I've never tried the butterfly shaped pasta, but I am going to get
some this weekend. Would a basic tomatoe sauce be good with it or
could you recommend something better? I thought the above combo would
be good during Lent.

Suggestions?
Mark

On 2/22/2012 5:23 PM, Mark Farouk wrote:
> I've never tried the butterfly shaped pasta, but I am going to get
> some this weekend. Would a basic tomatoe sauce be good with it or
> could you recommend something better? I thought the above combo would
> be good during Lent.
>
> Suggestions?
> Mark

IMHO, any spaghetti sauce would be good; Alfredo and white sauces as
well as Ragu Bolognese etc. would be fine.

--
Jim Silverton

Extraneous "not" in Reply To.

Pasta is really my most favorite thing to eat in this world
i cant live without it


________________
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On Wed, 22 Feb 2012 17:23:49 -0500, Mark Farouk > wrote:

> I've never tried the butterfly shaped pasta, but I am going to get
> some this weekend. Would a basic tomatoe sauce be good with it or
> could you recommend something better? I thought the above combo would
> be good during Lent.
>
Look for recipes that call for farfalle or minifarfalle, farfallone or
farfallini. I like to use it in a salmon pasta salad.

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

Mark Farouk wrote:
> I've never tried the butterfly shaped pasta, but I am going to get
> some this weekend. Would a basic tomatoe sauce be good with it or
> could you recommend something better? I thought the above combo would
> be good during Lent.
>
> Suggestions?
> Mark

I like it in chicken soup.

"Julie Bove" > wrote:
> Mark Farouk wrote:
>> I've never tried the butterfly shaped pasta, but I am going to get
>> some this weekend. Would a basic tomatoe sauce be good with it or
>> could you recommend something better? I thought the above combo would
>> be good during Lent.
>>
>> Suggestions?
>> Mark
>
> I like it in chicken soup.

I took home chicken soup and similar noodles from sister last month.
Leftover noodles I added some prego tomato basil. Just can't twirl.

Greg

On 2/22/2012 4:23 PM, Mark Farouk wrote:
> I've never tried the butterfly shaped pasta, but I am going to get
> some this weekend. Would a basic tomatoe sauce be good with it or
> could you recommend something better? I thought the above combo would
> be good during Lent.
>
> Suggestions?
> Mark

Google kasha varnishkas.

--
Janet Wilder
Way-the-heck-south Texas
Spelling doesn't count. Cooking does.

On Feb 22, 5:38*pm, Janet Wilder > wrote:
> On 2/22/2012 4:23 PM, Mark Farouk wrote:
>
> > I've never tried the butterfly shaped pasta, but I am going to get
> > some this weekend. Would a basic tomatoe sauce be good with it or
> > could you recommend something better? I thought the above combo would
> > be good during Lent.
>
> > Suggestions?
> > Mark
>
> Google kasha varnishkas.

Oooooo good suggestion!

On Feb 22, 8:26*pm, projectile vomit chick
> wrote:
> On Feb 22, 5:38*pm, Janet Wilder > wrote:
>
> > On 2/22/2012 4:23 PM, Mark Farouk wrote:
>
> > > I've never tried the butterfly shaped pasta, but I am going to get
> > > some this weekend. Would a basic tomatoe sauce be good with it or
> > > could you recommend something better? I thought the above combo would
> > > be good during Lent.
>
> > > Suggestions?
> > > Mark
>
> > Google kasha varnishkas.
>
> Oooooo good suggestion!

Very ecumenical. But what if you want to have a meatless meal -- the
recipe I saw on line calls for chicken stock?

On 2/23/2012 1:26 AM, spamtrap1888 wrote:
> On Feb 22, 8:26 pm, projectile vomit chick
> > wrote:
>> On Feb 22, 5:38 pm, Janet > wrote:
>>
>>> On 2/22/2012 4:23 PM, Mark Farouk wrote:
>>
>>>> I've never tried the butterfly shaped pasta, but I am going to get
>>>> some this weekend. Would a basic tomatoe sauce be good with it or
>>>> could you recommend something better? I thought the above combo would
>>>> be good during Lent.
>>
>>>> Suggestions?
>>>> Mark
>>
>>> Google kasha varnishkas.
>>
>> Oooooo good suggestion!
>
> Very ecumenical. But what if you want to have a meatless meal -- the
> recipe I saw on line calls for chicken stock?

Use vegetable broth.

--
Janet Wilder
Way-the-heck-south Texas
Spelling doesn't count. Cooking does.

