Does anyone know of any price comparisons for detergent pods and bulk
liquids or powders for clothes and dish washing? The pods *are*
convenient and seem to work well but I suspect are relatively expensive.

--
Jim Silverton (Potomac, MD)

Extraneous "not" in Reply To.

In article >,
James Silverton > wrote:

> Does anyone know of any price comparisons for detergent pods and bulk
> liquids or powders for clothes and dish washing? The pods *are*
> convenient and seem to work well but I suspect are relatively expensive.

The dishwasher detergent tablets are pricey. We buy ours in 100-count
canisters at Costco for < $15. We don't use the laundry pods, mostly
because of the fragrance. Again, Costco is our friend.

OB Food: Tonight's dinner will be sausage and mushroom pizza with
homemade crust.

Cindy

--
C.J. Fuller

Delete the obvious to email me

Cindy Fuller > wrote in
:

> In article >,
> James Silverton > wrote:
>
>> Does anyone know of any price comparisons for detergent pods and bulk
>> liquids or powders for clothes and dish washing? The pods *are*
>> convenient and seem to work well but I suspect are relatively expensive.
>
> The dishwasher detergent tablets are pricey. We buy ours in 100-count
> canisters at Costco for < $15. We don't use the laundry pods, mostly
> because of the fragrance. Again, Costco is our friend.





Can you get soapnuts in the US (for laundry and general cleaning)?


http://www.soapinanutshell.com.au/


I bought a 1kg bag, and that will do approx 400 loads of washing which
works out to about .08c per wash.



Just had a look....... yes you can get them in the US.........


http://zamuta.com/

32ozs for $19 which according to the websitye gives you 300+ washes.



--
Peter
Tasmania
Australia

In article >,
"I'm back on the laptop" > wrote:

> Can you get soapnuts in the US (for laundry and general cleaning)?
> ...
> Just had a look....... yes you can get them in the US.........
>
>
> http://zamuta.com/

I have to be careful about laundry detergents, because some of them
contain dyes, perfumes, or other substances that set off an allergic
reaction (mild skin rash).

The Zamuta website has this seemingly reassuring text:

"If you or your loved ones have experienced allergic reactions to normal
soaps, you should try soapnuts right away. Since soapnuts are
all-natural with no chemical additives, you can be confident that they
will be pleaseant and gentle without side-effects."

I don't know whether soapnuts would trigger my allergies or not. But
that comment is just a bunch of advertising drivel. Think about the
sources that trigger most people's allergies: foods, pollens, residues
from animals, etc. These are "all-natural" substances, not "chemical
additives". In fact, nuts are a very common trigger for allergies.

A brief google search led to a page which claims that soapnuts are not
actually nuts. They are allegedly a type of berry, related to the
lychee. But that does not guarantee that they are hypallergenic.

--
Julian Vrieslander

"Julian Vrieslander" > wrote in message
...
> In article >,
> "I'm back on the laptop" > wrote:
>
>> Can you get soapnuts in the US (for laundry and general cleaning)?
>> ...
>> Just had a look....... yes you can get them in the US.........
>>
>>
>> http://zamuta.com/
>
> I have to be careful about laundry detergents, because some of them
> contain dyes, perfumes, or other substances that set off an allergic
> reaction (mild skin rash).
>
> The Zamuta website has this seemingly reassuring text:
>
> "If you or your loved ones have experienced allergic reactions to normal
> soaps, you should try soapnuts right away. Since soapnuts are
> all-natural with no chemical additives, you can be confident that they
> will be pleaseant and gentle without side-effects."
>
> I don't know whether soapnuts would trigger my allergies or not. But
> that comment is just a bunch of advertising drivel. Think about the
> sources that trigger most people's allergies: foods, pollens, residues
> from animals, etc. These are "all-natural" substances, not "chemical
> additives". In fact, nuts are a very common trigger for allergies.
>
> A brief google search led to a page which claims that soapnuts are not
> actually nuts. They are allegedly a type of berry, related to the
> lychee. But that does not guarantee that they are hypallergenic.

I have not tried soapnuts but have heard good things about them. I think
you can get quite a few uses out of them too.

