 23, 6:45 pm, "Julie Bove" > wrote:

>>
>>>>>>> Bryan wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Jan 22, 10:22 pm, "Julie Bove" >
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Because we were snowed in here for a week and I knew we were
>>>>>>>>> going to be, I bought two cans of refrigerated biscuits. This
>>>>>>>>> is not something I normally buy but I knew my bread wouldn't
>>>>>>>>> be good at the end of the week and apparently you can not buy
>>>>>>>>> a single loaf of frozen bread dough. I do not keep wheat
>>>>>>>>> flour in the house because of my daughter's allergy.

>>
>>>>>>>>> So tonight after we finally got out and got some more
>>>>>>>>> groceries, I noticed some horrible oozing thing in the door of
>>>>>>>>> the fridge. It was the biscuits. My daughter said they had
>>>>>>>>> fallen on the floor and they had. I remembered it. And they
>>>>>>>>> looked intact at the time. But apparently it was enough to pop
>>>>>>>>> them open.
>>>>>>>>> And boy did they look bad! The can must have been busted like
>>>>>>>>> that for a while. They were all dried out with just a few
>>>>>>>>> moist oozing spots. Ick!

>>
>>>>>>>> Those things are shitty anyway. No one with any sense buys them
>>>>>>>> in the first place.

>>
>>>>>>> I'm sure they're not the best. But if you are snowed in and
>>>>>>> hungry...

>>
>>>>>> Every one I've ever seen is made with partially hydrogenated
>>>>>> oils. You bought poison.

>>
>>>>> Another reason to buy frozen bread: no trans fats:

>>
>>>>> Unbleached enriched white flour (wheat flour, niacin, ferrous
>>>>> sulfate or reduced iron, thiamin monoitrate, riboflavin follic
>>>>> acid), water, high fructose corn syrup, yeast, soybean oil and/or
>>>>> canola oil, salt, malt, sodium stearoyl lactylate, yeast nutrients
>>>>> (calcium sulfate, ammonium chloride), ascorbic acid, enzyme (added
>>>>> for improved baking). CONTAINS: WHEAT, SOY

>>
>>> Pillsbury Grands! Cinnamon Rolls, with Icing

>>
>>> Ingredients
>>> Enriched Flour Bleached (Wheat Flour, Niacin, Ferrous Sulfate,
>>> Thiamin Mononitrate, Riboflavin, Folic Acid), Water, Sugar,
>>> Partially Hydrogenated Soybean and/or Cottonseed Oil, Dextrose,
>>> Wheat Starch, High Fructose Corn Syrup, Baking Powder (Baking Soda,
>>> Sodium Acid Pyrophosphate, Sodium Aluminum Phosphate), Whey, Salt,
>>> Corn Starch, Cinnamon, Vital Wheat Gluten, Mono and Diglycerides,
>>> Corn Syrup Solids, Datem, Sodium Alginate, Xanthan Gum, Natural and
>>> Artificial Flavor, Polysorbate 60, Potassium Sorbate
>>> (Preservative), Yellow 5, Red 40, Color Added.

>>
>>> source--
>>> http://www.wegmans.com/webapp/wcs/st...tDisplay?produ...

>>
>>>> High fructose corn syrup is bad!

>>
>>> How is high fructose corn syrup worse than plain sugar?
>>> You are an idiot.

>>
>> It's linked to heart problems in diabetics. And I am a diabetic. I
>> don't eat cinnamon rolls in any way shape or form.

>
> Sorry, your husband is an idiot. You are merely a moron.
> Regular sugar cause all the same problems as HFCS.


Oh. So sugar causes heart problems in diabetes? Cite please!


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On Jan 28, 3:01*pm, "Julie Bove" > wrote:
> Bryan wrote:
> > On Jan 24, 9:22 am, "Julie Bove" > wrote:
> >> Bryan wrote:
> >>> On Jan 24, 2:01 am, "Julie Bove" > wrote:
> >>>> spamtrap1888 wrote:
> >>>>> On Jan 23, 5:55 pm, Bryan > wrote:
> >>>>>> On Jan 23, 6:45 pm, "Julie Bove" > wrote:

>
> >>>>>>> Bryan wrote:
> >>>>>>>> On Jan 22, 10:22 pm, "Julie Bove" >
> >>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> Because we were snowed in here for a week and I knew we were
> >>>>>>>>> going to be, I bought two cans of refrigerated biscuits. This
> >>>>>>>>> is not something I normally buy but I knew my bread wouldn't
> >>>>>>>>> be good at the end of the week and apparently you can not buy
> >>>>>>>>> a single loaf of frozen bread dough. I do not keep wheat
> >>>>>>>>> flour in the house because of my daughter's allergy.

