Janet Bostwick wrote:
>
> Gary wrote:
> >Strongly disagree. It's not a hygiene thing. Opening your windows will
> >invite the mold spores in. Once they get on your open loaf of bread, it's a
> >race between them showing up and you eating it all first.
> >
> >Gary
>
> Welcome to the world of education. Have you never worked with food
> service when the Health Dept. came in with their yearly show and tell
> and lecture.? You know, when they have you touch your finger to a
> petri dish, blow on another dish, and lay a cigarette butt on another?
> -- and then show you the results after 24 hours? You get these
> totally gross, hairy, fuzzy, black, green or gray spots growing out
> from the point of contamination. That's not mold spores floating in
> from an open door. It is poor hygiene. Do you understand cross
> contamination? It doesn't only have to do with beef and chicken, you
> know.
> Janet US

I understand cross contamination and I'll grant you that point.
My point is that mold spores are in the air and will get on your hands too.
Protect your bread from all as much as possible.

It works for me. Perhaps YOU need to practice better hygiene?

Gary

On 2012-05-18 21:23:13 +0000, Nancy2 said:

> On May 18, 11:32*am, gtr > wrote:
>> Relating this discussion to my food-preservationist wife she offers her
>> opinions on every facet. *Living in palm desert she says it doesn't
>> make any difference what you do with bread it dries out be the time you
>> finish eating your sandwich. *Other physics screw you in the humidity
>> of Costa Rica.
>>
>> "The way" of bread is to buy it fresh and eat it, citing the way folks
>> make a daily run for tortillas in Mexico, French bread in France or
>> Vietnam and sangak or barbari in Iran (or in Irvine/Yorba Linda!).
>>
>> Her point is well made: There is fresh bread and then there is everything else.
>
> But her point is not well made here in the US, where the corner
> market, bodega, or mom-n-pop store has long been missing from most
> residential areas. It is not practical for many of us to go the store
> multiple times a week when we have to drive there.

Her point didn't factor in convenience. Hell if it did WE'D be buying
fresh bread daily.

I saw a show about Beirut a number of years ago and how the bakeries
simply HAD to go back to work while things were still screwed up. And
people would make these "serpentine" runs to get bread, frequently
without money.

On 2012-05-18 20:12:49 +0000, Gary said:

> Strongly disagree. It's not a hygiene thing.

Before you say that you should consdier the hygience of those who think
it is the main problem. You may be appalled and want to reconfigure
your thinking.

> You know, when they have you touch your finger to a
> petri dish, blow on another dish, and lay a cigarette butt on another?
> -- and then show you the results after 24 hours? You get these
> totally gross, hairy, fuzzy, black, green or gray spots growing out
> from the point of contamination.

Right, right. We're not supposed to eat those?

On 2012-05-18 21:56:19 +0000, Julie Bove said:

> If that's the case then it wasn't *MY* poor hygeine seeing as how I had
> to throw out THREE packages of bread that were never opened.

I'm rethinking all of this. Are we not supposed to store our bread and
snacks in the bathroom? I mean we EAT most of them there, right? So I
just thought it would be easier to store them there by the TP.

On 5/18/2012 6:33 PM, gtr wrote:
> On 2012-05-18 21:56:19 +0000, Julie Bove said:
>
>> If that's the case then it wasn't *MY* poor hygeine seeing as how I
>> had to throw out THREE packages of bread that were never opened.
>
> I'm rethinking all of this. Are we not supposed to store our bread and
> snacks in the bathroom? I mean we EAT most of them there, right? So I
> just thought it would be easier to store them there by the TP.
>
>
I do sometimes find mold on even frozen pita breads but freezing *does*
inhibit the growth of mold and most breads can be frozen. I don't think
just putting bread in the fridge does much good.

--
Jim Silverton (Potomac, MD)

Extraneous "not" in Reply To.

