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Julie Bove[_2_] 23-03-2012 01:38 AM

Pre-shredded cheese (was: Kitchen gadgets you bought and never use?)
 

"John Kuthe" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 22 Mar 2012 15:53:56 -0700 (PDT), "
> > wrote:
>
>>On Mar 22, 1:58 pm, "Julie Bove" > wrote:
>>> "John Kuthe" > wrote in message
>>>
>>> ...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> > On Thu, 22 Mar 2012 12:24:24 -0700, "Malcom \"Mal\" Reynolds"
>>> > > wrote:
>>>
>>> >>In >,
>>> >> John Kuthe > wrote:
>>>
>>> >>> On Wed, 21 Mar 2012 22:45:49 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>> >>> > wrote:
>>> >>> ...
>>>
>>> >>> >I just buy pre-shedded chese.
>>>
>>> >>> Pre-shredded cheese is for 1) people that don't own and/or know how
>>> >>> to
>>> >>> work a cheese grater or 2) camping.
>>>
>>> >>> John Kuthe...
>>>
>>> >>this is yet another one of julies money saving tips, like how sliced
>>> >>apples are
>>> >>cheaper than whole apples
>>>
>>> >>It's also for people who like cellulose and/or gluten on their cheese,
>>> >>but
>>> >>that
>>> >>couldn't possibly be julie
>>>
>>> > Or very fine sand, or whatever it is that they put on shredded cheese
>>> > to keep it from clumping up and sticking together!!
>>>
>>> > I know it ain't cheese!
>>>
>>> > John Kuthe...
>>>
>>> They don't put anything on shredded cheese!

>>
>>
>>potato starch, corn starch, and calcium sulfate to prevent caking.

>
> Ding! Ding! Ding! We have a winner!!
>
> Damn! You mean I'm gonna have top get threee new bottles of "spices"
> to get my freshly grated cheddar to take just like the crappy
> pre-shredded crap?


I just looked it up. Sargento uses those ingredients. But the cheese I
have in my fridge is just plain cheese. Nothing added. And yes, it does
clump up and stick together. I do not usually buy the Sargento shredded.
Too expensive.



Julie Bove[_2_] 23-03-2012 01:38 AM

Pre-shredded cheese (was: Kitchen gadgets you bought and never use?)
 

"George M. Middius" > wrote in message
...
> wrote:
>
>>> They don't put anything on shredded cheese!

>
>>potato starch, corn starch, and calcium sulfate to prevent caking.

>
> I have a pouch right he potato starch, cornstarch, and powdered
> cellulose. That's not calcium sulfate; it's sawdust.


Is it Sargento?



Julie Bove[_2_] 23-03-2012 01:39 AM

Pre-shredded cheese (was: Kitchen gadgets you bought and never use?)
 

"John Kuthe" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 22 Mar 2012 19:26:49 -0400, George M. Middius
> > wrote:
>
wrote:
>>
>>>> They don't put anything on shredded cheese!

>>
>>>potato starch, corn starch, and calcium sulfate to prevent caking.

>>
>>I have a pouch right he potato starch, cornstarch, and powdered
>>cellulose. That's not calcium sulfate; it's sawdust.

>
>
> Don't tell Julie, she'll be crestfallen!
>
> John Kuthe...


My cheese doesn't contain that stuff.



Julie Bove[_2_] 23-03-2012 01:40 AM

Pre-shredded cheese (was: Kitchen gadgets you bought and never use?)
 

"Brooklyn1" <Gravesend1> wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 22 Mar 2012 15:55:15 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>"John Kuthe" > wrote in message
. ..
>>> On Thu, 22 Mar 2012 16:39:16 -0500, Bull > wrote:
>>>
>>>>In article >,
>>>> John Kuthe > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, 22 Mar 2012 13:58:08 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> >
>>>>> >"John Kuthe" > wrote in message
>>>>> .. .
>>>>> >> On Thu, 22 Mar 2012 12:24:24 -0700, "Malcom \"Mal\" Reynolds"
>>>>> >> > wrote:
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>>In article >,
>>>>> >>> John Kuthe > wrote:
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>> On Wed, 21 Mar 2012 22:45:49 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>>>> >>>> > wrote:
>>>>> >>>> ...
>>>>> >>>> >
>>>>> >>>> >I just buy pre-shedded chese.
>>>>> >>>> >
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>> Pre-shredded cheese is for 1) people that don't own and/or know
>>>>> >>>> how
>>>>> >>>> to
>>>>> >>>> work a cheese grater or 2) camping.
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>> John Kuthe...
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>this is yet another one of julies money saving tips, like how
>>>>> >>>sliced
>>>>> >>>apples are
>>>>> >>>cheaper than whole apples
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>It's also for people who like cellulose and/or gluten on their
>>>>> >>>cheese, but
>>>>> >>>that
>>>>> >>>couldn't possibly be julie
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Or very fine sand, or whatever it is that they put on shredded
>>>>> >> cheese
>>>>> >> to keep it from clumping up and sticking together!!
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> I know it ain't cheese!
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> John Kuthe...
>>>>> >
>>>>> >They don't put anything on shredded cheese!
>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>> How do they keep it from sticking together?
>>>>>
>>>>> John Kuthe...
>>>>
>>>>corn starch
>>>>
>>>>BULL
>>>
>>> There ya go! A little corn starch in your shredded cheese! YUM!
>>>
>>> Maybe I'll start adding some corn starch to my shredded cheddar after
>>> I shred some cheddar with my cheese grater to give it that stale
>>> preshredded prepackaged cheese flavor!
>>>
>>> Nahhhh! Just cheese for me, thank you very much.

>>
>>He's lying. It's just cheese.

