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Or a rib roast. I have a 4.5 pound certified angus bone in rib roast for
tomorrow night. Given what it cost me, I'd like it to come out perfect. I Googled prime rib cooking and came up with too many different ways. High heat, low heat, long time, short time. I don't want to experiment with this. Can anyone point me in the right direction?Of course, I have a feeling I'll get those who think high heat, low heat, long time, short time. :-) Thanks. Oh, and another question. I only have one oven. How could I make Yorkshire pudding or popovers while cooking the roast with the temperatures required so different. Or can/should I? |
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On Apr 21, 12:30*pm, wrote:
> Or a rib roast. I have a 4.5 pound certified angus bone in rib roast for > tomorrow night. Given what it cost me, I'd like it to come out perfect. *I > Googled prime rib cooking and came up with too many different ways. High heat, > low heat, long time, short time. I don't want to experiment with this. Can > anyone point me in the right direction?Of course, I have a feeling I'll get > those who think high heat, low heat, long time, short time. *:-) > Thanks. > > Oh, and another question. I only have one oven. How could I make Yorkshire > pudding or popovers while cooking the roast with the temperatures required so > different. Or can/should I? You should just go out to eat if you can't figure it out. |
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On Sat, 21 Apr 2012 12:38:49 -0700 (PDT), Chemo the Clown
> wrote: >On Apr 21, 12:30*pm, wrote: >> Or a rib roast. I have a 4.5 pound certified angus bone in rib roast for >> tomorrow night. Given what it cost me, I'd like it to come out perfect. *I >> Googled prime rib cooking and came up with too many different ways. High heat, >> low heat, long time, short time. I don't want to experiment with this. Can >> anyone point me in the right direction?Of course, I have a feeling I'll get >> those who think high heat, low heat, long time, short time. *:-) >> Thanks. >> >> Oh, and another question. I only have one oven. How could I make Yorkshire >> pudding or popovers while cooking the roast with the temperatures required so >> different. Or can/should I? > >You should just go out to eat if you can't figure it out. More like Asshole the clown. |
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On Apr 21, 1:11*pm, wrote:
> On Sat, 21 Apr 2012 12:38:49 -0700 (PDT), Chemo the Clown > > > wrote: > >On Apr 21, 12:30*pm, wrote: > >> Or a rib roast. I have a 4.5 pound certified angus bone in rib roast for > >> tomorrow night. Given what it cost me, I'd like it to come out perfect.. *I > >> Googled prime rib cooking and came up with too many different ways. High heat, > >> low heat, long time, short time. I don't want to experiment with this. Can > >> anyone point me in the right direction?Of course, I have a feeling I'll get > >> those who think high heat, low heat, long time, short time. *:-) > >> Thanks. > > >> Oh, and another question. I only have one oven. How could I make Yorkshire > >> pudding or popovers while cooking the roast with the temperatures required so > >> different. Or can/should I? > > >You should just go out to eat if you can't figure it out. > > More like Asshole the clown. Well smarty Bob, you did say "Of course, I have a feeling I'll get >> those who think high heat, low heat, long time, short time. |
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> Or a rib roast. I have a 4.5 pound certified angus bone in rib roast for > tomorrow night. Given what it cost me, I'd like it to come out perfect. *I > Googled prime rib cooking and came up with too many different ways. High heat, > low heat, long time, short time. I don't want to experiment with this. Can > anyone point me in the right direction?Of course, I have a feeling I'll get > those who think high heat, low heat, long time, short time. * Unless you feel like experimenting just stab your roast with a meat thermometer and put it into a 325ºF oven, pull it out when your thermometer says it's cooked medium rare... have it rest for 15 minutes and have at it with a sharp knife. I don't season rib roast with anything other than lots of freshly cracked black pepper and a little kosher salt... rub with a little olive oil. A pricey cut of meat is not something to fool around experimenting with... rib roast should never be cooked past medium rare... if you like more well done go with a cheaper cut (round/chuck) and cook pot roast. |
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On Apr 21, 4:43*pm, Brooklyn1 <Gravesend1> wrote:
> wrote: > > Or a rib roast. I have a 4.5 pound certified angus bone in rib roast for > > tomorrow night. Given what it cost me, I'd like it to come out perfect. *I > > Googled prime rib cooking and came up with too many different ways. High heat, > > low heat, long time, short time. I don't want to experiment with this. Can > > anyone point me in the right direction?Of course, I have a feeling I'll get > > those who think high heat, low heat, long time, short time. > > Unless you feel like experimenting just stab your roast with a meat > thermometer and put it into a 325ºF oven, pull it out when your > thermometer says it's cooked medium rare... have it rest for 15 > minutes and have at it with a sharp knife. *I don't season rib roast > with anything other than lots of freshly cracked black pepper and a > little kosher salt... rub with a little olive oil. *A pricey cut of > meat is not something to fool around experimenting with... rib roast > should never be cooked past medium rare... if you like more well done > go with a cheaper cut (round/chuck) and cook pot roast. That's good advice. When I used to make it in the restaurant, I'd put it in the oven (convection oven) at 500F for 1/2 hour. Then lower heat to 200F for about geez, I forget the exact time, (we're talking 1978 here) maybe 2-3 hours(convection oven time!). Use meat thermo as suggested. Yorkshire pudding doesn't need that long. When the roast comes out, crank up the heat accordingly and bake them. I always put cooking oil into a muffin pan, put it in the oven to get it nice and hot, then put the batter into the muffin pan. It's not the classic way to make yorkshire pudding but... The roast can stand around a couple of hours at least. |
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On Apr 21, 12:30*pm, wrote:
> Or a rib roast. I have a 4.5 pound certified angus bone in rib roast for > tomorrow night. Given what it cost me, I'd like it to come out perfect. *I > Googled prime rib cooking and came up with too many different ways. High heat, > low heat, long time, short time. I don't want to experiment with this. Can > anyone point me in the right direction?Of course, I have a feeling I'll get > those who think high heat, low heat, long time, short time. *:-) > Thanks. > > Oh, and another question. I only have one oven. How could I make Yorkshire > pudding or popovers while cooking the roast with the temperatures required so > different. Or can/should I? Just a preparation suggestion: Cut the ribs away from the roast. Cut the fat off in one piece. Season the meat. Tie the fat and ribs back in place. After cooking, remove the ribs and fat and carve. Save the ribs for another time. http://www.richardfisher.com |
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... > Or a rib roast. I have a 4.5 pound certified angus bone in rib roast for > tomorrow night. Given what it cost me, I'd like it to come out perfect. I > Googled prime rib cooking and came up with too many different ways. High > heat, > low heat, long time, short time. I don't want to experiment with this. Can > anyone point me in the right direction?Of course, I have a feeling I'll > get > those who think high heat, low heat, long time, short time. :-) > Thanks. Dry the roast in the fridge for 2-3 days. Keep covered but allow air to circulate. To cook: oven at 450. Put some water in the pan to keep it from getting smokey as the fat cooks off. Pat the roast thoroughly with kosher salt and fresh ground pepper. Use a LOT. I've never found the need for any more seasoning. Into the oven for 30 minutes then turn down to 325 @ 20 minutes per pound for a medium rare. I like to leave the rib bones on and then cut free when ready to serve. If you use a thermometer remember to take the roast our 15 degrees before the target temperature. So 120 in this case. > Oh, and another question. I only have one oven. How could I make Yorkshire > pudding or popovers while cooking the roast with the temperatures required > so > different. Or can/should I? They are not popovers, completely different. Use the roast resting time to cook the puddings. Have the batter ready 30 minutes before the roast comes out. Whip air into the egg/milk mixture then add flour but do not mix aggressively. Start with warm eggs. Remove roast, cover to rest. Raise the oven temp to 425 while preparing the muffin pan. Add 1 tablespoon of the fat from the roast to each cup, swirl it around really well and then into the oven until it is *screaming hot.* Now pour your batter into each cup, 3/4 full, as fast as you can. I use my Pyrex mixer for this as it is easy to pour. Back into the oven for 20-25 minutes. The trick is hot hot hot and more hot. Also, a non-stick muffin pan is best. Good luck. |
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The way I've always done it is cooked it at 500 for 5 minutes a pound,
