"notbob" > wrote in message
...
> On 2012-02-09, Terry Pulliam Burd > wrote:
>
>> indulgence I choose to spend my money on. I accommodate my lifestyle
>> commensurately to my income and if that means spending $50 a lb. on
>> coffee, who's to care but my heirs <g>
>
> It begs the question, do you do it to "accommodate my lifestyle" or to
> truly enjoy the flavor of good coffee. Spending a lotta money on K
> cups and other whiz-bang gimmicky hardware jes cuz you have the $$$
> may impress others --maybe even yerself-- but if yer still drinking
> crap coffee, it pretty much misses the point.
>
> nb
>
Kudos, notbob! To me the K cups are nothing more than glorified instant
coffee. If you can (and want to) afford it, great. If you're doing it to
satisfy some status quo, heh. Doesn't impress me.

Jill

"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 08 Feb 2012 11:22:45 -1000, dsi1
> > wrote:
>
>>On 2/8/2012 11:06 AM, ImStillMags wrote:
>>> If you use a single brew coffee machine that uses those little K cups,
>>> did you know that you are paying about $50 a pound for the coffee you
>>> are using? wow......
>>>
>>> http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/08/di...ostly.html?hpw
>>
>>This may be true but that's not a good way to see it. I like to see it
>>as about 50 cents a cup. As it goes, there's always a good way and a bad
>>way to think of things. I like to see things in a cheerful way - with
>>little hopping bunnies and butterflies fluttering about in the sunshine.
>>Otherwise, I'd probably want to blow my ****ing brains out and maybe
>>take a few folks with me while I'm at it.
>
> That 50¢ a cup is either very cheap or very expensive. Depends on your
> perspective. If you use it to replace stooping at Starbucks or Dunkin
> D, it is cheap. If you compare it to brewing a regular 10 cup potful,
> it is very expensive. The machines do have a place, just not at my
> house though. YMMV.
>
> I'm amazed at how long the line of cars can be at DD in the morning.
> It has to be faster to brew at home no matter the method used.


I don't understand the fascination with Dunkin Donuts. I worked with some
people who would get up extra early so they could catch the sign going on
saying the Donuts were ready. They weren't after donuts. What they went
for was the coffee. To Go. I said, "You do realize you can buy DD coffee
[beans or ground] at the grocery store, right?" They just loved going to
DD. Sorry, but I never noticed much of a difference in taste DD and Folgers
brewed at home.

Jill

"Alan Holbrook" > wrote in message
5.247...
> Chemo the Clown > wrote in
> :
>
>> On Feb 8, 1:22 pm, dsi1 > wrote:
>>> On 2/8/2012 11:06 AM, ImStillMags wrote:
>>>
>>> > If you use a single brew coffee machine that uses those little K
>>> > cups, did you know that you are paying about $50 a pound for the
>>> > coffee you are using? wow......
>>>
>>> >http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/08/di...offee-brewers-
>>> >...
>>>
>>> This may be true but that's not a good way to see it. I like to see
>>> it as about 50 cents a cup.
>>
>> Atta boy!
>>
>
> There's also other considerations. I live alone. So making a pot of
> coffee usually means I pour about half the pot down the drain before I go
> to bed. So using K-cups and making only what I'm going to drink makes
> the cost much more tolerable.


I live alone. When I drink coffee I don't just drink a single cup. Usually
two cups. I know how to measure and brew 2 cups of coffee. And it doesn't
cost 50 cents per cup.

Jill

On 2/9/2012 6:06 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On Thu, 09 Feb 2012 09:18:30 GMT, Alan >
> wrote:
>
>> There's also other considerations. I live alone. So making a pot of
>> coffee usually means I pour about half the pot down the drain before I go
>> to bed. So using K-cups and making only what I'm going to drink makes
>> the cost much more tolerable.
>
> My wife makes a pot and has one cup. She reheated it in the microwave
> then next two days. I don't drink it so I have no idea how good it is
> reheated.

I think leaving the heater on is what destroys the taste. We turn it off
immediately after brewed. I don't notice any difference when heated
later. If you leave the heater on you might as well dump it if you don't
use it in a short time.

On Feb 9, 9:17*am, George > wrote:
> On 2/9/2012 6:06 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
> > On Thu, 09 Feb 2012 09:18:30 GMT, Alan >
> > wrote:
>
> >> There's also other considerations. *I live alone. *So making a pot of
> >> coffee usually means I pour about half the pot down the drain before I go
> >> to bed. *So using K-cups and making only what I'm going to drink makes
> >> the cost much more tolerable.
>
> > My wife makes a pot and has one cup. *She reheated it in the microwave
> > then next two days. *I don't drink it so I have no idea how good it is
> > reheated.
>
> I think leaving the heater on is what destroys the taste. We turn it off
> immediately after brewed. I don't notice any difference when heated
> later. If you leave the heater on you might as well dump it if you don't
> use it in a short time.