On Apr 2, 2:00*am, Julian Vrieslander >
wrote:
> In article >,
> *"I'm back on the laptop" > wrote:
>
> > Can you get soapnuts in the US (for laundry and general cleaning)?
> > *...
> > Just had a look....... yes you can get them in the US.........
>
> >http://zamuta.com/
>
> I have to be careful about laundry detergents, because some of them
> contain dyes, perfumes, or other substances that set off an allergic
> reaction (mild skin rash).
>
> The Zamuta website has this seemingly reassuring text:
>
> "If you or your loved ones have experienced allergic reactions to normal
> soaps, you should try soapnuts right away. Since soapnuts are
> all-natural with no chemical additives, you can be confident that they
> will be pleaseant and gentle without side-effects."
>
> I don't know whether soapnuts would trigger my allergies or not. *But
> that comment is just a bunch of advertising drivel. *Think about the
> sources that trigger most people's allergies: foods, pollens, residues
> from animals, etc. *These are "all-natural" substances, not "chemical
> additives". *In fact, nuts are a very common trigger for allergies.
>
> A brief google search led to a page which claims that soapnuts are not
> actually nuts. *They are allegedly a type of berry, related to the
> lychee. *But that does not guarantee that they are hypallergenic.
>
> --
> Julian Vrieslander

Anything touted as "all natural" should be carefully scrutinized.
Nuts are "all natural," and a whole filbert would kill me. It's an
empty phrase.

N.

On Apr 10, 3:41*pm, Nancy2 > wrote:

> Anything touted as "all natural" should be carefully scrutinized.
> Nuts are "all natural," and a whole filbert would kill me.



You shouldn't announce that for all to see. Maybe one day someone
will want to kill you for some reason, and all you've done is provide
them with one more way of doing it - and then passing it off as
accidental ingestion to avoid being prosecuted. Just as one should
not advertise how much money they have and where they keep it, so too
should people not advertise things that could kill them.

"Wait a minute, wait a minute - you say she's allergic to nuts? Ok, I
think we can work this out. Here's the plan........."

Professional hitman who likes this group and hopes nobody ever hires
me to put the hit on anyone who posts here.
TJ

On Sun, 01 Apr 2012 16:18:20 -0700, Cindy Fuller
> wrote:

> OB Food: Tonight's dinner will be sausage and mushroom pizza with
> homemade crust.

It was pizza night last night at my house too!

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

On 4/1/2012 8:29 AM, James Silverton wrote:
> Does anyone know of any price comparisons for detergent pods and bulk
> liquids or powders for clothes and dish washing? The pods *are*
> convenient and seem to work well but I suspect are relatively expensive.
>

They are expensive because otherwise, I'd be using them. The Finish Tabs
seem to be sold at a good price point - they'd have to be because it's
what I use. I'm washing dishes at the moment with the Finish Tabs and a
small amount of TSP. Occasionally I'll sprinkle in a cup of Country Time
lemonade powder to get rid of the calcium deposits. My recommendation is
that you use only warehouse store sized containers for this - they are
dirt cheap.

James Silverton wrote:
> Does anyone know of any price comparisons for detergent pods and bulk
> liquids or powders for clothes and dish washing? The pods *are*
> convenient and seem to work well but I suspect are relatively expensive.
>


Remember Salvo tablets? (and the commercial with the fist in the
washing machine?)

Purex made HE laundry detergent tablets a couple of years ago.
Reasonably priced, and they worked well. They were *great* for
traveling because they wouldn't spill all over the place like liquid or
powders. (they were discontinued, of course)

-Bob

salvo is what i have been trying to think of for ages, all i could remember
was the fist, lol, Lee
"zxcvbob" > wrote in message
...
> James Silverton wrote:
>> Does anyone know of any price comparisons for detergent pods and bulk
>> liquids or powders for clothes and dish washing? The pods *are*
>> convenient and seem to work well but I suspect are relatively expensive.
>>
>
>
> Remember Salvo tablets? (and the commercial with the fist in the washing
> machine?)
>
> Purex made HE laundry detergent tablets a couple of years ago. Reasonably
> priced, and they worked well. They were *great* for traveling because
> they wouldn't spill all over the place like liquid or powders. (they were
> discontinued, of course)
>
> -Bob

"Storrmmee" > wrote in message
...
> salvo is what i have been trying to think of for ages, all i could
> remember was the fist, lol, Lee

I remember that stuff. I used to love putting it in the washer.

Now I have a HE washer. It has a little drawer that you pull out. I use
Method detergent and it takes 4 squirts.

On Apr 1, 2:29*pm, James Silverton > wrote:
> Does anyone know of any price comparisons for detergent pods and bulk
> liquids or powders for clothes and dish washing? The pods *are*
> convenient and seem to work well but I suspect are relatively expensive.
>
> --
> Jim Silverton (Potomac, MD)
>
> Extraneous "not" in Reply To.