On 18/05/2012 6:42 PM, James Silverton wrote:

> I do sometimes find mold on even frozen pita breads but freezing *does*
> inhibit the growth of mold and most breads can be frozen. I don't think
> just putting bread in the fridge does much good.
>

Since a loaf of bread lasts at least a week in our house, I usually
stick it right in the freezer. If I get it in the morning I leave a
couple slices out of sandwich at lunch time. I realize that once it is
frozen it is never going to be as good as it was fresh, but it will
taste fresher after a week or two in the fridge than it would have if I
had left it out.

In article >, says...
>
> Sqwertz wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, 18 May 2012 07:21:56 -0700, Julie Bove wrote:
> >
> > > "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > >
> > >> Tell your daughter to wash her dirty, Milk Dud soaked hands more often
> > >> - especially before fondling all the bread in the package trying to
> > >> find that one acceptable pita.
> > >
> > > She doesn't eat Milk Duds or get into the bread.
> >
> > Oh that's right. She just smashes them into the carpet and kitchen
> > floor for you to clean up. Whatever. She still handled them.
> >
> > Dirty environments make for moldy bread.
> >
> > -sw
>
> Strongly disagree. It's not a hygiene thing. Opening your windows will
> invite the mold spores in.

Nope, opening windows lets fresh air in and mould spores out.

Janet

In article >, says...

> If that's the case then it wasn't *MY* poor hygeine seeing as how I had
to
> throw out THREE packages of bread that were never opened.

Since you shop seven times a week and your family hardly eats any bread
why on earth do you buy three loaves at once ? No wonder they don't keep.

Janet

gtr wrote:

> > If that's the case then it wasn't *MY* poor hygeine seeing as how I had
> > to throw out THREE packages of bread that were never opened.
>
> I'm rethinking all of this. Are we not supposed to store our bread and
> snacks in the bathroom? I mean we EAT most of them there, right? So I
> just thought it would be easier to store them there by the TP.

Julie's world reminds me that life often imitates art.

<http://www.allmovie.com/movie/idiocracy-v307879>

Sqwertz wrote:

> > Well the kitchen isn't dirty! I used the steam mop.
>
> On the whole kitchen?

Yes, including the cat box.

In article >, says...
>
> Gary > wrote:
>
> > Andy wrote:
> >>
> >> All breads get frozen and then migrate to the fridge as needed.
> >>
> >> I figured it's only purpose was to not feed the mice and bats.
> >>
> >> Andy
> >
> > The bats? :-O
>
>
> Sure. I've caught bats in almost every place I've lived.

Bats eat insects, not sandwiches.

Janet

Nancy2 > wrote:

>On May 18, 11:32*am, gtr > wrote:
>> Relating this discussion to my food-preservationist wife she offers her
>> opinions on every facet. *Living in palm desert she says it doesn't
>> make any difference what you do with bread it dries out be the time you
>> finish eating your sandwich. *Other physics screw you in the humidity
>> of Costa Rica.
>>
>> "The way" of bread is to buy it fresh and eat it, citing the way folks
>> make a daily run for tortillas in Mexico, French bread in France or
>> Vietnam and sangak or barbari in Iran (or in Irvine/Yorba Linda!).
>>
>> Her point is well made: There is fresh bread and then there is
>everything else.
>
>But her point is not well made here in the US, where the corner
>market, bodega, or mom-n-pop store has long been missing from most
>residential areas. It is not practical for many of us to go the store
>multiple times a week when we have to drive there.

How unusual then that I have have a bakery three minutes walk away
from my house, another one 0.8 miles away.

That's not counting Mexican bakeries which are all over the place.

Conversely, one could live in the middle of nowhere in France and
not be near a bakery. So I think it's more of an urban vs. rural
thing, then it is a deficiency of the U.S. (although there is also
some of that going on).



Steve

"Sqwertz" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 18 May 2012 14:52:28 -0700, Julie Bove wrote:
>
>> Well the kitchen isn't dirty! I used the steam mop.
>
> On the whole kitchen?