Exactly. If I was more motivated I'd get in there and cut the wire to
the hot plate.
People who are way pickier about coffee than me refrigerate and
microwave. We just let it sit at room temp and microwave.

--Bryan

On Feb 9, 9:58*am, Bryan > wrote:
> On Feb 9, 9:17*am, George > wrote:
>
>
>
> > On 2/9/2012 6:06 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
> > > On Thu, 09 Feb 2012 09:18:30 GMT, Alan >
> > > wrote:
>
> > >> There's also other considerations. *I live alone. *So making a pot of
> > >> coffee usually means I pour about half the pot down the drain before I go
> > >> to bed. *So using K-cups and making only what I'm going to drink makes
> > >> the cost much more tolerable.
>
> > > My wife makes a pot and has one cup. *She reheated it in the microwave
> > > then next two days. *I don't drink it so I have no idea how good it is
> > > reheated.
>
> > I think leaving the heater on is what destroys the taste. We turn it off
> > immediately after brewed. I don't notice any difference when heated
> > later. If you leave the heater on you might as well dump it if you don't
> > use it in a short time.
>
> Exactly. *If I was more motivated I'd get in there and cut the wire to
> the hot plate.
> People who are way pickier about coffee than me refrigerate and
> microwave. *We just let it sit at room temp and microwave.
>
> --Bryan

Turning the pot off after the brew has the same effect. And if you
keep your kitchen cool enough it's almost like refrigerating!

John Kuthe...

On Wed, 08 Feb 2012 22:21:37 -0500, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

>On Wed, 08 Feb 2012 11:22:45 -1000, dsi1
> wrote:
>
>>On 2/8/2012 11:06 AM, ImStillMags wrote:
>>> If you use a single brew coffee machine that uses those little K cups,
>>> did you know that you are paying about $50 a pound for the coffee you
>>> are using? wow......
>>>
>>> http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/08/di...ostly.html?hpw
>>
>>This may be true but that's not a good way to see it. I like to see it
>>as about 50 cents a cup. As it goes, there's always a good way and a bad
>>way to think of things. I like to see things in a cheerful way - with
>>little hopping bunnies and butterflies fluttering about in the sunshine.
>>Otherwise, I'd probably want to blow my ****ing brains out and maybe
>>take a few folks with me while I'm at it.
>
>That 50¢ a cup is either very cheap or very expensive. Depends on your
>perspective. If you use it to replace stooping at Starbucks or Dunkin
>D, it is cheap. If you compare it to brewing a regular 10 cup potful,
>it is very expensive. The machines do have a place, just not at my
>house though. YMMV.
>
>I'm amazed at how long the line of cars can be at DD in the morning.
>It has to be faster to brew at home no matter the method used.

I've tried most every type of coffee including many years of grinding
my own... nothing beats this 33.9 oz can at the unbelieveable price of
only $6.78, available in various roasts, buy a few cans and shipping
is free:
http://www.walmart.com/search/search...straint=976759

On Feb 9, 10:21*am, Brooklyn1 <Gravesend1> wrote:
> On Wed, 08 Feb 2012 22:21:37 -0500, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
> >On Wed, 08 Feb 2012 11:22:45 -1000, dsi1
> > wrote:
>
> >>On 2/8/2012 11:06 AM, ImStillMags wrote:
> >>> If you use a single brew coffee machine that uses those little K cups,
> >>> did you know that you are paying about $50 a pound for the coffee you
> >>> are using? * *wow......
>
> >>>http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/08/di...offee-brewers-....
>
> >>This may be true but that's not a good way to see it. I like to see it
> >>as about 50 cents a cup. As it goes, there's always a good way and a bad
> >>way to think of things. I like to see things in a cheerful way - with
> >>little hopping bunnies and butterflies fluttering about in the sunshine..
> >>Otherwise, I'd probably want to blow my ****ing brains out and maybe
> >>take a few folks with me while I'm at it.
>
> >That 50¢ a cup is either very cheap or very expensive. Depends on your
> >perspective. *If you use it to replace stooping at Starbucks or Dunkin
> >D, it is cheap. *If you compare it to brewing a regular 10 cup potful,
> >it is very expensive. *The machines do have a place, just not at my
> >house though. *YMMV.
>
> >I'm amazed at how long the line of cars can be at DD in the morning.
> >It has to be faster to brew at home no matter the method used.
>
> I've tried most every type of coffee including many years of grinding
> my own... nothing beats this 33.9 oz can at the unbelieveable price of
> only $6.78, available in various roasts, buy a few cans and shipping
> is free:http://www.walmart.com/search/search...=great+value+c...

