I know some call them by other names, but to me ground meat in a tangy
"tomatoey" sauce served in a hamburger bun, is a sloppy joe, and always
been popular at our house.

How do you make them at home (if you do)?

Now that we're more conscious of our diet, I've been using ground
turkey, instead of beef, and makes a excellent sandwich.

Judy

On Mar 8, 12:23*pm, (Judy Haffner) wrote:
> I know some call them by other names, but to me ground meat in a tangy
> "tomatoey" sauce served in a hamburger bun, is a sloppy joe, and always
> been popular at our house.
>
> How do you make them at home (if you do)?
>
> Now that we're more conscious of our diet, I've been using ground
> turkey, instead of beef, and makes a excellent sandwich.
>
> Judy

A can of Manwich, some cheapo burger buns and call it a done deal.

Chemo the Clown wrote:
>
> On Mar 8, 12:23 pm, (Judy Haffner) wrote:
> > I know some call them by other names, but to me ground meat in a tangy
> > "tomatoey" sauce served in a hamburger bun, is a sloppy joe, and always
> > been popular at our house.
> >
> > How do you make them at home (if you do)?
> >
> > Now that we're more conscious of our diet, I've been using ground
> > turkey, instead of beef, and makes a excellent sandwich.
> >
> > Judy
>
> A can of Manwich, some cheapo burger buns and call it a done deal.

That's what I make when I'm in the mood. do I add some ground beef? I
forget...it's been a long time.

Gary

On Mar 8, 2:23*pm, (Judy Haffner) wrote:
> I know some call them by other names, but to me ground meat in a tangy
> "tomatoey" sauce served in a hamburger bun, is a sloppy joe, and always
> been popular at our house.
>
> How do you make them at home (if you do)?
>
> Now that we're more conscious of our diet, I've been using ground
> turkey, instead of beef, and makes a excellent sandwich.

I think it would taste better with beef. If you're trying to avoid
beef fat, just use leaner ground beef. "Besides*, do you even know
the difference between beef fat and turkey fat? I assume the answer
is no. Using ground turkey because it's cheaper, or if you happen to
like the taste better is perfectly legit. Using it because you think
that it's a lot healthful than beef is bogus. In some ways, it is
less healthful
>
> Judy

--Bryan

On Thu, 8 Mar 2012 12:32:39 -0800 (PST), Chemo the Clown
> wrote:

> A can of Manwich, some cheapo burger buns and call it a done deal.

I've always liked that, unfortunately I'm the only one in the family
who does.

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

On Mar 8, 4:17*pm, Bryan > wrote:
> On Mar 8, 2:23*pm, (Judy Haffner) wrote:
>
> > I know some call them by other names, but to me ground meat in a tangy
> > "tomatoey" sauce served in a hamburger bun, is a sloppy joe, and always
> > been popular at our house.
>
> > How do you make them at home (if you do)?
>
> > Now that we're more conscious of our diet, I've been using ground
> > turkey, instead of beef, and makes a excellent sandwich.
>
> I think it would taste better with beef. *If you're trying to avoid
> beef fat, just use leaner ground beef. *"Besides*, do you even know
> the difference between beef fat and turkey fat? *I assume the answer
> is no. *Using ground turkey because it's cheaper, or if you happen to
> like the taste better is perfectly legit. *Using it because you think
> that it's a lot healthful than beef is bogus. *In some ways, it is
> less healthful
>

I don't buy ground poultry. I suspect that they may grind in the
skin, and perhaps too much fat. etc. If you grind it yourself, and
put in the lean stuff, different story.

On Mar 8, 12:32*pm, Chemo the Clown > wrote:
> On Mar 8, 12:23*pm, (Judy Haffner) wrote:
>
> > I know some call them by other names, but to me ground meat in a tangy
> > "tomatoey" sauce served in a hamburger bun, is a sloppy joe, and always
> > been popular at our house.
>
> > How do you make them at home (if you do)?
>
> > Now that we're more conscious of our diet, I've been using ground
> > turkey, instead of beef, and makes a excellent sandwich.
>
> > Judy
>
> A can of Manwich, some cheapo burger buns and call it a done deal.

Don't forget the Dr. Pepper!

