I was at the grocery store yesterday, and took a peek at the seafood
counter. I was surprised (not in a good way) to see farm raised trout.
They were almost white- kinda albino looking. They looked extremely
unappetizing! I do not buy farmed fish, but have never seen these
before. I guess they were white because of what they are fed?

On Sat, 18 Feb 2012 11:26:46 -0800 (PST), merryb >
wrote:

>I was at the grocery store yesterday, and took a peek at the seafood
>counter. I was surprised (not in a good way) to see farm raised trout.
>They were almost white- kinda albino looking. They looked extremely
>unappetizing! I do not buy farmed fish, but have never seen these
>before. I guess they were white because of what they are fed?

trout come in many different skin colors and meat colors.
http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=...RM=I GRE#x0y0

I can't tell by what you have said what the problem was. I
have seen trout at the market that has been poorly handled, looked
mushy and were virtually eyeless. Not something that you would want
to buy. 75% of all trout sold in the nation come from farms in Idaho
that are located adjacent to the Snake River. These are generally
Rainbow Trout with white meat. What kind of trout are you used to
buying or getting?
Janet US

On Feb 18, 1:08*pm, Janet Bostwick > wrote:
> On Sat, 18 Feb 2012 11:26:46 -0800 (PST), merryb >
> wrote:
>
> >I was at the grocery store yesterday, and took a peek at the seafood
> >counter. I was surprised (not in a good way) to see farm raised trout.
> >They were almost white- kinda albino looking. They looked extremely
> >unappetizing! I do not buy farmed fish, but have never seen these
> >before. I guess they were white because of what they are fed?
>
> trout come in many different skin colors and meat colors.http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=...=trout+picture...
>
> I can't tell by what you have said what the problem was. *I
> have seen trout at the market that has been poorly handled, looked
> mushy and were virtually eyeless. *Not something that you would want
> to buy. *75% of all trout sold in the nation come from farms in Idaho
> that are located adjacent to the Snake River. *These are generally
> Rainbow Trout with white meat. *What kind of trout are you used to
> buying or getting?
> Janet US

I've seen lots of different trout, and they were all brownish. Nothing
like these- I'd eat fish sticks before I ate those!!

On Sat, 18 Feb 2012 13:44:59 -0800 (PST), merryb >
wrote:

>
> Trout is a fish I have never bought- usually it's halibut or salmon.

If you ever see steelhead trout (red fleshed rainbow trout that have
been at sea) - buy some, it's delicious!

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

On 2/18/2012 4:08 PM, Janet Bostwick wrote:
> On Sat, 18 Feb 2012 11:26:46 -0800 (PST), >
> wrote:
>
>> I was at the grocery store yesterday, and took a peek at the seafood
>> counter. I was surprised (not in a good way) to see farm raised trout.
>> They were almost white- kinda albino looking. They looked extremely
>> unappetizing! I do not buy farmed fish, but have never seen these
>> before. I guess they were white because of what they are fed?
>
> trout come in many different skin colors and meat colors.
> http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=...RM=I GRE#x0y0
>
> I can't tell by what you have said what the problem was. I
> have seen trout at the market that has been poorly handled, looked
> mushy and were virtually eyeless. Not something that you would want
> to buy. 75% of all trout sold in the nation come from farms in Idaho
> that are located adjacent to the Snake River. These are generally
> Rainbow Trout with white meat. What kind of trout are you used to
> buying or getting?
> Janet US

Avoid "heads removed for your convenience" or so you can't see the eyes,
which should bulge out a little and be shiny.

--
Jim Silverton

Extraneous "not" in Reply To.

On Sat, 18 Feb 2012 11:26:46 -0800 (PST), merryb >
wrote:

>I was at the grocery store yesterday, and took a peek at the seafood
>counter. I was surprised (not in a good way) to see farm raised trout.
>They were almost white- kinda albino looking. They looked extremely
>unappetizing! I do not buy farmed fish, but have never seen these
>before. I guess they were white because of what they are fed?

