sf wrote:
> On Thu, 16 Feb 2012 20:05:44 -0500, "Jean B." > wrote:
>
>> Yes, some people do prefer, or need to consume, less salt. I
>> don't know that the answer is decreasing the salt product in
>> everything. I prefer to see low-salt and normal versions of things.
>
> I think low salt is relative and doesn't conform to any standards. I
> can remember buying one package each of low salt and regular bacon and
> the taste testers (a panel of two) concluded that the "low salt"
> version tasted saltier than the regular one did.
>
I am sure there are vagaries. I am reminded that I got a pound of
very expensive bacon--and it turned out to be either unsalted or
nearly so. It was dreadful. The package said nothing about that,
and the expectation is that bacon will be salty.

--
Jean B.

sf wrote:
> On Thu, 16 Feb 2012 20:06:38 -0500, "Jean B." > wrote:
>
>> Nancy Young wrote:
>>> On 2/14/2012 11:21 PM, Jean B. wrote:
>>>
>>>> Also, I take a BP med. I also test. Early in the game, I established
>>>> that salt did not affect my BP. I wonder how many people it DOES affect?
>>>> I wonder how many people are told to lower the sodium in their diets for
>>>> some generic reason, without being tested?
>>> My MIL had very low blood pressure, actually prone to fainting
>>> now and again. Naturally they told her to reduce sodium in her
>>> diet.
>>>
>>> I guess they just hate sodium.
>>>
>>> nancy
>> That is VERY odd. A newsgroup friend was fainting, and that was
>> the finding in her case too. This was understandable, because she
>> doesn't LIKE salt.
>
> And my neighbor had the opposite diagnosis after passing out. She
> needed *more* salt! Her body wasn't metabolizing the salt in her diet
> properly. She was on an IV for two weeks and sodium tablets after
> that. Her body is functioning properly now so she doesn't have to
> take supplements anymore.
>
No, that's the same diagnosis.

--
Jean B.

On Fri, 17 Feb 2012 23:50:14 -0500, "Jean B." > wrote:

> sf wrote:
> > On Thu, 16 Feb 2012 20:06:38 -0500, "Jean B." > wrote:
> >
> >> Nancy Young wrote:
> >>> On 2/14/2012 11:21 PM, Jean B. wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Also, I take a BP med. I also test. Early in the game, I established
> >>>> that salt did not affect my BP. I wonder how many people it DOES affect?
> >>>> I wonder how many people are told to lower the sodium in their diets for
> >>>> some generic reason, without being tested?
> >>> My MIL had very low blood pressure, actually prone to fainting
> >>> now and again. Naturally they told her to reduce sodium in her
> >>> diet.
> >>>
> >>> I guess they just hate sodium.
> >>>
> >>> nancy
> >> That is VERY odd. A newsgroup friend was fainting, and that was
> >> the finding in her case too. This was understandable, because she
> >> doesn't LIKE salt.
> >
> > And my neighbor had the opposite diagnosis after passing out. She
> > needed *more* salt! Her body wasn't metabolizing the salt in her diet
> > properly. She was on an IV for two weeks and sodium tablets after
> > that. Her body is functioning properly now so she doesn't have to
> > take supplements anymore.
> >
> No, that's the same diagnosis.

Sorry, but I don't see how being told to reduce sodium is the same as
needing more.

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Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

I love the meat sausages. You can order them easily.

