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Janet > writes:

> As for my battery driven stainless steel push-button pepper grinder
> WITH LIGHT; I use it all the time and love it :-) Every cook should
> have one IMO.


I haven't yet gotten to the point of RSI from pepper-grinding, but the
idea of a powered grinder IS rather attractive.
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notbob wrote:
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> On 2012-03-22, Gary > wrote:
>
> > I was about to say for pizza too. That's all I use and I keep a bag in the
> > freezer for when the time comes. I'm talking about the mozzarella

>
> Doesn't that ruin the cheese? It's been my experience that freezing
> good cheese makes it inedible ....at least to me.


I only use for pizza and I've never noticed a difference at all, as George
said too. Most times, I'll buy it fresh and use it when I'm in the mood to
make a pizza. Many times though, I'll have all the ingredients handy exept
the cheese so I now always keep a bag in the freezer. No noticable
difference to me.

I'm not suggesting freezing any other cheese...just the mozz for a pizza

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On Thu, 22 Mar 2012 11:32:08 -0500, David Dyer-Bennet >
wrote:

>Janet > writes:
>
>> As for my battery driven stainless steel push-button pepper grinder
>> WITH LIGHT; I use it all the time and love it :-) Every cook should
>> have one IMO.

>
>I haven't yet gotten to the point of RSI from pepper-grinding, but the
>idea of a powered grinder IS rather attractive.


BAH!! Unless you're physically disabled, if you can't crank a hand
crank pepper mill you don't deserve freshly ground pepper!

;-)

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John Kuthe > writes:

> On Thu, 22 Mar 2012 11:32:08 -0500, David Dyer-Bennet >
> wrote:
>
>>Janet > writes:
>>
>>> As for my battery driven stainless steel push-button pepper grinder
>>> WITH LIGHT; I use it all the time and love it :-) Every cook should
>>> have one IMO.

>>
>>I haven't yet gotten to the point of RSI from pepper-grinding, but the
>>idea of a powered grinder IS rather attractive.

>
> BAH!! Unless you're physically disabled, if you can't crank a hand
> crank pepper mill you don't deserve freshly ground pepper!
>
> ;-)


Well, the one with an actual crank, which was bloody expensive, broke
pretty quick. So I've got entirely ones where you twist one part
relative to the other, and those are a bit more stressful on the
wrists.

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On Thu, 22 Mar 2012 07:56:46 -0500, John Kuthe >
wrote:

>On Wed, 21 Mar 2012 22:45:49 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:
>...
>>
>>I just buy pre-shedded chese.
>>

>
>Pre-shredded cheese is for 1) people that don't own and/or know how to
>work a cheese grater or 2) camping.


Shredding cheese can be a bit messy, so why bother when one can buy
pre-shredded and for less money... pre-shredded cheese typically costs
less than blocks/sliced. I see huge bags of brand name shredded cheese
of several types at the market. I don't use much shredded cheese but
if I did I'd definitely buy it pre-shredded.


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On Thu, 22 Mar 2012 09:27:42 -0400, George M. Middius
> wrote:

>John Kuthe wrote:
>
>>Pre-shredded cheese is for 1) people that don't own and/or know how to
>>work a cheese grater or 2) camping.

>
>I use it for pizza and tacos. With all those spices, nobody I know can
>tell the difference.


Couldn't tell the difference once melted regardless with what or with
nothing at all.
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On Thu, 22 Mar 2012 12:27:38 -0400, George M. Middius
> wrote:

>notbob wrote:
>
>>> I was about to say for pizza too. That's all I use and I keep a bag in the
>>> freezer for when the time comes. I'm talking about the mozzarella

>>
>>Doesn't that ruin the cheese? It's been my experience that freezing
>>good cheese makes it inedible ....at least to me.

>
>I agree, but we're talking about factory mozz, not "good cheese". It
>survives the freezer just fine.


If used melted matters not a whit.
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In article >,
John Kuthe > wrote:

> On Wed, 21 Mar 2012 22:45:49 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
> ...
> >
> >I just buy pre-shedded chese.
> >

>
> Pre-shredded cheese is for 1) people that don't own and/or know how to
> work a cheese grater or 2) camping.
>
> John Kuthe...


this is yet another one of julies money saving tips, like how sliced apples are
cheaper than whole apples


It's also for people who like cellulose and/or gluten on their cheese, but that
couldn't possibly be julie
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On Thu, 22 Mar 2012 12:24:24 -0700, "Malcom \"Mal\" Reynolds"
> wrote:

>In article >,
> John Kuthe > wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 21 Mar 2012 22:45:49 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>> > wrote:
>> ...
>> >
>> >I just buy pre-shedded chese.
>> >

>>
>> Pre-shredded cheese is for 1) people that don't own and/or know how to
>> work a cheese grater or 2) camping.
>>
>> John Kuthe...

>
>this is yet another one of julies money saving tips, like how sliced apples are
>cheaper than whole apples
>
>
>It's also for people who like cellulose and/or gluten on their cheese, but that
>couldn't possibly be julie


Or very fine sand, or whatever it is that they put on shredded cheese
to keep it from clumping up and sticking together!!

I know it ain't cheese!