Bullshit! A LOT beats anything from MalWart!!

John Kuthe...

On Wed, 8 Feb 2012 13:06:44 -0800 (PST) in rec.food.cooking, ImStillMags
> wrote,
>If you use a single brew coffee machine that uses those little K cups,
>did you know that you are paying about $50 a pound for the coffee you

Yes, *everyone* already knew that.

If you are using K-cups instead of buying coffee by the pound, you are
spending a huge amount of extra money. On the other hand, if using
K-cups saves you from stopping at Starbucks on your daily commute you
are saving a huge amount of money, saving time, getting better coffee,
and making the world a better place.

On 2012-02-09, David Harmon > wrote:

> and making the world a better place.

Jes HTF! does using a disposable --read garbage!-- PLASTIC CUP with a
FOIL COVER and a FILTER make the world a better place? Dolt.

nb

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On Thu, 09 Feb 2012 08:49:05 -0800, David Harmon >
wrote:

>On Wed, 8 Feb 2012 13:06:44 -0800 (PST) in rec.food.cooking, ImStillMags
> wrote,
>>If you use a single brew coffee machine that uses those little K cups,
>>did you know that you are paying about $50 a pound for the coffee you
>
>Yes, *everyone* already knew that.
>
>If you are using K-cups instead of buying coffee by the pound, you are
>spending a huge amount of extra money. On the other hand, if using
>K-cups saves you from stopping at Starbucks on your daily commute you
>are saving a huge amount of money, saving time, getting better coffee,
>and making the world a better place.


The latter comment may not apply. There is much discussion over the
wastefulness of the K-cup plastic packaging, so much so that Keurig
has posted about their efforts to combat it.

http://www.keurig.com/social-responsibility

The NYT article linked below discusses Green Mountain's reactions and
efforts:

http://tinyurl.com/7oecmq3

Boron

On 09/02/2012 12:00 PM, notbob wrote:
> On 2012-02-09, David > wrote:
>
>> and making the world a better place.
>
> Jes HTF! does using a disposable --read garbage!-- PLASTIC CUP with a
> FOIL COVER and a FILTER make the world a better place? Dolt.
>
>


At least they throw them in the kitchen garbage, unlike the millions of
water bottles and togo coffee cups that get tossed on the side of the road.

On Feb 9, 10:09*am, John Kuthe > wrote:
> On Feb 9, 9:58*am, Bryan > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Feb 9, 9:17*am, George > wrote:
>
> > > On 2/9/2012 6:06 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
> > > > On Thu, 09 Feb 2012 09:18:30 GMT, Alan >
> > > > wrote:
>
> > > >> There's also other considerations. *I live alone. *So making a pot of
> > > >> coffee usually means I pour about half the pot down the drain before I go
> > > >> to bed. *So using K-cups and making only what I'm going to drink makes
> > > >> the cost much more tolerable.
>
> > > > My wife makes a pot and has one cup. *She reheated it in the microwave
> > > > then next two days. *I don't drink it so I have no idea how good it is
> > > > reheated.
>
> > > I think leaving the heater on is what destroys the taste. We turn it off
> > > immediately after brewed. I don't notice any difference when heated
> > > later. If you leave the heater on you might as well dump it if you don't
> > > use it in a short time.
>
> > Exactly. *If I was more motivated I'd get in there and cut the wire to
> > the hot plate.
> > People who are way pickier about coffee than me refrigerate and
> > microwave. *We just let it sit at room temp and microwave.
>
> > --Bryan
>
> Turning the pot off after the brew has the same effect. And if you
> keep your kitchen cool enough it's almost like refrigerating!

Turning it off requires being there right when it finishes brewing,
when there might be somewhere else I'd prefer to be.
>
> John Kuthe...

--Bryan

On 2012-02-09, Dave Smith > wrote:

> At least they throw them in the kitchen garbage, unlike the millions of
> water bottles and togo coffee cups that get tossed on the side of the road.

.....as if it makes a difference to our planet's ecosystems whether
pollution is spread out or concentrated in one place.

nb

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On Feb 9, 9:07*am, Dave Smith > wrote:
> On 09/02/2012 12:00 PM, notbob wrote:
>
> > On 2012-02-09, David > *wrote:
>
> >> and making the world a better place.
>
> > Jes HTF! does using a disposable --read garbage!-- PLASTIC CUP with a
> > FOIL COVER and a FILTER make the world a better place? * Dolt.
>
> At least they throw them in the kitchen garbage, unlike the millions of
> water bottles and togo coffee cups that get tossed on the side of the road.