then turn the oven off and let it sit it the oven for two hours (do not open the door). If the internal temperature is not 135 degrees C, turn the oven up to 375 and cook it until it reaches 135, but it's usually doesn't take an additional 20 minutes to get it to 135. Let it sit for 15 minutes, then start carving. Before cooking I rub it down with a little olive oil then Montreal Steak seasoning. |
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![]() "A Moose in Love" wrote in message ... On Apr 21, 4:43 pm, Brooklyn1 <Gravesend1> wrote: > wrote: > > Or a rib roast. I have a 4.5 pound certified angus bone in rib roast for > > tomorrow night. Given what it cost me, I'd like it to come out perfect. > > I > > Googled prime rib cooking and came up with too many different ways. High > > heat, > > low heat, long time, short time. I don't want to experiment with this. > > Can > > anyone point me in the right direction?Of course, I have a feeling I'll > > get > > those who think high heat, low heat, long time, short time. > > Unless you feel like experimenting just stab your roast with a meat > thermometer and put it into a 325ºF oven, pull it out when your > thermometer says it's cooked medium rare... have it rest for 15 > minutes and have at it with a sharp knife. I don't season rib roast > with anything other than lots of freshly cracked black pepper and a > little kosher salt... rub with a little olive oil. A pricey cut of > meat is not something to fool around experimenting with... rib roast > should never be cooked past medium rare... if you like more well done > go with a cheaper cut (round/chuck) and cook pot roast. That's good advice. When I used to make it in the restaurant, I'd put it in the oven (convection oven) at 500F for 1/2 hour. Then lower heat to 200F for about geez, I forget the exact time, (we're talking 1978 here) maybe 2-3 hours(convection oven time!). Use meat thermo as suggested. Yorkshire pudding doesn't need that long. When the roast comes out, crank up the heat accordingly and bake them. I always put cooking oil into a muffin pan, put it in the oven to get it nice and hot, then put the batter into the muffin pan. It's not the classic way to make yorkshire pudding but... The roast can stand around a couple of hours at least. > > Your advice is good. Sheldon's is not good. If you roast a standing rib at 325F you'll have a grey band inside. You want medium rare edge to edge. What you're doing accomplishes that. Kent |
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![]() "Helpful person" > wrote in message ... On Apr 21, 12:30 pm, wrote: > Or a rib roast. I have a 4.5 pound certified angus bone in rib roast for > tomorrow night. Given what it cost me, I'd like it to come out perfect. I > Googled prime rib cooking and came up with too many different ways. High > heat, > low heat, long time, short time. I don't want to experiment with this. Can > anyone point me in the right direction?Of course, I have a feeling I'll > get > those who think high heat, low heat, long time, short time. :-) > Thanks. > > Oh, and another question. I only have one oven. How could I make Yorkshire > pudding or popovers while cooking the roast with the temperatures required > so > different. Or can/should I? Just a preparation suggestion: Cut the ribs away from the roast. Cut the fat off in one piece. Season the meat. Tie the fat and ribs back in place. After cooking, remove the ribs and fat and carve. Save the ribs for another time. http://www.richardfisher.com\ > > > I just tried that for the first time. I think that's what one should do as well. Kent |
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![]() "Paul M. Cook" > wrote in message ... > > wrote in message > ... >> Or a rib roast. I have a 4.5 pound certified angus bone in rib roast for >> tomorrow night. Given what it cost me, I'd like it to come out perfect. >> I >> Googled prime rib cooking and came up with too many different ways. High >> heat, >> low heat, long time, short time. I don't want to experiment with this. >> Can >> anyone point me in the right direction?Of course, I have a feeling I'll >> get >> those who think high heat, low heat, long time, short time. :-) >> Thanks. > > Dry the roast in the fridge for 2-3 days. Keep covered but allow air to > circulate. To cook: oven at 450. Put some water in the pan to keep it > from getting smokey as the fat cooks off. Pat the roast thoroughly with > kosher salt and fresh ground pepper. Use a LOT. I've never found the need > for any more seasoning. Into the oven for 30 minutes then turn down to > 325 @ 20 minutes per pound for a medium rare. I like to leave the rib > bones on and then cut free when ready to serve. If you use a thermometer > remember to take the roast our 15 degrees before the target temperature. > So 120 in this case. > >> Oh, and another question. I only have one oven. How could I make >> Yorkshire >> pudding or popovers while cooking the roast with the temperatures >> required so >> different. Or can/should I? > > They are not popovers, completely different. Use the roast resting time > to cook the puddings. Have the batter ready 30 minutes before the roast > comes out. Whip air into the egg/milk mixture then add flour but do not > mix aggressively. Start with warm eggs. Remove roast, cover to rest. > Raise the oven temp to 425 while preparing the muffin pan. Add 1 > tablespoon of the fat from the roast to each cup, swirl it around really > well and then into the oven until it is *screaming hot.