It could be worse, they could have fed the fish dyes to make the
colour 'right', as often done with farm raised salmon.

On 18/02/2012 2:26 PM, merryb wrote:
> I was at the grocery store yesterday, and took a peek at the seafood
> counter. I was surprised (not in a good way) to see farm raised trout.
> They were almost white- kinda albino looking. They looked extremely
> unappetizing! I do not buy farmed fish, but have never seen these
> before. I guess they were white because of what they are fed?

I would be more surprised to see wild trout that farm raised. I buy it
once in a while and it is usually pretty good. There used to be a trout
farm about two miles north of my house. I once went there for trout.
The owner needed, dispatched and cleaned them and they were stuffed and
in the oven within about two hours.

FWIW.... I think trout tastes much better when coming from cold water
than warm. Warm water trout tends to have a muddy taste.

On 18/02/2012 5:32 PM, sf wrote:
> On Sat, 18 Feb 2012 13:44:59 -0800 (PST), >
> wrote:
>
>>
>> Trout is a fish I have never bought- usually it's halibut or salmon.
>
> If you ever see steelhead trout (red fleshed rainbow trout that have
> been at sea) - buy some, it's delicious!
>

It sure is.

On 18/02/2012 5:44 PM, James Silverton wrote:
>
>
> Avoid "heads removed for your convenience" or so you can't see the eyes,
> which should bulge out a little and be shiny.
>


Some people don't want their food looking at them. Back in the late 60s
my mother used to get frozen Idaho rainbow trout and cook them up for
us. She had to remove the head from my father's trout because he was a
little squeamish about things like that.... and pink meat. My brothers
and I were always careful to slip the meat off the bones and leave the
heads intact and all pointing toward my father. I thought that our
efforts to get under his skin were all in vain because he never said
anything, but years later he told my wife about us doing it, and how he
could not react and let us win.

On 2/18/2012 6:17 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 18/02/2012 5:44 PM, James Silverton wrote:
>>
>>
>> Avoid "heads removed for your convenience" or so you can't see the eyes,
>> which should bulge out a little and be shiny.
>>
>
>
> Some people don't want their food looking at them. Back in the late 60s
> my mother used to get frozen Idaho rainbow trout and cook them up for
> us. She had to remove the head from my father's trout because he was a
> little squeamish about things like that.... and pink meat. My brothers
> and I were always careful to slip the meat off the bones and leave the
> heads intact and all pointing toward my father. I thought that our
> efforts to get under his skin were all in vain because he never said
> anything, but years later he told my wife about us doing it, and how he
> could not react and let us win.
>
You can always remove the heads and tails before serving. Also you can
remove the meat and serve just that after broiling.

--
Jim Silverton

Extraneous "not" in Reply To.

Dave Smith wrote:

>Some people don't want their food looking at them. Back in the late 60s
>my mother used to get frozen Idaho rainbow trout and cook them up for
>us. She had to remove the head from my father's trout because he was a
>little squeamish about things like that.... and pink meat. My brothers
>and I were always careful to slip the meat off the bones and leave the
>heads intact and all pointing toward my father. I thought that our
>efforts to get under his skin were all in vain because he never said
>anything, but years later he told my wife about us doing it, and how he
>could not react and let us win.

awwww... That's a sweet, touching story. Thanks for sharing.

On Sat, 18 Feb 2012 19:35:36 -0500, James Silverton
> wrote:
> >
> You can always remove the heads and tails before serving. Also you can
> remove the meat and serve just that after broiling.

I take them off before I cook the fish.

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

On Feb 18, 2:32*pm, sf > wrote:
> On Sat, 18 Feb 2012 13:44:59 -0800 (PST), merryb >
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Trout is a fish I have never bought- usually it's halibut or salmon.
>
> If you ever see steelhead trout (red fleshed rainbow trout that have
> been at sea) - buy some, it's delicious!
>

Steelhead is my favorite fish. I've had other white trout as well that
I really liked. It's too bad fish prices are so much higher these
days. I wouldn't mind eating it a couple times a week.