On Mar 8, 1:55*pm, A Moose in Love > wrote:
> On Mar 8, 4:17*pm, Bryan > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Mar 8, 2:23*pm, (Judy Haffner) wrote:
>
> > > I know some call them by other names, but to me ground meat in a tangy
> > > "tomatoey" sauce served in a hamburger bun, is a sloppy joe, and always
> > > been popular at our house.
>
> > > How do you make them at home (if you do)?
>
> > > Now that we're more conscious of our diet, I've been using ground
> > > turkey, instead of beef, and makes a excellent sandwich.
>
> > I think it would taste better with beef. *If you're trying to avoid
> > beef fat, just use leaner ground beef. *"Besides*, do you even know
> > the difference between beef fat and turkey fat? *I assume the answer
> > is no. *Using ground turkey because it's cheaper, or if you happen to
> > like the taste better is perfectly legit. *Using it because you think
> > that it's a lot healthful than beef is bogus. *In some ways, it is
> > less healthful
>
> I don't buy ground poultry. *I suspect that they may grind in the
> skin, and perhaps too much fat. etc. *If you grind it yourself, and
> put in the lean stuff, different story.

You're paranoid.

On Mar 8, 2:04*pm, merryb > wrote:
> On Mar 8, 12:32*pm, Chemo the Clown > wrote:
>
> > On Mar 8, 12:23*pm, (Judy Haffner) wrote:
>
> > > I know some call them by other names, but to me ground meat in a tangy
> > > "tomatoey" sauce served in a hamburger bun, is a sloppy joe, and always
> > > been popular at our house.
>
> > > How do you make them at home (if you do)?
>
> > > Now that we're more conscious of our diet, I've been using ground
> > > turkey, instead of beef, and makes a excellent sandwich.
>
> > > Judy
>
> > A can of Manwich, some cheapo burger buns and call it a done deal.
>
> Don't forget the Dr. Pepper!

Oh yeah!

On Mar 8, 5:42*pm, Chemo the Clown > wrote:
> On Mar 8, 2:04*pm, merryb > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Mar 8, 12:32*pm, Chemo the Clown > wrote:
>
> > > On Mar 8, 12:23*pm, (Judy Haffner) wrote:
>
> > > > I know some call them by other names, but to me ground meat in a tangy
> > > > "tomatoey" sauce served in a hamburger bun, is a sloppy joe, and always
> > > > been popular at our house.
>
> > > > How do you make them at home (if you do)?
>
> > > > Now that we're more conscious of our diet, I've been using ground
> > > > turkey, instead of beef, and makes a excellent sandwich.
>
> > > > Judy
>
> > > A can of Manwich, some cheapo burger buns and call it a done deal.
>
> > Don't forget the Dr. Pepper!
>
> Oh yeah!

At least up here in Canada, in Canada way up yonder to the north,
(except for Haffner) they changed the formula for Dr. Pepper. I don't
like it as much anymore. It's kind of creamy like.

On Mar 8, 2:47*pm, A Moose in Love > wrote:
> On Mar 8, 5:42*pm, Chemo the Clown > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Mar 8, 2:04*pm, merryb > wrote:
>
> > > On Mar 8, 12:32*pm, Chemo the Clown > wrote:
>
> > > > On Mar 8, 12:23*pm, (Judy Haffner) wrote:
>
> > > > > I know some call them by other names, but to me ground meat in a tangy
> > > > > "tomatoey" sauce served in a hamburger bun, is a sloppy joe, and always
> > > > > been popular at our house.
>
> > > > > How do you make them at home (if you do)?
>
> > > > > Now that we're more conscious of our diet, I've been using ground
> > > > > turkey, instead of beef, and makes a excellent sandwich.
>
> > > > > Judy
>
> > > > A can of Manwich, some cheapo burger buns and call it a done deal.
>
> > > Don't forget the Dr. Pepper!
>
> > Oh yeah!
>
> At least up here in Canada, in Canada way up yonder to the north,
> (except for Haffner) they changed the formula for Dr. Pepper. *I don't
> like it as much anymore. *It's kind of creamy like.

Dr Pepper was something I craved when I was pregnant! That and
peaches...

