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metspitzer 30-01-2012 11:02 PM

OT Gout
 
Since Google Groups has ruined Google's Usenet search I was unable to
find an active group about gout.

I have had gout flare up in both feet at separate times. My
podiatrist gave me an injection of steroids directly in my foot.

Because he is only in my town on certain days and not today, I called
my regular doctor. I was expecting a shot in my foot. After talking
to the doctor, the nurse came in and asked....Arm or hip? When I told
her I was expecting it in my foot she went back and asked the doctor
and came back with the only explanation...........He says we don't do
that.

She said that it wouldn't make a lot of difference. I am guessing
that a local injection would have been better. No?

Goomba[_2_] 30-01-2012 11:10 PM

OT Gout
 
On 1/30/12 6:02 PM, Metspitzer wrote:
> Since Google Groups has ruined Google's Usenet search I was unable to
> find an active group about gout.
>
> I have had gout flare up in both feet at separate times. My
> podiatrist gave me an injection of steroids directly in my foot.
>
> Because he is only in my town on certain days and not today, I called
> my regular doctor. I was expecting a shot in my foot. After talking
> to the doctor, the nurse came in and asked....Arm or hip? When I told
> her I was expecting it in my foot she went back and asked the doctor
> and came back with the only explanation...........He says we don't do
> that.
>
> She said that it wouldn't make a lot of difference. I am guessing
> that a local injection would have been better. No?



good grief, why put this on a FOOD group? Why didn't you pick some other
obscure group to post an off topic question to.

Did you even bother to ask if what they were injecting was the *same*
drug as what your podiatrist gave you!?

metspitzer 30-01-2012 11:23 PM

OT Gout
 
On Mon, 30 Jan 2012 18:10:03 -0500, Goomba >
wrote:

>On 1/30/12 6:02 PM, Metspitzer wrote:
>> Since Google Groups has ruined Google's Usenet search I was unable to
>> find an active group about gout.
>>
>> I have had gout flare up in both feet at separate times. My
>> podiatrist gave me an injection of steroids directly in my foot.
>>
>> Because he is only in my town on certain days and not today, I called
>> my regular doctor. I was expecting a shot in my foot. After talking
>> to the doctor, the nurse came in and asked....Arm or hip? When I told
>> her I was expecting it in my foot she went back and asked the doctor
>> and came back with the only explanation...........He says we don't do
>> that.
>>
>> She said that it wouldn't make a lot of difference. I am guessing
>> that a local injection would have been better. No?

>
>
>good grief, why put this on a FOOD group? Why didn't you pick some other
>obscure group to post an off topic question to.


Because I figured a lot of you fat fuKs would know about gout. (Just
kidding)

I picked this group because after pages and pages of searching for
gout, this was the first Usenet group that I found a post about gout
in. I figure an off topic post would get more comments in an active
group than picking some obscure group.

The shot was cortisone. I did ask the doctor that when she was in the
room. It is the same drug as the podiatrist gives.

>
>Did you even bother to ask if what they were injecting was the *same*
>drug as what your podiatrist gave you!?


projectile vomit chick[_3_] 30-01-2012 11:43 PM

OT Gout
 
On Jan 30, 5:02*pm, Metspitzer > wrote:
> Since Google Groups has ruined Google's Usenet search I was unable to
> find an active group about gout.
>
> I have had gout flare up in both feet at separate times. *My
> podiatrist gave me an injection of steroids directly in my foot.
>
> Because he is only in my town on certain days and not today, I called
> my regular doctor. *I was expecting a shot in my foot. *After talking
> to the doctor, the nurse came in and asked....Arm or hip? *When I told
> her I was expecting it in my foot she went back and asked the doctor
> and came back with the only explanation...........He says we don't do
> that.
>
> She said that it wouldn't make a lot of difference. *I am guessing
> that a local injection would have been better. *No?


Well, who gives a ****?

sf[_9_] 30-01-2012 11:44 PM

OT Gout
 
On Mon, 30 Jan 2012 18:23:23 -0500, Metspitzer >
wrote:

> On Mon, 30 Jan 2012 18:10:03 -0500, Goomba >
> wrote:
>
> >On 1/30/12 6:02 PM, Metspitzer wrote:
> >> Since Google Groups has ruined Google's Usenet search I was unable to
> >> find an active group about gout.
> >>
> >> I have had gout flare up in both feet at separate times. My
> >> podiatrist gave me an injection of steroids directly in my foot.
> >>
> >> Because he is only in my town on certain days and not today, I called
> >> my regular doctor. I was expecting a shot in my foot. After talking
> >> to the doctor, the nurse came in and asked....Arm or hip? When I told
> >> her I was expecting it in my foot she went back and asked the doctor
> >> and came back with the only explanation...........He says we don't do
> >> that.
> >>
> >> She said that it wouldn't make a lot of difference. I am guessing
> >> that a local injection would have been better. No?