On Sun, 19 Feb 2012 00:16:22 -0800 (PST), "
> wrote:

>
> Steelhead is my favorite fish. I've had other white trout as well that
> I really liked. It's too bad fish prices are so much higher these
> days. I wouldn't mind eating it a couple times a week.

Nothing is cheap anymore.

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

On Sat, 18 Feb 2012 18:13:39 -0500, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 18/02/2012 5:32 PM, sf wrote:
>> On Sat, 18 Feb 2012 13:44:59 -0800 (PST), >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Trout is a fish I have never bought- usually it's halibut or salmon.
>>
>> If you ever see steelhead trout (red fleshed rainbow trout that have
>> been at sea) - buy some, it's delicious!
>>
>
>It sure is.

I agree. Here Costco sells steelhead "salmon." This came up here
about a year ago and I did some googling. The sites all have
something a little different about it. This site words it in a simple
way if it's accurate.

From he

http://www.gosalmonfishing.com/salmo...-steelhead.php

Steelhead salmon (Oncorhynchus mykiss) are commonly known as trout,
but in fact they are a species of salmon native to the Pacific region.
Land locked steelheads are also known as rainbow trout; in fact that
is their common name. The term steelhead is used to differentiate
between those rainbows that stay in fresh water permanently and those
that go out to the ocean. Both rainbow and steelhead trout will return
to the place where they hatched in order to spawn; therefore,
steelheads are an anadromous species. Unlike their Pacific salmon
cousins, steelheads and rainbows can spawn numerous times before
dying.

On Feb 18, 2:32*pm, sf > wrote:
> On Sat, 18 Feb 2012 13:44:59 -0800 (PST), merryb >
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Trout is a fish I have never bought- usually it's halibut or salmon.
>
> If you ever see steelhead trout (red fleshed rainbow trout that have
> been at sea) - buy some, it's delicious!
>
> --
> Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

I've had it- my sister's ex used to fish all the time, and would give
us some. It is good!

On Feb 18, 2:47*pm, Jeßus > wrote:
> On Sat, 18 Feb 2012 11:26:46 -0800 (PST), merryb >
> wrote:
>
> >I was at the grocery store yesterday, and took a peek at the seafood
> >counter. I was surprised (not in a good way) to see farm raised trout.
> >They were almost white- kinda albino looking. They looked extremely
> >unappetizing! I do not buy farmed fish, but have never seen these
> >before. I guess they were white because of what they are fed?
>
> It could be worse, they could have fed the fish dyes to make the
> colour 'right', as often done with farm raised salmon.

I'm thinking they were fed bleach by the way they looked!

On Feb 18, 6:47*pm, gregz > wrote:
> sf > wrote:
> > On Sat, 18 Feb 2012 13:44:59 -0800 (PST), merryb >
> > wrote:
>
> >> Trout is a fish I have never bought- usually it's halibut or salmon.
>
> > If you ever see steelhead trout (red fleshed rainbow trout that have
> > been at sea) - buy some, it's delicious!
>
> Steelhead you catch in lake Erie have never been to sea.
>
> If you ever get a steelhead on you fishing line, it's one of the most
> thrilling things you will ever do.
>
> Greg

My sister's ex loved to fish for them- he'd rather fish than work.
That's why he's her ex!