On Mar 8, 3:55*pm, A Moose in Love > wrote:
> On Mar 8, 4:17*pm, Bryan > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Mar 8, 2:23*pm, (Judy Haffner) wrote:
>
> > > I know some call them by other names, but to me ground meat in a tangy
> > > "tomatoey" sauce served in a hamburger bun, is a sloppy joe, and always
> > > been popular at our house.
>
> > > How do you make them at home (if you do)?
>
> > > Now that we're more conscious of our diet, I've been using ground
> > > turkey, instead of beef, and makes a excellent sandwich.
>
> > I think it would taste better with beef. *If you're trying to avoid
> > beef fat, just use leaner ground beef. *"Besides*, do you even know
> > the difference between beef fat and turkey fat? *I assume the answer
> > is no. *Using ground turkey because it's cheaper, or if you happen to
> > like the taste better is perfectly legit. *Using it because you think
> > that it's a lot healthful than beef is bogus. *In some ways, it is
> > less healthful
>
> I don't buy ground poultry. *I suspect that they may grind in the
> skin, and perhaps too much fat. etc. *If you grind it yourself, and
> put in the lean stuff, different story.

If you knew more about fat, you'd probably be less concerned about
animal fats, especially in moderation. I bought a bit less than
1-1/2# of ground sirloin, and I melted about a tablespoon of refined
(tasteless) coconut oil into the pan before browning it.. It's going
to end up as chili.

I think the skin is the best tasting part of poultry, and of pork for
that matter.

--Bryan

(Judy Haffner) wrote in news:21768-4F59155D-161
@storefull-3253.bay.webtv.net:

>
> I know some call them by other names,



I like sloppy joes, especially during the colder weather. I prefer the
darker coloured ones though, and try to stay away from the greys.


http://www.blankclothing.com.au/plain-sloppy-joes.html



:-)

Everytime you lot start talking about eating 'sloppy joes'.... I have to
stop the mental picture of someone chewing on a jumper :-)


--
Peter
Tasmania
Australia

On Mar 8, 6:13*pm, Bryan > wrote:
> On Mar 8, 3:55*pm, A Moose in Love > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Mar 8, 4:17*pm, Bryan > wrote:
>
> > > On Mar 8, 2:23*pm, (Judy Haffner) wrote:
>
> > > > I know some call them by other names, but to me ground meat in a tangy
> > > > "tomatoey" sauce served in a hamburger bun, is a sloppy joe, and always
> > > > been popular at our house.
>
> > > > How do you make them at home (if you do)?
>
> > > > Now that we're more conscious of our diet, I've been using ground
> > > > turkey, instead of beef, and makes a excellent sandwich.
>
> > > I think it would taste better with beef. *If you're trying to avoid
> > > beef fat, just use leaner ground beef. *"Besides*, do you even know
> > > the difference between beef fat and turkey fat? *I assume the answer
> > > is no. *Using ground turkey because it's cheaper, or if you happen to
> > > like the taste better is perfectly legit. *Using it because you think
> > > that it's a lot healthful than beef is bogus. *In some ways, it is
> > > less healthful
>
> > I don't buy ground poultry. *I suspect that they may grind in the
> > skin, and perhaps too much fat. etc. *If you grind it yourself, and
> > put in the lean stuff, different story.
>
> If you knew more about fat, you'd probably be less concerned about
> animal fats, especially in moderation. *I bought a bit less than
> 1-1/2# of ground sirloin, and I melted about a tablespoon of refined
> (tasteless) coconut oil into the pan before browning it.. *It's going
> to end up as chili.
>
> I think the skin is the best tasting part of poultry, and of pork for
> that matter.

I sure don't take the skin off of roast turkey. I am a tad concerned
however about what exactly goes into ground poultry here (fatwise).
And the amounts in there. I know that animal fats are made out to be
worse than they are. Like I said, even in my original post, 'too much
fat' is not something I want. The Inuit people did not have a healthy
diet in the past. Too much fat/meat??? Even all that good ole' seal
oil didn't counteract the effects of their diet. Now, their diet is
prolly less healthy if they are getting all the processed foods that
they never had before.
Having said that, Ted Nugent (the guy that wants to kill people who
wear laundry on their head) swears by venison.


>
> --Bryan

On Mar 8, 2:32*pm, Chemo the Clown > wrote:
>
> On Mar 8, 12:23*pm, (Judy Haffner) wrote:
>
> > I know some call them by other names, but to me ground meat in a tangy
> > "tomatoey" sauce served in a hamburger bun, is a sloppy joe, and always
> > been popular at our house.
>
> > How do you make them at home (if you do)?
>
> > Now that we're more conscious of our diet, I've been using ground
> > turkey, instead of beef, and makes a excellent sandwich.
>
> > Judy
>
> A can of Manwich, some cheapo burger buns and call it a done deal.
>
>
Same here.