>
> >>>>>>>>> So tonight after we finally got out and got some more
> >>>>>>>>> groceries, I noticed some horrible oozing thing in the door of
> >>>>>>>>> the fridge. It was the biscuits. My daughter said they had
> >>>>>>>>> fallen on the floor and they had. I remembered it. And they
> >>>>>>>>> looked intact at the time. But apparently it was enough to pop
> >>>>>>>>> them open.
> >>>>>>>>> And boy did they look bad! The can must have been busted like
> >>>>>>>>> that for a while. They were all dried out with just a few
> >>>>>>>>> moist oozing spots. Ick!

>
> >>>>>>>> Those things are shitty anyway. No one with any sense buys them
> >>>>>>>> in the first place.

>
> >>>>>>> I'm sure they're not the best. But if you are snowed in and
> >>>>>>> hungry...

>
> >>>>>> Every one I've ever seen is made with partially hydrogenated
> >>>>>> oils. You bought poison.

>
> >>>>> Another reason to buy frozen bread: no trans fats:

>
> >>>>> Unbleached enriched white flour (wheat flour, niacin, ferrous
> >>>>> sulfate or reduced iron, thiamin monoitrate, riboflavin follic
> >>>>> acid), water, high fructose corn syrup, yeast, soybean oil and/or
> >>>>> canola oil, salt, malt, sodium stearoyl lactylate, yeast nutrients
> >>>>> (calcium sulfate, ammonium chloride), ascorbic acid, enzyme (added
> >>>>> for improved baking). CONTAINS: WHEAT, SOY

>
> >>> Pillsbury Grands! Cinnamon Rolls, with Icing

>
> >>> Ingredients
> >>> Enriched Flour Bleached (Wheat Flour, Niacin, Ferrous Sulfate,
> >>> Thiamin Mononitrate, Riboflavin, Folic Acid), Water, Sugar,
> >>> Partially Hydrogenated Soybean and/or Cottonseed Oil, Dextrose,
> >>> Wheat Starch, High Fructose Corn Syrup, Baking Powder (Baking Soda,
> >>> Sodium Acid Pyrophosphate, Sodium Aluminum Phosphate), Whey, Salt,
> >>> Corn Starch, Cinnamon, Vital Wheat Gluten, Mono and Diglycerides,
> >>> Corn Syrup Solids, Datem, Sodium Alginate, Xanthan Gum, Natural and
> >>> Artificial Flavor, Polysorbate 60, Potassium Sorbate
> >>> (Preservative), Yellow 5, Red 40, Color Added.

>
> >>> source--
> >>>http://www.wegmans.com/webapp/wcs/st...tDisplay?produ....

>
> >>>> High fructose corn syrup is bad!

>
> >>> How is high fructose corn syrup worse than plain sugar?
> >>> You are an idiot.

>
> >> It's linked to heart problems in diabetics. And I am a diabetic. I
> >> don't eat cinnamon rolls in any way shape or form.

>
> > Sorry, your husband is an idiot. *You are merely a moron.
> > Regular sugar cause all the same problems as HFCS.

>
> Oh. *So sugar causes heart problems in diabetes? *Cite please!


If you weren't a dimwit you'd know that sugar is 50% fructose/50%
glucose, and HFCS is 55% fructose/45% glucose. The difference is very
small.

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On Jan 28, 4:30*pm, Bryan > wrote:
> On Jan 28, 3:01*pm, "Julie Bove" > wrote:
>
>
>
> > Bryan wrote:
> > > On Jan 24, 9:22 am, "Julie Bove" > wrote:
> > >> Bryan wrote:
> > >>> On Jan 24, 2:01 am, "Julie Bove" > wrote:
> > >>>> spamtrap1888 wrote:
> > >>>>> On Jan 23, 5:55 pm, Bryan > wrote:
> > >>>>>> On Jan 23, 6:45 pm, "Julie Bove" > wrote:

>
> > >>>>>>> Bryan wrote:
> > >>>>>>>> On Jan 22, 10:22 pm, "Julie Bove" >
> > >>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>> Because we were snowed in here for a week and I knew we were
> > >>>>>>>>> going to be, I bought two cans of refrigerated biscuits. This
> > >>>>>>>>> is not something I normally buy but I knew my bread wouldn't
> > >>>>>>>>> be good at the end of the week and apparently you can not buy
> > >>>>>>>>> a single loaf of frozen bread dough. I do not keep wheat
> > >>>>>>>>> flour in the house because of my daughter's allergy.