On Feb 19, 9:19*am, Lou Decruss > wrote:
> On Sat, 18 Feb 2012 18:13:39 -0500, Dave Smith
>
> > wrote:
> >On 18/02/2012 5:32 PM, sf wrote:
> >> On Sat, 18 Feb 2012 13:44:59 -0800 (PST), >
> >> wrote:
>
> >>> Trout is a fish I have never bought- usually it's halibut or salmon.
>
> >> If you ever see steelhead trout (red fleshed rainbow trout that have
> >> been at sea) - buy some, it's delicious!
>
> >It sure is.
>
> I agree. *Here Costco sells *steelhead "salmon." *This came up here
> about a year ago and I did some googling. *The sites all have
> something a little different about it. *This site words it in a simple
> way if it's accurate.
>
> From he
>
> http://www.gosalmonfishing.com/salmo...-steelhead.php
>
> Steelhead salmon (Oncorhynchus mykiss) are commonly known as trout,
> but in fact they are a species of salmon native to the Pacific region.
> Land locked steelheads are also known as rainbow trout; in fact that
> is their common name. The term steelhead is used to differentiate
> between those rainbows that stay in fresh water permanently and those
> that go out to the ocean. Both rainbow and steelhead trout will return
> to the place where they hatched in order to spawn; therefore,
> steelheads are an anadromous species. Unlike their Pacific salmon
> cousins, steelheads and rainbows can spawn numerous times before
> dying.

Thanks- that is kinda confusing as I have always heard them referred
to as a salmon!

sf > wrote:

>If you ever see steelhead trout (red fleshed rainbow trout that have
>been at sea) - buy some, it's delicious!

I have noticed fish counters now labeling this as steelhead salmon.

Almost all commercially sold trout in the U.S. is "farm raised".
There are of course wild trout still in some streams. The very
uncommon California Golden Trout is said to be the best eatin' of them
all. It is one of several species evolved in isolated watercourses
as the sea that once filled the Great Basin area receded. Basically
there are numerous drainages that will never be connected to anything
esle (in our lifetimes), in a large circular zone roughly surrounding
Utah. Thus you have unique trout (and other) species in northern
Arizona, southern Idaho, eastern Sierra.


Steve

On Sun, 19 Feb 2012 11:45:00 -0800 (PST), merryb >
wrote:

>On Feb 18, 2:47*pm, Jeßus > wrote:
>> On Sat, 18 Feb 2012 11:26:46 -0800 (PST), merryb >
>> wrote:
>>
>> >I was at the grocery store yesterday, and took a peek at the seafood
>> >counter. I was surprised (not in a good way) to see farm raised trout.
>> >They were almost white- kinda albino looking. They looked extremely
>> >unappetizing! I do not buy farmed fish, but have never seen these
>> >before. I guess they were white because of what they are fed?
>>
>> It could be worse, they could have fed the fish dyes to make the
>> colour 'right', as often done with farm raised salmon.
>
>I'm thinking they were fed bleach by the way they looked!

Let's hope not!

On Feb 19, 3:41*pm, Jeßus > wrote:
> On Sun, 19 Feb 2012 11:45:00 -0800 (PST), merryb >
> wrote:
>
> >On Feb 18, 2:47*pm, Jeßus > wrote:
> >> On Sat, 18 Feb 2012 11:26:46 -0800 (PST), merryb >
> >> wrote:
>
> >> >I was at the grocery store yesterday, and took a peek at the seafood
> >> >counter. I was surprised (not in a good way) to see farm raised trout..
> >> >They were almost white- kinda albino looking. They looked extremely
> >> >unappetizing! I do not buy farmed fish, but have never seen these
> >> >before. I guess they were white because of what they are fed?
>
> >> It could be worse, they could have fed the fish dyes to make the
> >> colour 'right', as often done with farm raised salmon.
>
> >I'm thinking they were fed bleach by the way they looked!
>
> Let's hope not!

No kidding! They almost looked like some Koi I have seen.

On Sun, 19 Feb 2012 16:41:33 -0800 (PST), merryb >
wrote:

>On Feb 19, 3:41*pm, Jeßus > wrote:
>> On Sun, 19 Feb 2012 11:45:00 -0800 (PST), merryb >
>> wrote:
>>
>> >On Feb 18, 2:47*pm, Jeßus > wrote:
>> >> On Sat, 18 Feb 2012 11:26:46 -0800 (PST), merryb >
>> >> wrote:
>>
>> >> >I was at the grocery store yesterday, and took a peek at the seafood
>> >> >counter. I was surprised (not in a good way) to see farm raised trout.
>> >> >They were almost white- kinda albino looking. They looked extremely
>> >> >unappetizing! I do not buy farmed fish, but have never seen these
>> >> >before. I guess they were white because of what they are fed?
>>
>> >> It could be worse, they could have fed the fish dyes to make the
>> >> colour 'right', as often done with farm raised salmon.
>>
>> >I'm thinking they were fed bleach by the way they looked!
>>
>> Let's hope not!
>
>No kidding! They almost looked like some Koi I have seen.