* Now pour your > batter into each cup, 3/4 full, as fast as you can. I use my Pyrex mixer > for this as it is easy to pour. Back into the oven for 20-25 minutes. > The trick is hot hot hot and more hot. Also, a non-stick muffin pan is > best. > > Good luck. > > We do the same, except in one pan. It's important that the roast must rest for 30 minutes after cooking. During that time you make your Yorkshire Pudding. |
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Michael OConnor wrote:
> The way I've always done it is cooked it at 500 for 5 minutes a pound, > then turn the oven off and let it sit it the oven for two hours (do > not open the door). If the internal temperature is not 135 degrees C, > turn the oven up to 375 and cook it until it reaches 135, but it's > usually doesn't take an additional 20 minutes to get it to 135. Let > it sit for 15 minutes, then start carving. Before cooking I rub it > down with a little olive oil then Montreal Steak seasoning. Except for the seasoning, this is exactly the original high temp method of roasting the beef. Works beautifully, but a lot of shrinkage. I never minded since it tastes so good, looks so good, cooks so easily and is always perfect. pavane |
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On 4/21/2012 5:42 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> On Sat, 21 Apr 2012 11:46:08 -1000, dsi1 wrote: > >> You'll have different responses from guys that think their method is the >> best so the reality is that you'd have to pick one anyway. I won't give >> you my method because I don't need the grief from people that think >> their method is the best and my method is stupid. :-) > > All that guessing you do and you don't want to express your opinions > on cooking a rib roast? > > -sw You're losing your touch. I've already discussed this exhaustively on this NG. There's no point in me adding to the chatter. Just Google it. In your case - just Bing it. Ahahahahahaha! |
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On 4/21/2012 6:25 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> On Sat, 21 Apr 2012 17:48:09 -1000, dsi1 wrote: > >> On 4/21/2012 5:42 PM, Sqwertz wrote: >>> On Sat, 21 Apr 2012 11:46:08 -1000, dsi1 wrote: >>> >>>> You'll have different responses from guys that think their method is the >>>> best so the reality is that you'd have to pick one anyway. I won't give >>>> you my method because I don't need the grief from people that think >>>> their method is the best and my method is stupid. :-) >>> >>> All that guessing you do and you don't want to express your opinions >>> on cooking a rib roast? >> >> You're losing your touch. I've already discussed this exhaustively on >> this NG. There's no point in me adding to the chatter. Just Google it. >> In your case - just Bing it. Ahahahahahaha! > > http://groups.google.com/group/rec.f...1?dmode=source > > I'm not impressed. You guessed wrong. > > -sw You just need to do more research Google-boy. I thought you had everything archived and indexed. I'm so not impressed. You disappoint me. |
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On 4/21/2012 3:27 PM, Michael OConnor wrote:
> The way I've always done it is cooked it at 500 for 5 minutes a pound, > then turn the oven off and let it sit it the oven for two hours (do > not open the door). If the internal temperature is not 135 degrees C, > turn the oven up to 375 and cook it until it reaches 135, but it's > usually doesn't take an additional 20 minutes to get it to 135. Let > it sit for 15 minutes, then start carving. Before cooking I rub it > down with a little olive oil then Montreal Steak seasoning. I've never heard of this method before. I think I'll try it. Thanks! |
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On Apr 21, 7:37*pm, Sqwertz > wrote:
> On Sat, 21 Apr 2012 18:44:05 -1000, dsi1 wrote: > > On 4/21/2012 6:25 PM, Sqwertz wrote: > >> On Sat, 21 Apr 2012 17:48:09 -1000, dsi1 wrote: > > >>> On 4/21/2012 5:42 PM, Sqwertz wrote: > >>>> On Sat, 21 Apr 2012 11:46:08 -1000, dsi1 wrote: > > >>>>> You'll have different responses from guys that think their method is the > >>>>> best so the reality is that you'd have to pick one anyway. I won't give > >>>>> you my method because I don't need the grief from people that think > >>>>> their method is the best and my method is stupid. :-) > > >>>> All that guessing you do and you don't want to express your opinions > >>>> on cooking a rib roast? > > >>> You're losing your touch. I've already discussed this exhaustively on > >>> this NG. There's no point in me adding to the chatter. Just Google it.. > >>> In your case - just Bing it. Ahahahahahaha! > > >>http://groups.google.com/group/rec.f...a021142a04a21?.... > > >> I'm not impressed. *You guessed wrong. > > > You just need to do more research Google-boy. I thought you had > > everything archived and indexed. I'm so not impressed. You disappoint me. > > After that stupid comment you made about "temperature doesn't make a > difference" I have no desire to see what other stupidity you have > recommended. **I* already know how to cook a rib roast (and I of > course have the pictures to prove it). > > I was just surprised how tight-lipped you were. > > -sw This subject has been covered many times in this group - genius. You like to tell others to search the archives but you can't do the simplest of searches. So much your all your "archiving" of this and other groups on your stinking hard drives. I guess that makes all the shit on your drives worthless. The king of Usenet strikes out again. I'll let you be the one to endlessly post redundant material. Just don't expect me to. |
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"Kent" > wrote:
-snip- > >Just a preparation suggestion: > >Cut the ribs away from the roast. Cut the fat off in one piece. >Season the meat. Tie the fat and ribs back in place. After cooking, >remove the ribs and fat and carve. Save the ribs for another time. > >http://www.richardfisher.com\ I have the butcher make those cuts. Makes him feel important-- But then I un-tie it and smear a few cloves of garlic on the meat- some on the bone side, and some on the fat side- re-tie and continue. Then I go with the Julia Child method-- hot/warm. Mine rests for an hour on the stove while I crank up the oven for bread and such. Jim |
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dsi1 wrote:
> > After that stupid comment you made about "temperature doesn't make a > > difference" I have no desire to see what other stupidity you have > > recommended. **I* already know how to cook a rib roast (and I of > > course have the pictures to prove it). > This subject has been covered many times in this group - genius. You > like to tell others to search the archives but you can't do the > simplest of searches. So much your all your "archiving" of this and > other groups on your stinking hard drives. I guess that makes all the > shit on your drives worthless. The king of Usenet strikes out again. > I'll let you be the one to endlessly post redundant material. Just > don't expect me to. I wonder how sqwishy learned to cook in the first place. Certain other posters appear learning-disabled. |
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![]() > wrote in message ... > Or a rib roast. I have a 4.5 pound certified angus bone in rib roast for > tomorrow night. Given what it cost me, I'd like it to come out perfect. I > Googled prime rib cooking and came up with too many different ways. High > heat, > low heat, long time, short time. I don't want to experiment with this. Can > anyone point me in the right direction?Of course, I have a feeling I'll > get > those who think high heat, low heat, long time, short time. :-) > Thanks. > > Oh, and another question. I only have one oven. How could I make Yorkshire > pudding or popovers while cooking the roast with the temperatures required > so > different. Or can/should I? > > I've always done the hi temp first. followed by the low temp, although all of our standing ribs are done on the Weber kettle indirectly. I start at about 375F and almost immediately close vents so the temp. coasts down to about 250F. Recently I tried a 250F roast from start to finish and the result was excellent, with edge to edge pink. There was plenty of fat rendering and a decent bark on the cut surfaces of the roast. You should slather some fat on the cut ends before cooking. I always use bacon fat. Always stop about five degrees short of your final temprature. Always let it rest foil covered in a warm place for 30 minutes so the temp can equilibrate. During that time you make your Yorkshire pudding. Always use a drip pan underneath to catch drippings, and include some of the granules with the Yorkie. Start your oven at 400F, and immediately drop to 375F. Do not open the oven door for 25 minutes. Do not put too much dripping fat in the baking pan. The Yorkie must rise above above the oil in the pan. Always make Yorkshire pudding. It's very simple. It makes up part of the grandeur of the dish. Kent |