> >
> >
> >good grief, why put this on a FOOD group? Why didn't you pick some other
> >obscure group to post an off topic question to.

>
> Because I figured a lot of you fat fuKs would know about gout. (Just
> kidding)
>
> I picked this group because after pages and pages of searching for
> gout, this was the first Usenet group that I found a post about gout
> in. I figure an off topic post would get more comments in an active
> group than picking some obscure group.
>
> The shot was cortisone. I did ask the doctor that when she was in the
> room. It is the same drug as the podiatrist gives.
>

Gout is not off topic in a food group because food triggers it and it
can be controlled by not eating certain things. Unfortunately,
everyone has their own personal triggers and if you're going to
control your gout by your diet - you need to figure out what they are.
My husband figured out that shellfish triggered his gout and he has
also cut way back on red meat, which was a contributing factor. So
between not eating one and limiting the other, he hasn't had an attack
in years. Other people just take a pill and eat whatever they want.

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Chemo the Clown[_2_] 30-01-2012 11:48 PM

OT Gout
 
On Jan 30, 3:43*pm, projectile vomit chick
> wrote:
> On Jan 30, 5:02*pm, Metspitzer > wrote:
>
> > Since Google Groups has ruined Google's Usenet search I was unable to
> > find an active group about gout.

>
> > I have had gout flare up in both feet at separate times. *My
> > podiatrist gave me an injection of steroids directly in my foot.

>
> > Because he is only in my town on certain days and not today, I called
> > my regular doctor. *I was expecting a shot in my foot. *After talking
> > to the doctor, the nurse came in and asked....Arm or hip? *When I told
> > her I was expecting it in my foot she went back and asked the doctor
> > and came back with the only explanation...........He says we don't do
> > that.

>
> > She said that it wouldn't make a lot of difference. *I am guessing
> > that a local injection would have been better. *No?

>
> Well, who gives a ****?


Will you give a ****...and if so, how much?

Steve Pope 31-01-2012 12:00 AM

OT Gout
 
Locally injected cortisone would be an unusual, but not unheard-of
part of a gout treatment.

I think you need to keep communicating with your doctor. Gout is
usually treated at the primary-care level; you should not need
a specialist.

Good luck.


Steve


BillyZoom 31-01-2012 12:18 AM

OT Gout
 
On Jan 30, 6:02*pm, Metspitzer > wrote:
> Since Google Groups has ruined Google's Usenet search I was unable to
> find an active group about gout.
>
> I have had gout flare up in both feet at separate times. *My
> podiatrist gave me an injection of steroids directly in my foot.
>
> Because he is only in my town on certain days and not today, I called
> my regular doctor. *I was expecting a shot in my foot. *After talking
> to the doctor, the nurse came in and asked....Arm or hip? *When I told
> her I was expecting it in my foot she went back and asked the doctor
> and came back with the only explanation...........He says we don't do
> that.
>
> She said that it wouldn't make a lot of difference. *I am guessing
> that a local injection would have been better. *No?


Ask Bovine. I'm sure she has it or will soon claim to.

metspitzer 31-01-2012 12:25 AM

OT Gout
 
On Tue, 31 Jan 2012 00:00:05 +0000 (UTC),
(Steve Pope) wrote:

>Locally injected cortisone would be an unusual, but not unheard-of
>part of a gout treatment.
>
>I think you need to keep communicating with your doctor. Gout is
>usually treated at the primary-care level; you should not need
>a specialist.
>

Unless you are a liver transplant patient. I can't take allopurinol.

BTW on a side note. The inflammation seems to be noticeably better.
It still hurts, but less.

Taking it in the arm might not make much difference after all, but I
sure did want quicker relief.



Sky 31-01-2012 12:34 AM

OT Gout
 
On 1/30/2012 5:10 PM, Goomba wrote:
> On 1/30/12 6:02 PM, Metspitzer wrote:
>> Since Google Groups has ruined Google's Usenet search I was unable to
>> find an active group about gout.
>>
>> I have had gout flare up in both feet at separate times. My
>> podiatrist gave me an injection of steroids directly in my foot.


(snip)

> good grief, why put this on a FOOD group? Why didn't you pick some other
> obscure group to post an off topic question to.
>
> Did you even bother to ask if what they were injecting was the *same*
> drug as what your podiatrist gave you!?


To the OP, "Metspitzer," instead of seeing a podiatrist about your gout,
you should consult a rheumatologist or a physician who specializes in
arthritis. Even though a podiatrist treats problems specific to feet,
they do not typically specialize in gout or gouty arthritis.