>
> Actually Kraft shredded cheeses do contain natural anti-caking
> ingredients, doesn't say how much but probably a minimum amount... I
> will assume that all other brands of shredded cheese do the same.
> http://www.kraftrecipes.com/Products...t=210006338 2


Hmmm... I usually buy Hytop or the store brand. And that stuff clumps like
mad.



Julie Bove[_2_] 23-03-2012 01:41 AM

Pre-shredded cheese (was: Kitchen gadgets you bought and never use?)
 

"John Kuthe" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 22 Mar 2012 19:38:14 -0400, Brooklyn1 <Gravesend1> wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 22 Mar 2012 15:55:15 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"John Kuthe" > wrote in message
...
>>>> On Thu, 22 Mar 2012 16:39:16 -0500, Bull > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>In article >,
>>>>> John Kuthe > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, 22 Mar 2012 13:58:08 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >"John Kuthe" > wrote in message
>>>>>> .. .
>>>>>> >> On Thu, 22 Mar 2012 12:24:24 -0700, "Malcom \"Mal\" Reynolds"
>>>>>> >> > wrote:
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>>In article >,
>>>>>> >>> John Kuthe > wrote:
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>> On Wed, 21 Mar 2012 22:45:49 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>>>>> >>>> > wrote:
>>>>>> >>>> ...
>>>>>> >>>> >
>>>>>> >>>> >I just buy pre-shedded chese.
>>>>>> >>>> >
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> Pre-shredded cheese is for 1) people that don't own and/or know
>>>>>> >>>> how
>>>>>> >>>> to
>>>>>> >>>> work a cheese grater or 2) camping.
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> John Kuthe...
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>this is yet another one of julies money saving tips, like how
>>>>>> >>>sliced
>>>>>> >>>apples are
>>>>>> >>>cheaper than whole apples
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>It's also for people who like cellulose and/or gluten on their
>>>>>> >>>cheese, but
>>>>>> >>>that
>>>>>> >>>couldn't possibly be julie
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Or very fine sand, or whatever it is that they put on shredded
>>>>>> >> cheese
>>>>>> >> to keep it from clumping up and sticking together!!
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> I know it ain't cheese!
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> John Kuthe...
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >They don't put anything on shredded cheese!
>>>>>> >
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How do they keep it from sticking together?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> John Kuthe...
>>>>>
>>>>>corn starch
>>>>>
>>>>>BULL
>>>>
>>>> There ya go! A little corn starch in your shredded cheese! YUM!
>>>>
>>>> Maybe I'll start adding some corn starch to my shredded cheddar after
>>>> I shred some cheddar with my cheese grater to give it that stale
>>>> preshredded prepackaged cheese flavor!
>>>>
>>>> Nahhhh! Just cheese for me, thank you very much.
>>>
>>>He's lying. It's just cheese.

>>
>>Actually Kraft shredded cheeses do contain natural anti-caking
>>ingredients, doesn't say how much but probably a minimum amount... I
>>will assume that all other brands of shredded cheese do the same.
>>http://www.kraftrecipes.com/Products...t=210006338 2

>
> YEP:
>
> "POTATO STARCH, CELLULOSE POWDER, AND CALCIUM SULFATE ADDED TO PREVENT
> CAKING:
>
> Sorry Julie! A lot more there than "just cheese"!


Well, *my* cheese doesn't have that stuff.



Julie Bove[_2_] 23-03-2012 01:41 AM

Pre-shredded cheese (was: Kitchen gadgets you bought and never use?)
 

"Brooklyn1" <Gravesend1> wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 22 Mar 2012 18:42:05 -0500, John Kuthe >
> wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 22 Mar 2012 19:38:14 -0400, Brooklyn1 <Gravesend1> wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, 22 Mar 2012 15:55:15 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>"John Kuthe" > wrote in message
m...
>>>>> On Thu, 22 Mar 2012 16:39:16 -0500, Bull > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>In article >,
>>>>>> John Kuthe > wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, 22 Mar 2012 13:58:08 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >"John Kuthe" > wrote in message
>>>>>>> .. .
>>>>>>> >> On Thu, 22 Mar 2012 12:24:24 -0700, "Malcom \"Mal\" Reynolds"
>>>>>>> >> > wrote:
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >>>In article >,
>>>>>>> >>> John Kuthe > wrote:
>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>> >>>> On Wed, 21 Mar 2012 22:45:49 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>>>>>> >>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>> >>>> ...
>>>>>>> >>>> >
>>>>>>> >>>> >I just buy pre-shedded chese.
>>>>>>> >>>> >
>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>> >>>> Pre-shredded cheese is for 1) people that don't own and/or know
>>>>>>> >>>> how
>>>>>>> >>>> to
>>>>>>> >>>> work a cheese grater or 2) camping.
>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>> >>>> John Kuthe...
>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>> >>>this is yet another one of julies money saving tips, like how
>>>>>>> >>>sliced
>>>>>>> >>>apples are
>>>>>>> >>>cheaper than whole apples
>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>> >>>It's also for people who like cellulose and/or gluten on their
>>>>>>> >>>cheese, but
>>>>>>> >>>that
>>>>>>> >>>couldn't possibly be julie
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> Or very fine sand, or whatever it is that they put on shredded
>>>>>>> >> cheese
>>>>>>> >> to keep it from clumping up and sticking together!!
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> I know it ain't cheese!
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> John Kuthe...
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >They don't put anything on shredded cheese!
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> How do they keep it from sticking together?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> John Kuthe...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>corn starch
>>>>>>
>>>>>>BULL
>>>>>
>>>>> There ya go! A little corn starch in your shredded cheese! YUM!
>>>>>
>>>>> Maybe I'll start adding some corn starch to my shredded cheddar after
>>>>> I shred some cheddar with my cheese grater to give it that stale
>>>>> preshredded prepackaged cheese flavor!
>>>>>
>>>>> Nahhhh! Just cheese for me, thank you very much.
>>>>
>>>>He's lying. It's just cheese.
>>>
>>>Actually Kraft shredded cheeses do contain natural anti-caking
>>>ingredients, doesn't say how much but probably a minimum amount... I
>>>will assume that all other brands of shredded cheese do the same.
>>>http://www.kraftrecipes.com/Products...t=210006338 2

>>
>>YEP:
>>
>>"POTATO STARCH, CELLULOSE POWDER, AND CALCIUM SULFATE ADDED TO PREVENT
>>CAKING:
>>
>>Sorry Julie! A lot more there than "just cheese"!