Koi? I'll have one of them on my arm in a few weeks time... well, a
drawing of one, at least.

On Feb 19, 5:51*pm, Jeßus > wrote:
> On Sun, 19 Feb 2012 16:41:33 -0800 (PST), merryb >
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >On Feb 19, 3:41*pm, Jeßus > wrote:
> >> On Sun, 19 Feb 2012 11:45:00 -0800 (PST), merryb >
> >> wrote:
>
> >> >On Feb 18, 2:47*pm, Jeßus > wrote:
> >> >> On Sat, 18 Feb 2012 11:26:46 -0800 (PST), merryb >
> >> >> wrote:
>
> >> >> >I was at the grocery store yesterday, and took a peek at the seafood
> >> >> >counter. I was surprised (not in a good way) to see farm raised trout.
> >> >> >They were almost white- kinda albino looking. They looked extremely
> >> >> >unappetizing! I do not buy farmed fish, but have never seen these
> >> >> >before. I guess they were white because of what they are fed?
>
> >> >> It could be worse, they could have fed the fish dyes to make the
> >> >> colour 'right', as often done with farm raised salmon.
>
> >> >I'm thinking they were fed bleach by the way they looked!
>
> >> Let's hope not!
>
> >No kidding! They almost looked like some Koi I have seen.
>
> Koi? I'll have one of them on my arm in a few weeks time... well, a
> drawing of one, at least.

Nice- I have a friend that has the same; kinda a yin/yan thing...

On Feb 18, 1:26*pm, merryb > wrote:
> I was at the grocery store yesterday, and took a peek at the seafood
> counter. I was surprised (not in a good way) to see farm raised trout.
> They were almost white- kinda albino looking. They looked extremely
> unappetizing! I do not buy farmed fish, but have never seen these
> before. I guess they were white because of what they are fed?

We have trout hatcheries here. I always assumed they were raised on
Purina Trout Chow.

--Bryan

On Feb 19, 9:10*pm, Bryan > wrote:
> On Feb 18, 1:26*pm, merryb > wrote:
>
> > I was at the grocery store yesterday, and took a peek at the seafood
> > counter. I was surprised (not in a good way) to see farm raised trout.
> > They were almost white- kinda albino looking. They looked extremely
> > unappetizing! I do not buy farmed fish, but have never seen these
> > before. I guess they were white because of what they are fed?
>
> We have trout hatcheries here. *I always assumed they were raised on
> Purina Trout Chow.
>
> --Bryan

Best trout I ever had was freshly caught from the Spring River by a
boating friend of mine. He gave me a trout he'd caught after I let him
use my big cooler to keep his mess-o-trout cool that he'd caught on a
Spring River trip I took a few years ago. Got home and cooked that
baby right away in some EVOO and butter.

YUM!!!!

I think it was a rainbow trout. They have a hatchery just out of
Mammoth Spring in AR.

John Kuthe...

On Feb 19, 9:18*am, sf > wrote:
> On Sun, 19 Feb 2012 00:16:22 -0800 (PST), "
>
> > wrote:
>
> > Steelhead is my favorite fish. I've had other white trout as well that
> > I really liked. It's too bad fish prices are so much higher these
> > days. I wouldn't mind *eating it a couple times a week.
>
> Nothing is cheap anymore.
>

Very true. I used to be able to get it for about $5 a pound. Now it is
usually $8 or more per pound. I usually check the marked down seafood
to see if there is anything I like. Sometimes, there will be a sale on
whole steelhead, and they will fillet it at no charge if you buy the
whole fish. I can freeze some of it.