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On Mar 21, 9:49*pm, Sqwertz > wrote:
> On Wed, 21 Mar 2012 16:57:58 -0700 (PDT), Kalmia wrote:
> > I do have a very small mortar and pestle I always forget about.
> > That's about it.

>
> I use my little mortar and pestle for grinding up salt, cumin, mustard
> seed, pepper, or fresh garlic or Thai bird chiles for paste a couple
> times a week. *I didn't use it until 5-6 years after I bought it, but
> it's so much quicker and easier than dragging out the coffee grinder
> or garlic press, and easier to clean than both of those.
>
> -sw


Yeah, but I find the coffee grinder to be faster, get a finer product,
and I only give it a damp swipe as far as cleaning it. I guess I
should remember to use the mortar when I want to mash garlic and
butter.....or maybe just give it to the thrift store.


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I forgot....I have a few of those cups out of which one may spoon a
perfect 2 and a half minute egg - which I can't seem to achieve. I
doubt it the cups are good for much else.
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On Mar 21, 6:30*pm, "Julie Bove" > wrote:
> spamtrap1888 wrote:
> > On Mar 21, 1:29 pm, ImStillMags > wrote:
> >> We all have some.....don't we? I know I do. Here's a good little
> >> article from the Times about those kitchen tools we buy and never
> >> use.

>
> >>http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/21/di...ets-for-the-ki....

>
> >> Two people talk about NOT using things many people use here on a
> >> regular basis: a pressure cooker, and a Cuisinart.

>
> > Our molcajete works great for pounding roots and seeds for curry, and
> > it is a lot easier to clean up than a food processor or even a
> > blender.

>
> > The thing that never comes out of the cupboards is our cookie gun. We
> > even use the ice cream maker at least once a year.

>
> I never use my cookie press any more. *Used to only use it around Christmas
> time. *Got rid of my ice cream maker. *Also got rid of the beverage chiller.
> Never used it. *The ice cream maker was a joke. *The part you had to put in
> the freezer took up sooo much room! *And the amount of ice cream it made was
> only enough for my husband and daughter.


I borrowed an non-electric ice cream maker for a while - exactly mu
findings. It hogged my freezer and didn't make very much. A Donvier,
I think it was. I have been tempted to try other kinds of makers
since then, but my arteries protested.
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On Mar 22, 12:41*pm, John Kuthe > wrote:
> On Thu, 22 Mar 2012 11:32:08 -0500, David Dyer-Bennet >
> wrote:
>
> >Janet > writes:

>
> >> As for my battery driven stainless steel push-button pepper grinder
> >> WITH LIGHT; I use it all the time and love it :-) Every cook should
> >> have one IMO.

>
> >I haven't yet gotten to the point of RSI from pepper-grinding, but the
> >idea of a powered grinder IS rather attractive.

>
> BAH!! Unless you're physically disabled, if you can't crank a hand
> crank pepper mill you don't deserve freshly ground pepper!



Not to mention....one more thing to buy batteries for. I like my
manual pepper mill.
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On Mar 21, 7:04*pm, " > wrote:
> On Mar 21, 4:29*pm, ImStillMags > wrote:
>
> > We all have some.....don't we? * I know I do. * *Here's a good little
> > article from the Times about those kitchen tools we buy and never use.

>
> >http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/21/di...ets-for-the-ki...

>
> > Two people talk about NOT using things many people use here on a
> > regular basis: * a pressure cooker, and a Cuisinart.

>
> I use a food processor all the time. *Why spend several minutes
> grating a block of cheese, let alone the wear and tear it does on your
> knuckles, *when you can do it in seconds in a food processor?


I tried that a few times - it just made for a big mess to clean - the
cheese stuck all over the place and wasn't the 'shred' I can get from
my Mouli or plane graters. I tend to go non-electric when I can.
Must come from camping, boating days and a father who watched the
elec. bill closely.
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"John Kuthe" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 22 Mar 2012 12:24:24 -0700, "Malcom \"Mal\" Reynolds"
> > wrote:
>
>>In article >,
>> John Kuthe > wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, 21 Mar 2012 22:45:49 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>> > wrote:
>>> ...
>>> >
>>> >I just buy pre-shedded chese.
>>> >
>>>
>>> Pre-shredded cheese is for 1) people that don't own and/or know how to
>>> work a cheese grater or 2) camping.
>>>
>>> John Kuthe...

>>
>>this is yet another one of julies money saving tips, like how sliced
>>apples are
>>cheaper than whole apples
>>
>>
>>It's also for people who like cellulose and/or gluten on their cheese, but
>>that
>>couldn't possibly be julie

>
> Or very fine sand, or whatever it is that they put on shredded cheese
> to keep it from clumping up and sticking together!!
>
> I know it ain't cheese!
>
> John Kuthe...


They don't put anything on shredded cheese!




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"Sqwertz" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 21 Mar 2012 22:42:19 -0700, Julie Bove wrote:
>
>> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Wed, 21 Mar 2012 15:30:12 -0700, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>>> The ice cream maker was a joke. The part you had to put in
>>>> the freezer took up sooo much room! And the amount of ice cream it
>>>> made
>>>> was
>>>> only enough for my husband and daughter.
>>>
>>> Doesn't your husband have a dedicated half gallon ice cream bowl that
>>> he fills to the brim when he eats ice cream?