>
> I wouldn't call that "A lot more". Many whole cheeses contain
> ingredients other than just milk, it's what gives them their
> individuality. I don't think anyone ever suffered any ill effects
> from ingesting a bit of potato starch, cellulose, or calcium sulfate,
> which is a very common chemical in foods that is used as a desiccant,
> it is also used as a coagulant in products like tofu. There are a lot
> more chemicals to be concerned with in a ham sandwhich.


They would if they had a potato allergy. But then if they did they would
likely read the ingredients.



George M. Middius[_2_] 23-03-2012 01:45 AM

Pre-shredded cheese (was: Kitchen gadgets you bought and never use?)
 
Julie Bove wrote:

>> I have a pouch right he potato starch, cornstarch, and powdered
>> cellulose. That's not calcium sulfate; it's sawdust.

>
>Is it Sargento?


Store brand.


Julie Bove[_2_] 23-03-2012 01:52 AM

Pre-shredded cheese (was: Kitchen gadgets you bought and never use?)
 

"George M. Middius" > wrote in message
...
> Julie Bove wrote:
>
>>> I have a pouch right he potato starch, cornstarch, and powdered
>>> cellulose. That's not calcium sulfate; it's sawdust.

>>
>>Is it Sargento?

>
> Store brand.


I just checked the ingredients on mine. I was wrong. Everyone hear that?
WRONG! Mine does contain the additives. I assumed it did not because it
certainly does clump up. I probably lose 1/8 of a cup per bag because it
sticks to it.



Janet Bostwick 23-03-2012 02:00 AM

Pre-shredded cheese (was: Kitchen gadgets you bought and never use?)
 
On Thu, 22 Mar 2012 21:25:24 -0400, Brooklyn1 <Gravesend1> wrote:

>On Thu, 22 Mar 2012 18:42:05 -0500, John Kuthe >
>wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 22 Mar 2012 19:38:14 -0400, Brooklyn1 <Gravesend1> wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, 22 Mar 2012 15:55:15 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>"John Kuthe" > wrote in message
m...
>>>>> On Thu, 22 Mar 2012 16:39:16 -0500, Bull > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>In article >,
>>>>>> John Kuthe > wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, 22 Mar 2012 13:58:08 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >"John Kuthe" > wrote in message
>>>>>>> .. .
>>>>>>> >> On Thu, 22 Mar 2012 12:24:24 -0700, "Malcom \"Mal\" Reynolds"
>>>>>>> >> > wrote:
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >>>In article >,
>>>>>>> >>> John Kuthe > wrote:
>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>> >>>> On Wed, 21 Mar 2012 22:45:49 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>>>>>> >>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>> >>>> ...
>>>>>>> >>>> >
>>>>>>> >>>> >I just buy pre-shedded chese.
>>>>>>> >>>> >
>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>> >>>> Pre-shredded cheese is for 1) people that don't own and/or know how
>>>>>>> >>>> to
>>>>>>> >>>> work a cheese grater or 2) camping.
>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>> >>>> John Kuthe...
>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>> >>>this is yet another one of julies money saving tips, like how sliced
>>>>>>> >>>apples are
>>>>>>> >>>cheaper than whole apples
>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>> >>>It's also for people who like cellulose and/or gluten on their
>>>>>>> >>>cheese, but
>>>>>>> >>>that
>>>>>>> >>>couldn't possibly be julie
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> Or very fine sand, or whatever it is that they put on shredded cheese
>>>>>>> >> to keep it from clumping up and sticking together!!
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> I know it ain't cheese!
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> John Kuthe...
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >They don't put anything on shredded cheese!
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> How do they keep it from sticking together?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> John Kuthe...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>corn starch
>>>>>>
>>>>>>BULL
>>>>>
>>>>> There ya go! A little corn starch in your shredded cheese! YUM!
>>>>>
>>>>> Maybe I'll start adding some corn starch to my shredded cheddar after
>>>>> I shred some cheddar with my cheese grater to give it that stale
>>>>> preshredded prepackaged cheese flavor!
>>>>>
>>>>> Nahhhh! Just cheese for me, thank you very much.
>>>>
>>>>He's lying. It's just cheese.
>>>
>>>Actually Kraft shredded cheeses do contain natural anti-caking
>>>ingredients, doesn't say how much but probably a minimum amount... I
>>>will assume that all other brands of shredded cheese do the same.
>>>http://www.kraftrecipes.com/Products...t=210006338 2

>>
>>YEP:
>>
>>"POTATO STARCH, CELLULOSE POWDER, AND CALCIUM SULFATE ADDED TO PREVENT
>>CAKING:
>>
>>Sorry Julie! A lot more there than "just cheese"!