The asian stores always have better prices, but it makes me wonder
why. Is their fish from bad sources? How do they get it so cheap?

On 19/02/2012 8:51 PM, Jeßus wrote:

>>
>> No kidding! They almost looked like some Koi I have seen.
>
> Koi? I'll have one of them on my arm in a few weeks time... well, a
> drawing of one, at least.


I had some Koi in my back yard "water feature". I had a goldfish pond
that I used to put goldfish in. One year I splurged and put in some Koi.
At the time, those guys sold for $6-15 apiece. They started
disappearing. My wife saw the last one go..... a Blue Heron. Those
*******s never bothered with the gold fish that used to cots $1 per dozen.

On Feb 20, 9:17*am, Dave Smith > wrote:
> On 19/02/2012 8:51 PM, Je us wrote:
>
>
>
> >> No kidding! They almost looked like some Koi I have seen.
>
> > Koi? I'll have one of them on my arm in a few weeks time... well, a
> > drawing of one, at least.
>
> * I had some Koi in my *back yard "water feature". I had a goldfish pond
> that I used to put goldfish in. One year I splurged and put in some Koi.
> * *At the time, those guys sold for $6-15 apiece. *They started
> disappearing. My wife saw the last one go..... a Blue Heron. *Those
> *******s never bothered with the gold fish that used to cots $1 per dozen..

That Blue Heron has expensive tastes in seafood! ;-)

John Kuthe...

Dave Smith wrote:

> I had some Koi in my back yard "water feature". I had a goldfish pond
> that I used to put goldfish in. One year I splurged and put in some Koi.
> At the time, those guys sold for $6-15 apiece. They started
> disappearing. My wife saw the last one go..... a Blue Heron. Those
> *******s never bothered with the gold fish that used to cots $1 per dozen.

Evidently, Blue Heron's are gourmands. heheheh

Gary

On 2/20/2012 10:19 AM, John Kuthe wrote:
> On Feb 20, 9:17 am, Dave > wrote:
>> On 19/02/2012 8:51 PM, Je us wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>> No kidding! They almost looked like some Koi I have seen.
>>
>>> Koi? I'll have one of them on my arm in a few weeks time... well, a
>>> drawing of one, at least.
>>
>> I had some Koi in my back yard "water feature". I had a goldfish pond
>> that I used to put goldfish in. One year I splurged and put in some Koi.
>> At the time, those guys sold for $6-15 apiece. They started
>> disappearing. My wife saw the last one go..... a Blue Heron. Those
>> *******s never bothered with the gold fish that used to cots $1 per dozen.
>
> That Blue Heron has expensive tastes in seafood! ;-)
>
> John Kuthe...

Just a sensible bird! There's more eating on a Koi.

--
Jim Silverton

Extraneous "not" in Reply To.

On Mon, 20 Feb 2012 10:17:28 -0500, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 19/02/2012 8:51 PM, Jeßus wrote:
>
>>>
>>> No kidding! They almost looked like some Koi I have seen.
>>
>> Koi? I'll have one of them on my arm in a few weeks time... well, a
>> drawing of one, at least.
>
>
> I had some Koi in my back yard "water feature". I had a goldfish pond
>that I used to put goldfish in. One year I splurged and put in some Koi.
> At the time, those guys sold for $6-15 apiece. They started
>disappearing. My wife saw the last one go..... a Blue Heron. Those
>*******s never bothered with the gold fish that used to cots $1 per dozen.

it is common and something you have to put up with if you live near a
natural body of water that has a heron population.
Janet US

Janet Bostwick wrote:
>
> On Mon, Dave Smith wrote:
> > I had some Koi in my back yard "water feature". I had a goldfish pond
> >that I used to put goldfish in. One year I splurged and put in some Koi.
> > At the time, those guys sold for $6-15 apiece. They started
> >disappearing. My wife saw the last one go..... a Blue Heron. Those
> >*******s never bothered with the gold fish that used to cots $1 per dozen.
>
> it is common and something you have to put up with if you live near a
> natural body of water that has a heron population.