>>
>> I refuse to buy large packages of ice cream. I generally only buy the
>> single serve ones but sometimes in mass quantity. Once in a while I will
>> buy a pint. But never any larger container. That just leads to
>> overeating.
>> Not by me. I don't eat ice cream. And yes, it is possible to overeat on
>> the single serves.

>
> That doesn't answer the question. Somebody here a husband that firts
> the above description. Since you're always mentioning him, I figured
> it was you.


He eats a lot of ice cream but not like that.


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On Thu, 22 Mar 2012 13:58:08 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
>"John Kuthe" > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Thu, 22 Mar 2012 12:24:24 -0700, "Malcom \"Mal\" Reynolds"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>In article >,
>>> John Kuthe > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Wed, 21 Mar 2012 22:45:49 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>>> > wrote:
>>>> ...
>>>> >
>>>> >I just buy pre-shedded chese.
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>> Pre-shredded cheese is for 1) people that don't own and/or know how to
>>>> work a cheese grater or 2) camping.
>>>>
>>>> John Kuthe...
>>>
>>>this is yet another one of julies money saving tips, like how sliced
>>>apples are
>>>cheaper than whole apples
>>>
>>>
>>>It's also for people who like cellulose and/or gluten on their cheese, but
>>>that
>>>couldn't possibly be julie

>>
>> Or very fine sand, or whatever it is that they put on shredded cheese
>> to keep it from clumping up and sticking together!!
>>
>> I know it ain't cheese!
>>
>> John Kuthe...

>
>They don't put anything on shredded cheese!
>


How do they keep it from sticking together?

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John Kuthe wrote:

>How do they keep it from sticking together?


Maybe they aerate it after shredding. Dries out the skin, you know.

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On Thu, 22 Mar 2012 16:39:16 -0500, Bull > wrote:

>In article >,
> John Kuthe > wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 22 Mar 2012 13:58:08 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >"John Kuthe" > wrote in message
>> .. .
>> >> On Thu, 22 Mar 2012 12:24:24 -0700, "Malcom \"Mal\" Reynolds"
>> >> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>In article >,
>> >>> John Kuthe > wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> On Wed, 21 Mar 2012 22:45:49 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>> >>>> > wrote:
>> >>>> ...
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >I just buy pre-shedded chese.
>> >>>> >
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Pre-shredded cheese is for 1) people that don't own and/or know how to
>> >>>> work a cheese grater or 2) camping.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> John Kuthe...
>> >>>
>> >>>this is yet another one of julies money saving tips, like how sliced
>> >>>apples are
>> >>>cheaper than whole apples
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>It's also for people who like cellulose and/or gluten on their cheese, but
>> >>>that
>> >>>couldn't possibly be julie
>> >>
>> >> Or very fine sand, or whatever it is that they put on shredded cheese
>> >> to keep it from clumping up and sticking together!!
>> >>
>> >> I know it ain't cheese!
>> >>
>> >> John Kuthe...
>> >
>> >They don't put anything on shredded cheese!
>> >

>>
>> How do they keep it from sticking together?
>>
>> John Kuthe...

>
>corn starch
>
>BULL


There ya go! A little corn starch in your shredded cheese! YUM!

Maybe I'll start adding some corn starch to my shredded cheddar after
I shred some cheddar with my cheese grater to give it that stale
preshredded prepackaged cheese flavor!

Nahhhh! Just cheese for me, thank you very much.

John Kuthe...
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On Mar 22, 1:58*pm, "Julie Bove" > wrote:
> "John Kuthe" > wrote in message
>
> ...
>
>
>
> > On Thu, 22 Mar 2012 12:24:24 -0700, "Malcom \"Mal\" Reynolds"
> > > wrote:

>
> >>In >,
> >> John Kuthe > wrote:

>
> >>> On Wed, 21 Mar 2012 22:45:49 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> >>> > wrote:
> >>> ...

>
> >>> >I just buy pre-shedded chese.

>
> >>> Pre-shredded cheese is for 1) people that don't own and/or know how to
> >>> work a cheese grater or 2) camping.

>
> >>> John Kuthe...

>
> >>this is yet another one of julies money saving tips, like how sliced
> >>apples are
> >>cheaper than whole apples

>
> >>It's also for people who like cellulose and/or gluten on their cheese, but
> >>that
> >>couldn't possibly be julie

>
> > Or very fine sand, or whatever it is that they put on shredded cheese
> > to keep it from clumping up and sticking together!!

>
> > I know it ain't cheese!

>
> > John Kuthe...

>
> They don't put anything on shredded cheese!



potato starch, corn starch, and calcium sulfate to prevent caking.



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"John Kuthe" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 22 Mar 2012 13:58:08 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>"John Kuthe" > wrote in message
. ..
>>> On Thu, 22 Mar 2012 12:24:24 -0700, "Malcom \"Mal\" Reynolds"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>In article >,
>>>> John Kuthe > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, 21 Mar 2012 22:45:49 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>> ...
>>>>> >
>>>>> >I just buy pre-shedded chese.
>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>> Pre-shredded cheese is for 1) people that don't own and/or know how to
>>>>> work a cheese grater or 2) camping.
>>>>>
>>>>> John Kuthe...
>>>>
>>>>this is yet another one of julies money saving tips, like how sliced
>>>>apples are
>>>>cheaper than whole apples
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>It's also for people who like cellulose and/or gluten on their cheese,
>>>>but
>>>>that
>>>>couldn't possibly be julie
>>>
>>> Or very fine sand, or whatever it is that they put on shredded cheese
>>> to keep it from clumping up and sticking together!!
>>>
>>> I know it ain't cheese!
>>>
>>> John Kuthe...