>
> > >>>>>>>>> So tonight after we finally got out and got some more
> > >>>>>>>>> groceries, I noticed some horrible oozing thing in the door of
> > >>>>>>>>> the fridge. It was the biscuits. My daughter said they had
> > >>>>>>>>> fallen on the floor and they had. I remembered it. And they
> > >>>>>>>>> looked intact at the time. But apparently it was enough to pop
> > >>>>>>>>> them open.
> > >>>>>>>>> And boy did they look bad! The can must have been busted like
> > >>>>>>>>> that for a while. They were all dried out with just a few
> > >>>>>>>>> moist oozing spots. Ick!

>
> > >>>>>>>> Those things are shitty anyway. No one with any sense buys them
> > >>>>>>>> in the first place.

>
> > >>>>>>> I'm sure they're not the best. But if you are snowed in and
> > >>>>>>> hungry...

>
> > >>>>>> Every one I've ever seen is made with partially hydrogenated
> > >>>>>> oils. You bought poison.

>
> > >>>>> Another reason to buy frozen bread: no trans fats:

>
> > >>>>> Unbleached enriched white flour (wheat flour, niacin, ferrous
> > >>>>> sulfate or reduced iron, thiamin monoitrate, riboflavin follic
> > >>>>> acid), water, high fructose corn syrup, yeast, soybean oil and/or
> > >>>>> canola oil, salt, malt, sodium stearoyl lactylate, yeast nutrients
> > >>>>> (calcium sulfate, ammonium chloride), ascorbic acid, enzyme (added
> > >>>>> for improved baking). CONTAINS: WHEAT, SOY

>
> > >>> Pillsbury Grands! Cinnamon Rolls, with Icing

>
> > >>> Ingredients
> > >>> Enriched Flour Bleached (Wheat Flour, Niacin, Ferrous Sulfate,
> > >>> Thiamin Mononitrate, Riboflavin, Folic Acid), Water, Sugar,
> > >>> Partially Hydrogenated Soybean and/or Cottonseed Oil, Dextrose,
> > >>> Wheat Starch, High Fructose Corn Syrup, Baking Powder (Baking Soda,
> > >>> Sodium Acid Pyrophosphate, Sodium Aluminum Phosphate), Whey, Salt,
> > >>> Corn Starch, Cinnamon, Vital Wheat Gluten, Mono and Diglycerides,
> > >>> Corn Syrup Solids, Datem, Sodium Alginate, Xanthan Gum, Natural and
> > >>> Artificial Flavor, Polysorbate 60, Potassium Sorbate
> > >>> (Preservative), Yellow 5, Red 40, Color Added.

>
> > >>> source--
> > >>>http://www.wegmans.com/webapp/wcs/st...tDisplay?produ...

>
> > >>>> High fructose corn syrup is bad!

>
> > >>> How is high fructose corn syrup worse than plain sugar?
> > >>> You are an idiot.

>
> > >> It's linked to heart problems in diabetics. And I am a diabetic. I
> > >> don't eat cinnamon rolls in any way shape or form.

>
> > > Sorry, your husband is an idiot. *You are merely a moron.
> > > Regular sugar cause all the same problems as HFCS.

>
> > Oh. *So sugar causes heart problems in diabetes? *Cite please!

>
> If you weren't a dimwit you'd know that sugar is 50% fructose/50%
> glucose, and HFCS is 55% fructose/45% glucose. *The difference is very
> small.
>
> --Bryan


I though cane sugar was sucrose?

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On Jan 28, 4:50*pm, John Kuthe > wrote:
> On Jan 28, 4:30*pm, Bryan > wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Jan 28, 3:01*pm, "Julie Bove" > wrote:

>
> > > Bryan wrote:
> > > > On Jan 24, 9:22 am, "Julie Bove" > wrote:
> > > >> Bryan wrote:
> > > >>> On Jan 24, 2:01 am, "Julie Bove" > wrote:
> > > >>>> spamtrap1888 wrote:
> > > >>>>> On Jan 23, 5:55 pm, Bryan > wrote:
> > > >>>>>> On Jan 23, 6:45 pm, "Julie Bove" > wrote:

>
> > > >>>>>>> Bryan wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>> On Jan 22, 10:22 pm, "Julie Bove" >
> > > >>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>>> Because we were snowed in here for a week and I knew we were
> > > >>>>>>>>> going to be, I bought two cans of refrigerated biscuits. This
> > > >>>>>>>>> is not something I normally buy but I knew my bread wouldn't
> > > >>>>>>>>> be good at the end of the week and apparently you can not buy
> > > >>>>>>>>> a single loaf of frozen bread dough. I do not keep wheat
> > > >>>>>>>>> flour in the house because of my daughter's allergy.