Chemo the Clown > wrote:
> On Mar 8, 2:04 pm, merryb > wrote:
>> On Mar 8, 12:32 pm, Chemo the Clown > wrote:
>>
>>> On Mar 8, 12:23 pm, (Judy Haffner) wrote:
>>
>>>> I know some call them by other names, but to me ground meat in a tangy
>>>> "tomatoey" sauce served in a hamburger bun, is a sloppy joe, and always
>>>> been popular at our house.
>>
>>>> How do you make them at home (if you do)?
>>
>>>> Now that we're more conscious of our diet, I've been using ground
>>>> turkey, instead of beef, and makes a excellent sandwich.
>>
>>>> Judy
>>
>>> A can of Manwich, some cheapo burger buns and call it a done deal.
>>
>> Don't forget the Dr. Pepper!
>
> Oh yeah!

I have not had a sloppy Joe for ages. They taste ok. I hate the sloppiness
of it.

How about an isaly's chipped ham sandwich with a can of pop ?

Greg

On Thu, 8 Mar 2012 12:32:39 -0800 (PST), Chemo the Clown
> wrote:

>On Mar 8, 12:23*pm, (Judy Haffner) wrote:
>> I know some call them by other names, but to me ground meat in a tangy
>> "tomatoey" sauce served in a hamburger bun, is a sloppy joe, and always
>> been popular at our house.
>>
>> How do you make them at home (if you do)?
>>
>> Now that we're more conscious of our diet, I've been using ground
>> turkey, instead of beef, and makes a excellent sandwich.
>>
>> Judy
>
>A can of Manwich, some cheapo burger buns and call it a done deal.

I like Not-So-Sloppy better.

http://www.hormelfoods.com/brands/no...e/default.aspx

Lou

Judy Haffner wrote:
>
> I know some call them by other names, but to me ground meat in a tangy
> "tomatoey" sauce served in a hamburger bun, is a sloppy joe, and always
> been popular at our house.
> How do you make them at home (if you do)?
> Now that we're more conscious of our diet, I've been using ground
> turkey, instead of beef.

That would be sloppy seconds.

Lou Decruss wrote:
> On Thu, 8 Mar 2012 12:32:39 -0800 (PST), Chemo the Clown
> wrote:
>
>>On Mar 8, 12:23?pm, (Judy Haffner) wrote:
>>> I know some call them by other names, but to me ground meat in a tangy
>>> "tomatoey" sauce served in a hamburger bun, is a sloppy joe, and always
>>> been popular at our house.
>>>
>>> How do you make them at home (if you do)?
>>>
>>> Now that we're more conscious of our diet, I've been using ground
>>> turkey, instead of beef, and makes a excellent sandwich.
>>>
>>> Judy
>>
>>A can of Manwich, some cheapo burger buns and call it a done deal.
>
> I like Not-So-Sloppy better.
>
> http://www.hormelfoods.com/brands/no...e/default.aspx
>
> Lou

nice

Judy Haffner wrote:

> I know some call them by other names, but to me ground meat in a tangy
> "tomatoey" sauce served in a hamburger bun, is a sloppy joe, and
> always been popular at our house.
>
> How do you make them at home (if you do)?

I don't know if what I do is really a SJ but I was talking about it in a
chat and a couple persons from the US told me so, let's see.
I sautee some minced white onion in EVO oil over low heat, sometimes I add
garlic, then add not-very-lean ground beef and raise the heat to medium high
for some minutes during which I brown the meat, sometimes putting some white
wine in it. After that I add a little of tomato preserve (just tomato and
salt), salt, pepper and sometimes hot pepper, switch the heat to minimum and
cover the pan. I let it go like that for about 30 minutes, during which I
sometimes stir it and add some water if it's drying up. I love to serve it
as a sandwich in ciabatta bread, but it works well on fluffy almost
hamburger-like buns. For an extra I sometimes add cheese, if it's thin and
easy to melt I put it directly in the sandwich, otherwise I put it in the
pan when I turn the heat off and let it melt there. This recipe comes from a
simple adaptation of a dish my mom cooked when I was a toddler, the only
differences are that she used to serve it in dishes and she didn't add
cheese to it, but the basics were all the ground meat, onion and some
tomato.

A Moose in Love wrote:

> I don't buy ground poultry. I suspect that they may grind in the
> skin, and perhaps too much fat. etc. If you grind it yourself, and
> put in the lean stuff, different story.