>
>I wouldn't call that "A lot more". Many whole cheeses contain
>ingredients other than just milk, it's what gives them their
>individuality. I don't think anyone ever suffered any ill effects
>from ingesting a bit of potato starch, cellulose, or calcium sulfate,
>which is a very common chemical in foods that is used as a desiccant,
>it is also used as a coagulant in products like tofu. There are a lot
>more chemicals to be concerned with in a ham sandwhich.


I'm surprised that you aren't able to feel the starchy stuff in the
cheese when you sprinkle on things. I only tried pre-shredded cheese
once and I could feel the stuff.
Janet US

Julie Bove[_2_] 23-03-2012 02:00 AM

Kitchen gadgets you bought and never use?
 

"Kalmia" > wrote in message
...
On Mar 21, 7:04 pm, " > wrote:
> On Mar 21, 4:29 pm, ImStillMags > wrote:
>
> > We all have some.....don't we? I know I do. Here's a good little
> > article from the Times about those kitchen tools we buy and never use.

>
> >http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/21/di...ets-for-the-ki...

>
> > Two people talk about NOT using things many people use here on a
> > regular basis: a pressure cooker, and a Cuisinart.

>
> I use a food processor all the time. Why spend several minutes
> grating a block of cheese, let alone the wear and tear it does on your
> knuckles, when you can do it in seconds in a food processor?


I tried that a few times - it just made for a big mess to clean - the
cheese stuck all over the place and wasn't the 'shred' I can get from
my Mouli or plane graters. I tend to go non-electric when I can.
Must come from camping, boating days and a father who watched the
elec. bill closely.

I no longer have a Mouli. My first one was great but eventually it wore
out. The subsequent ones all had plastic parts that broke. I love the
plane graters. I think they work much better than the old box.



John Kuthe[_2_] 23-03-2012 02:31 AM

Pre-shredded cheese (was: Kitchen gadgets you bought and never use?)
 
On Thu, 22 Mar 2012 21:25:24 -0400, Brooklyn1 <Gravesend1> wrote:

>On Thu, 22 Mar 2012 18:42:05 -0500, John Kuthe >

....
>>YEP:
>>
>>"POTATO STARCH, CELLULOSE POWDER, AND CALCIUM SULFATE ADDED TO PREVENT
>>CAKING:
>>
>>Sorry Julie! A lot more there than "just cheese"!

>
>I wouldn't call that "A lot more". Many whole cheeses contain
>ingredients other than just milk, it's what gives them their
>individuality. I don't think anyone ever suffered any ill effects
>from ingesting a bit of potato starch, cellulose, or calcium sulfate,
>which is a very common chemical in foods that is used as a desiccant,
>it is also used as a coagulant in products like tofu. There are a lot
>more chemicals to be concerned with in a ham sandwhich.


3 additional ingredients other than cheese. Quantitatively
numerically, that means it's only 25% cheese! I call that a LOT of
other stuff! (now volumetrically, of course it's not a lot!)

;-)

John Kuthe...

John Kuthe[_2_] 23-03-2012 02:32 AM

Pre-shredded cheese (was: Kitchen gadgets you bought and never use?)
 
On Thu, 22 Mar 2012 20:00:06 -0600, Janet Bostwick
> wrote:
....
>
>I'm surprised that you aren't able to feel the starchy stuff in the
>cheese when you sprinkle on things. I only tried pre-shredded cheese
>once and I could feel the stuff.
>Janet US


Yep. it's like there's dust on the individual slivers of cheese. Yuck!

John Kuthe...

George M. Middius[_2_] 23-03-2012 02:59 AM

Pre-shredded cheese (was: Kitchen gadgets you bought and never use?)
 
Julie Bove wrote:

>I just checked the ingredients on mine. I was wrong. Everyone hear that?
>WRONG! Mine does contain the additives. I assumed it did not because it
>certainly does clump up. I probably lose 1/8 of a cup per bag because it
>sticks to it.


Next time, slice the bag open and scrape out the clingy shreds.



George M. Middius[_2_] 23-03-2012 03:00 AM

Pre-shredded cheese (was: Kitchen gadgets you bought and never use?)
 
John Kuthe wrote:

>3 additional ingredients other than cheese. Quantitatively
>numerically, that means it's only 25% cheese!


You say you aced some pro-qual exams? Hmm....



Julie Bove[_2_] 23-03-2012 03:43 AM

Pre-shredded cheese (was: Kitchen gadgets you bought and never use?)
 

"George M. Middius" > wrote in message
...
> Julie Bove wrote:
>
>>I just checked the ingredients on mine. I was wrong. Everyone hear that?
>>WRONG! Mine does contain the additives. I assumed it did not because it
>>certainly does clump up. I probably lose 1/8 of a cup per bag because it
>>sticks to it.

>
> Next time, slice the bag open and scrape out the clingy shreds.


Thanks!



jmcquown[_2_] 23-03-2012 06:51 AM

Pre-shredded cheese (was: Kitchen gadgets you bought and never use?)
 

"Brooklyn1" <Gravesend1> wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 22 Mar 2012 07:56:46 -0500, John Kuthe >
> wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 21 Mar 2012 22:45:49 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:
>>...
>>>
>>>I just buy pre-shedded chese.
>>>

>>
>>Pre-shredded cheese is for 1) people that don't own and/or know how to
>>work a cheese grater or 2) camping.

>
> Shredding cheese can be a bit messy, so why bother when one can buy
> pre-shredded and for less money... pre-shredded cheese typically costs
> less than blocks/sliced. I see huge bags of brand name shredded cheese
> of several types at the market. I don't use much shredded cheese but
> if I did I'd definitely buy it pre-shredded.



Ditto, especially for pizzas or tacos.