On 2/15/2012 7:23 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> George wrote:
>> Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>> Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>>> Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>>> Kalmia wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Boar's Head, if I cave for cold cuts.
>>>>>
>>>>> Stores around here have signs outside bragging that they use Boar's
>>>>> Head. I like that so I can go someplace else.
>>>>
>>>> That's just bigoted silliness, delis sell several brands. I don't
>>>> like all Boar's Head products but a few are excellent. I buy
>>>> different cold cuts in different brands. I've never seen a deli with
>>>> a Boar's Head sign that sold Boar's Head exclusively... delis
>>>> typically display several brand name signs... I choose delis by their
>>>> cleanliness.
>>>
>>> Well come on over. First we'll go to Woodstock for a BH snack, then
>>> we'll head on down to Dayville for lunch for more BH. Both places are
>>> exclusive. If you have the time, we'll head on over to Johnston RI
>>> for the Boars Head too.
>>>
>>> True, the supermarkets do sell multiple brands, but a few smaller
>>> places brag about their exclusivity.
>>
>> I also know smaller places that have signage stating something like "we
>> exclusively use Boars head fine products".
>
> In your dreams/nightmares... you should be able to easily prove that
> instead of just keyboard kooking. I know you're lying, first because
> if your keyboard is typing you're lying, but secondly no deli could
> stay in business very long selling Boar's Head exclusively, especially
> smaller places, a deli needs to sell product in several price ranges
> to survive. Even butcher shops are going to sell a few brands, not
> all customers will be willing to pay $7/lb for bologna, then it will
> sit there and spoil. George keeps proving how uneducated he is and
> how low an IQ and little common sense he possesses, which is why all
> he is capable of is to hack cruises (so he claims) in his feeble
> attempt to mitigate his debt... no different from selling vacuum
> cleaners door to door... George is essentially a telemarketer who is
> selling a concept, not even an actual product, he has no formal
> training in anything... had he half a brain he'd not boast about
> pushing cruises, that impresses no one anymore than someone selling
> crafts at a flea market (at least a crafter has talent). When people
> say they don't like Boar's Head it's because they can't afford it,
> simple as that... when folks knock a higher priced product that most
> think is superior it's sour grapes. I don't always buy Boar's Head
> either, but not because it's not worth it, but because sometimes the
> deli has a decent brand on sale for half as much, and with some cold
> cuts I like other brands better, for some cold cuts I much prefer
> Hormel and Russer. Some delis sell a different high end cold cut
> brand, but then Boar's Head won't deliver... the high end provisions
> companys respect each other's territory, you might say like the
> maffia. Obviously on his meager iffy income George can't afford
> Boar's Head. With all his sudden relocating machinations I'd bet my
> bippee George relies on food stamps.


Off the meds again? What are these "cruises" I am pushing and when did I
knock Boars head?

All I mentioned is that as usual you saw something in one place and
extrapolate it to be everywhere and then challenge people who have
actual life experience.

George wrote:

>> Obviously on his meager iffy income George can't afford
>> Boar's Head.

> when did I knock Boars head?

Would it be opening old wounds to slam Boar's Head?

They managed to shove D&W out of all 3 supermarket chains where I live
(Virginia). Some of their stuff tastes, well, weird. Who the *%&! puts
sweetener in Havarti? They do offer real Emmentaler though. Some of
their hams have funny tastes. One actually tastes faintly of fish. I
say, send Boar's Head back to the shipyard.

sf wrote:
> On Fri, 17 Feb 2012 23:50:14 -0500, "Jean B." > wrote:
>
>> sf wrote:
>>> On Thu, 16 Feb 2012 20:06:38 -0500, "Jean B." > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Nancy Young wrote:
>>>>> On 2/14/2012 11:21 PM, Jean B. wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Also, I take a BP med. I also test. Early in the game, I established
>>>>>> that salt did not affect my BP. I wonder how many people it DOES affect?
>>>>>> I wonder how many people are told to lower the sodium in their diets for
>>>>>> some generic reason, without being tested?
>>>>> My MIL had very low blood pressure, actually prone to fainting
>>>>> now and again. Naturally they told her to reduce sodium in her
>>>>> diet.
>>>>>
>>>>> I guess they just hate sodium.
>>>>>
>>>>> nancy
>>>> That is VERY odd. A newsgroup friend was fainting, and that was
>>>> the finding in her case too. This was understandable, because she
>>>> doesn't LIKE salt.
>>> And my neighbor had the opposite diagnosis after passing out. She
>>> needed *more* salt! Her body wasn't metabolizing the salt in her diet
>>> properly. She was on an IV for two weeks and sodium tablets after
>>> that. Her body is functioning properly now so she doesn't have to
>>> take supplements anymore.
>>>
>> No, that's the same diagnosis.
>
> Sorry, but I don't see how being told to reduce sodium is the same as
> needing more.
>
I didn't say that.