>
> > > >>>>>>>>> So tonight after we finally got out and got some more
> > > >>>>>>>>> groceries, I noticed some horrible oozing thing in the door of
> > > >>>>>>>>> the fridge. It was the biscuits. My daughter said they had
> > > >>>>>>>>> fallen on the floor and they had. I remembered it. And they
> > > >>>>>>>>> looked intact at the time. But apparently it was enough to pop
> > > >>>>>>>>> them open.
> > > >>>>>>>>> And boy did they look bad! The can must have been busted like
> > > >>>>>>>>> that for a while. They were all dried out with just a few
> > > >>>>>>>>> moist oozing spots. Ick!

>
> > > >>>>>>>> Those things are shitty anyway. No one with any sense buys them
> > > >>>>>>>> in the first place.

>
> > > >>>>>>> I'm sure they're not the best. But if you are snowed in and
> > > >>>>>>> hungry...

>
> > > >>>>>> Every one I've ever seen is made with partially hydrogenated
> > > >>>>>> oils. You bought poison.

>
> > > >>>>> Another reason to buy frozen bread: no trans fats:

>
> > > >>>>> Unbleached enriched white flour (wheat flour, niacin, ferrous
> > > >>>>> sulfate or reduced iron, thiamin monoitrate, riboflavin follic
> > > >>>>> acid), water, high fructose corn syrup, yeast, soybean oil and/or
> > > >>>>> canola oil, salt, malt, sodium stearoyl lactylate, yeast nutrients
> > > >>>>> (calcium sulfate, ammonium chloride), ascorbic acid, enzyme (added
> > > >>>>> for improved baking). CONTAINS: WHEAT, SOY

>
> > > >>> Pillsbury Grands! Cinnamon Rolls, with Icing

>
> > > >>> Ingredients
> > > >>> Enriched Flour Bleached (Wheat Flour, Niacin, Ferrous Sulfate,
> > > >>> Thiamin Mononitrate, Riboflavin, Folic Acid), Water, Sugar,
> > > >>> Partially Hydrogenated Soybean and/or Cottonseed Oil, Dextrose,
> > > >>> Wheat Starch, High Fructose Corn Syrup, Baking Powder (Baking Soda,
> > > >>> Sodium Acid Pyrophosphate, Sodium Aluminum Phosphate), Whey, Salt,
> > > >>> Corn Starch, Cinnamon, Vital Wheat Gluten, Mono and Diglycerides,
> > > >>> Corn Syrup Solids, Datem, Sodium Alginate, Xanthan Gum, Natural and
> > > >>> Artificial Flavor, Polysorbate 60, Potassium Sorbate
> > > >>> (Preservative), Yellow 5, Red 40, Color Added.

>
> > > >>> source--
> > > >>>http://www.wegmans.com/webapp/wcs/st...tDisplay?produ...

>
> > > >>>> High fructose corn syrup is bad!

>
> > > >>> How is high fructose corn syrup worse than plain sugar?
> > > >>> You are an idiot.

>
> > > >> It's linked to heart problems in diabetics. And I am a diabetic. I
> > > >> don't eat cinnamon rolls in any way shape or form.

>
> > > > Sorry, your husband is an idiot. *You are merely a moron.
> > > > Regular sugar cause all the same problems as HFCS.

>
> > > Oh. *So sugar causes heart problems in diabetes? *Cite please!

>
> > If you weren't a dimwit you'd know that sugar is 50% fructose/50%
> > glucose, and HFCS is 55% fructose/45% glucose. *The difference is very
> > small.

>
> > --Bryan

>
> I though cane sugar was sucrose?
>
> John Kuthe...


AHA!!!

"In food, "sugars" refer to all monosaccharides and disaccharides
present in food, but excludes polyols,[4] while in its singular form,
"sugar" normally refers to sucrose. "

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sugar

I was correct!

John Kuthe...
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