>>
>>They don't put anything on shredded cheese!
>>

>
> How do they keep it from sticking together?


They don't. It can and will stick together. Does that matter? No.


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"Bull" > wrote in message
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> In article >,
> John Kuthe > wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 22 Mar 2012 13:58:08 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >"John Kuthe" > wrote in message
>> .. .
>> >> On Thu, 22 Mar 2012 12:24:24 -0700, "Malcom \"Mal\" Reynolds"
>> >> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>In article >,
>> >>> John Kuthe > wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> On Wed, 21 Mar 2012 22:45:49 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>> >>>> > wrote:
>> >>>> ...
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >I just buy pre-shedded chese.
>> >>>> >
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Pre-shredded cheese is for 1) people that don't own and/or know how
>> >>>> to
>> >>>> work a cheese grater or 2) camping.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> John Kuthe...
>> >>>
>> >>>this is yet another one of julies money saving tips, like how sliced
>> >>>apples are
>> >>>cheaper than whole apples
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>It's also for people who like cellulose and/or gluten on their cheese,
>> >>>but
>> >>>that
>> >>>couldn't possibly be julie
>> >>
>> >> Or very fine sand, or whatever it is that they put on shredded cheese
>> >> to keep it from clumping up and sticking together!!
>> >>
>> >> I know it ain't cheese!
>> >>
>> >> John Kuthe...
>> >
>> >They don't put anything on shredded cheese!
>> >

>>
>> How do they keep it from sticking together?
>>
>> John Kuthe...

>
> corn starch
>
> BULL


Wrong! They have to label all ingredients. They do not add anything to
cheese.


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"John Kuthe" > wrote in message
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> On Thu, 22 Mar 2012 16:39:16 -0500, Bull > wrote:
>
>>In article >,
>> John Kuthe > wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 22 Mar 2012 13:58:08 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>> >
>>> >"John Kuthe" > wrote in message
>>> .. .
>>> >> On Thu, 22 Mar 2012 12:24:24 -0700, "Malcom \"Mal\" Reynolds"
>>> >> > wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>>In article >,
>>> >>> John Kuthe > wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>>> On Wed, 21 Mar 2012 22:45:49 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>> >>>> > wrote:
>>> >>>> ...
>>> >>>> >
>>> >>>> >I just buy pre-shedded chese.
>>> >>>> >
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Pre-shredded cheese is for 1) people that don't own and/or know how
>>> >>>> to
>>> >>>> work a cheese grater or 2) camping.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> John Kuthe...
>>> >>>
>>> >>>this is yet another one of julies money saving tips, like how sliced
>>> >>>apples are
>>> >>>cheaper than whole apples
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>It's also for people who like cellulose and/or gluten on their
>>> >>>cheese, but
>>> >>>that
>>> >>>couldn't possibly be julie
>>> >>
>>> >> Or very fine sand, or whatever it is that they put on shredded cheese
>>> >> to keep it from clumping up and sticking together!!
>>> >>
>>> >> I know it ain't cheese!
>>> >>
>>> >> John Kuthe...
>>> >
>>> >They don't put anything on shredded cheese!
>>> >
>>>
>>> How do they keep it from sticking together?
>>>
>>> John Kuthe...

>>
>>corn starch
>>
>>BULL

>
> There ya go! A little corn starch in your shredded cheese! YUM!
>
> Maybe I'll start adding some corn starch to my shredded cheddar after
> I shred some cheddar with my cheese grater to give it that stale
> preshredded prepackaged cheese flavor!
>
> Nahhhh! Just cheese for me, thank you very much.


He's lying. It's just cheese.


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On Thu, 22 Mar 2012 15:53:56 -0700 (PDT), "
> wrote:

>On Mar 22, 1:58*pm, "Julie Bove" > wrote:
>> "John Kuthe" > wrote in message
>>
>> ...
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Thu, 22 Mar 2012 12:24:24 -0700, "Malcom \"Mal\" Reynolds"
>> > > wrote:

>>
>> >>In >,
>> >> John Kuthe > wrote:

>>
>> >>> On Wed, 21 Mar 2012 22:45:49 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>> >>> > wrote:
>> >>> ...

>>
>> >>> >I just buy pre-shedded chese.

>>
>> >>> Pre-shredded cheese is for 1) people that don't own and/or know how to
>> >>> work a cheese grater or 2) camping.

>>
>> >>> John Kuthe...

>>
>> >>this is yet another one of julies money saving tips, like how sliced
>> >>apples are
>> >>cheaper than whole apples

>>
>> >>It's also for people who like cellulose and/or gluten on their cheese, but
>> >>that
>> >>couldn't possibly be julie

>>
>> > Or very fine sand, or whatever it is that they put on shredded cheese
>> > to keep it from clumping up and sticking together!!

>>
>> > I know it ain't cheese!

>>
>> > John Kuthe...

>>
>> They don't put anything on shredded cheese!

>
>
>potato starch, corn starch, and calcium sulfate to prevent caking.