On the floor. On the spots that looked like they needed it. Regular mop on
the rest. Of the floor of course. Counter cleaner or wood cleaner
elsewhere, depending on the surface.

"George M. Middius" > wrote in message
...
> Sqwertz wrote:
>
>> > Well the kitchen isn't dirty! I used the steam mop.
>>
>> On the whole kitchen?
>
> Yes, including the cat box.


There is no cat box in my kitchen!

"Nancy2" <Another issue that isn't rocket science. The bread is getting
moldy
because you too much humidity/heat where you store it. I have a
stainless steel breadbox inside an upper cupboard - no problems. If
it's a fresh baked item that I know doesn't have preservatives in it,
I keep it double bagged in the refrigerator.

I'm with you Nancy. This has been an interesting thread. I keep our bread
double-bagged ( I use the bags that come inside cereal boxes; good stuff!)
in the refrigerator. The humidity here is usually somewhere between very
high and under water. Polly

"Janet" > wrote in message
...
> In article >, says...
>
>> If that's the case then it wasn't *MY* poor hygeine seeing as how I had
> to
>> throw out THREE packages of bread that were never opened.
>
> Since you shop seven times a week and your family hardly eats any bread
> why on earth do you buy three loaves at once ? No wonder they don't keep.

OMFG! I didn't BUY three at once! I said I had to throw three out! I
bought two packages the first week that my daughter was allowed to have 3
servings of carbs per day. There are only 5 pieces per package and I was
eating 5 a week myself.

I might shop seven times a week but not all at grocery stores. And the
store where I buy the Flatbread is in another city where I go only once a
week. Yes, other stores have Flatbread but I can't have it because it has
milk in it. I didn't buy any Flatbread today. I bought Pita. Same brand
but whole wheat which I have not bought before. We'll see how it goes.

"Sqwertz" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 19 May 2012 00:02:33 +0100, Janet wrote:
>
>> In article >, says...
>>
>>> If that's the case then it wasn't *MY* poor hygeine seeing as how I had
>> to
>>> throw out THREE packages of bread that were never opened.
>>
>> Since you shop seven times a week and your family hardly eats any bread
>> why on earth do you buy three loaves at once ? No wonder they don't keep.
>
> I suspect she bought them sequentially. Why she bought them and held
> onto them until they went south, without opening, then continued to
> buy more is the sign of well... somebody who doesn't learn from
> mistakes.

Nobody seems to get what I am saying! They went South long before they are
expired! The company is doing something wrong. Putting the wrong
expiration dates on them? Not using the right recipe? Bagging them wrong?
I don't know. Four times I had bread that was moldy before its time. I
assumed it was a fluke the first couple of times. But I no longer assume
that. But why the whole wheat bread and not the other?

"gtr" > wrote in message news:2012051815304848696-xxx@yyyzzz...
> On 2012-05-18 20:12:49 +0000, Gary said:
>
>> Strongly disagree. It's not a hygiene thing.
>
> Before you say that you should consdier the hygience of those who think it
> is the main problem. You may be appalled and want to reconfigure your
> thinking.

Um... No. Don't forget...my husband is in the military. He does white
glove inspections.

"Steve Pope" > wrote in message
...
> Nancy2 > wrote:
>
>>On May 18, 11:32 am, gtr > wrote:
>>> Relating this discussion to my food-preservationist wife she offers her
>>> opinions on every facet. Living in palm desert she says it doesn't
>>> make any difference what you do with bread it dries out be the time you
>>> finish eating your sandwich. Other physics screw you in the humidity
>>> of Costa Rica.
>>>
>>> "The way" of bread is to buy it fresh and eat it, citing the way folks
>>> make a daily run for tortillas in Mexico, French bread in France or
>>> Vietnam and sangak or barbari in Iran (or in Irvine/Yorba Linda!).
>>>
>>> Her point is well made: There is fresh bread and then there is
>>everything else.
>>
>>But her point is not well made here in the US, where the corner
>>market, bodega, or mom-n-pop store has long been missing from most
>>residential areas. It is not practical for many of us to go the store
>>multiple times a week when we have to drive there.
>
> How unusual then that I have have a bakery three minutes walk away
> from my house, another one 0.8 miles away.
>
> That's not counting Mexican bakeries which are all over the place.
>
> Conversely, one could live in the middle of nowhere in France and
> not be near a bakery. So I think it's more of an urban vs. rural
> thing, then it is a deficiency of the U.S. (although there is also
> some of that going on).
>
>
>
> Steve