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On 4/22/2012 5:10 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
> On Sun, 22 Apr 2012 03:43:26 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 wrote: > >> On Apr 21, 7:37 pm, > wrote: >>> On Sat, 21 Apr 2012 18:44:05 -1000, dsi1 wrote: >>>> On 4/21/2012 6:25 PM, Sqwertz wrote: >>>>> On Sat, 21 Apr 2012 17:48:09 -1000, dsi1 wrote: >>> >>>>>> On 4/21/2012 5:42 PM, Sqwertz wrote: >>>>>>> On Sat, 21 Apr 2012 11:46:08 -1000, dsi1 wrote: >>> >>>>>>>> You'll have different responses from guys that think their method is the >>>>>>>> best so the reality is that you'd have to pick one anyway. I won't give >>>>>>>> you my method because I don't need the grief from people that think >>>>>>>> their method is the best and my method is stupid. :-) >>> >>>>>>> All that guessing you do and you don't want to express your opinions >>>>>>> on cooking a rib roast? >>> >>>>>> You're losing your touch. I've already discussed this exhaustively on >>>>>> this NG. There's no point in me adding to the chatter. Just Google it. >>>>>> In your case - just Bing it. Ahahahahahaha! >>> >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/rec.f...a021142a04a21?... >>> >>>>> I'm not impressed. You guessed wrong. >>> >>>> You just need to do more research Google-boy. I thought you had >>>> everything archived and indexed. I'm so not impressed. You disappoint me. >>> >>> After that stupid comment you made about "temperature doesn't make a >>> difference" I have no desire to see what other stupidity you have >>> recommended. *I* already know how to cook a rib roast (and I of >>> course have the pictures to prove it). >>> >>> I was just surprised how tight-lipped you were. >> >> This subject has been covered many times in this group - genius. You >> like to tell others to search the archives but you can't do the >> simplest of searches. > > I'll say it again slightly differently. Read this slowly while using > your index finger to point to the words: > > You have me confused with somebody that WANTS to see your method of > cooking prime rib. > > Now go find some other tangent to go off on, eh? > > -sw I know exactly why you initiated this little chat - you wanted some attention from little old me. Happy now? :-) |
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On Apr 22, 3:16*am, George M. Middius > wrote:
> dsi1 wrote: > > > After that stupid comment you made about "temperature doesn't make a > > > difference" I have no desire to see what other stupidity you have > > > recommended. **I* already know how to cook a rib roast (and I of > > > course have the pictures to prove it). > > This subject has been covered many times in this group - genius. You > > like to tell others to search the archives but you can't do the > > simplest of searches. So much your all your "archiving" of this and > > other groups on your stinking hard drives. I guess that makes all the > > shit on your drives worthless. *The king of Usenet strikes out again. > > I'll let you be the one to endlessly post redundant material. Just > > don't expect me to. > > I wonder how sqwishy learned to cook in the first place. Certain other > posters appear learning-disabled. The reality is that it was a setup to tell me that he wasn't interested in what I have to say. Nutty as heck. That's the way a guy with the emotional development of a 6 year old acts. There's a least one in every newsgroup it seems. This group is especially blessed. :-) My method was to brown the meat first and then cook at a really low temperature. This was not received well. That's OK since I tend to try new things. OTOH, some of the ideas posted to this thread are interesting and I will try these other methods. . |
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> Or a rib roast. I have a 4.5 pound certified angus bone in rib roast for > tomorrow night. Given what it cost me, I'd like it to come out perfect. I > Googled prime rib cooking and came up with too many different ways. High heat, > low heat, long time, short time. I don't want to experiment with this. Can > anyone point me in the right direction?Of course, I have a feeling I'll get > those who think high heat, low heat, long time, short time. :-) See <http://groups.google.com/group/rec.food.cooking/msg/52874af7051fafcb> and <http://groups.google.com/group/rec.food.cooking/msg/8c7743e7face337c> Victor |
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I have a question that, Can I cook a standing rib roast in a roaster oven? I want to reserve my actual oven for rest of the meal items, but don't want to ruin this nice roast.
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