The OP did mark their post as OT. As gout is sometimes/often triggered
by particular foods, especially those high in purines (e.g., shellfish
and red meats are often considered culprits), the post was not
inappropriate, IMO.

With regard to treatment of gout, alas there are not many good ones :/
Spouse has had gout more than 15++ years now and takes allopurinol as a
daily prophylactic to hopefully prevent gout attacks (knock on wood!).
Colchicine was a good medication to treat an acute gout attack (but had
lots of bad side effects), except it is no longer available (bummer).
Thankfully - more knocking on wood - Spouse hasn't had a severe attack
in some years and won't suffer one in the near or far future.

With regard to colchicine, I believe it was was purposely withdrawn from
the 'market' by the big Rx companies because the new drug, "Uloric", was
introduced recently (at quite a considerable cost to the patient, too!).
Colchicine was quite inexpensive.

Sky

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Julie Bove[_2_] 31-01-2012 12:42 AM

OT Gout
 

"Metspitzer" > wrote in message
...
> Since Google Groups has ruined Google's Usenet search I was unable to
> find an active group about gout.
>
> I have had gout flare up in both feet at separate times. My
> podiatrist gave me an injection of steroids directly in my foot.
>
> Because he is only in my town on certain days and not today, I called
> my regular doctor. I was expecting a shot in my foot. After talking
> to the doctor, the nurse came in and asked....Arm or hip? When I told
> her I was expecting it in my foot she went back and asked the doctor
> and came back with the only explanation...........He says we don't do
> that.
>
> She said that it wouldn't make a lot of difference. I am guessing
> that a local injection would have been better. No?


I'm with your Dr. on this one. You don't want to be messing around with
steroids and I don't think that is standard treatment for gout. My husband
is on pills for it but I don't know the name. You need to change your diet
too. And add cherry juice.



Julie Bove[_2_] 31-01-2012 12:43 AM

OT Gout
 

"Goomba" > wrote in message
...
> On 1/30/12 6:02 PM, Metspitzer wrote:
>> Since Google Groups has ruined Google's Usenet search I was unable to
>> find an active group about gout.
>>
>> I have had gout flare up in both feet at separate times. My
>> podiatrist gave me an injection of steroids directly in my foot.
>>
>> Because he is only in my town on certain days and not today, I called
>> my regular doctor. I was expecting a shot in my foot. After talking
>> to the doctor, the nurse came in and asked....Arm or hip? When I told
>> her I was expecting it in my foot she went back and asked the doctor
>> and came back with the only explanation...........He says we don't do
>> that.
>>
>> She said that it wouldn't make a lot of difference. I am guessing
>> that a local injection would have been better. No?

>
>
> good grief, why put this on a FOOD group? Why didn't you pick some other
> obscure group to post an off topic question to.


Why *not* put it here? The biggest thing one can do for gout is to to
change the diet. Right? Right? Right!
>
> Did you even bother to ask if what they were injecting was the *same* drug
> as what your podiatrist gave you!?




metspitzer 31-01-2012 12:47 AM

OT Gout
 
On Mon, 30 Jan 2012 18:38:21 -0600, Sqwertz >
wrote:

>On Mon, 30 Jan 2012 18:02:29 -0500, Metspitzer wrote:
>
>> I was unable to find an active group about gout.

>
>Have you tried:
>
>http://aboutgout.com/
>
>-sw

Thanks

Janet 31-01-2012 12:48 AM

OT Gout
 
In article >,
says...
>
> Since Google Groups has ruined Google's Usenet search I was unable to
> find an active group about gout.
>
> I have had gout flare up in both feet at separate times.


Ouch! I hope they've given you some advice on which foods to avoid

Janet

metspitzer 31-01-2012 12:49 AM

OT Gout
 
On Mon, 30 Jan 2012 18:34:35 -0600, Sky >
wrote:

>On 1/30/2012 5:10 PM, Goomba wrote:
>> On 1/30/12 6:02 PM, Metspitzer wrote:
>>> Since Google Groups has ruined Google's Usenet search I was unable to
>>> find an active group about gout.
>>>
>>> I have had gout flare up in both feet at separate times. My
>>> podiatrist gave me an injection of steroids directly in my foot.

>
>(snip)
>
>> good grief, why put this on a FOOD group? Why didn't you pick some other
>> obscure group to post an off topic question to.
>>
>> Did you even bother to ask if what they were injecting was the *same*
>> drug as what your podiatrist gave you!?