>>>
>>>> Google kasha varnishkas.
>>>
>>> Oooooo good suggestion!
>>
>> Very ecumenical. But what if you want to have a meatless meal -- the
>> recipe I saw on line calls for chicken stock?
>
>Use vegetable broth.

Yes, you are right. I did not think about the chicken stock. Silly
me..

Thanks also for the recommendation re vegetable stock.

Mark Farouk

On 2/22/2012 6:38 PM, Janet Wilder wrote:

> On 2/22/2012 4:23 PM, Mark Farouk wrote:
>> I've never tried the butterfly shaped pasta, but I am going to get
>> some this weekend. Would a basic tomatoe sauce be good with it or
>> could you recommend something better? I thought the above combo would
>> be good during Lent.
>>
>> Suggestions?
>> Mark
>
> Google kasha varnishkas.
>



After that I had to google buckwheat groats. Looks interesting.

On Thu, 23 Feb 2012 20:56:00 -0500, Cheryl >
wrote:

>On 2/22/2012 6:38 PM, Janet Wilder wrote:
>
>> On 2/22/2012 4:23 PM, Mark Farouk wrote:
>>> I've never tried the butterfly shaped pasta, but I am going to get
>>> some this weekend. Would a basic tomatoe sauce be good with it or
>>> could you recommend something better? I thought the above combo would
>>> be good during Lent.
>>>
>>> Suggestions?
>>> Mark
>>
>> Google kasha varnishkas.
>
>After that I had to google buckwheat groats. Looks interesting.

Looks intersting and tastes wonderful:
http://i43.tinypic.com/33upv8y.jpg

http://tinypic.com/r/21edzpe/5

On Thu, 23 Feb 2012 21:12:17 -0500, Brooklyn1 <Gravesend1> wrote:

>On Thu, 23 Feb 2012 20:56:00 -0500, Cheryl >
>wrote:
>
>>On 2/22/2012 6:38 PM, Janet Wilder wrote:
>>
>>> On 2/22/2012 4:23 PM, Mark Farouk wrote:
>>>> I've never tried the butterfly shaped pasta, but I am going to get
>>>> some this weekend. Would a basic tomatoe sauce be good with it or
>>>> could you recommend something better? I thought the above combo would
>>>> be good during Lent.
>>>>
>>>> Suggestions?
>>>> Mark
>>>
>>> Google kasha varnishkas.
>>
>>After that I had to google buckwheat groats. Looks interesting.
>
>Looks intersting and tastes wonderful:
>http://i43.tinypic.com/33upv8y.jpg
>
>http://tinypic.com/r/21edzpe/5

Dam, that looks real good!

Mark

On Feb 22, 4:23*pm, Mark Farouk > wrote:
> I've never tried the butterfly shaped pasta, but I am going to get
> some this weekend. Would a basic tomatoe sauce be good with it or
> could you recommend something better? I thought the above combo would
> be good during Lent.
>
> Suggestions?
> Mark

What the **** is butterfly shaped pasta? Do you mean farfalle?

Go vomit someplace else. Some boxes are labeled "Farfale", others "Butterflies".

Jerry
--
"The rights of the best of men are secured only as the
rights of the vilest and most abhorrent are protected."
- Chief Justice Charles Evans Hughes, 1927

On Feb 23, 1:05*pm, Jerry Avins > wrote:
> Go vomit someplace else. Some boxes are labeled "Farfale", others "Butterflies".
>
> Jerry
> --
> * * * "The rights of the best of men are secured only as the
> * * * rights of the vilest and most abhorrent are protected."
> * * * * * - Chief Justice Charles Evans Hughes, 1927

Some call it bowtie pasta too. Good in soups, as it's easy to snag
widjur spoon.

On Feb 23, 12:05*pm, Jerry Avins > wrote:
> Go vomit someplace else. Some boxes are labeled "Farfale", others "Butterflies".

LOL

On Friday, February 24, 2012 9:50:30 PM UTC-5, projectile vomit chick wrote:
> On Feb 23, 12:05*pm, Jerry Avins > wrote:
> > Go vomit someplace else. Some boxes are labeled "Farfale", others "Butterflies".
>
> LOL

Some people call them bow ties.

Jerry
--
Engineering is the art of making what you want from things you can get.

Look up "Kashe Varnishkes". Here's a recipe: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/22/dining/221mrex.html
--
"The rights of the best of men are secured only as the
rights of the vilest and most abhorrent are protected."
- Chief Justice Charles Evans Hughes, 1927

On Feb 23, 10:04*am, Jerry Avins > wrote:
> Look up "Kashe Varnishkes". Here's a recipe:http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/22/dining/221mrex.html

Jerry, you seem to be using the new Googlegroups interface, which
completely deletes all previous text, making it hard to know which
post you are responding to. Can you revert to the previous interface,
as I have?