Even still water bottles have cash value in California, so somebody
will pick them up from roadside. Two of the coffee places I patronize
serve in glass mugs -- of course this doesn't work for to-go. There
are alternatives to paper waste: Does *$ offer a discount if you bring
your own mug?

On 2/9/2012 1:06 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On Thu, 09 Feb 2012 09:18:30 GMT, Alan >
> wrote:
>
>> There's also other considerations. I live alone. So making a pot of
>> coffee usually means I pour about half the pot down the drain before I go
>> to bed. So using K-cups and making only what I'm going to drink makes
>> the cost much more tolerable.
>
> My wife makes a pot and has one cup. She reheated it in the microwave
> then next two days. I don't drink it so I have no idea how good it is
> reheated.

I've done this also, since the coffee drinking at home is kinda erratic
and typically it's hard to predict how it's going to go down. Day old
coffee is kind of funky with a taste peculiar to sitting in the pot for
a while. Oddly enough, you can "freshen" up a cup of coffee by adding a
small amount of salt to it.

On 2/8/2012 4:56 PM, critters & me in azusa, ca wrote:
> On Feb 8, 1:22 pm, > wrote:
>> On 2/8/2012 11:06 AM, ImStillMags wrote:
>>
>>> If you use a single brew coffee machine that uses those little K cups,
>>> did you know that you are paying about $50 a pound for the coffee you
>>> are using? wow......
>>
>>> http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/08/di...offee-brewers-...
>>
>> This may be true but that's not a good way to see it. I like to see it
>> as about 50 cents a cup. As it goes, there's always a good way and a bad
>> way to think of things. I like to see things in a cheerful way - with
>> little hopping bunnies and butterflies fluttering about in the sunshine.
>> Otherwise, I'd probably want to blow my ****ing brains out and maybe
>> take a few folks with me while I'm at it.
>
> I love your style...
>
> rotflmao
>
> Harriet& critters

Thanks for not getting offended!

On 09/02/2012 1:07 PM, Kalmia wrote:

> My frugal nature would balk at a Keurig, not to mention one more thing
> to buy, break down, maybe start a fire, take up counter or cupboard
> space.....my usual rant on a lot of new products.

You're right on all counts. I already have a drip coffee machine, an
espresso maker,a burr coffee grinder, a one cup and a 4 cup French press
on my counter. I can make a single cup of good coffee with the press or
the espresso maker. I really don't need to take up more counter space
with another machine. But damn, my niece's Nespresso made good (but
expensive) coffee and my experience with Keurig was that it's just not
worth it.

On Feb 9, 11:18*am, Bryan > wrote:
> On Feb 9, 10:09*am, John Kuthe > wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Feb 9, 9:58*am, Bryan > wrote:
>
> > > On Feb 9, 9:17*am, George > wrote:
>
> > > > On 2/9/2012 6:06 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
> > > > > On Thu, 09 Feb 2012 09:18:30 GMT, Alan >
> > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > >> There's also other considerations. *I live alone. *So making a pot of
> > > > >> coffee usually means I pour about half the pot down the drain before I go
> > > > >> to bed. *So using K-cups and making only what I'm going to drink makes
> > > > >> the cost much more tolerable.
>
> > > > > My wife makes a pot and has one cup. *She reheated it in the microwave
> > > > > then next two days. *I don't drink it so I have no idea how good it is
> > > > > reheated.
>
> > > > I think leaving the heater on is what destroys the taste. We turn it off
> > > > immediately after brewed. I don't notice any difference when heated
> > > > later. If you leave the heater on you might as well dump it if you don't
> > > > use it in a short time.
>
> > > Exactly. *If I was more motivated I'd get in there and cut the wire to
> > > the hot plate.
> > > People who are way pickier about coffee than me refrigerate and
> > > microwave. *We just let it sit at room temp and microwave.
>
> > > --Bryan
>
> > Turning the pot off after the brew has the same effect. And if you
> > keep your kitchen cool enough it's almost like refrigerating!
>
> Turning it off requires being there right when it finishes brewing,
> when there might be somewhere else I'd prefer to be.
>

Or shortly thereafter. Why are you brewing a pot if you are not there
to enjoy the first cup?

John Kuthe...

On 2/8/2012 12:32 PM, ItsJoanNotJoann wrote:
> On Feb 8, 3:22 pm, > wrote:
>>
>> On 2/8/2012 11:06 AM, ImStillMags wrote:
>>
>>> If you use a single brew coffee machine that uses those little K cups,
>>> did you know that you are paying about $50 a pound for the coffee you
>>> are using? wow......
>>
>>> http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/08/di...offee-brewers-...
>>
>> This may be true but that's not a good way to see it. I like to see it
>> as about 50 cents a cup. As it goes, there's always a good way and a bad
>> way to think of things. I like to see things in a cheerful way - with
>> little hopping bunnies and butterflies fluttering about in the sunshine.
>> Otherwise, I'd probably want to blow my ****ing brains out and maybe
>> take a few folks with me while I'm at it.
>
>>
>>
> Calm down, calm down. Here, have another cup of coffee, you'll feel
> better!