Jill


Julie Bove[_2_] 23-03-2012 06:53 AM

Pre-shredded cheese
 

"Sqwertz" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 22 Mar 2012 18:40:50 -0700, Julie Bove wrote:
>
>> "Brooklyn1" <Gravesend1> wrote in message
>>
>>> Actually Kraft shredded cheeses do contain natural anti-caking
>>> ingredients, doesn't say how much but probably a minimum amount... I
>>> will assume that all other brands of shredded cheese do the same.
>>> http://www.kraftrecipes.com/Products...t=210006338 2

>>
>> Hmmm... I usually buy Hytop or the store brand. And that stuff clumps
>> like
>> mad.

>
> That's probably because you're so stressed and squeezed the shit out
> of it without even knowing it.


Could be.



[email protected] 23-03-2012 08:01 AM

Pre-shredded cheese (was: Kitchen gadgets you bought andnever use?)
 
On Mar 22, 6:35*pm, "Julie Bove" > wrote:
> > wrote in message
>
> ...
> On Mar 22, 1:58 pm, "Julie Bove" > wrote:
>
>
>
> > "John Kuthe" > wrote in message

>
> .. .

>
> > > On Thu, 22 Mar 2012 12:24:24 -0700, "Malcom \"Mal\" Reynolds"
> > > > wrote:

>
> > >>In >,
> > >> John Kuthe > wrote:

>
> > >>> On Wed, 21 Mar 2012 22:45:49 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > >>> > wrote:
> > >>> ...

>
> > >>> >I just buy pre-shedded chese.

>
> > >>> Pre-shredded cheese is for 1) people that don't own and/or know how to
> > >>> work a cheese grater or 2) camping.

>
> > >>> John Kuthe...

>
> > >>this is yet another one of julies money saving tips, like how sliced
> > >>apples are
> > >>cheaper than whole apples

>
> > >>It's also for people who like cellulose and/or gluten on their cheese,
> > >>but
> > >>that
> > >>couldn't possibly be julie

>
> > > Or very fine sand, or whatever it is that they put on shredded cheese
> > > to keep it from clumping up and sticking together!!

>
> > > I know it ain't cheese!

>
> > > John Kuthe...

>
> > They don't put anything on shredded cheese!

>
> potato starch, corn starch, and calcium sulfate to prevent caking.
>
> Wrong! *I have shredded cheese in my fridge. *Only has cheese in it.


I am not wrong. I have two pouches in my fridge, and I copied it right
off the ingredients label.

Now, if you have some that does not include other ingredients, please
state the brand and type, and better yet, post a photo of the
ingredients label. I can post photos of mine if you don't believe me.

I can prove my claim. Can you?


[email protected] 23-03-2012 08:02 AM

Pre-shredded cheese (was: Kitchen gadgets you bought andnever use?)
 
On Mar 22, 6:38*pm, "Julie Bove" > wrote:
> "George M. Middius" > wrote in messagenews:78dnm7piq36frbkafsv373ts4jmiegj6q4@4ax .com...
>
> > wrote:

>
> >>> They don't put anything on shredded cheese!

>
> >>potato starch, corn starch, and calcium sulfate to prevent caking.

>
> > I have a pouch right he potato starch, cornstarch, and powdered
> > cellulose. That's not calcium sulfate; it's sawdust.

>
> Is it Sargento?


Nope.

What brand is yours?

[email protected] 23-03-2012 08:10 AM

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On Mar 22, 4:44*pm, Gorio > wrote:
> z z;1725898 Wrote:
>
>
>
> > I buy all my new appliances at the junk store here-usually young people
> > get them as gifts and then sell them on consignment-like new-then I
> > don't feel guilty about using something a few times and then putting it
> > away.

>
> > My hand mixer came with a stainless steel large wire egg whisk you
> > could
> > attach-that thing is great.

>
> > My pizza cutters are those plastic halfcircle sharp edged "rocking"
> > cutters-works great.

>
> > The "ChopStir" is great-I use it to break up a package of raw hamburger
> > after I put it in the pan, but its also fantastic to chop up salad
> > fixings in a bowl-for example I buy broccoli slaw but the strands are
> > too long so I use my ChopStir to cut them. I also use it on whole
> > pecans
> > in a bowl. Or on a plate for that matter. ChopStir is a new product,
> > great invention.

>
> Must be a lot of people with expresso machines they don't want. I find
> them for $5 all the time. I love the stuff I find in the junk store.
> Most of it isn't used at all. French presses are often easy deals ,
> too.
>


I love shopping at thrift stores for kitchen items. All of my crock
pots are from thrift stores. If I find an extra ceramic bowl for one,
I will buy it as I have dropped a few over the years. I have 3 sizes.
I've bought extra pots and pans, utensils, pyrex bowls, etc.

Ophelia[_7_] 23-03-2012 12:46 PM

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"Cheryl" > wrote in message
.com...

> Meat grinder was a good purchase but I rarely use ground meat so it
> doesn't get much use. Likewise the Vitamix because I never stuck with the
> green smoothie idea but use it occasionally for margaritas or similar.


My electric grinder also has great attachments for grating. I don't do meat
much but I do use the graters. I have several drums (um what do you call
the size of the various holes on a drum?) Making coleslaw is a breeze:)


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jmcquown[_2_] 23-03-2012 01:55 PM

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> wrote in message
...
> On Mar 22, 6:35 pm, "Julie Bove" > wrote:
>> > wrote in message
>>
>> ...
>> On Mar 22, 1:58 pm, "Julie Bove" > wrote:
>>
>> > They don't put anything on shredded cheese!

>>
>> potato starch, corn starch, and calcium sulfate to prevent caking.
>>
>> Wrong! I have shredded cheese in my fridge. Only has cheese in it.