--
Jean B.

On Sat, 18 Feb 2012 20:43:46 -0500, "Jean B." > wrote:

> sf wrote:
> > On Fri, 17 Feb 2012 23:50:14 -0500, "Jean B." > wrote:
> >
> >> sf wrote:
> >>> On Thu, 16 Feb 2012 20:06:38 -0500, "Jean B." > wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Nancy Young wrote:
> >>>>> On 2/14/2012 11:21 PM, Jean B. wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Also, I take a BP med. I also test. Early in the game, I established
> >>>>>> that salt did not affect my BP. I wonder how many people it DOES affect?
> >>>>>> I wonder how many people are told to lower the sodium in their diets for
> >>>>>> some generic reason, without being tested?
> >>>>> My MIL had very low blood pressure, actually prone to fainting
> >>>>> now and again. Naturally they told her to reduce sodium in her
> >>>>> diet.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I guess they just hate sodium.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> nancy
> >>>> That is VERY odd. A newsgroup friend was fainting, and that was
> >>>> the finding in her case too. This was understandable, because she
> >>>> doesn't LIKE salt.
> >>> And my neighbor had the opposite diagnosis after passing out. She
> >>> needed *more* salt! Her body wasn't metabolizing the salt in her diet
> >>> properly. She was on an IV for two weeks and sodium tablets after
> >>> that. Her body is functioning properly now so she doesn't have to
> >>> take supplements anymore.
> >>>
> >> No, that's the same diagnosis.
> >
> > Sorry, but I don't see how being told to reduce sodium is the same as
> > needing more.
> >
> I didn't say that.

You said it was the same diagnosis, it's not.

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Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

sf wrote:
> On Sat, 18 Feb 2012 20:43:46 -0500, "Jean B." > wrote:
>
>> sf wrote:
>>> On Fri, 17 Feb 2012 23:50:14 -0500, "Jean B." > wrote:
>>>
>>>> sf wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, 16 Feb 2012 20:06:38 -0500, "Jean B." > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Nancy Young wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2/14/2012 11:21 PM, Jean B. wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Also, I take a BP med. I also test. Early in the game, I established
>>>>>>>> that salt did not affect my BP. I wonder how many people it DOES affect?
>>>>>>>> I wonder how many people are told to lower the sodium in their diets for
>>>>>>>> some generic reason, without being tested?
>>>>>>> My MIL had very low blood pressure, actually prone to fainting
>>>>>>> now and again. Naturally they told her to reduce sodium in her
>>>>>>> diet.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I guess they just hate sodium.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> nancy
>>>>>> That is VERY odd. A newsgroup friend was fainting, and that was
>>>>>> the finding in her case too. This was understandable, because she
>>>>>> doesn't LIKE salt.
>>>>> And my neighbor had the opposite diagnosis after passing out. She
>>>>> needed *more* salt! Her body wasn't metabolizing the salt in her diet
>>>>> properly. She was on an IV for two weeks and sodium tablets after
>>>>> that. Her body is functioning properly now so she doesn't have to
>>>>> take supplements anymore.
>>>>>
>>>> No, that's the same diagnosis.
>>> Sorry, but I don't see how being told to reduce sodium is the same as
>>> needing more.
>>>
>> I didn't say that.
>
> You said it was the same diagnosis, it's not.
>
She was diagnosed with low BP. She needed to consume more salt.
She doesn't like salt.

--
Jean B.

Sqwertz wrote:

> I've had some really bad ketchups. I won't patronize a burger/fry
> restaurant that doesn't use Heinz or something very close to it. That
> Sysco crap sucks royally. Hopefully they've upgraded that by now.

I almost always use Heinz (organic, or now Simply--the one that
contains sugar), but recently I tasted a fantastic ketchup made by
S & F.
>
>> Worcestershire Sauce = Only Lea and Perrins makes real worcestershire IMO.
>
> Yep. And they've recently upgraded back to real sugar instead of
> HFCS. I still want to taste the stuff sold in England.
>
I have some of that. Still haven't figured out a good test for
it. I am afraid if I use it in something I have made and liked,
it will be strangely different. I need to find a good candidate.
--
Jean B.