Hey, you're right! I do feel much better! Thanks!

On 2/8/2012 12:52 PM, merryb wrote:
> My first career was as a hairdresser, so it has come in handy over
> the years.

My daughter was told by some guys at a beauty salon that she should
become a hairdresser. I think she should become a psych-therapist
because nothing much gets past her.

Her biggest problem is that people have been telling her that she's
pretty all her life. Both my kids have expressed interest in the legal
profession. My son wants to be a lawyer. My daughter wants to marry a
lawyer...

On Thu, 09 Feb 2012 13:31:06 -0500, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 09/02/2012 1:07 PM, Kalmia wrote:
>
>> My frugal nature would balk at a Keurig, not to mention one more thing
>> to buy, break down, maybe start a fire, take up counter or cupboard
>> space.....my usual rant on a lot of new products.
>
>You're right on all counts. I already have a drip coffee machine, an
>espresso maker,a burr coffee grinder, a one cup and a 4 cup French press
>on my counter. I can make a single cup of good coffee with the press or
>the espresso maker. I really don't need to take up more counter space
>with another machine. But damn, my niece's Nespresso made good (but
>expensive) coffee and my experience with Keurig was that it's just not
>worth it.

I am not tooting Keurig's horn, as there are many complaints about
them online, and they are bulky and fugly, that is for sure, but the
key to its success is the coffee itself.

Our unit came with a large assortment of kcups, as well as the
reusable cup. Most of the assortment was really bad, undrinkable, as
far as I was concerned, but there was brand/variety one that was quite
good (as was my own roasted & ground coffee in the reusable).

I have also found this to be so with the Illy pod espresso unit and
the Bosch (Tassimo). It can cost a bit to find the right pod version
that pleases your palate, and I suppose you may not find one at all
among those available, in which case you get to punt.

Boron

On Feb 9, 1:33*pm, John Kuthe > wrote:
> On Feb 9, 11:18*am, Bryan > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Feb 9, 10:09*am, John Kuthe > wrote:
>
> > > On Feb 9, 9:58*am, Bryan > wrote:
>
> > > > On Feb 9, 9:17*am, George > wrote:
>
> > > > > On 2/9/2012 6:06 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
> > > > > > On Thu, 09 Feb 2012 09:18:30 GMT, Alan >
> > > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > >> There's also other considerations. *I live alone. *So making a pot of
> > > > > >> coffee usually means I pour about half the pot down the drain before I go
> > > > > >> to bed. *So using K-cups and making only what I'm going to drink makes
> > > > > >> the cost much more tolerable.
>
> > > > > > My wife makes a pot and has one cup. *She reheated it in the microwave
> > > > > > then next two days. *I don't drink it so I have no idea how good it is
> > > > > > reheated.
>
> > > > > I think leaving the heater on is what destroys the taste. We turn it off
> > > > > immediately after brewed. I don't notice any difference when heated
> > > > > later. If you leave the heater on you might as well dump it if you don't
> > > > > use it in a short time.
>
> > > > Exactly. *If I was more motivated I'd get in there and cut the wire to
> > > > the hot plate.
> > > > People who are way pickier about coffee than me refrigerate and
> > > > microwave. *We just let it sit at room temp and microwave.
>
> > > > --Bryan
>
> > > Turning the pot off after the brew has the same effect. And if you
> > > keep your kitchen cool enough it's almost like refrigerating!
>
> > Turning it off requires being there right when it finishes brewing,
> > when there might be somewhere else I'd prefer to be.
>
> Or shortly thereafter. Why are you brewing a pot if you are not there
> to enjoy the first cup?
>
> John Kuthe...- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Do you two have to turn every thread into a cringe fest for the rest
of us? Someone put it best on another thread: creepy.

On Feb 9, 5:45*am, George L > wrote:
> On Wednesday, February 8, 2012 3:06:44 PM UTC-6, ImStillMags wrote:
> > If you use a single brew coffee machine that uses those little K cups,
> > did you know that you are paying about $50 a pound for the coffee you
> > are using? * *wow......
>
> >http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/08/di...offee-brewers-...
>
> We got one of those single brew units for free, along with a small supply of K cups.
>
> Using the thing was a real PITA. *We both drink 2 to 3 large (not 4 oz)cups of coffee each morning and I never did find any of the coffee make in the K-cup machine to be very good.
>
> We sold the thing for $10 at a garage sale and are back to our 12 cup coffee maker.
>
> George L

I'm pretty much the same way. My coffee cup is not a cup it is a
mug, holds about 16 oz. I had one of those single cup makers and gave
it away because it just didn't work for me.