You can not know how right you are, also on this side of the pond: kebab
vendors here in Italy use many meats but the majority is now using poultry.
I once happend to see the cook bringing in a new skewer so I got tosee the
thing as it is: totally yellow apart from some spot here and there, and that
means *almost all skin*. Sheesh, that was the last time I entered a poultry
kebab shop for 3 good years. Then this summer I found another shop which
uses poultry and their skewers were for the most part lean meat, so I go
there now and then, other poultry kebab vendors are all marked with a "NO
NO"

"ViLco" > wrote in message
...
>A Moose in Love wrote:
>
>> I don't buy ground poultry. I suspect that they may grind in the
>> skin, and perhaps too much fat. etc. If you grind it yourself, and
>> put in the lean stuff, different story.
>
> You can not know how right you are, also on this side of the pond: kebab
> vendors here in Italy use many meats but the majority is now using
> poultry. I once happend to see the cook bringing in a new skewer so I got
> tosee the thing as it is: totally yellow apart from some spot here and
> there, and that means *almost all skin*. Sheesh, that was the last time I
> entered a poultry kebab shop for 3 good years. Then this summer I found
> another shop which uses poultry and their skewers were for the most part
> lean meat, so I go there now and then, other poultry kebab vendors are all
> marked with a "NO NO"

I don't like ground poultry at all.

Judy Haffner wrote:

> Now that we're more conscious of our diet, I've been using ground
> turkey, instead of beef, and makes a excellent sandwich.

Try buying local grass-fed beef instead.

-S-

Steve Freides wrote:

>Try buying local grass-fed beef instead.

They don't raise cattle near where I live. Whatever will I do?

George M. Middius wrote:
> Steve Freides wrote:
>
>>Try buying local grass-fed beef instead.
>
> They don't raise cattle near where I live. Whatever will I do?

Well, bugs are everywhere s that's always an option. I figure the
better choice would be the remote grass-fed beef though. ;^)

George M. Middius wrote:
> Steve Freides wrote:
>
>> Try buying local grass-fed beef instead.
>
> They don't raise cattle near where I live. Whatever will I do?

I dunno, buy not local, grass-fed beef - how about that?

-S-

Steve Freides wrote:

>>> Try buying local grass-fed beef instead.
>>
>> They don't raise cattle near where I live. Whatever will I do?
>
>I dunno, buy not local, grass-fed beef - how about that?

Oooh! You cut the Gordian knot. Well done!

George M. Middius wrote:
> Steve Freides wrote:
>
>>>> Try buying local grass-fed beef instead.
>>>
>>> They don't raise cattle near where I live. Whatever will I do?
>>
>> I dunno, buy not local, grass-fed beef - how about that?
>
> Oooh! You cut the Gordian knot. Well done!

Got any other tough problems you need help with?

-S-

Steve Freides wrote:

>>>>> Try buying local grass-fed beef instead.
>>>>
>>>> They don't raise cattle near where I live. Whatever will I do?
>>>
>>> I dunno, buy not local, grass-fed beef - how about that?
>>
>> Oooh! You cut the Gordian knot. Well done!
>
>Got any other tough problems you need help with?

The sqwertie problem comes to mind. Got a plan for that one?

George M Middius wrote:
> Steve Freides wrote:
>
>>>>>> Try buying local grass-fed beef instead.
>>>>>
>>>>> They don't raise cattle near where I live. Whatever will I do?
>>>>
>>>> I dunno, buy not local, grass-fed beef - how about that?
>>>
>>> Oooh! You cut the Gordian knot. Well done!
>>
>>Got any other tough problems you need help with?
>
> The sqwertie problem comes to mind. Got a plan for that one?

rhymes with "swillpile"

George M. Middius wrote:
> Steve Freides wrote:
>
>>>>>> Try buying local grass-fed beef instead.
>>>>>
>>>>> They don't raise cattle near where I live. Whatever will I do?
>>>>
>>>> I dunno, buy not local, grass-fed beef - how about that?
>>>
>>> Oooh! You cut the Gordian knot. Well done!
>>
>> Got any other tough problems you need help with?
>
> The sqwertie problem comes to mind. Got a plan for that one?

I don't find him a problem, but if you do, consult your newsreader's
instructions.