>
> I am not wrong. I have two pouches in my fridge, and I copied it right
> off the ingredients label.
>
> Now, if you have some that does not include other ingredients, please
> state the brand and type, and better yet, post a photo of the
> ingredients label. I can post photos of mine if you don't believe me.
>
> I can prove my claim. Can you?
>


Now now... you're just screwing with her mind! My shredded "Mexican Style"
cheese contains monterey jack, cheddar, queso and asadero cheeses. Along
with potato starch and powdered cellulose to prevent caking, natamycin (a
natural mold inhibitor). The shredded mozzarella I have contains the same
added ingredients.

The fact is, if you want pure shredded cheese you have to buy a block of it
and use a cheese grater. I use pre-shredded cheese all the time for tacos.

Jill


jmcquown[_2_] 23-03-2012 02:04 PM

Kitchen gadgets you bought and never use?
 

"Kalmia" > wrote in message
...
> On Mar 21, 7:04 pm, " > wrote:
>> On Mar 21, 4:29 pm, ImStillMags > wrote:
>>
>> > We all have some.....don't we? I know I do. Here's a good little
>> > article from the Times about those kitchen tools we buy and never use.

>>
>> >http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/21/di...ets-for-the-ki...

>>
>> > Two people talk about NOT using things many people use here on a
>> > regular basis: a pressure cooker, and a Cuisinart.

>>
>> I use a food processor all the time. Why spend several minutes
>> grating a block of cheese, let alone the wear and tear it does on your
>> knuckles, when you can do it in seconds in a food processor?

>
> I tried that a few times - it just made for a big mess to clean - the
> cheese stuck all over the place and wasn't the 'shred' I can get from
> my Mouli or plane graters. I tend to go non-electric when I can.
> Must come from camping, boating days and a father who watched the
> elec. bill closely.



I also watch my electric bill closely :) I use my food processor when I
need to slice a lot of veggies to uniform size quickly. e.g. squash
casserole. Otherwise, it just sits in the pantry, mostly unused. It
certainly doesn't hold a predominant spot on my kitchen counter.

I've never used it to grate cheese. But depending on the cheese, I can see
how it might be difficult to clean the bowl and the blades. It would have
to be a very hard cheese to not make a mess. I don't own a pressure cooker
and don't plan to. Sorry, Om (wherever you are), I don't need my food to
cook that fast.

Jill


David Harmon[_2_] 23-03-2012 03:08 PM

Kitchen gadgets you bought and never use?
 
On Fri, 23 Mar 2012 10:04:30 -0400 in rec.food.cooking, "jmcquown"
> wrote,
>I also watch my electric bill closely :) I use my food processor when I
>need to slice a lot of veggies to uniform size quickly. e.g. squash
>casserole. Otherwise, it just sits in the pantry, mostly unused. It
>certainly doesn't hold a predominant spot on my kitchen counter.


If you made a point of using the food processor for everything it was
capable of doing, every day, as an experiment, how much would it add to
your electric bill in a month? I'm guessing probably a dime.

Doug Freyburger 23-03-2012 03:22 PM

Kitchen gadgets you bought and never use?
 
jmcquown wrote:
>
>I don't own a pressure cooker
> and don't plan to. Sorry, Om (wherever you are), I don't need my food to
> cook that fast.


Pressure cooker can be about flavor rather than speed. Pressure cooked
chicken is fabulous. Or it can be about softening. Pressure cooked
legumes are tender. Thinking about these two statements I should
probably try pressure cooking a stewing chicken. Hmmm.

Brooklyn1 23-03-2012 04:53 PM

Pre-shredded cheese (was: Kitchen gadgets you bought and never use?)
 
On Fri, 23 Mar 2012 09:55:25 -0400, "jmcquown" >
wrote:

>
> wrote in message
...
>> On Mar 22, 6:35 pm, "Julie Bove" > wrote:
>>> > wrote in message
>>>
>>> ...
>>> On Mar 22, 1:58 pm, "Julie Bove" > wrote:
>>>
>>> > They don't put anything on shredded cheese!
>>>
>>> potato starch, corn starch, and calcium sulfate to prevent caking.
>>>
>>> Wrong! I have shredded cheese in my fridge. Only has cheese in it.

>>
>> I am not wrong. I have two pouches in my fridge, and I copied it right
>> off the ingredients label.
>>
>> Now, if you have some that does not include other ingredients, please
>> state the brand and type, and better yet, post a photo of the
>> ingredients label. I can post photos of mine if you don't believe me.
>>
>> I can prove my claim. Can you?
>>

>
>Now now... you're just screwing with her mind! My shredded "Mexican Style"
>cheese contains monterey jack, cheddar, queso and asadero cheeses. Along
>with potato starch and powdered cellulose to prevent caking, natamycin (a
>natural mold inhibitor). The shredded mozzarella I have contains the same
>added ingredients.
>
>The fact is, if you want pure shredded cheese you have to buy a block of it
>and use a cheese grater. I use pre-shredded cheese all the time for tacos.
>
>Jill


Yesterday I found a Kraft shredded cheese web site and there at least
fifty different shredded cheeses listed, they were all *low moisture*
versions and contained starch and anti mold substance. I can't
remember the last time I bought shredded cheese, I always shred/cube
my own. I rarely need much anyway, typically a few ounces added to a
frozen pizza. On the rare occasion I need a lot of shredded cheese I
send a pound or two through my meat grinder using a large hole plate,
works perfectly. But for melting like into a cheese sauce I just dice
cheese, only takes two minutes to dice a pound and no mess.

Brooklyn1 23-03-2012 04:53 PM

Pre-shredded cheese (was: Kitchen gadgets you bought and never use?)
 