On 9 Feb 2012 03:25:44 GMT, notbob > arranged
random neurons and said:

>On 2012-02-09, Terry Pulliam Burd > wrote:
>
>> indulgence I choose to spend my money on. I accommodate my lifestyle
>> commensurately to my income and if that means spending $50 a lb. on
>> coffee, who's to care but my heirs <g>
>
>It begs the question, do you do it to "accommodate my lifestyle" or to
>truly enjoy the flavor of good coffee. Spending a lotta money on K
>cups and other whiz-bang gimmicky hardware jes cuz you have the $$$
>may impress others --maybe even yerself-- but if yer still drinking
>crap coffee, it pretty much misses the point.

No, I really like the stuff and it's a good way to accommodate my
preference to have a variety of coffee/tea on offer. My favorite
right now is Van Houtte Cafe's Mocha Java, but I also like Timothy's
Private Blend and in the afternoon I like Twinings English Breakfast
Tea.

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writing and creative research! I've been known to get sitting
ovations for each

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Boron Elgar > wrote:

>On Thu, 9 Feb 2012 03:07:14 +0000 (UTC), (Steve

>>So, what is the advantage of a Keurig machine if you are not
>>interested in the convenience of pre-packaged pods?

>It is the convenience of almost instantaneous 1-cup freshly brewed.
>The emphasis there is on the 1-cup. The reason I bought one is that is
>it far less mess than using a 1 cup Melitta, Chemex, Vietnamese drip,
>Aeropress or any number of other 1 cup widgets I have.

Right. Thanks. As I envision it, this device solves one of the
design defects of most automatic drip coffeemakers -- they brew
too slowly, taking 5 or 6 minutes, allowing off-flavors to develop
in the coffee.

I do think Melitta and other manual cone methods can make a
perfect cup (or two cups) of coffee, but one must manually pour
water into them almost continuously for two to three minutes. (If
you pour the water all at once, or even in a couple of pours,
the result is inferior.)

>>It looks like a paper
>>filter method, but does is somehow have some pressure behind it
>>like an espresso machine?

>Nowhere near the pressure of a decent espresso maker, and the grounds
>are not compressed, but similar in intent to the pod types of them. I
>was surprised and how decent a cup of coffee my Keurig made. My sister
>has a Tasso, and though quite elegant in design and much more
>appealing to have on the counter, you cannot get a refillable cup for
>it. That was a key purchase driver for me.

Thanks

Steve

On 2/9/2012 2:34 AM, Boron Elgar wrote:
> On Thu, 9 Feb 2012 03:07:14 +0000 (UTC), (Steve
> Pope) wrote:
>
>> Boron > wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, 8 Feb 2012 13:06:44 -0800 (PST), ImStillMags
>>
>>>> If you use a single brew coffee machine that uses those little K cups,
>>>> did you know that you are paying about $50 a pound for the coffee you
>>>> are using? wow......
>>
>>>> http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/08/di...ostly.html?hpw
>>
>>> Not when you use your own freshly ground coffee in one of these
>>> adaptors. I paid way less for mine. There are a coupler different
>>> kinds out there online.
>>
>> So, what is the advantage of a Keurig machine if you are not
>> interested in the convenience of pre-packaged pods?
>
> It is the convenience of almost instantaneous 1-cup freshly brewed.
> The emphasis there is on the 1-cup. The reason I bought one is that is
> it far less mess than using a 1 cup Melitta, Chemex, Vietnamese drip,
> Aeropress or any number of other 1 cup widgets I have. My collection
> will either wind up on the Antique Roadshow if I live long enough, or
> in a dumpster.

I've used the single cup Vietnamese drip thingies and holy smokes, is it
slow! There has to be a big divide between Americans and a culture that
could come up with such a fiendishly slow brewing device. The VN coffee
that I drink is even slow brewing in my Mickey Mouse drip coffee maker
at work. It's ground so finely that it clogs my paper filters. Of
course, using coffee ground this way in a VN coffee maker pretty much
means mud city on the bottom of your cup. OTOH, Trung Nguyen coffee is
totally the shit - and that's good!