Do you live in the city? Precious few bakeries out here in the 'burbs.

On May 18, 2:52*pm, "Julie Bove" > wrote:
> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
>
> ...> On Fri, 18 May 2012 07:21:56 -0700, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> >> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
> ...
>
> >>> Tell your daughter to wash her dirty, Milk Dud soaked hands more often
> >>> - especially before fondling all the bread in the package trying to
> >>> find that one acceptable pita.
>
> >> She doesn't eat Milk Duds or get into the bread.
>
> > Oh that's right. *She just smashes them into the carpet and kitchen
> > floor for you to clean up. *Whatever. *She still handled them.
>
> It was Junior Mints.
>
> > Dirty environments make for moldy bread.
>
> Well the kitchen isn't dirty! *I used the steam mop.

Obviously the mold was sealed in at the bakery, because you hadn't
opened the factory-sealed packages.

Julie Bove wrote:

> >> > Well the kitchen isn't dirty! I used the steam mop.
> >>
> >> On the whole kitchen?
> >
> > Yes, including the cat box.

> There is no cat box in my kitchen!

Then why did you steam-clean it?

Julie Bove wrote:

> But why the whole wheat bread and not the other?

Why do you keep buying a product that turns bad before its time?

"spamtrap1888" > wrote in message
...
On May 18, 2:52 pm, "Julie Bove" > wrote:
> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
>
> ...> On Fri, 18 May 2012 07:21:56 -0700,
> Julie Bove wrote:
>
> >> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
> ...
>
> >>> Tell your daughter to wash her dirty, Milk Dud soaked hands more often
> >>> - especially before fondling all the bread in the package trying to
> >>> find that one acceptable pita.
>
> >> She doesn't eat Milk Duds or get into the bread.
>
> > Oh that's right. She just smashes them into the carpet and kitchen
> > floor for you to clean up. Whatever. She still handled them.
>
> It was Junior Mints.
>
> > Dirty environments make for moldy bread.
>
> Well the kitchen isn't dirty! I used the steam mop.

Obviously the mold was sealed in at the bakery, because you hadn't
opened the factory-sealed packages.

Seems that way. Yes.

"George M. Middius" > wrote in message
...
> Julie Bove wrote:
>
>> >> > Well the kitchen isn't dirty! I used the steam mop.
>> >>
>> >> On the whole kitchen?
>> >
>> > Yes, including the cat box.
>
>> There is no cat box in my kitchen!
>
> Then why did you steam-clean it?

I didn't!
>
>

"George M. Middius" > wrote in message
...
> Julie Bove wrote:
>
>> But why the whole wheat bread and not the other?
>
> Why do you keep buying a product that turns bad before its time?

Let me explain it again. I had been buying the white flatbread for some
long time. No problems. But my daughter has to eat whole wheat. So I
began buying the whole wheat. There has been a problem with that every time
I bought it. Why? I don't know. I didn't buy it this week. I bought the
pita but in the whole wheat. I will see how that goes.

I tried doing a search to see if whole wheat goes moldy faster than white
but only turned up that the opposite was true.

The only other bread I've ever bought that went moldy before it was expired
was the Flax from Silver Hills. I quit buying that too.