-S-

On Mar 9, 4:13*am, "Julie Bove" > wrote:
> "ViLco" > wrote in message
>
> ...
>
> >A Moose in Love wrote:
>
> >> I don't buy ground poultry. *I suspect that they may grind in the
> >> skin, and perhaps too much fat. etc. *If you grind it yourself, and
> >> put in the lean stuff, different story.
>
> > You can not know how right you are, also on this side of the pond: kebab
> > vendors here in Italy use many meats but the majority is now using
> > poultry. I once happend to see the cook bringing in a new skewer so I got
> > tosee the thing as it is: totally yellow apart from some spot here and
> > there, and that means *almost all skin*. Sheesh, that was the last time I
> > entered a poultry kebab shop for 3 good years. Then this summer I found
> > another shop which uses poultry and their skewers were for the most part
> > lean meat, so I go there now and then, other poultry kebab vendors are all
> > marked with a "NO NO"
>
> I don't like ground poultry at all.

I don't much either. I have food processed skinless chicken breast
because my son prefers chicken to beef for tacos, but I don't like it
much, and the cleanup is a bear. Personally, I'd rather have 100%
chicken skin than skinless breast meat.

--Bryan

On Thu, 08 Mar 2012 23:15:37 GMT, "I'm back on the laptop"
> wrote:

(Judy Haffner) wrote in news:21768-4F59155D-161
:
>
>>
>> I know some call them by other names,
>
>
>
>I like sloppy joes, especially during the colder weather. I prefer the
>darker coloured ones though, and try to stay away from the greys.
nice euphemism there swallows. "sloppy joes" hey? lol

Bryan wrote:

>I have food processed skinless chicken
> breast because my son prefers chicken
> to beef for tacos, but I don't like it much,
> and the cleanup is a bear. Personally,
> I'd rather have 100% chicken skin than
> skinless breast meat.

My newsreader hiccoughed yesterday about noon, and no new posts starting
showing up until this morning, so have missed a lot of the posts, as
they just plain are not here! (Boo! Hiss!)

My hubby isn't fond of ground, or chopped turkey, but our one daughter
has been on a diet, so now instead of using beef in tacos, or sloppy
joes, I've been using turkey, or chicken, and we really like it. He
grumbles, but I notice he still eats it and doesn't complain after!

This is what I use now for the sloppy joes and we think it's better than
any of the beef ones we've had over the years.

Turkey Sloppy Joes

1 lb. ground turkey breast
1 small onion, chopped
1/2 cup chopped celery
1/4 cup chopped green pepper
1 can Healthy Request tomato soup
1/2 cup ketchup
1 tbsp. brown sugar
2 tbsp. prepared mustard
1/4 tsp. pepper

In a pan, coated with non-sticking cooking spray, cook turkey with
veggies until meat is no longer pink; drain, if necessary. Stir in
remaining ingredients and transfer to slow cooker, cover and cook on low
for 4 hours. Serve on buns. (I just simmer in the pan for a half hour,
or so, if I don't plan that far ahead). Serves 6. Each serving equals
247 calories, so not all that bad.

Judy

"Judy Haffner" > wrote in message
...
>
> I know some call them by other names, but to me ground meat in a tangy
> "tomatoey" sauce served in a hamburger bun, is a sloppy joe, and always
> been popular at our house.
>
> How do you make them at home (if you do)?
>
> Now that we're more conscious of our diet, I've been using ground
> turkey, instead of beef, and makes a excellent sandwich.
>
> Judy
>

Be careful with ground turkey. It's not always the healthier choice. Read
the label. Sometimes it contains ground turkey skin which negates what
people perceive to be lower fat and healthier.

Jill

Il 09/03/2012 11:13, Julie Bove ha scritto:

>> You can not know how right you are, also on this side of the pond: kebab
>> vendors here in Italy use many meats but the majority is now using
>> poultry. I once happend to see the cook bringing in a new skewer so I got
>> tosee the thing as it is: totally yellow apart from some spot here and
>> there, and that means *almost all skin*. Sheesh, that was the last time I
>> entered a poultry kebab shop for 3 good years. Then this summer I found
>> another shop which uses poultry and their skewers were for the most part
>> lean meat, so I go there now and then, other poultry kebab vendors are all
>> marked with a "NO NO"

> I don't like ground poultry at all.

I naver had it in all of may life, but I feel like I can perfectly live
without it
--
Vilco
And the Family Stone
Il peppindecs e' lo male