On Thursday, February 23, 2012 1:39:03 PM UTC-5, spamtrap1888 wrote:
> On Feb 23, 10:04*am, Jerry Avins > wrote:
> > Look up "Kashe Varnishkes". Here's a recipe:http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/22/dining/221mrex.html
>
> Jerry, you seem to be using the new Googlegroups interface, which
> completely deletes all previous text, making it hard to know which
> post you are responding to. Can you revert to the previous interface,
> as I have?

How is this?

Jerry
--
Engineering is the art of making what you want from things you can get.

On Thu, 23 Feb 2012 10:04:04 -0800 (PST), Jerry Avins >
wrote:

>Look up "Kashe Varnishkes". Here's a recipe: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/22/dining/221mrex.html

Sounds good! Thanks for the recipe!

Mark

On Thu, 23 Feb 2012 10:04:04 -0800 (PST), Jerry Avins >
wrote:

>Look up "Kashe Varnishkes". Here's a recipe: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/22/dining/221mrex.html

I forgot to ask: is kasha (buckwheat groats) something that is
available at most larger grocery stores? Is there a particular brand I
should look for?

Thanks,
Mark

Mark Farouk wrote:

>I forgot to ask: is kasha (buckwheat groats) something that is
>available at most larger grocery stores?

Probably not, but I'll bet WF has it. Otherwise a natural-food
specialty shop or health-food shop.

On Thu, 23 Feb 2012 15:22:16 -0500, George M. Middius
> wrote:

> Mark Farouk wrote:
>
> >I forgot to ask: is kasha (buckwheat groats) something that is
> >available at most larger grocery stores?
>
> Probably not, but I'll bet WF has it. Otherwise a natural-food
> specialty shop or health-food shop.

I saw it at Safeway, so a large chain will have at least one brand of
Kasha.

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

On Thu, 23 Feb 2012 15:22:16 -0500, George M. Middius
> wrote:

>Mark Farouk wrote:
>
>>I forgot to ask: is kasha (buckwheat groats) something that is
>>available at most larger grocery stores?
>
>Probably not, but I'll bet WF has it. Otherwise a natural-food
>specialty shop or health-food shop.

Most every stupidmarket sells kasha, my little rural market has Wolf's
Kasha, even Walmart, and Amazon.
http://www.amazon.com/Wolffs-Roasted...0033703&sr=1-1

On Thu, 23 Feb 2012 15:22:16 -0500, George M. Middius
> wrote:

>Mark Farouk wrote:
>
>>I forgot to ask: is kasha (buckwheat groats) something that is
>>available at most larger grocery stores?
>
>Probably not, but I'll bet WF has it. Otherwise a natural-food
>specialty shop or health-food shop.

I hope this does not sound too stupid, but if I went to a major
grocery store, would this be something that would be in the cereal
area?

Thanks,
Mark

On Fri, 24 Feb 2012 13:26:19 -0500, Mark Farouk > wrote:

> I hope this does not sound too stupid, but if I went to a major
> grocery store, would this be something that would be in the cereal
> area?

I think I saw kasha in the rice area. You can always ask someone if
you don't find it on your own.

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

Mark Farouk wrote:

>>>I forgot to ask: is kasha (buckwheat groats) something that is
>>>available at most larger grocery stores?
>>
>>Probably not, but I'll bet WF has it. Otherwise a natural-food
>>specialty shop or health-food shop.
>
>I hope this does not sound too stupid, but if I went to a major
>grocery store, would this be something that would be in the cereal
>area?

More likely with the flours, or possibly with oatmeal (cereal).

On Fri, 24 Feb 2012 13:26:19 -0500, Mark Farouk > wrote:

>On Thu, 23 Feb 2012 15:22:16 -0500, George M. Middius
> wrote:
>
>>Mark Farouk wrote:
>>
>>>I forgot to ask: is kasha (buckwheat groats) something that is
>>>available at most larger grocery stores?
>>
>>Probably not, but I'll bet WF has it. Otherwise a natural-food
>>specialty shop or health-food shop.
>
>I hope this does not sound too stupid, but if I went to a major
>grocery store, would this be something that would be in the cereal
>area?