Janet wrote:
>
> In article >, says...
> >
> > Sqwertz wrote:
> > >
> > > On Fri, 18 May 2012 07:21:56 -0700, Julie Bove wrote:
> > >
> > > > "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
> > > > ...
> > > >
> > > >> Tell your daughter to wash her dirty, Milk Dud soaked hands more often
> > > >> - especially before fondling all the bread in the package trying to
> > > >> find that one acceptable pita.
> > > >
> > > > She doesn't eat Milk Duds or get into the bread.
> > >
> > > Oh that's right. She just smashes them into the carpet and kitchen
> > > floor for you to clean up. Whatever. She still handled them.
> > >
> > > Dirty environments make for moldy bread.
> > >
> > > -sw
> >
> > Strongly disagree. It's not a hygiene thing. Opening your windows will
> > invite the mold spores in.
>
> Nope, opening windows lets fresh air in and mould spores out.
>
> Janet

Mold spores are everywhere. Opening windows would let some out but also
would probably let in some new ones. I like opening windows though...I do
that every day mostly.

Gary

On 2012-05-19 03:31:12 +0000, Julie Bove said:

> "gtr" > wrote in message news:2012051815304848696-xxx@yyyzzz...
>> On 2012-05-18 20:12:49 +0000, Gary said:
>>
>>> Strongly disagree. It's not a hygiene thing.
>>
>> Before you say that you should consdier the hygience of those who think
>> it is the main problem. You may be appalled and want to reconfigure
>> your thinking.
>
> Um... No. Don't forget...my husband is in the military. He does
> white glove inspections.

What? Does he think the hygiene is the main problem?

thank god you didn't ask him what he thought the proper bathing process
is... lol, Lee


"Julie Bove" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Brooklyn1" <Gravesend1> wrote in message
> ...
>> On Fri, 18 May 2012 07:42:24 -0500, Sqwertz >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>On Fri, 18 May 2012 00:08:54 -0700, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>>> I ask because my Greek Flatbread got moldy again! It does not expire
>>>> until
>>>> the 23rd. My honey whole wheat bread from Costco is perfectly fine.
>>>>
>>>> I have written to the manufacturer about the bread. That would be
>>>> Alexis.
>>>> Because not only was it moldy but crumbly like it was spoiled. The
>>>> ingredient list says they put Calcium Propionate and Potassium Sorbate
>>>> to
>>>> control spoilage. But apparently those things are not working!
>>>
>>>Tell your daughter to wash her dirty, Milk Dud soaked hands more often
>>>- especially before fondling all the bread in the package trying to
>>>find that one acceptable pita.
>>>
>>>I've been guilty of that, too. When I see mold spots the same pattern
>>>as fingerprints I reminded myself to handle the bread before I start
>>>slicing up a bunch of meat.
>>>
>>>I never understood how breadboxes are supposed to keep bread fresher
>>>if the bread is in plastic bags. The temp is the same as outside the
>>>box and airflow is restricted - which may be good or bad. But in
>>>mostly impermeable plastic bags, what difference does it make?
>>
>> Not everyone eats the kind of bread that's sold in plastic bags.
>> Breadboxes are from a time long before plastic and even long before
>> refrigeration. Breadboxes were originally devised much more to keep
>> bread clean and to protect it from vermine, not so much to maintain
>> freshness. Bread molding is primarily from poor sanitary habits...
>> those whose bread is regularly molding have poor personal hygiene
>> habits, simple as that. Slobs don't even know they are slobs... most
>> people have very poor food handling practices, most people don't even
>> know how to bathe properly.
>
> Nonsense! I never opened the package and the bread was still moldy.
> OTOH, the honey wheat which I have opened and handled numerous times has
> no mold. Ditto for the English Muffins that we had last week. Daughter
> handled them. No mold. And yet the Greek bread went moldy.
>
> I am thinking they either bagged it when it was warm or they failed to put
> the ingredients in it to keep it from going moldy.
>