>
>To the OP, "Metspitzer," instead of seeing a podiatrist about your gout,
>you should consult a rheumatologist or a physician who specializes in
>arthritis. Even though a podiatrist treats problems specific to feet,
>they do not typically specialize in gout or gouty arthritis.
>

Good suggestion
Thanks

>The OP did mark their post as OT. As gout is sometimes/often triggered
>by particular foods, especially those high in purines (e.g., shellfish
>and red meats are often considered culprits), the post was not
>inappropriate, IMO.
>
>With regard to treatment of gout, alas there are not many good ones :/
>Spouse has had gout more than 15++ years now and takes allopurinol as a
>daily prophylactic to hopefully prevent gout attacks (knock on wood!).
>Colchicine was a good medication to treat an acute gout attack (but had
>lots of bad side effects), except it is no longer available (bummer).
>Thankfully - more knocking on wood - Spouse hasn't had a severe attack
>in some years and won't suffer one in the near or far future.
>
>With regard to colchicine, I believe it was was purposely withdrawn from
>the 'market' by the big Rx companies because the new drug, "Uloric", was
>introduced recently (at quite a considerable cost to the patient, too!).
> Colchicine was quite inexpensive.
>
>Sky


metspitzer 31-01-2012 12:52 AM

OT Gout
 
On Mon, 30 Jan 2012 16:42:42 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
>"Metspitzer" > wrote in message
.. .
>> Since Google Groups has ruined Google's Usenet search I was unable to
>> find an active group about gout.
>>
>> I have had gout flare up in both feet at separate times. My
>> podiatrist gave me an injection of steroids directly in my foot.
>>
>> Because he is only in my town on certain days and not today, I called
>> my regular doctor. I was expecting a shot in my foot. After talking
>> to the doctor, the nurse came in and asked....Arm or hip? When I told
>> her I was expecting it in my foot she went back and asked the doctor
>> and came back with the only explanation...........He says we don't do
>> that.
>>
>> She said that it wouldn't make a lot of difference. I am guessing
>> that a local injection would have been better. No?

>
>I'm with your Dr. on this one. You don't want to be messing around with
>steroids and I don't think that is standard treatment for gout. My husband
>is on pills for it but I don't know the name. You need to change your diet
>too. And add cherry juice.
>

Eating cherries was actually mentioned in foods to eat.

Thanks

BTW the list of foods I am allowed to eat is almost blank now. :)

Cherries
Weeds
Nothing with flavor

metspitzer 31-01-2012 12:53 AM

OT Gout
 
On Mon, 30 Jan 2012 18:34:35 -0600, Sky >
wrote:

>On 1/30/2012 5:10 PM, Goomba wrote:
>> On 1/30/12 6:02 PM, Metspitzer wrote:
>>> Since Google Groups has ruined Google's Usenet search I was unable to
>>> find an active group about gout.
>>>
>>> I have had gout flare up in both feet at separate times. My
>>> podiatrist gave me an injection of steroids directly in my foot.

>
>(snip)
>
>> good grief, why put this on a FOOD group? Why didn't you pick some other
>> obscure group to post an off topic question to.
>>
>> Did you even bother to ask if what they were injecting was the *same*
>> drug as what your podiatrist gave you!?

>
>To the OP, "Metspitzer," instead of seeing a podiatrist about your gout,
>you should consult a rheumatologist or a physician who specializes in
>arthritis. Even though a podiatrist treats problems specific to feet,
>they do not typically specialize in gout or gouty arthritis.
>
>The OP did mark their post as OT. As gout is sometimes/often triggered
>by particular foods, especially those high in purines (e.g., shellfish
>and red meats are often considered culprits), the post was not
>inappropriate, IMO.


I can pretty much tell by tasting something if I am supposed to eat
it. If I like it, it is bad for me.
>
>With regard to treatment of gout, alas there are not many good ones :/
>Spouse has had gout more than 15++ years now and takes allopurinol as a
>daily prophylactic to hopefully prevent gout attacks (knock on wood!).
>Colchicine was a good medication to treat an acute gout attack (but had
>lots of bad side effects), except it is no longer available (bummer).
>Thankfully - more knocking on wood - Spouse hasn't had a severe attack
>in some years and won't suffer one in the near or far future.
>
>With regard to colchicine, I believe it was was purposely withdrawn from
>the 'market' by the big Rx companies because the new drug, "Uloric", was
>introduced recently (at quite a considerable cost to the patient, too!).
> Colchicine was quite inexpensive.
>
>Sky


Sky 31-01-2012 12:57 AM

OT Gout
 
On 1/30/2012 6:42 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>

(snip)
> My husband
> is on pills for it but I don't know the name. You need to change your diet
> too. And add cherry juice.