They sound impractical to me. Not all laundry loads are the same size
nor do they require the same amount of detergent. A heavily soiled
load would require more detergent than a normal load of the same size.

On 4/2/2012 1:56 AM, wrote:
> On Apr 1, 2:29 pm, James > wrote:
>> Does anyone know of any price comparisons for detergent pods and bulk
>> liquids or powders for clothes and dish washing? The pods *are*
>> convenient and seem to work well but I suspect are relatively expensive.
>>
>> --
>> Jim Silverton (Potomac, MD)
>>
>> Extraneous "not" in Reply To.
>
> They sound impractical to me. Not all laundry loads are the same size
> nor do they require the same amount of detergent. A heavily soiled
> load would require more detergent than a normal load of the same size.

They do mention the possibility of using two pods but, so far, one has
sufficed.

--
Jim Silverton (Potomac, MD)

Extraneous "not" in Reply To.

On 4/2/2012 12:14 PM, James Silverton wrote:
> On 4/2/2012 1:56 AM, wrote:
>> On Apr 1, 2:29 pm, James > wrote:
>>> Does anyone know of any price comparisons for detergent pods and bulk
>>> liquids or powders for clothes and dish washing? The pods *are*
>>> convenient and seem to work well but I suspect are relatively expensive.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Jim Silverton (Potomac, MD)
>>>
>>> Extraneous "not" in Reply To.
>>
>> They sound impractical to me. Not all laundry loads are the same size
>> nor do they require the same amount of detergent. A heavily soiled
>> load would require more detergent than a normal load of the same size.
>
> They do mention the possibility of using two pods but, so far, one has
> sufficed.
>

I wash clothes the way I cook - eyeballing the measurements. I've also
been using regular cheap detergent in my new washer instead of Tide HE
or some other expensive brand. I'm beginning think this HE stuff is a
scam. :-)

On Apr 1, 2:29*pm, James Silverton > wrote:
> Does anyone know of any price comparisons for detergent pods and bulk
> liquids or powders for clothes and dish washing? The pods *are*
> convenient and seem to work well but I suspect are relatively expensive.
>

I think Consumer Reports did an article on dw products. As I recall,
they were top of the line expensive. I make do with a housebrand of
gel - works fine.

On Apr 1, 2:29*pm, James Silverton > wrote:


> Does anyone know of any price comparisons for detergent pods and bulk
> liquids or powders for clothes and dish washing? The pods *are*
> convenient and seem to work well but I suspect are relatively expensive.


Maybe it's because I buy my clothes at thrift stores and wear
mostly cotton stuff that doesn't need pressing, but I mix my colors
when I wash them, and I don't use soap at all, just a small box of
baking soda, then during the rinse cycle a small jar of vinegar. I'm
not recommending for others as I'd hate to be wrong about it, but I
really feel it does a good job because there is soap in the lines of
the washing machine at all times and you're going to get some of it
always, and most people use too much soap anyway. I've been doing
this for several years and nobody in the cab has told me my clothes
stink, although maybe my passengers are just trying to be nice.
Really though, I think the baking soda and vinegar is good enough, and
even nothing would probably work, as in reality water is the cleaning
agent anyway.

TJ

Tommy Joe wrote:
>James Silverton wrote:
>
>> Does anyone know of any price comparisons for detergent pods and bulk
>> liquids or powders for clothes and dish washing? The pods *are*
>> convenient and seem to work well but I suspect are relatively expensive.
>
>Maybe it's because I buy my clothes at thrift stores and wear
>mostly cotton stuff that doesn't need pressing, but I mix my colors
>when I wash them, and I don't use soap at all, just a small box of
>baking soda, then during the rinse cycle a small jar of vinegar. I'm
>not recommending for others as I'd hate to be wrong about it, but I
>really feel it does a good job because there is soap in the lines of
>the washing machine at all times and you're going to get some of it
>always, and most people use too much soap anyway. I've been doing
>this for several years and nobody in the cab has told me my clothes
>stink, although maybe my passengers are just trying to be nice.
>Really though, I think the baking soda and vinegar is good enough, and
>even nothing would probably work, as in reality water is the cleaning
>agent anyway.
>
>TJ

Wouldn't you do better to add the baking soda and vinegar directly,
use it in your douche bag. For a sweeter fragrance you might want to
add some of notbob's navel orange lint. LOL

On Apr 9, 11:28*am, Brooklyn1 <Gravesend1> wrote:

> Wouldn't you do better to add the baking soda and vinegar directly,
> use it in your douche bag. *For a sweeter fragrance you might want to
> add some of notbob's navel orange lint. LOL


I don't want the fragrance, that's why I went with baking soda in
the first place. Yeah, I have wondered about using them both at the
same time, but I heard vinegar is good for getting soap out of clothes
during the rinse cycle. I wonder how horrible a death would be for
someone forced into a large clothes dryer and locked in with the
temperature on the hottest setting. Man, that would be brutal. You'd
want to be hopping from one position to another, like a live rabbit in
a frying pan hopping all around - but you're packed into that dryer
really tight and you can't move. You're on a crazy, dizzying ride
that gets progressively hotter and hotter as your screams are heard
muffled yet loud coming from the machine that is making a sound of
it's own, and it's like some kind of new age music that's from another
age that isn't new yet - and you brooklyn, you are the guy in the
dryer. This is the only way we can teach you to appreciate things as
they are instead of griping all the time and trying to make a politcal
issue out of everything.

TJ

i am not sure about price comparisions but there are also other factors to
consider when deciding,
-portion control for the dw you won't get too much
-spillage/mess; you won't drop the box and get poweder or liquid everywhere.
-pet safety, see above, the cat won't walk in it as you are cleaning up.
-getting older; picking up a finish tab is big enough to get ahold of, but
not so heavey it hurts a hand or joint.

Lee
"James Silverton" > wrote in message
...
> Does anyone know of any price comparisons for detergent pods and bulk
> liquids or powders for clothes and dish washing? The pods *are* convenient
> and seem to work well but I suspect are relatively expensive.
>
> --
> Jim Silverton (Potomac, MD)
>
> Extraneous "not" in Reply To.

"Storrmmee" > wrote in message
...
>i am not sure about price comparisions but there are also other factors to
>consider when deciding,
> -portion control for the dw you won't get too much
> -spillage/mess; you won't drop the box and get poweder or liquid
> everywhere.
> -pet safety, see above, the cat won't walk in it as you are cleaning up.
> -getting older; picking up a finish tab is big enough to get ahold of, but
> not so heavey it hurts a hand or joint.

I don't use my dishwasher very often. Mainly I only use it when my husband
is home. With two people we just don't generate a lot of dishes on most
days. I don't really understand how my parents can fill theirs each day,
especially since my mom doesn't cook much. But we also use paper bowls,
plates and cups for a lot of things and they do not.

Some years ago I bought some boxes of dishwashing powder at the military
commissary. This was recommended to me by a dishwasher repairman who
claimed that the liquid or gel (can't remember which) I was using was
messing things up. Apparently I happened upon a super good sale and perhaps
I even had some coupons. I can't remember now. But then after I bought it
I was afraid to use the dishwasher. Our kitchen sink was clogging up every
3 months or so. I have since had it replumbed twice under the sink but the
last plumber said there was some sort of additional problem in the wall.
Grrr... He sold me some expensive stuff to put down it monthly and I am
overdue to do that. Not sure if it will help or not. The last clog was not
in at the sink but in the wall.

Anyway... I got a new dishwasher a few years ago as a gift and I was also
given some of those little pouches of stuff to put in there. Those would
never be my choice because they are the Dawn brand and I just don't like the
scent of the stuff. They sat there and sat there because I had so much
powder left. Then I got to the last box and there was a leak under the
sink. I kept the box down there. The leak was actually from the dishwasher
because the idiot installer failed to tighten the clamp to the hose. Oh
joy! Anyway... The box got all wet. I was able to use the product on the
top of it but then finally decided there was no need to be that frugal and I
threw it out.

I have used one of those little pouches since. No complaints except that I
don't get a nice scent. I really like a nice scent from my cleaning
products. Not a chemical scent and that is what I get from these. I'm
pretty sure this package came from Costco so it will take me forever and a
day to use it all up.