>
> I collect coffee makers. I have dozens or them. The Keurig is a
> kitchen toy that happens to make a good cup of coffee. If it didn't,
> honestly, I'd have taken it to my office and let my co-workers play
> with it. They will drink anything.
>
>> I have never used one or even seen one. It looks like a paper
>> filter method, but does is somehow have some pressure behind it
>> like an espresso machine?
>>
>> Steve
>
> Nowhere near the pressure of a decent espresso maker, and the grounds
> are not compressed, but similar in intent to the pod types of them. I
> was surprised and how decent a cup of coffee my Keurig made. My sister
> has a Tasso, and though quite elegant in design and much more
> appealing to have on the counter, you cannot get a refillable cup for
> it. That was a key purchase driver for me. Although, there are whole
> web sites devoted to re-using the plastic pre-fills, I refrain and go
> watch BBC's Sherlock or play Scrabble, or polish some boots or wash
> the floor or something.
>

The pressurized water through the K-Cup is the reason for the fast
brewing time. It's a little tricky to do since the final part of brewing
is air under pressure which purges the cup of any residual liquid. It's
the reason you don't get a dripping K-Cup when you remove it from the
machine.

I've never seen a pump that's able to handle water and air in sequence
like that so there's something tricky going on. The K-Cups are probably
filled with nitrogen to prevent oxidation which is an advantage of these
single use packaging. Well, that's my assumption anyway - it's a very
logical thing to do.

> Boron

On 2/9/2012 1:12 PM, ImStillMags wrote:
> On Feb 9, 5:45 am, George > wrote:
>> On Wednesday, February 8, 2012 3:06:44 PM UTC-6, ImStillMags wrote:
>>> If you use a single brew coffee machine that uses those little K cups,
>>> did you know that you are paying about $50 a pound for the coffee you
>>> are using? wow......
>>
>>> http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/08/di...offee-brewers-...
>>
>> We got one of those single brew units for free, along with a small supply of K cups.
>>
>> Using the thing was a real PITA. We both drink 2 to 3 large (not 4 oz)cups of coffee each morning and I never did find any of the coffee make in the K-cup machine to be very good.
>>
>> We sold the thing for $10 at a garage sale and are back to our 12 cup coffee maker.
>>
>> George L
>
> I'm pretty much the same way. My coffee cup is not a cup it is a
> mug, holds about 16 oz. I had one of those single cup makers and gave
> it away because it just didn't work for me.

My Kuerig does a coffee mug. It has 3 size cups it will make.

I love mine. I make one cup of coffee every day for myself. Sometimes
I use it to make tea in the evenings.

We used to make coffee in a drip pot and more likely than not we were
throwing it away. Child gave us the machine as a gift and I love it. I
don't really care how much it costs, it's still cheaper than that
over-priced swill they sell at *$ and I enjoy it.

When we are away from home the two things I miss most are my dog and my
Kuerig. If it's an extravagance, I've earned it.

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On 09/02/2012 5:59 PM, Julie Bove wrote:

>>
>> That's way too high a deposit, people will get mugged for their
>> bottles before they even get them home. A 5¢ deposit per bottle
>> works very well in NY, it's rare I see a bottle at the side of the
>> road except for an occasional full beer bottle that was tossed because
>> the man in the big hat was chasing someone in the dark of night.
>
> No need for a bottle deposit here. People willingly recycle.
>
>



We have recycling here. We have to put paper and cardboard in a grey bin
and metal,glass and plastic in a blue bin. Most parks, stores, malls and
take out restaurants have recycling bins. There are still lots of
people who just toss their water bottles and paper coffee cups out the
car window.

"Sqwertz" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 9 Feb 2012 14:59:54 -0800, Julie Bove wrote:
>
>> No need for a bottle deposit here. People willingly recycle.
>
> Just like they willingly compost, right?

Many do. I choose not to. I let my waste company do it for me.

I grew up with a compost pile. My best friend had one at her house too.

On 2/8/2012 4:06 PM, ImStillMags wrote:
> If you use a single brew coffee machine that uses those little K cups,
> did you know that you are paying about $50 a pound for the coffee you
> are using? wow......
>
> http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/08/di...ostly.html?hpw

At that cost for the kcups they should give the machine away for free
with the purchase of x number of kcups. My mom has a refillable cup for
hers but if you can get the machine for free, use up he required number
of kcups, then fill your own, it would make it more attractive to me.

On 09/02/2012 8:29 PM, Cheryl wrote:
>
>
> At that cost for the kcups they should give the machine away for free
> with the purchase of x number of kcups. My mom has a refillable cup for
> hers but if you can get the machine for free, use up he required number
> of kcups, then fill your own, it would make it more attractive to me.
>

Maybe they are like Canon ink jet printers. The price plummeted on those
things, but I am sure they more than made up for it on the ink sales.