More than likely he takes allopurinol or probenecid to help prevent his
gout. BTW, drinking 'cherry juice' to treat gout is anecdotal, I
believe. Some folks with gout may benefit from the cherry juice, but
that's not a proven remedy for 'all' folks who suffer gout. Reference
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/gou...ative-medicine

Sky

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metspitzer 31-01-2012 12:57 AM

OT Gout
 
On Mon, 30 Jan 2012 16:18:34 -0800 (PST), BillyZoom
> wrote:

>On Jan 30, 6:02*pm, Metspitzer > wrote:
>> Since Google Groups has ruined Google's Usenet search I was unable to
>> find an active group about gout.
>>
>> I have had gout flare up in both feet at separate times. *My
>> podiatrist gave me an injection of steroids directly in my foot.
>>
>> Because he is only in my town on certain days and not today, I called
>> my regular doctor. *I was expecting a shot in my foot. *After talking
>> to the doctor, the nurse came in and asked....Arm or hip? *When I told
>> her I was expecting it in my foot she went back and asked the doctor
>> and came back with the only explanation...........He says we don't do
>> that.
>>
>> She said that it wouldn't make a lot of difference. *I am guessing
>> that a local injection would have been better. *No?

>
>Ask Bovine. I'm sure she has it or will soon claim to.


grin

I am not a doctor, but I play one on the Internet.

Julie Bove[_2_] 31-01-2012 01:07 AM

OT Gout
 

"Metspitzer" > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 30 Jan 2012 16:42:42 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>"Metspitzer" > wrote in message
. ..
>>> Since Google Groups has ruined Google's Usenet search I was unable to
>>> find an active group about gout.
>>>
>>> I have had gout flare up in both feet at separate times. My
>>> podiatrist gave me an injection of steroids directly in my foot.
>>>
>>> Because he is only in my town on certain days and not today, I called
>>> my regular doctor. I was expecting a shot in my foot. After talking
>>> to the doctor, the nurse came in and asked....Arm or hip? When I told
>>> her I was expecting it in my foot she went back and asked the doctor
>>> and came back with the only explanation...........He says we don't do
>>> that.
>>>
>>> She said that it wouldn't make a lot of difference. I am guessing
>>> that a local injection would have been better. No?

>>
>>I'm with your Dr. on this one. You don't want to be messing around with
>>steroids and I don't think that is standard treatment for gout. My
>>husband
>>is on pills for it but I don't know the name. You need to change your
>>diet
>>too. And add cherry juice.
>>

> Eating cherries was actually mentioned in foods to eat.
>
> Thanks
>
> BTW the list of foods I am allowed to eat is almost blank now. :)
>
> Cherries
> Weeds
> Nothing with flavor


Sowwy.



Julie Bove[_2_] 31-01-2012 01:08 AM

OT Gout
 

"Sky" > wrote in message
...
> On 1/30/2012 6:42 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>

> (snip)
>> My husband
>> is on pills for it but I don't know the name. You need to change your
>> diet
>> too. And add cherry juice.

>
> More than likely he takes allopurinol or probenecid to help prevent his
> gout. BTW, drinking 'cherry juice' to treat gout is anecdotal, I believe.
> Some folks with gout may benefit from the cherry juice, but that's not a
> proven remedy for 'all' folks who suffer gout. Reference
> http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/gou...ative-medicine
>
> Sky


Okay...



Cheryl[_3_] 31-01-2012 01:10 AM

OT Gout
 
On 1/30/2012 6:44 PM, sf wrote:

> Gout is not off topic in a food group because food triggers it and it
> can be controlled by not eating certain things. Unfortunately,
> everyone has their own personal triggers and if you're going to
> control your gout by your diet - you need to figure out what they are.
> My husband figured out that shellfish triggered his gout and he has
> also cut way back on red meat, which was a contributing factor. So
> between not eating one and limiting the other, he hasn't had an attack
> in years. Other people just take a pill and eat whatever they want.


A guy I work with has it and his trigger is salt.


Goomba[_2_] 31-01-2012 02:04 AM

OT Gout
 
On 1/30/12 7:43 PM, Julie Bove wrote:

> Why *not* put it here? The biggest thing one can do for gout is to to
> change the diet. Right? Right? Right!


Then he should have asked about the diet instead of the mystery
injection, right? Right? Right!

sf[_9_] 31-01-2012 02:09 AM

OT Gout
 
On Mon, 30 Jan 2012 20:10:08 -0500, Cheryl >
wrote:

> On 1/30/2012 6:44 PM, sf wrote:
>
> > Gout is not off topic in a food group because food triggers it and it
> > can be controlled by not eating certain things. Unfortunately,
> > everyone has their own personal triggers and if you're going to
> > control your gout by your diet - you need to figure out what they are.
> > My husband figured out that shellfish triggered his gout and he has
> > also cut way back on red meat, which was a contributing factor. So
> > between not eating one and limiting the other, he hasn't had an attack
> > in years. Other people just take a pill and eat whatever they want.