Ding! Ding! Ding! We have a winner!!

Damn! You mean I'm gonna have top get threee new bottles of "spices"
to get my freshly grated cheddar to take just like the crappy
pre-shredded crap?

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>> They don't put anything on shredded cheese!


>potato starch, corn starch, and calcium sulfate to prevent caking.


I have a pouch right he potato starch, cornstarch, and powdered
cellulose. That's not calcium sulfate; it's sawdust.



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On Thu, 22 Mar 2012 15:55:15 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
>"John Kuthe" > wrote in message
>news
>> On Thu, 22 Mar 2012 16:39:16 -0500, Bull > wrote:
>>
>>>In article >,
>>> John Kuthe > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Thu, 22 Mar 2012 13:58:08 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>> >
>>>> >"John Kuthe" > wrote in message
>>>> .. .
>>>> >> On Thu, 22 Mar 2012 12:24:24 -0700, "Malcom \"Mal\" Reynolds"
>>>> >> > wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >>>In article >,
>>>> >>> John Kuthe > wrote:
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>> On Wed, 21 Mar 2012 22:45:49 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>>> >>>> > wrote:
>>>> >>>> ...
>>>> >>>> >
>>>> >>>> >I just buy pre-shedded chese.
>>>> >>>> >
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> Pre-shredded cheese is for 1) people that don't own and/or know how
>>>> >>>> to
>>>> >>>> work a cheese grater or 2) camping.
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> John Kuthe...
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>this is yet another one of julies money saving tips, like how sliced
>>>> >>>apples are
>>>> >>>cheaper than whole apples
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>It's also for people who like cellulose and/or gluten on their
>>>> >>>cheese, but
>>>> >>>that
>>>> >>>couldn't possibly be julie
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Or very fine sand, or whatever it is that they put on shredded cheese
>>>> >> to keep it from clumping up and sticking together!!
>>>> >>
>>>> >> I know it ain't cheese!
>>>> >>
>>>> >> John Kuthe...
>>>> >
>>>> >They don't put anything on shredded cheese!
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>> How do they keep it from sticking together?
>>>>
>>>> John Kuthe...
>>>
>>>corn starch
>>>
>>>BULL

>>
>> There ya go! A little corn starch in your shredded cheese! YUM!
>>
>> Maybe I'll start adding some corn starch to my shredded cheddar after
>> I shred some cheddar with my cheese grater to give it that stale
>> preshredded prepackaged cheese flavor!
>>
>> Nahhhh! Just cheese for me, thank you very much.

>
>He's lying. It's just cheese.


Actually Kraft shredded cheeses do contain natural anti-caking
ingredients, doesn't say how much but probably a minimum amount... I
will assume that all other brands of shredded cheese do the same.
http://www.kraftrecipes.com/Products...t=210006338 2
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wrote:
>
>>> They don't put anything on shredded cheese!

>
>>potato starch, corn starch, and calcium sulfate to prevent caking.

>
>I have a pouch right he potato starch, cornstarch, and powdered
>cellulose. That's not calcium sulfate; it's sawdust.



Don't tell Julie, she'll be crestfallen!

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On Thu, 22 Mar 2012 19:38:14 -0400, Brooklyn1 <Gravesend1> wrote:

>On Thu, 22 Mar 2012 15:55:15 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"John Kuthe" > wrote in message
>>news
>>> On Thu, 22 Mar 2012 16:39:16 -0500, Bull > wrote:
>>>
>>>>In article >,
>>>> John Kuthe > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, 22 Mar 2012 13:58:08 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> >
>>>>> >"John Kuthe" > wrote in message
>>>>> .. .
>>>>> >> On Thu, 22 Mar 2012 12:24:24 -0700, "Malcom \"Mal\" Reynolds"
>>>>> >> > wrote:
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>>In article >,
>>>>> >>> John Kuthe > wrote:
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>> On Wed, 21 Mar 2012 22:45:49 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>>>> >>>> > wrote:
>>>>> >>>> ...
>>>>> >>>> >
>>>>> >>>> >I just buy pre-shedded chese.
>>>>> >>>> >
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>> Pre-shredded cheese is for 1) people that don't own and/or know how
>>>>> >>>> to
>>>>> >>>> work a cheese grater or 2) camping.
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>> John Kuthe...
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>this is yet another one of julies money saving tips, like how sliced
>>>>> >>>apples are
>>>>> >>>cheaper than whole apples
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>It's also for people who like cellulose and/or gluten on their
>>>>> >>>cheese, but
>>>>> >>>that
>>>>> >>>couldn't possibly be julie
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Or very fine sand, or whatever it is that they put on shredded cheese
>>>>> >> to keep it from clumping up and sticking together!!
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> I know it ain't cheese!
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> John Kuthe...
>>>>> >
>>>>> >They don't put anything on shredded cheese!
>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>> How do they keep it from sticking together?
>>>>>
>>>>> John Kuthe...
>>>>
>>>>corn starch
>>>>
>>>>BULL
>>>
>>> There ya go! A little corn starch in your shredded cheese! YUM!
>>>
>>> Maybe I'll start adding some corn starch to my shredded cheddar after
>>> I shred some cheddar with my cheese grater to give it that stale
>>> preshredded prepackaged cheese flavor!
>>>
>>> Nahhhh! Just cheese for me, thank you very much.