On Thu, 22 Mar 2012 18:38:29 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
>"John Kuthe" > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Thu, 22 Mar 2012 15:53:56 -0700 (PDT), "
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>On Mar 22, 1:58 pm, "Julie Bove" > wrote:
>>>> "John Kuthe" > wrote in message
>>>>
>>>> ...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> > On Thu, 22 Mar 2012 12:24:24 -0700, "Malcom \"Mal\" Reynolds"
>>>> > > wrote:
>>>>
>>>> >>In >,
>>>> >> John Kuthe > wrote:
>>>>
>>>> >>> On Wed, 21 Mar 2012 22:45:49 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>>> >>> > wrote:
>>>> >>> ...
>>>>
>>>> >>> >I just buy pre-shedded chese.
>>>>
>>>> >>> Pre-shredded cheese is for 1) people that don't own and/or know how
>>>> >>> to
>>>> >>> work a cheese grater or 2) camping.
>>>>
>>>> >>> John Kuthe...
>>>>
>>>> >>this is yet another one of julies money saving tips, like how sliced
>>>> >>apples are
>>>> >>cheaper than whole apples
>>>>
>>>> >>It's also for people who like cellulose and/or gluten on their cheese,
>>>> >>but
>>>> >>that
>>>> >>couldn't possibly be julie
>>>>
>>>> > Or very fine sand, or whatever it is that they put on shredded cheese
>>>> > to keep it from clumping up and sticking together!!
>>>>
>>>> > I know it ain't cheese!
>>>>
>>>> > John Kuthe...
>>>>
>>>> They don't put anything on shredded cheese!
>>>
>>>
>>>potato starch, corn starch, and calcium sulfate to prevent caking.

>>
>> Ding! Ding! Ding! We have a winner!!
>>
>> Damn! You mean I'm gonna have top get threee new bottles of "spices"
>> to get my freshly grated cheddar to take just like the crappy
>> pre-shredded crap?

>
>I just looked it up. Sargento uses those ingredients. But the cheese I
>have in my fridge is just plain cheese. Nothing added.


What brand is it?


Brooklyn1 23-03-2012 05:12 PM

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On Fri, 23 Mar 2012 02:51:58 -0400, "jmcquown" >
wrote:

>
>"Brooklyn1" <Gravesend1> wrote in message
.. .
>> On Thu, 22 Mar 2012 07:56:46 -0500, John Kuthe >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>On Wed, 21 Mar 2012 22:45:49 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:
>>>...
>>>>
>>>>I just buy pre-shedded chese.
>>>>
>>>
>>>Pre-shredded cheese is for 1) people that don't own and/or know how to
>>>work a cheese grater or 2) camping.

>>
>> Shredding cheese can be a bit messy, so why bother when one can buy
>> pre-shredded and for less money... pre-shredded cheese typically costs
>> less than blocks/sliced. I see huge bags of brand name shredded cheese
>> of several types at the market. I don't use much shredded cheese but
>> if I did I'd definitely buy it pre-shredded.

>
>
>Ditto, especially for pizzas or tacos.
>
>Jill


Yes, and if it contains a little starch so what, what do these people
think pizza crust is. Several foods are coated with starch, lots of
confections, so are some hams, peameal bacon, etc.

sf[_9_] 23-03-2012 05:16 PM

Kitchen gadgets you bought and never use?
 
On Fri, 23 Mar 2012 01:10:45 -0700 (PDT), "
> wrote:

> I love shopping at thrift stores for kitchen items. All of my crock
> pots are from thrift stores. If I find an extra ceramic bowl for one,
> I will buy it as I have dropped a few over the years. I have 3 sizes.
> I've bought extra pots and pans, utensils, pyrex bowls, etc.


I never see crock pots at thrift stores here and I've gone in looking
for them specifically. They're pretty sparse on Craig's List too. I
just searched and the *one* I saw where there's any chance it's still
available is $20 for a crockpot that sells for under $30 brand new.
Why would I get it from Craig's List when I can go to the store, buy
it brand new for significantly less than $10 more and have recourse if
there's a problem with it?

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

sf[_9_] 23-03-2012 05:20 PM

Kitchen gadgets you bought and never use?
 
On Fri, 23 Mar 2012 10:04:30 -0400, "jmcquown" >
wrote:

> I've never used it to grate cheese. But depending on the cheese, I can see
> how it might be difficult to clean the bowl and the blades. It would have
> to be a very hard cheese to not make a mess.


When I need to shred, say a pound of cheese when making (mac &
cheese), I use the food processor. IMO, it's not hard to clean up...
but then I don't understand all the whining about how it's so hard to
clean to begin with.

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

sf[_9_] 23-03-2012 05:23 PM

Kitchen gadgets you bought and never use?
 
On Fri, 23 Mar 2012 15:22:06 +0000 (UTC), Doug Freyburger
> wrote:

> Pressure cooked legumes are tender.


Too tender for me, so I do them the old fashioned way. The only time
I want them mushy is when I make soup and I have plenty of cooking
time when I make soup. I also think that pressure cooked items aren't
as flavorful as those that are cooked longer on the stove.


--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

Janet 23-03-2012 06:11 PM

Kitchen gadgets you bought and never use?
 
In article >,
says...
>
> On Fri, 23 Mar 2012 15:22:06 +0000 (UTC), Doug Freyburger
> > wrote:
>
> > Pressure cooked legumes are tender.

>
> Too tender for me, so I do them the old fashioned way. The only time
> I want them mushy is when I make soup and I have plenty of cooking
> time when I make soup. I also think that pressure cooked items aren't
> as flavorful as those that are cooked longer on the stove.