Easy Solution: Anyone have any good recipes for Blue Heron?

Gary

On Feb 20, 7:17*am, Dave Smith > wrote:
> On 19/02/2012 8:51 PM, Jeßus wrote:
>
>
>
> >> No kidding! They almost looked like some Koi I have seen.
>
> > Koi? I'll have one of them on my arm in a few weeks time... well, a
> > drawing of one, at least.
>
> * I had some Koi in my *back yard "water feature". I had a goldfish pond
> that I used to put goldfish in. One year I splurged and put in some Koi.
> * *At the time, those guys sold for $6-15 apiece. *They started
> disappearing. My wife saw the last one go..... a Blue Heron. *Those
> *******s never bothered with the gold fish that used to cots $1 per dozen..

LOL- I know someone that had the EXACT experience! Too funny...

On 20/02/2012 10:25 AM, Gary wrote:
> Dave Smith wrote:
>
>> I had some Koi in my back yard "water feature". I had a goldfish pond
>> that I used to put goldfish in. One year I splurged and put in some Koi.
>> At the time, those guys sold for $6-15 apiece. They started
>> disappearing. My wife saw the last one go..... a Blue Heron. Those
>> *******s never bothered with the gold fish that used to cots $1 per dozen.
>
> Evidently, Blue Heron's are gourmands. heheheh
>


I don't know if it is the owl decoy that I put up beside the pond or
that I replaced those apparently tasty Koi with the smaller and less
appetizing feeder goldfish, but they don't bother with these cheap carp.


FWIW.... I am pleased with the results of my goldfish pond experiment.
We used to have a problem with mosquitoes and it didn't help that we had
an orchard next door with lots of ruts and low lying area for the
mosquitoes to breed in. I figured that if there was a small pond it
would be the perfect place for the mosquitoes to breed. They could lay
their eggs in the nice calm water and then the larvae could live in the
pond, and if it was well stocked with fish who weren't being fed the
eggs and larvae would would become fish food.

I don't know if the fish pond gets all the credit for the reduced
mosquito population or if the neighbour sell the orchard and the new
owner building a house and landscaping the yard and getting rid of all
those water holding ruts.

On 20/02/2012 10:46 AM, Gary wrote:
> Janet Bostwick wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, Dave Smith wrote:
>>> I had some Koi in my back yard "water feature". I had a goldfish pond
>>> that I used to put goldfish in. One year I splurged and put in some Koi.
>>> At the time, those guys sold for $6-15 apiece. They started
>>> disappearing. My wife saw the last one go..... a Blue Heron. Those
>>> *******s never bothered with the gold fish that used to cots $1 per dozen.
>>
>> it is common and something you have to put up with if you live near a
>> natural body of water that has a heron population.
>
> Easy Solution: Anyone have any good recipes for Blue Heron?
>

It's not very good eating, sort of like a cross between whooping crane
and bald eagle.

On Mon, 20 Feb 2012 08:59:49 -0800 (PST), merryb >
wrote:

>On Feb 20, 7:17*am, Dave Smith > wrote:
>> On 19/02/2012 8:51 PM, Jeßus wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> >> No kidding! They almost looked like some Koi I have seen.
>>
>> > Koi? I'll have one of them on my arm in a few weeks time... well, a
>> > drawing of one, at least.
>>
>> * I had some Koi in my *back yard "water feature". I had a goldfish pond
>> that I used to put goldfish in. One year I splurged and put in some Koi.
>> * *At the time, those guys sold for $6-15 apiece. *They started
>> disappearing. My wife saw the last one go..... a Blue Heron. *Those
>> *******s never bothered with the gold fish that used to cots $1 per dozen.
>
>LOL- I know someone that had the EXACT experience! Too funny...