>
> A guy I work with has it and his trigger is salt.


OMG! There's salt in *everything*. How does he control it?

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sf[_9_] 31-01-2012 02:26 AM

OT Gout
 
On Mon, 30 Jan 2012 21:04:50 -0500, Goomba >
wrote:

> On 1/30/12 7:43 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> > Why *not* put it here? The biggest thing one can do for gout is to to
> > change the diet. Right? Right? Right!

>
> Then he should have asked about the diet instead of the mystery
> injection, right? Right? Right!


When people are in pain, they just want it to go away and they don't
care how. If it was his first gout attack, he probably didn't know it
was gout when he went in to the doctor's and trusted the Dr to do the
right thing. Why didn't the Dr. give him printed information about
gout and sign him up for a class?

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metspitzer 31-01-2012 02:41 AM

OT Gout
 
On Mon, 30 Jan 2012 19:59:29 -0600, Sqwertz >
wrote:

>On Mon, 30 Jan 2012 19:47:40 -0500, Metspitzer wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 30 Jan 2012 18:38:21 -0600, Sqwertz >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>On Mon, 30 Jan 2012 18:02:29 -0500, Metspitzer wrote:
>>>
>>>> I was unable to find an active group about gout.
>>>
>>>Have you tried:
>>>
>>>http://aboutgout.com/
>>>

>> Thanks

>
>Dumbass didn't even look at the link first.
>
>Oh, you're welcome, BTW!
>
>-sw


I really didn't give a shit, but I though you might have been being
nice for once. I should have known better.

Sour, angry, little man.

Cheryl[_3_] 31-01-2012 03:09 AM

OT Gout
 
On 1/30/2012 9:09 PM, sf wrote:
> On Mon, 30 Jan 2012 20:10:08 -0500, >
> wrote:
>
>> On 1/30/2012 6:44 PM, sf wrote:
>>
>>> Gout is not off topic in a food group because food triggers it and it
>>> can be controlled by not eating certain things. Unfortunately,
>>> everyone has their own personal triggers and if you're going to
>>> control your gout by your diet - you need to figure out what they are.
>>> My husband figured out that shellfish triggered his gout and he has
>>> also cut way back on red meat, which was a contributing factor. So
>>> between not eating one and limiting the other, he hasn't had an attack
>>> in years. Other people just take a pill and eat whatever they want.

>>
>> A guy I work with has it and his trigger is salt.

>
> OMG! There's salt in *everything*. How does he control it?
>


He has a hard time with it that's for sure. Maybe it's just excess salt.


Judy Haffner 31-01-2012 03:54 AM

OT Gout
 

Metspitzer wrote:

>I have had gout flare up in both feet at
> separate times. My podiatrist gave me
> an injection of steroids directly in my
> foot.


>Because he is only in my town on certain
> days and not today, I called my regular
> doctor. I was expecting a shot in my
> foot. After talking to the doctor, the
> nurse came in and asked....Arm or hip?
> When I told her I was expecting it in my
> foot she went back and asked the doctor
> and came back with the only
> explanation...........He says we don't do
> that.


>She said that it wouldn't make a lot of
> difference. I am guessing that a local
> injection would have been better. No?


I really do sympathize with you! I had my first experience with Gout
this past summer, and suffered quite awhile before I went to the doctor,
as thought it was just arthritis, like my mother and grandmother had in
their hands. Come to find out it was Gout that had hit a couple of my
fingers. I was surprised, as I know when my dad had it, it was in a big
toe! Come to find out it is becoming more common to hit the fingers
anymore, as that's where I'm mostly bothered when I have a flare-up.
Only once I had it in a big toe.

My doctor didn't put much emphasis on foods, but blamed the many years
I've been on blood pressure medication, that caused my uric acid count
to to be high. He never mentioned any type of shot, but prescribed
Naproxen when I'm having an onset, for the pain, and then prescribed
Alopurinal to take daily, but the instructions said to drink TEN glasses
of water a day while taking it, and if they mean 8 oz. glasses, that is
80 oz. in a day...I would drown for sure!! :( I'm not a big water
drinker, but trying to force myself to drink more, as that helps with
the uric acid. Needless, to say I'm not taking the Alopurinal, but
luckily I'm not bothered that much. Might wake up with a red swollen
finger, but in a day, or two, it's fine.

Tried cherry juice and that didn't do a thing.

Good luck!
Judy


Ed Pawlowski 31-01-2012 03:55 AM

OT Gout
 
On Mon, 30 Jan 2012 16:43:28 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:



>The biggest thing one can do for gout is to to
>change the diet. Right? Right? Right!
>>



If you know what triggers it. I have a mild flare up every couple of
months but have no idea what the food connection really is. Yes,
weather can affect it a bit too. Meantime, it is more discomfort than
real pain, but no food connection has surfaced yet.