I just noticed some yesterday. In the 'international foods' section.
And now I can't remember which 'inter-nation' it was in. [the one I
picked up was Wolff's, made in western NY]

I'll also note that Wolff's Kasha is ground, toasted buckwheat.
Buckwheat groats can be purchased whole at most healthfood stores.
there is little similarity between the products.

I don't remember what the original use was in this thread-- but I
don't think you can just sub one for the other.

Jim

On Thu, 23 Feb 2012 14:26:12 -0500, Mark Farouk > wrote:

> On Thu, 23 Feb 2012 10:04:04 -0800 (PST), Jerry Avins >
> wrote:
>
> >Look up "Kashe Varnishkes". Here's a recipe: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/22/dining/221mrex.html
>
> I forgot to ask: is kasha (buckwheat groats) something that is
> available at most larger grocery stores? Is there a particular brand I
> should look for?
>
Kasha isn't something I look for and buy, but I think I just saw one
brand when I noticed it last time... so it's a take it or leave it
situation if you don't want to go from store to store.

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

On 2/23/2012 1:26 PM, Mark Farouk wrote:
> On Thu, 23 Feb 2012 10:04:04 -0800 (PST), Jerry >
> wrote:
>
>> Look up "Kashe Varnishkes". Here's a recipe: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/22/dining/221mrex.html
>
> I forgot to ask: is kasha (buckwheat groats) something that is
> available at most larger grocery stores? Is there a particular brand I
> should look for?
>
> Thanks,
> Mark

Wolff's. I don't know of any other brand and if there is another no one
in my world ever used it.

--
Janet Wilder
Way-the-heck-south Texas
Spelling doesn't count. Cooking does.

On Feb 23, 2:36*pm, Janet Wilder > wrote:
> On 2/23/2012 1:26 PM, Mark Farouk wrote:
>
> > On Thu, 23 Feb 2012 10:04:04 -0800 (PST), Jerry >
> > wrote:
>
> >> Look up "Kashe Varnishkes". Here's a recipe:http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/22/dining/221mrex.html
>
> > I forgot to ask: is kasha (buckwheat groats) something that is
> > available at most larger grocery stores? Is there a particular brand I
> > should look for?
>
> > Thanks,
> > Mark
>
> Wolff's. *I don't know of any other brand and if there is another no one
> in my world ever used it.
>

I see that kasha (Wolff's anyways) is _roasted_ buckwheat groats.
Other vendors seem to sell plain old groats.

On Thursday, February 23, 2012 2:26:12 PM UTC-5, Mark Farouk wrote:
> On Thu, 23 Feb 2012 10:04:04 -0800 (PST), Jerry Avins >
> wrote:
>
> >Look up "Kashe Varnishkes". Here's a recipe: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/22/dining/221mrex.html
>
> I forgot to ask: is kasha (buckwheat groats) something that is
> available at most larger grocery stores? Is there a particular brand I
> should look for?

Buckwheat is usually on supermarket shelves. It's available raw or roasted. The word "kasha" is east European, it's use is similar to "corn" which is Anglo-Saxon. Both mean "grain" and denote the common grain of the locality. In the US, "corn" means maize; in Scotland, it means barley. In Yiddish (and presumably Polish) kasha means buckwheat. Somewhere, it means wheat. Be warned. Here in the US, "kasha" usually means roasted buckwheat groats. If my Yiddish were better, I might know what "varnishkes" means.

Jerry
--
Engineering is the art of making what you want from things you can get.

On Sat, 25 Feb 2012 02:33:07 -0800 (PST), Jerry Avins >
wrote:

>On Thursday, February 23, 2012 2:26:12 PM UTC-5, Mark Farouk wrote:
>> On Thu, 23 Feb 2012 10:04:04 -0800 (PST), Jerry Avins >
>> wrote:
>>
>> >Look up "Kashe Varnishkes". Here's a recipe: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/22/dining/221mrex.html
>>
>> I forgot to ask: is kasha (buckwheat groats) something that is
>> available at most larger grocery stores? Is there a particular brand I
>> should look for?
>
>Buckwheat is usually on supermarket shelves. It's available raw or roasted. The word "kasha" is east European, it's use is similar to "corn" which is Anglo-Saxon. Both mean "grain" and denote the common grain of the locality. In the US, "corn" means maize; in Scotland, it means barley. In Yiddish (and presumably Polish) kasha means buckwheat. Somewhere, it means wheat. Be warned. Here in the US, "kasha" usually means roasted buckwheat groats. If my Yiddish were better, I might know what "varnishkes" means.
>
>Jerry

For the recipe, above, which would be better: raw or toasted (if
available both ways)? Also, if I would make extra, would this type of
dish be alright to put in the fridge, say for the next day or would
the essence of the dish be destroyed?