"Jean B." > wrote in message
...
> Sqwertz wrote:
>
>> I've had some really bad ketchups. I won't patronize a burger/fry
>> restaurant that doesn't use Heinz or something very close to it. That
>> Sysco crap sucks royally. Hopefully they've upgraded that by now.
>
> I almost always use Heinz (organic, or now Simply--the one that contains
> sugar), but recently I tasted a fantastic ketchup made by S & F.
>>
>>> Worcestershire Sauce = Only Lea and Perrins makes real worcestershire
>>> IMO.
>>
>> Yep. And they've recently upgraded back to real sugar instead of
>> HFCS. I still want to taste the stuff sold in England.
>>
> I have some of that. Still haven't figured out a good test for it. I am
> afraid if I use it in something I have made and liked, it will be
> strangely different. I need to find a good candidate.

I had the same problem. I found Tabasco brand Worcestershire,
really good. No hfcs, vat brewed, etc, etc. Did wonderful things
for burgers, steaks and whatever. But I had no way to test it,
even though I had L&P sitting right next to it. Not to worry as
I believe the Tabasco brand is out of production. The brew is
so strong and heavy that comparison was difficult. Have you any
ideas that I have missed or not thought of?

pavane

pavane wrote:

>>>> Worcestershire Sauce = Only Lea and Perrins makes real worcestershire
>>>> IMO.
>>>
>>> Yep. And they've recently upgraded back to real sugar instead of
>>> HFCS. I still want to taste the stuff sold in England.
>>>
>> I have some of that. Still haven't figured out a good test for it. I am
>> afraid if I use it in something I have made and liked, it will be
>> strangely different. I need to find a good candidate.
>
>I had the same problem. I found Tabasco brand Worcestershire,
>really good. No hfcs, vat brewed, etc, etc. Did wonderful things
>for burgers, steaks and whatever. But I had no way to test it,
>even though I had L&P sitting right next to it. Not to worry as
>I believe the Tabasco brand is out of production. The brew is
>so strong and heavy that comparison was difficult. Have you any
>ideas that I have missed or not thought of?

Here's one (I haven't tried it, but maybe when my current bottle is
done):

http://www.cdkitchen.com/recipes/rec...uce22719.shtml

Only a couple ingredients most cooks don't already have.

"George M. Middius" > wrote in message
...
> pavane wrote:
>
>>>>> Worcestershire Sauce = Only Lea and Perrins makes real worcestershire
>>>>> IMO.
>>>>
>>>> Yep. And they've recently upgraded back to real sugar instead of
>>>> HFCS. I still want to taste the stuff sold in England.
>>>>
>>> I have some of that. Still haven't figured out a good test for it. I
>>> am
>>> afraid if I use it in something I have made and liked, it will be
>>> strangely different. I need to find a good candidate.
>>
>>I had the same problem. I found Tabasco brand Worcestershire,
>>really good. No hfcs, vat brewed, etc, etc. Did wonderful things
>>for burgers, steaks and whatever. But I had no way to test it,
>>even though I had L&P sitting right next to it. Not to worry as
>>I believe the Tabasco brand is out of production. The brew is
>>so strong and heavy that comparison was difficult. Have you any
>>ideas that I have missed or not thought of?
>
> Here's one (I haven't tried it, but maybe when my current bottle is
> done):
>
> http://www.cdkitchen.com/recipes/rec...uce22719.shtml
>
> Only a couple ingredients most cooks don't already have.

I'd never thought of making Worcestershire, it looks like a fun
project. Thanks for posting the link.

pavane

pavane wrote:

>>>Have you any ideas that I have missed or not thought of?
>>
>> Here's one (I haven't tried it, but maybe when my current bottle is
>> done):
>>
>> http://www.cdkitchen.com/recipes/rec...uce22719.shtml
>>
>> Only a couple ingredients most cooks don't already have.
>
>I'd never thought of making Worcestershire, it looks like a fun
>project. Thanks for posting the link.

Let us know your results and if you learn anything valuable.