>>
>>He's lying. It's just cheese.

>
>Actually Kraft shredded cheeses do contain natural anti-caking
>ingredients, doesn't say how much but probably a minimum amount... I
>will assume that all other brands of shredded cheese do the same.
>http://www.kraftrecipes.com/Products...t=210006338 2


YEP:

"POTATO STARCH, CELLULOSE POWDER, AND CALCIUM SULFATE ADDED TO PREVENT
CAKING:

Sorry Julie! A lot more there than "just cheese"!

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I buy all my new appliances at the junk store here-usually young people
get them as gifts and then sell them on consignment-like new-then I
don't feel guilty about using something a few times and then putting it
away.

My hand mixer came with a stainless steel large wire egg whisk you could
attach-that thing is great.

My pizza cutters are those plastic halfcircle sharp edged "rocking"
cutters-works great.

The "ChopStir" is great-I use it to break up a package of raw hamburger
after I put it in the pan, but its also fantastic to chop up salad
fixings in a bowl-for example I buy broccoli slaw but the strands are
too long so I use my ChopStir to cut them. I also use it on whole pecans
in a bowl. Or on a plate for that matter. ChopStir is a new product,
great invention.
Must be a lot of people with expresso machines they don't want. I find them for $5 all the time. I love the stuff I find in the junk store. Most of it isn't used at all. French presses are often easy deals , too.

When caste iron was considered bad cooking they were giving it away. Thanks.
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John Kuthe wrote:

>>>> They don't put anything on shredded cheese!

>>
>>>potato starch, corn starch, and calcium sulfate to prevent caking.

>>
>>I have a pouch right he potato starch, cornstarch, and powdered
>>cellulose. That's not calcium sulfate; it's sawdust.

>
>
>Don't tell Julie, she'll be crestfallen!


I'll have to check the ingredients at WF next time I go there, but
since the additives in my pouch are indeed natural, I wouldn't be
surprised to find pretty much the same list.

Found an interesting cite:

calcium sulfate (CaSO4)
a moisture-absorbing white powder used for making plaster casts.
Also called plaster of paris.

Yum!




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On 3/22/2012 6:25 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>
> "S Viemeister" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 3/21/2012 7:17 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>
>>> "ImStillMags" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> We all have some.....don't we? I know I do. Here's a good little
>>>> article from the Times about those kitchen tools we buy and never use.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/21/di...tml?ref=dining
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Two people talk about NOT using things many people use here on a
>>>> regular basis: a pressure cooker, and a Cuisinart.
>>>
>>> This was so funny but so true) Ask me how I know ... I just loved
>>> this article)
>>>

>> What have you bought that you never use?
>> I use my food processor and stand mixer often enough that they live on
>> the kitchen counter.
>> I almost never use my food mill, but I do use my ricer. I have a
>> double-bladed mezzaluna which never gets used, but the single-bladed
>> one is used quite often. My electric wok is hiding somewhere on a
>> shelf in the basement.

>
> In the 'bad old days' I would fall for any gadget As you know, I had a
> grand clear out and am tempted no more)
>
> I don't think I ever once used my ricer ...


I'm glad I never bought one. I have been tempted but have no problem
cooking it on the stovetop so I resisted. I'm sure there are things I
have that aren't used but so far I can't think of any. I have an
espresso machine that I've never used but it was a Christmas present. I
really need to try it out one of these days.

Meat grinder was a good purchase but I rarely use ground meat so it
doesn't get much use. Likewise the Vitamix because I never stuck with
the green smoothie idea but use it occasionally for margaritas or similar.

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On 3/22/2012 10:50 AM, Janet wrote:

> As for my battery driven stainless steel push-button pepper grinder WITH
> LIGHT; I use it all the time and love it:-) Every cook should have one
> IMO.


I LOVE gadgets like that. I have a one handed pepper grinder and it
comes in handy. Not battery driven though.

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> wrote:

>John Kuthe wrote:
>
>>>>> They don't put anything on shredded cheese!
>>>
>>>>potato starch, corn starch, and calcium sulfate to prevent caking.
>>>
>>>I have a pouch right he potato starch, cornstarch, and powdered
>>>cellulose. That's not calcium sulfate; it's sawdust.

>>
>>
>>Don't tell Julie, she'll be crestfallen!

>
>I'll have to check the ingredients at WF next time I go there, but
>since the additives in my pouch are indeed natural, I wouldn't be
>surprised to find pretty much the same list.
>
>Found an interesting cite:
>
>calcium sulfate (CaSO4)
>a moisture-absorbing white powder used for making plaster casts.
>Also called plaster of paris.
>
>Yum!
>


That's rthe stuff they used to make casts out of for broken limbs too!
Sometimes still do too!

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> wrote:

>We all have some.....don't we? I know I do. Here's a good little
>article from the Times about those kitchen tools we buy and never use.
>
>http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/21/di...tml?ref=dining
>
>Two people talk about NOT using things many people use here on a
>regular basis: a pressure cooker, and a Cuisinart.


Dang, judging from all the responses, I think we should have a rummage
sale.

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On Mar 22, 1:45*am, "Julie Bove" > wrote:
> wrote:
> > On Mar 21, 4:29 pm, ImStillMags > wrote:
> >> We all have some.....don't we? I know I do. Here's a good little
> >> article from the Times about those kitchen tools we buy and never
> >> use.