this one is one you need to ignore, it seems he is just misunderstanding you
on purpose to get a rise out of you, Lee
"Julie Bove" > wrote in message
...
>
> "George M. Middius" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>>> But why the whole wheat bread and not the other?
>>
>> Why do you keep buying a product that turns bad before its time?
>
> Let me explain it again. I had been buying the white flatbread for some
> long time. No problems. But my daughter has to eat whole wheat. So I
> began buying the whole wheat. There has been a problem with that every
> time I bought it. Why? I don't know. I didn't buy it this week. I
> bought the pita but in the whole wheat. I will see how that goes.
>
> I tried doing a search to see if whole wheat goes moldy faster than white
> but only turned up that the opposite was true.
>
> The only other bread I've ever bought that went moldy before it was
> expired was the Flax from Silver Hills. I quit buying that too.
>

let us know how it works, Lee
"Julie Bove" > wrote in message
...
> Helpful person wrote:
>> On May 18, 9:36 am, Roy > wrote:
>>> On Friday, May 18, 2012 1:08:54 AM UTC-6, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>> Bread Boxes are so 19th century. Freezers and refrigerators have
>>> replaced them long ago. No thinking person uses them today unless
>>> they have rats as big as cats. Most air has natural mold
>>> spores...keep bread in plastic bags and handle in with clean hands
>>> or sterile paper towels or cloths to avoid contamination. Most
>>> bakery bread comes with its load of mold built right in. Commercial
>>> bakeries use chemicals in their bread to deter mold but it cannot
>>> get it all or the dosage required to do so would affect people's
>>> health.
>>
>> Good advice if all you eat is Wonderbread. Refrigeration, plastic and
>> pre sliced are the enemies of good bread. It should be stored in a
>> box with a small amount of ventilation. The ventilation inhibits mold
>> and restricting the ventilation reduces the drying process.
>>
>> If you live in very high or very low humidity then unfortunately there
>> is not much to be done, except eat it quickly.
>>
>> http:www.richardfisher.com
>
> Thanks! Looks like I got the right box then.
>

On 5/18/2012 1:15 PM, George M. Middius wrote:
> gtr wrote:
>
>> "The way" of bread is to buy it fresh and eat it, citing the way folks
>> make a daily run for tortillas in Mexico, French bread in France or
>> Vietnam and sangak or barbari in Iran (or in Irvine/Yorba Linda!).
>>
>> Her point is well made: There is fresh bread and then there is everything else.
>
> I often freeze bread. Then it has to be toasted, but that's not a
> drawback for me.
>

I use mostly rye bread for sandwiches and I find that just thawing it is
fine for me, though I will sometimes toast it. There are even times
I'll make a sandwich for work with frozen bread and it's thawed by lunch
time and none the worse for wear.

On 5/18/2012 5:56 PM, Julie Bove wrote:

> If that's the case then it wasn't*MY* poor hygeine seeing as how I had to
> throw out THREE packages of bread that were never opened.

Why would you have three packages of bread if you only like it fresh?

James Silverton > wrote:
> On 5/18/2012 6:33 PM, gtr wrote:
>> On 2012-05-18 21:56:19 +0000, Julie Bove said:
>>
>>> If that's the case then it wasn't *MY* poor hygeine seeing as how I
>>> had to throw out THREE packages of bread that were never opened.
>>
>> I'm rethinking all of this. Are we not supposed to store our bread and
>> snacks in the bathroom? I mean we EAT most of them there, right? So I
>> just thought it would be easier to store them there by the TP.
>>
>>
> I do sometimes find mold on even frozen pita breads but freezing *does*
> inhibit the growth of mold and most breads can be frozen. I don't think
> just putting bread in the fridge does much good.


I get at least twice the life in the fridge. If there is some leakage in
the package, it will dry more, and I'm ok with drying, and last even
longer.