[email protected] 31-01-2012 03:58 AM

OT Gout
 
Sky wrote:
> On 1/30/2012 5:10 PM, Goomba wrote:
>> On 1/30/12 6:02 PM, Metspitzer wrote:
>>> Since Google Groups has ruined Google's Usenet search I was unable to
>>> find an active group about gout.
>>>
>>> I have had gout flare up in both feet at separate times. My
>>> podiatrist gave me an injection of steroids directly in my foot.

>
> (snip)
>
>> good grief, why put this on a FOOD group? Why didn't you pick some other
>> obscure group to post an off topic question to.
>>
>> Did you even bother to ask if what they were injecting was the *same*
>> drug as what your podiatrist gave you!?

>
> To the OP, "Metspitzer," instead of seeing a podiatrist about your gout,
> you should consult a rheumatologist or a physician who specializes in
> arthritis. Even though a podiatrist treats problems specific to feet,
> they do not typically specialize in gout or gouty arthritis.
>
> The OP did mark their post as OT. As gout is sometimes/often triggered
> by particular foods, especially those high in purines (e.g., shellfish
> and red meats are often considered culprits), the post was not
> inappropriate, IMO.
>
> With regard to treatment of gout, alas there are not many good ones :/
> Spouse has had gout more than 15++ years now and takes allopurinol as a
> daily prophylactic to hopefully prevent gout attacks (knock on wood!).
> Colchicine was a good medication to treat an acute gout attack (but had
> lots of bad side effects), except it is no longer available (bummer).
> Thankfully - more knocking on wood - Spouse hasn't had a severe attack
> in some years and won't suffer one in the near or far future.
>
> With regard to colchicine, I believe it was was purposely withdrawn from
> the 'market' by the big Rx companies because the new drug, "Uloric", was
> introduced recently (at quite a considerable cost to the patient, too!).
> Colchicine was quite inexpensive.
>
> Sky
>

The FDA decided colchicine needed to go through 'clinlcal trials'. Some
company has now done this in 2009 and has exclusive rights to sell the
drug under the brand name 'Colcrys'.
They used to cost 10 cents each. Now the pills are ~$5.00 each (in the
good ol' USA).

Brian

tom 31-01-2012 04:07 AM

OT Gout
 

"Metspitzer" > wrote in message
...
> Since Google Groups has ruined Google's Usenet search I was unable to
> find an active group about gout.


I get relief with this: INDOMETHACIN 25 MG CAPSULE


Cheryl[_3_] 31-01-2012 04:10 AM

OT Gout
 
On 1/30/2012 10:54 PM, Judy Haffner wrote:

> I really do sympathize with you! I had my first experience with Gout
> this past summer, and suffered quite awhile before I went to the doctor,
> as thought it was just arthritis, like my mother and grandmother had in
> their hands. Come to find out it was Gout that had hit a couple of my
> fingers. I was surprised, as I know when my dad had it, it was in a big
> toe! Come to find out it is becoming more common to hit the fingers
> anymore, as that's where I'm mostly bothered when I have a flare-up.
> Only once I had it in a big toe.


I thought I had it in my big toe but a CBC or urinalysis didn't indicate
high uric acid. Come to find out it was bone spurs. Surgery to correct
it did absolutely nothing and now the surgeon wants to fuse the joint.

metspitzer 31-01-2012 04:13 AM

OT Gout
 
On Mon, 30 Jan 2012 21:54:42 -0600, Sqwertz >
wrote:

>On Mon, 30 Jan 2012 21:41:16 -0500, Metspitzer wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 30 Jan 2012 19:59:29 -0600, Sqwertz >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>On Mon, 30 Jan 2012 19:47:40 -0500, Metspitzer wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Mon, 30 Jan 2012 18:38:21 -0600, Sqwertz >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Mon, 30 Jan 2012 18:02:29 -0500, Metspitzer wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I was unable to find an active group about gout.
>>>>>
>>>>>Have you tried:
>>>>>
>>>>>http://aboutgout.com/
>>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>
>>>Dumbass didn't even look at the link first.
>>>
>>>Oh, you're welcome, BTW!

>>
>> I really didn't give a shit, but I though you might have been being
>> nice for once. I should have known better.

>
>Sucker!
>

I get a picture in my head of Squirt standing with his chest in the
ready position.
http://www.google.com/imgres?um=1&hl...:429,r: 2,s:0
85-90 lbs.

Big man.