>
> >>http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/21/di...ets-for-the-ki....

>
> >> Two people talk about NOT using things many people use here on a
> >> regular basis: a pressure cooker, and a Cuisinart.

>
> > I use a food processor all the time. *Why spend several minutes
> > grating a block of cheese, let alone the wear and tear it does on your
> > knuckles, *when you can do it in seconds in a food processor? *I also
> > have a pressure canner/cooker that I use for canning green beans and
> > tomatoes. *The one common kitchen appliance that I rarely use is a
> > mixer. *I prefer to mix by hand ( with a spoon of course) so I know
> > everything is thoroughly incorporated. *It seems like whenever I've
> > used an electric mixer I've had to go back and stir in the stuff that
> > the beater missed at the bottom of the bowl.

>
> I just buy pre-shedded chese.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -


I think cheese has more flavor when you grate it yourself and use it
right away. Once it's grated, there's more surface area exposed to
the air and the cheese begins to lose its flavor. This may be less
true for milder cheeses like mozzarella, but it's definitely true for
sharper cheeses such as parmesan. The pre-grated parmesan, and I'm
not talking about the stuff that comes in a can, has a lot less flavor
than parmesan you grate yourself.


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wrote:

>On Thu, 22 Mar 2012 19:38:14 -0400, Brooklyn1 <Gravesend1> wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 22 Mar 2012 15:55:15 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"John Kuthe" > wrote in message
>>>news >>>> On Thu, 22 Mar 2012 16:39:16 -0500, Bull > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>In article >,
>>>>> John Kuthe > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, 22 Mar 2012 13:58:08 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >"John Kuthe" > wrote in message
>>>>>> .. .
>>>>>> >> On Thu, 22 Mar 2012 12:24:24 -0700, "Malcom \"Mal\" Reynolds"
>>>>>> >> > wrote:
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>>In article >,
>>>>>> >>> John Kuthe > wrote:
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>> On Wed, 21 Mar 2012 22:45:49 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>>>>> >>>> > wrote:
>>>>>> >>>> ...
>>>>>> >>>> >
>>>>>> >>>> >I just buy pre-shedded chese.
>>>>>> >>>> >
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> Pre-shredded cheese is for 1) people that don't own and/or know how
>>>>>> >>>> to
>>>>>> >>>> work a cheese grater or 2) camping.
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> John Kuthe...
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>this is yet another one of julies money saving tips, like how sliced
>>>>>> >>>apples are
>>>>>> >>>cheaper than whole apples
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>It's also for people who like cellulose and/or gluten on their
>>>>>> >>>cheese, but
>>>>>> >>>that
>>>>>> >>>couldn't possibly be julie
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Or very fine sand, or whatever it is that they put on shredded cheese
>>>>>> >> to keep it from clumping up and sticking together!!
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> I know it ain't cheese!
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> John Kuthe...
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >They don't put anything on shredded cheese!
>>>>>> >
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How do they keep it from sticking together?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> John Kuthe...
>>>>>
>>>>>corn starch
>>>>>
>>>>>BULL
>>>>
>>>> There ya go! A little corn starch in your shredded cheese! YUM!
>>>>
>>>> Maybe I'll start adding some corn starch to my shredded cheddar after
>>>> I shred some cheddar with my cheese grater to give it that stale
>>>> preshredded prepackaged cheese flavor!
>>>>
>>>> Nahhhh! Just cheese for me, thank you very much.
>>>
>>>He's lying. It's just cheese.

>>
>>Actually Kraft shredded cheeses do contain natural anti-caking
>>ingredients, doesn't say how much but probably a minimum amount... I
>>will assume that all other brands of shredded cheese do the same.
>>http://www.kraftrecipes.com/Products...t=210006338 2

>
>YEP:
>
>"POTATO STARCH, CELLULOSE POWDER, AND CALCIUM SULFATE ADDED TO PREVENT
>CAKING:
>
>Sorry Julie! A lot more there than "just cheese"!


I wouldn't call that "A lot more". Many whole cheeses contain
ingredients other than just milk, it's what gives them their
individuality. I don't think anyone ever suffered any ill effects
from ingesting a bit of potato starch, cellulose, or calcium sulfate,
which is a very common chemical in foods that is used as a desiccant,
it is also used as a coagulant in products like tofu. There are a lot
more chemicals to be concerned with in a ham sandwhich.
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>Dang, judging from all the responses, I think we should have a rummage
>sale.


www.ebay.com -- you may have heard of it.


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On Mar 22, 8:25*pm, Brooklyn1 <Gravesend1> wrote:
> On Thu, 22 Mar 2012 18:42:05 -0500, John Kuthe >
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >On Thu, 22 Mar 2012 19:38:14 -0400, Brooklyn1 <Gravesend1> wrote:

>
> >>On Thu, 22 Mar 2012 15:55:15 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:

>
> >>>"John Kuthe" > wrote in message
> >>>news > >>>> On Thu, 22 Mar 2012 16:39:16 -0500, Bull > wrote:

>
> >>>>>In article >,
> >>>>> John Kuthe > wrote:

>
> >>>>>> On Thu, 22 Mar 2012 13:58:08 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> >>>>>> > wrote:

>
> >>>>>> >"John Kuthe" > wrote in message
> >>>>>> .. .
> >>>>>> >> On Thu, 22 Mar 2012 12:24:24 -0700, "Malcom \"Mal\" Reynolds"
> >>>>>> >> > wrote:

>
> >>>>>> >>>In article >,
> >>>>>> >>> John Kuthe > wrote:

>
> >>>>>> >>>> On Wed, 21 Mar 2012 22:45:49 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> >>>>>> >>>> > wrote:
> >>>>>> >>>> ...