Greg

Julie Bove > wrote:

>"Steve Pope" > wrote in message

>> Nancy2 > wrote:

>>>But her point is not well made here in the US, where the corner
>>>market, bodega, or mom-n-pop store has long been missing from most
>>>residential areas. It is not practical for many of us to go the store
>>>multiple times a week when we have to drive there.

>> How unusual then that I have have a bakery three minutes walk away
>> from my house, another one 0.8 miles away.

>> That's not counting Mexican bakeries which are all over the place.

>> Conversely, one could live in the middle of nowhere in France and
>> not be near a bakery. So I think it's more of an urban vs. rural
>> thing, then it is a deficiency of the U.S. (although there is also
>> some of that going on).

>Do you live in the city? Precious few bakeries out here in the 'burbs.

Yes, I do, and I agree.


S.

On May 18, 8:31*pm, "Julie Bove" > wrote:
> "gtr" > wrote in messagenews:2012051815304848696-xxx@yyyzzz....
> > On 2012-05-18 20:12:49 +0000, Gary said:
>
> >> Strongly disagree. *It's not a hygiene thing.
>
> > Before you say that you should consdier the hygience of those who think it
> > is the main problem. *You may be appalled and want to reconfigure your
> > thinking.
>
> Um... *No. *Don't forget...my husband is in the military. *He does white
> glove inspections.

Are you kidding?

"gtr" > wrote in message news:2012051908534437485-xxx@yyyzzz...
> On 2012-05-19 03:31:12 +0000, Julie Bove said:
>
>> "gtr" > wrote in message
>> news:2012051815304848696-xxx@yyyzzz...
>>> On 2012-05-18 20:12:49 +0000, Gary said:
>>>
>>>> Strongly disagree. It's not a hygiene thing.
>>>
>>> Before you say that you should consdier the hygience of those who think
>>> it is the main problem. You may be appalled and want to reconfigure
>>> your thinking.
>>
>> Um... No. Don't forget...my husband is in the military. He does white
>> glove inspections.
>
> What? Does he think the hygiene is the main problem?

No. He doesn't know there is a problem.

"Storrmmee" > wrote in message
...
> this one is one you need to ignore, it seems he is just misunderstanding
> you on purpose to get a rise out of you, Lee

I think so.

"Storrmmee" > wrote in message
...
> let us know how it works, Lee

I will.

"Cheryl" > wrote in message
.com...
> On 5/18/2012 5:56 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
>> If that's the case then it wasn't*MY* poor hygeine seeing as how I had
>> to
>> throw out THREE packages of bread that were never opened.
>
> Why would you have three packages of bread if you only like it fresh?

OMFG! I didn't buy three packages at once. And it wasn't even three
packages. But I had to throw out three whole packages.

I think the first two I bought went moldy when there was one slice left in
the package. 5 slices are in a package. The bread had an expiration date
of either that date or the day after. So I just figured they went moldy a
little early and didn't think anything more of it.

My daughter is on the South Beach diet. She was at the point where she
could eat 3 servings of whole grains per day. Since I myself can eat 5
pieces of bread in a week, I decided to buy TWO packages at once. I was
about to open one to make a hummus wrap when I noticed that all of the
pieces of bread in the unopened package were moldy. Very moldy. So I
looked at the second package and it was all moldy too. I don't remember the
exact date on the package now but I am pretty sure it was at least 5 days
until the expiration date. I just assumed that it had to be some sort of
fluke because as I said in my previous reply, I have been buying this same
brand of bread but in the white as opposed to the whole wheat (which this
bread was) and it never went moldy. I wound up eating my hummus on regular
whole wheat bread which is not something I can recommend. It just wasn't
very tasty.

So... I bought another package and it too went moldy before it was even
opened and there were several days until it expired.

I did *not* buy this same bread again this week but I did buy this same
brand in a pita bread, but again, whole wheat which is not what I normally
buy. I normally buy white pita bread. I will see how the whole wheat pita
holds up.