watch the roof tops in the neighborhood. Those cranes aren't sitting
up there to be charming. They are hunting. Personally, I am willing
to live with this kind of interaction of nature. Changing to gold
fish seemed to have solved the problem -- maybe. But millions of
people don't get the chance to see what goes on in wildlife. Enjoy
Janet US

On Sun, 19 Feb 2012 11:47:41 -0800 (PST), merryb >
wrote:

>On Feb 19, 9:19*am, Lou Decruss > wrote:
>> On Sat, 18 Feb 2012 18:13:39 -0500, Dave Smith
>>
>> > wrote:
>> >On 18/02/2012 5:32 PM, sf wrote:
>> >> On Sat, 18 Feb 2012 13:44:59 -0800 (PST), >
>> >> wrote:
>>
>> >>> Trout is a fish I have never bought- usually it's halibut or salmon.
>>
>> >> If you ever see steelhead trout (red fleshed rainbow trout that have
>> >> been at sea) - buy some, it's delicious!
>>
>> >It sure is.
>>
>> I agree. *Here Costco sells *steelhead "salmon." *This came up here
>> about a year ago and I did some googling. *The sites all have
>> something a little different about it. *This site words it in a simple
>> way if it's accurate.
>>
>> From he
>>
>> http://www.gosalmonfishing.com/salmo...-steelhead.php
>>
>> Steelhead salmon (Oncorhynchus mykiss) are commonly known as trout,
>> but in fact they are a species of salmon native to the Pacific region.
>> Land locked steelheads are also known as rainbow trout; in fact that
>> is their common name. The term steelhead is used to differentiate
>> between those rainbows that stay in fresh water permanently and those
>> that go out to the ocean. Both rainbow and steelhead trout will return
>> to the place where they hatched in order to spawn; therefore,
>> steelheads are an anadromous species. Unlike their Pacific salmon
>> cousins, steelheads and rainbows can spawn numerous times before
>> dying.
>
>Thanks- that is kinda confusing as I have always heard them referred
>to as a salmon!

Let's just call them cousins.

Lou

On Mon, 20 Feb 2012 12:39:11 -0500, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>I don't know if it is the owl decoy that I put up beside the pond or
>that I replaced those apparently tasty Koi with the smaller and less
>appetizing feeder goldfish, but they don't bother with these cheap carp.
>
>
>FWIW.... I am pleased with the results of my goldfish pond experiment.
>We used to have a problem with mosquitoes and it didn't help that we had
>an orchard next door with lots of ruts and low lying area for the
>mosquitoes to breed in. I figured that if there was a small pond it
>would be the perfect place for the mosquitoes to breed. They could lay
>their eggs in the nice calm water and then the larvae could live in the
>pond, and if it was well stocked with fish who weren't being fed the
>eggs and larvae would would become fish food.
>
>I don't know if the fish pond gets all the credit for the reduced
>mosquito population or if the neighbour sell the orchard and the new
>owner building a house and landscaping the yard and getting rid of all
>those water holding ruts.

Aren't you in Canada? How do you over winter them?

Lou

On 20/02/2012 1:21 PM, Lou Decruss wrote:

>> I don't know if the fish pond gets all the credit for the reduced
>> mosquito population or if the neighbour sell the orchard and the new
>> owner building a house and landscaping the yard and getting rid of all
>> those water holding ruts.
>
> Aren't you in Canada? How do you over winter them?
>

I put on a sweater and find a good book.

Oh... the fish.
The pond was an old well casing buried upright in the ground. It only
froze down about 6-8. I am in the Niagara peninsula and winters are
relatively mild here. The cold wouldn't kill them but the methane from
rotting vegetation would, so I got a cheap air pump and rain a line with
an air stone to aerate the water, which also helps to prevent it from
freezing completely. As long as the air pump survived the fish made it
through the winter.

This year as been exceptionally mild, and last summer I replaced that
old well casing pond with a plastic preformed pond. It is not as deep.
I raked out as many leaves as I could and hooked up the pond. It has not
frozen over completely yet this winter. There has always been at least
6" of open water so I can toss in some food. They seem fine this winter.