>
> >>>>>> >>>> >I just buy pre-shedded chese.

>
> >>>>>> >>>> Pre-shredded cheese is for 1) people that don't own and/or know how
> >>>>>> >>>> to
> >>>>>> >>>> work a cheese grater or 2) camping.

>
> >>>>>> >>>> John Kuthe...

>
> >>>>>> >>>this is yet another one of julies money saving tips, like how sliced
> >>>>>> >>>apples are
> >>>>>> >>>cheaper than whole apples

>
> >>>>>> >>>It's also for people who like cellulose and/or gluten on their
> >>>>>> >>>cheese, but
> >>>>>> >>>that
> >>>>>> >>>couldn't possibly be julie

>
> >>>>>> >> Or very fine sand, or whatever it is that they put on shredded cheese
> >>>>>> >> to keep it from clumping up and sticking together!!

>
> >>>>>> >> I know it ain't cheese!

>
> >>>>>> >> John Kuthe...

>
> >>>>>> >They don't put anything on shredded cheese!

>
> >>>>>> How do they keep it from sticking together?

>
> >>>>>> John Kuthe...

>
> >>>>>corn starch

>
> >>>>>BULL

>
> >>>> There ya go! A little corn starch in your shredded cheese! YUM!

>
> >>>> Maybe I'll start adding some corn starch to my shredded cheddar after
> >>>> I shred some cheddar with my cheese grater to give it that stale
> >>>> preshredded prepackaged cheese flavor!

>
> >>>> Nahhhh! Just cheese for me, thank you very much.

>
> >>>He's lying. *It's just cheese.

>
> >>Actually Kraft shredded cheeses do contain natural anti-caking
> >>ingredients, doesn't say how much but probably a minimum amount... I
> >>will assume that all other brands of shredded cheese do the same.
> >>http://www.kraftrecipes.com/Products....aspx?SiteId=1....

>
> >YEP:

>
> >"POTATO STARCH, CELLULOSE POWDER, AND CALCIUM SULFATE ADDED TO PREVENT
> >CAKING:

>
> >Sorry Julie! A lot more there than "just cheese"!

>
> I wouldn't call that "A lot more". *Many whole cheeses contain
> ingredients other than just milk, it's what gives them their
> individuality. *I don't think anyone ever suffered any ill effects
> from ingesting a bit of potato starch, cellulose, or calcium sulfate,
> which is a very common chemical in foods that is used as a desiccant,
> it is also used as a coagulant in products like tofu. *There are a lot
> more chemicals to be concerned with in a ham sandwhich.


None of those additives are the least bit unhealthful, and if the
cheese is melted, there's no difference in quality, but in
circumstances where the cheese is not melted, there is a discernible
difference. For tacos or salads, the pre-grated cheese in the pouches
is inferior. Melted on a pizza or enchiladas, there's pretty much no
difference.

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On Mar 22, 1:58 pm, "Julie Bove" > wrote:
> "John Kuthe" > wrote in message
>
> ...
>
>
>
> > On Thu, 22 Mar 2012 12:24:24 -0700, "Malcom \"Mal\" Reynolds"
> > > wrote:

>
> >>In >,
> >> John Kuthe > wrote:

>
> >>> On Wed, 21 Mar 2012 22:45:49 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> >>> > wrote:
> >>> ...

>
> >>> >I just buy pre-shedded chese.

>
> >>> Pre-shredded cheese is for 1) people that don't own and/or know how to
> >>> work a cheese grater or 2) camping.

>
> >>> John Kuthe...

>
> >>this is yet another one of julies money saving tips, like how sliced
> >>apples are
> >>cheaper than whole apples

>
> >>It's also for people who like cellulose and/or gluten on their cheese,
> >>but
> >>that
> >>couldn't possibly be julie

>
> > Or very fine sand, or whatever it is that they put on shredded cheese
> > to keep it from clumping up and sticking together!!

>
> > I know it ain't cheese!

>
> > John Kuthe...

>
> They don't put anything on shredded cheese!



potato starch, corn starch, and calcium sulfate to prevent caking.

Wrong! I have shredded cheese in my fridge. Only has cheese in it.


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>
> > wrote:
> >We all have some.....don't we? * I know I do. * *Here's a good little
> >article from the Times about those kitchen tools we buy and never use.

>
> >http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/21/di...ets-for-the-ki...

>
> >Two people talk about NOT using things many people use here on a
> >regular basis: * a pressure cooker, and a Cuisinart.

>
> Dang, judging from all the responses, I think we should have a rummage
> sale.


Anyone out there have a good garlic press, who has decided that they
prefer chopping with a knife? Somehow, my garlic press got lost.
I've got a new Zyliss one on my Amazon wish list, but haven't ordered
it yet.
>
> koko


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