We use the pc for steamed and boiled puddings (like Christmas pudding)

Janet

S Viemeister[_2_] 23-03-2012 06:35 PM

Kitchen gadgets you bought and never use?
 
On 3/23/2012 2:11 PM, Janet wrote:
> In >,
> says...
>>
>> On Fri, 23 Mar 2012 15:22:06 +0000 (UTC), Doug Freyburger
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Pressure cooked legumes are tender.

>>
>> Too tender for me, so I do them the old fashioned way. The only time
>> I want them mushy is when I make soup and I have plenty of cooking
>> time when I make soup. I also think that pressure cooked items aren't
>> as flavorful as those that are cooked longer on the stove.

>
> We use the pc for steamed and boiled puddings (like Christmas pudding)
>

What a good idea! I'd never considered that.


S Viemeister[_2_] 23-03-2012 06:36 PM

Kitchen gadgets you bought and never use?
 
On 3/23/2012 1:20 PM, sf wrote:
> On Fri, 23 Mar 2012 10:04:30 -0400, >
> wrote:
>
>> I've never used it to grate cheese. But depending on the cheese, I can see
>> how it might be difficult to clean the bowl and the blades. It would have
>> to be a very hard cheese to not make a mess.

>
> When I need to shred, say a pound of cheese when making (mac&
> cheese), I use the food processor. IMO, it's not hard to clean up...
> but then I don't understand all the whining about how it's so hard to
> clean to begin with.
>

I just stick it in the dishwasher with the dinner plates.

Goomba[_2_] 23-03-2012 06:51 PM

Kitchen gadgets you bought and never use?
 
On 3/23/12 10:04 AM, jmcquown wrote:

> I've never used it to grate cheese. But depending on the cheese, I can
> see how it might be difficult to clean the bowl and the blades. It would
> have to be a very hard cheese to not make a mess. I don't own a pressure
> cooker and don't plan to. Sorry, Om (wherever you are), I don't need my
> food to cook that fast.
>
> Jill


Food processors work great for cheese. I grate all types of cold cheese
and never have a problem with clean up. I put the bowl and blade into
the dishwasher also.

John Kuthe[_2_] 23-03-2012 07:58 PM

Pre-shredded cheese
 
On Thu, 22 Mar 2012 08:40:03 -0700 (PDT), Bryan ...
>
>But you need Mr. Kuthe to save you from the eternal damnation of "The
>Fat Beast,"
>Glycerol Tricaproate.
>"Let him that hath understanding..."
>
>--Bryan


More of your fancy expensive designer dietary supplements? Feh!

Glad you have your wife's paycheck to buy you all these "toys"! Let us
all know how your study of ONE comes out, after 20 years of this
study, OK? AND track your costs to the penny of this obsession.

John Kuthe...

sf[_9_] 23-03-2012 09:38 PM

Kitchen gadgets you bought and never use?
 
On Fri, 23 Mar 2012 14:35:58 -0400, S Viemeister
> wrote:

> On 3/23/2012 2:11 PM, Janet wrote:
> > In >,
> > says...
> >>
> >> On Fri, 23 Mar 2012 15:22:06 +0000 (UTC), Doug Freyburger
> >> > wrote:
> >>
> >>> Pressure cooked legumes are tender.
> >>
> >> Too tender for me, so I do them the old fashioned way. The only time
> >> I want them mushy is when I make soup and I have plenty of cooking
> >> time when I make soup. I also think that pressure cooked items aren't
> >> as flavorful as those that are cooked longer on the stove.

> >
> > We use the pc for steamed and boiled puddings (like Christmas pudding)
> >

> What a good idea! I'd never considered that.


Me either. I wonder if Google has? Yep!
http://h2g2.com/dna/h2g2/A660836

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

sf[_9_] 23-03-2012 09:42 PM

Kitchen gadgets you bought and never use?
 
On Fri, 23 Mar 2012 14:36:46 -0400, S Viemeister
> wrote:

> On 3/23/2012 1:20 PM, sf wrote:
> > On Fri, 23 Mar 2012 10:04:30 -0400, >
> > wrote:
> >
> >> I've never used it to grate cheese. But depending on the cheese, I can see
> >> how it might be difficult to clean the bowl and the blades. It would have
> >> to be a very hard cheese to not make a mess.

> >
> > When I need to shred, say a pound of cheese when making (mac&
> > cheese), I use the food processor. IMO, it's not hard to clean up...
> > but then I don't understand all the whining about how it's so hard to
> > clean to begin with.
> >

> I just stick it in the dishwasher with the dinner plates.


I only do it if I see something grody growing in a place I can't
reach, like where the spring is housed (or if I have dishwasher space
that I want to take up so I can run it with a clear conscience).

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

Ophelia[_7_] 23-03-2012 10:50 PM

Kitchen gadgets you bought and never use?
 

"sf" > wrote in message
...

>> > We use the pc for steamed and boiled puddings (like Christmas
>> > pudding)
>> >

>> What a good idea! I'd never considered that.


My Aunt did that years ago:)) I inherited her pc and she died the day Diana
married Charles, so how many years ago was that??



--
http://www.shop.helpforheroes.org.uk/


Bryan[_6_] 23-03-2012 10:55 PM

Pre-shredded cheese
 
On Mar 23, 2:58*pm, John Kuthe > wrote:
> On Thu, 22 Mar 2012 08:40:03 -0700 (PDT), Bryan ...
>
>
>
> >But you need Mr. Kuthe to save you from the eternal damnation of "The
> >Fat Beast,"
> >Glycerol Tricaproate.
> >"Let him that hath understanding..."

>
> >--Bryan

>
> More of your fancy expensive designer dietary supplements? Feh!
>

More like a riddle.
>
> John Kuthe...


--Bryan


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