the dh hates paper/plastic, but even using the real dishes, we don't fill it
every day, i just keep putting them until full and run it when its full. it
does a decent enough job i have little problems, but i do like my cleaning
things to have NO scent. the finish bricks are nice because of not spilling
it on the floor and i think it actually gives me a better clean to boot, Lee
"Julie Bove" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Storrmmee" > wrote in message
> ...
>>i am not sure about price comparisions but there are also other factors to
>>consider when deciding,
>> -portion control for the dw you won't get too much
>> -spillage/mess; you won't drop the box and get poweder or liquid
>> everywhere.
>> -pet safety, see above, the cat won't walk in it as you are cleaning up.
>> -getting older; picking up a finish tab is big enough to get ahold of,
>> but not so heavey it hurts a hand or joint.
>
> I don't use my dishwasher very often. Mainly I only use it when my
> husband is home. With two people we just don't generate a lot of dishes
> on most days. I don't really understand how my parents can fill theirs
> each day, especially since my mom doesn't cook much. But we also use
> paper bowls, plates and cups for a lot of things and they do not.
>
> Some years ago I bought some boxes of dishwashing powder at the military
> commissary. This was recommended to me by a dishwasher repairman who
> claimed that the liquid or gel (can't remember which) I was using was
> messing things up. Apparently I happened upon a super good sale and
> perhaps I even had some coupons. I can't remember now. But then after I
> bought it I was afraid to use the dishwasher. Our kitchen sink was
> clogging up every 3 months or so. I have since had it replumbed twice
> under the sink but the last plumber said there was some sort of additional
> problem in the wall. Grrr... He sold me some expensive stuff to put down
> it monthly and I am overdue to do that. Not sure if it will help or not.
> The last clog was not in at the sink but in the wall.
>
> Anyway... I got a new dishwasher a few years ago as a gift and I was also
> given some of those little pouches of stuff to put in there. Those would
> never be my choice because they are the Dawn brand and I just don't like
> the scent of the stuff. They sat there and sat there because I had so
> much powder left. Then I got to the last box and there was a leak under
> the sink. I kept the box down there. The leak was actually from the
> dishwasher because the idiot installer failed to tighten the clamp to the
> hose. Oh joy! Anyway... The box got all wet. I was able to use the
> product on the top of it but then finally decided there was no need to be
> that frugal and I threw it out.
>
> I have used one of those little pouches since. No complaints except that
> I don't get a nice scent. I really like a nice scent from my cleaning
> products. Not a chemical scent and that is what I get from these. I'm
> pretty sure this package came from Costco so it will take me forever and a
> day to use it all up.
>

Storrmmee wrote:
>
> the dh hates paper/plastic, but even using the real dishes, we don't fill it
> every day, i just keep putting them until full and run it when its full.

I can't do the dishwasher thing. If I cook one meal or so and put in
dishwasher, it's very little. The next time I cook, I end up needing
something that is still dirty in the dishwasher. Because of that, I hand
wash all dishes and only use the dishwasher as an expensive drying rack.
I'll run it every 2 weeks or so just to keep it clean.

Gary

On May 3, 5:17*pm, Gary > wrote:

> I can't do the dishwasher thing. If I cook one meal or so and put in
> dishwasher, it's very little. The next time I cook, I end up needing
> something that is still dirty in the dishwasher. *Because of that, I hand
> wash all dishes and only use the dishwasher as an expensive drying rack.
> I'll run it every 2 weeks or so just to keep it clean.


Almost like having a big boat in the driveway that never goes
anywhere. I have never owned a dish washer or air conditioner. I'm
not against them, just never established the habit and figure why
change now. I'm not exactly Mr Clean, but from what I've seen, I
don't like the job dishwashers do compared to hand washing. Of course
washing them right away by hand is best. If the plates contained non
greasy stuff you don't even need to use soap. The dishwasher is just
one more luxury that has become a necessity for most people in today's
raced up world.

Going nowhere fast,
TJ

James Silverton wrote:
>
> Does anyone know of any price comparisons for detergent pods and bulk
> liquids or powders for clothes and dish washing? The pods *are*
> convenient and seem to work well but I suspect are relatively expensive.

Aren't you capable of comparing prices amongst different products at
the stupidmarket... they're clearly marked with the price, and each
package clearly states how many loads each will do. However how much
product to use depends on your schmutz level and your water hardness.
With softened water I can use less than half the recommended amount...
I tried the pods for my dishwasher and found I could cut them in half
and they still worked fine but the pods sometimes ejected into a
corner of the machine and under a bowl so didn't fully dissolve... I
have about a hundred dishwasher pods sitting on a shelf in my
basement, probably never to be used unless one day I find I ran out of
liquid. For laundry I use both powder and liquid, which one really
depends on my mood, how much depends on the size of the load, how much
schmutz, and fabric type... the less cleaning compound the less wear
on fabric... again, with softened water I can use less than half the
recommended amount. I never tried pods for laundry and probably never
will because I think they're a stupid idea, I'd much rather measure
like s n' p to taste.