Mark

On Saturday, February 25, 2012 11:11:53 AM UTC-5, Mark Farouk wrote:

...

> For the recipe, above, which would be better: raw or toasted (if
> available both ways)? Also, if I would make extra, would this type of
> dish be alright to put in the fridge, say for the next day or would
> the essence of the dish be destroyed?

It's the pasta you need to be careful with. The last time I reheated some there was no microwave around. I boiled a little water in a skillet, but the leftovers in covered briefly, then uncovered to get rid of excess water. It was fine. I don't cook it often. Buckwheat in any form isn't one of my favorites.

Jerry
--
Engineering is the art of making what you want from things you can get.

On Sat, 25 Feb 2012 11:11:53 -0500, Mark Farouk > wrote:

>On Sat, 25 Feb 2012 02:33:07 -0800 (PST), Jerry Avins >
>wrote:
>
>>On Thursday, February 23, 2012 2:26:12 PM UTC-5, Mark Farouk wrote:
>>> On Thu, 23 Feb 2012 10:04:04 -0800 (PST), Jerry Avins >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> >Look up "Kashe Varnishkes". Here's a recipe: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/22/dining/221mrex.html
>>>
>>> I forgot to ask: is kasha (buckwheat groats) something that is
>>> available at most larger grocery stores? Is there a particular brand I
>>> should look for?
>>
>>Buckwheat is usually on supermarket shelves. It's available raw or roasted. The word "kasha" is east European, it's use is similar to "corn" which is Anglo-Saxon. Both mean "grain" and denote the common grain of the locality. In the US, "corn" means maize; in Scotland, it means barley. In Yiddish (and presumably Polish) kasha means buckwheat. Somewhere, it means wheat. Be warned. Here in the US, "kasha" usually means roasted buckwheat groats. If my Yiddish were better, I might know what "varnishkes" means.
>>
>>Jerry
>
>For the recipe, above, which would be better: raw or toasted (if
>available both ways)? Also, if I would make extra, would this type of
>dish be alright to put in the fridge, say for the next day or would
>the essence of the dish be destroyed?

Cooked kasha can certainly be refrigerated, in fact it freezes very
well... I make lots and freeze it in quart containers, reheat in the
microwave. I buy the toasted verson but usually still toast it
further. I also buy 50 pound sacks (needs to be toasted), has nearly
doubled in price since last year, probably due to the increase in the
cost of diesel, that's why pasta and other wheat product prices are so
high:
http://store.honeyvillegrain.com/who...wheat50lb.aspx
Buckwheat contains all the essential amino acids but one, its protein
is closest to meat of any other vegetable.

Jerry Avins > wrote:

> Buckwheat is usually on supermarket shelves. It's available raw or
> roasted. The word "kasha" is east European, it's use is similar to "corn"
> which is Anglo-Saxon. Both mean "grain" and denote the common grain of the
> locality. In the US, "corn" means maize; in Scotland, it means barley. In
> Yiddish (and presumably Polish) kasha means buckwheat. Somewhere, it means
> wheat. Be warned. Here in the US, "kasha" usually means roasted buckwheat
> groats. If my Yiddish were better, I might know what "varnishkes" means.

Jerry, are you aware that your posts, each consisting of an endless
line, are hardly readable on many newsreaders? Why insist on using
broken junk, like groups.google? I had to re-wrap your line above,
keeping it properly quoted, which is fortunately easy in my newsreader,
otherwise I wouldn't have bothered.

Regarding kasha, here is an entry from the rfc FAQ:

KASHA - A Russian word meaning porridge or gruel made from any kind
of cereal, the grain being either whole or variously split or cracked.
There are millet, semolina, oat, buckwheat, rice, etc., kashas. In the
US-English, kasha, for some reason, came to mean buckwheat groats.

In other words, kasha, like polenta, is a dish, not an ingredient.

"Varnishkes" is a corruption of "vareniki", just like the whole dish of
"kasha varnishkes" is a lazy version of vareniki (Ukrainian dumplings,
akin to kreplach, etc.) filled, in this case, with buckwheat kasha.

Victor

On 2/23/2012 12:04 PM, Jerry Avins wrote:
> Look up "Kashe Varnishkes". Here's a recipe: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/22/dining/221mrex.html

I always toast the kasha in a dry skillet with the egg mixed in. That
recipe would work with butter if no schmaltz.

--
Janet Wilder
Way-the-heck-south Texas
Spelling doesn't count. Cooking does.