You go Squirt.

sf[_9_] 31-01-2012 04:19 AM

OT Gout
 
On Mon, 30 Jan 2012 22:55:26 -0500, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

> Meantime, it is more discomfort than
> real pain, but no food connection has surfaced yet.


Gout is more than discomfort. They say it's one of the worst pains.

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sf[_9_] 31-01-2012 04:27 AM

OT Gout
 
On Mon, 30 Jan 2012 18:54:48 -0900, (Judy Haffner)
wrote:

> Come to find out it was Gout that had hit a couple of my
> fingers. I was surprised, as I know when my dad had it, it was in a big
> toe! Come to find out it is becoming more common to hit the fingers
> anymore, as that's where I'm mostly bothered when I have a flare-up.
> Only once I had it in a big toe.


Gout can be show up in any joint. Hubby's is mainly in his knees.

> My doctor didn't put much emphasis on foods, but blamed the many years
> I've been on blood pressure medication, that caused my uric acid count
> to to be high.


Yes, hubby got it because of some medication (probably blood pressure)
too - but he also knows he can't have more than two medium sized
shrimp or he'll get twinges the following day and he's in pure hell if
he eats shrimp or other shellfish two days in a row. If that happens,
he has a pill to take during an attack that he doesn't like because it
makes him so tired.

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[email protected] 31-01-2012 04:30 AM

OT Gout
 
Metspitzer wrote:
> Since Google Groups has ruined Google's Usenet search I was unable to
> find an active group about gout.
>

You could try: http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/gout/
It's not too bad ... you have to weed through some of the posts, but
there is lots of info in the archives.

There's a few schools of thought on how to best control it. One disputed
school is that if you already have it, changing to the perfect diet will
only have a 10-15% reducion in attacks/(uric acid levels?).

Then there's the cherries debate.... (actually, only the Tart
-Montmorency- cherries are the right ones)

Brian

Cheryl[_3_] 31-01-2012 04:33 AM

OT Gout
 
On 1/30/2012 11:13 PM, Metspitzer wrote:
> On Mon, 30 Jan 2012 21:54:42 -0600, >
> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 30 Jan 2012 21:41:16 -0500, Metspitzer wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, 30 Jan 2012 19:59:29 -0600, >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Mon, 30 Jan 2012 19:47:40 -0500, Metspitzer wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, 30 Jan 2012 18:38:21 -0600, >
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, 30 Jan 2012 18:02:29 -0500, Metspitzer wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I was unable to find an active group about gout.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Have you tried:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://aboutgout.com/
>>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>> Dumbass didn't even look at the link first.
>>>>
>>>> Oh, you're welcome, BTW!
>>>
>>> I really didn't give a shit, but I though you might have been being
>>> nice for once. I should have known better.

>>
>> Sucker!
>>

> I get a picture in my head of Squirt standing with his chest in the
> ready position.
> http://www.google.com/imgres?um=1&hl...:429,r: 2,s:0
> 85-90 lbs.
>
> Big man.
>
> You go Squirt.


Yummy.


Paul M. Cook 31-01-2012 04:36 AM

OT Gout
 
> Tried cherry juice and that didn't do a thing.

You need to take 100% pure cherry juice. In its raw form it can be quite
sour. But the stuff they sell in the stores won't cut it. You need to
eliminate foods high in purines. And drinking a lot more water also helps.

Paul



Jerry Avins 31-01-2012 04:42 AM

OT Gout
 
This is a good place. Gout is commonly controlled with diet. His doctor should have told him. Foods high in purines are a problem. Small fishes, like sardines, herring and anchovies tend to bring it on. When I was advised to lay off red meat (for reasons I won't go into) even the occasional mild flare ups I had had went away. The usual "cure" was colchicine, but that is hard in the digestive system. Allopurinol works well as a preventive, but some doctors are reluctant to prescribe it because it can make a severe attack more painful before it clears it. I take a small dose daily and now eat without regard to a possible gout attack. I had been getting gout since my early teens, but it remained a mystery because it affected my knees. The knees cleared up when I started taking allopurinol as an adult.

Jerry
--
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rights of the vilest and most abhorrent are protected."
- Chief Justice Charles Evans Hughes, 1927

Jerry Avins 31-01-2012 04:47 AM

OT Gout
 
On Monday, January 30, 2012 11:19:36 PM UTC-5, sf wrote:
> On Mon, 30 Jan 2012 22:55:26 -0500, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>
> > Meantime, it is more discomfort than
> > real pain, but no food connection has surfaced yet.

>
> Gout is more than discomfort. They say it's one of the worst pains.


It can be mild or severe, just like a headache. But when it is bad, it is horrid.

Jerry
--
"The rights of the best of men are secured only as the
rights of the vilest and most abhorrent are protected."
- Chief Justice Charles Evans Hughes, 1927




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