On 2/9/2012 12:19 PM, notbob wrote:
> On 2012-02-09, Dave > wrote:
>
>> At least they throw them in the kitchen garbage, unlike the millions of
>> water bottles and togo coffee cups that get tossed on the side of the road.
>
> ....as if it makes a difference to our planet's ecosystems whether
> pollution is spread out or concentrated in one place.
>

Want to hear something scary? I went to a training class today and for
lunch a bunch of us sat and ate and chitty chatted and the conversation
went to living green and for some reason garbage. The food was good, so
it wasn't that. A guy at the table, very smart in all other ways,
didn't know that you don't put CFLs and batteries in your regular trash.
This is information that apparently doesn't get disseminated to a
large percentage of the public and maybe only to mailing lists, or maybe
just the end of news broadcasts as a filler.

On 2012-02-10, dsi1 > wrote:

> My assumption is that like most Asians, Vietnamese will react violently
> to condensed milk and yet you have Vietnamese coffee. Condensed milk is
> pretty tasty stuff and VN coffee is tasty but that stuff really kills my
> guts. It's a mystery how they drink it. I can't.

Are you Asian?

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On 2/9/2012 7:03 PM, Dave Smith wrote:

> We have recycling here. We have to put paper and cardboard in a grey bin
> and metal,glass and plastic in a blue bin. Most parks, stores, malls and
> take out restaurants have recycling bins. There are still lots of
> people who just toss their water bottles and paper coffee cups out the
> car window.

The city I live in recently changed recycling policies and we don't have
to separate recycling. They gave us a big bin that's covered and we can
put anything in it that is recyclable. It no doubt increases employment
to separate it, and at least for me, it's caused me to recycle more now
than before now that I have a larger bin rather than the small one I
used to have. I keep a 5 gal plastic pail in the kitchen that gets
filled daily with things I used to put in the trash. Empty it in the
covered bin outside daily. Can food tins, cardboard things like butter
or cereal boxes that haven't been exposed to food, etc. It's really
reduced what I put in the regular trash.

Either that, or I'm black. :-)

On 9 Feb 2012 17:00:34 GMT in rec.food.cooking, notbob
> wrote,
>On 2012-02-09, David Harmon > wrote:
>
>> and making the world a better place.
>
>Jes HTF! does using a disposable --read garbage!-- PLASTIC CUP with a
>FOIL COVER and a FILTER make the world a better place? Dolt.

You have a reading disability? No, not supporting Starbucks does.

On Thu, 9 Feb 2012 23:17:32 -0600, Sqwertz >
wrote:

>On Thu, 09 Feb 2012 23:54:04 -0500, Cheryl wrote:
>
>> On 2/9/2012 10:40 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
>>
>>> The first big rain we had after a very dry summer washed all the trash
>>> out of the creek beds and into the Lower Colorado River here. it
>>> looked kinda like this:
>>>
>>> http://gangajal.org.in/blog/wp-conte...9/01/river.jpg
>>>
>>> Just with a bigger proportion of clothes, sport drink and water
>>> bottles.
>>
>> That saddens me.
>
>Any country that allows our oceans to be polluted like that needs a
>good old-fashioned bombing.

The US is not blameless.

Lou

On Feb 8, 4:12*pm, John Kuthe > wrote:
> On Feb 8, 3:06*pm, ImStillMags > wrote:
>
> > If you use a single brew coffee machine that uses those little K cups,
> > did you know that you are paying about $50 a pound for the coffee you
> > are using? * *wow......
>
> >http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/08/di...offee-brewers-...
>
> I always suspected as much. Makes me feel a little bit better at
> paying $11/lb for my freshly roasted Sumatran at Starr's.
>
> John Kuthe...

Did you ever figure how many cups you get out of a pound of coffee?

Do you buy the whole bean or ground?

On Feb 9, 11:52*pm, Cheryl > wrote:
> On 2/9/2012 7:03 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>
> > We have recycling here. We have to put paper and cardboard in a grey bin
> > and metal,glass and plastic in a blue bin. Most parks, stores, malls and
> > take out restaurants have recycling bins. *There are still lots of
> > people who just toss their water bottles and paper coffee cups out the
> > car window.
>
> The city I live in recently changed recycling policies and we don't have
> to separate recycling. *They gave us a big bin that's covered and we can
> put anything in it that is recyclable. *It no doubt increases employment
> to separate it, and at least for me, it's caused me to recycle more now
> than before now that I have a larger bin rather than the small one I
> used to have. * I keep a 5 gal plastic pail in the kitchen that gets
> filled daily with things I used to put in the trash. *Empty it in the
> covered bin outside daily. Can food tins, cardboard things like butter
> or cereal boxes that haven't been exposed to food, etc. *It's really
> reduced what I put in the regular trash.

We have single stream recycling too, but some lazy bums don't
participate. I guess when your indiv. garbage gets weighed and
you're billed accordingly, the morons might comply with the recyck
efforts.