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> > Was in the mood for a thin crust pizza past few days and got one last > night. It was good, but not all that filling. Though that way I could > eat more. ![]() > carbs make me sleepy. Very sleepy. If I eat a lot of carbs in > general I can barely stay away 20-30 minutes later. With all due respect, your 3 slices of pizza made you sleepy, but you have no idea if it was the carbs. Carbs give you quick energy. Carbs will not make you sleeply unless you pig out. High fat can make you sleeply as your body has to work harder to digest. Overeating anything (including carbs) will make you sleepy. You probably had a lot of high fat toppings on that low carb thin crust. I know most of you seem to hate carbs but serious athletes don't and I don't either. Gary PS - I'm not out for another carb battle here where no one wins but I'm so tired of all this "carbs are evil crap." Carbs are NOT evil...that's what your body needs for fuel. And I'm talking about normal healthy people, not special cases like diabetics. |
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On Jun 14, 6:02*pm, Gary > wrote:
> somebody wrote: > > > Was in the mood for a thin crust pizza past few days and got one last > > night. *It was good, but not all that filling. Though that way I could > > eat more. ![]() > > carbs make me sleepy. *Very sleepy. *If I eat a lot of carbs in > > general I can barely stay away 20-30 minutes later. > > With all due respect, your 3 slices of pizza made you sleepy, > but you have no idea if it was the carbs. > > Carbs give you quick energy. > Carbs will not make you sleeply unless you pig out. > High fat can make you sleeply as your body has to work harder to digest. > Overeating anything (including carbs) will make you sleepy. > > You probably had a lot of high fat toppings on that low carb thin crust. > > I know most of you seem to hate carbs but serious athletes don't and I don't > either. > > Gary > > PS - I'm not out for another carb battle here where no one wins but I'm so > tired of all this "carbs are evil crap." *Carbs are NOT evil...that's what > your body needs for fuel. > > And I'm talking about normal healthy people, not special cases like > diabetics. actually I agree with you. And I used to be something of an athlete or tried to be. Rode my bike 30 miles then played doubles volleyball for a few hours on weekends. Not real high level, but above average... I don't believe carbs are evil at all. But they definitely effect me. It's not the fat. Actually I am vegetarian so not a lot of fat, though not vegan so do eat cheese which has fat. But I notice with things like spaghetti, peanut butter on whole wheat bread, fig newton, mushroom soup with egg noodles that I have a definite let down after 20-30 minutes. If I am active, not really so much but if I'm watching TV or trying to read a book, or sitting at work-- I have a hard time staying awake after eating even a moderate amount of carbs for lunch. I generally don't eat much carbs at lunch because I don't like how it effects me. Which is hard for me, because I really like to eat! |
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> On Jun 14, 6:02 pm, Gary > wrote: >> somebody wrote: >> >>> Was in the mood for a thin crust pizza past few days and got one >>> last night. It was good, but not all that filling. Though that way >>> I could eat more. ![]() >>> slices the carbs make me sleepy. Very sleepy. If I eat a lot of >>> carbs in general I can barely stay away 20-30 minutes later. >> >> With all due respect, your 3 slices of pizza made you sleepy, >> but you have no idea if it was the carbs. >> >> Carbs give you quick energy. >> Carbs will not make you sleeply unless you pig out. >> High fat can make you sleeply as your body has to work harder to >> digest. Overeating anything (including carbs) will make you sleepy. >> >> You probably had a lot of high fat toppings on that low carb thin >> crust. >> >> I know most of you seem to hate carbs but serious athletes don't and >> I don't either. >> >> Gary >> >> PS - I'm not out for another carb battle here where no one wins but >> I'm so tired of all this "carbs are evil crap." Carbs are NOT >> evil...that's what your body needs for fuel. >> >> And I'm talking about normal healthy people, not special cases like >> diabetics. > > actually I agree with you. And I used to be something of an athlete > or tried to be. Rode my bike 30 miles then played doubles volleyball > for a few hours on weekends. Not real high level, but above > average... I don't believe carbs are evil at all. But they > definitely effect me. It's not the fat. Actually I am vegetarian so > not a lot of fat, though not vegan so do eat cheese which has fat. > But I notice with things like spaghetti, peanut butter on whole wheat > bread, fig newton, mushroom soup with egg noodles that I have a > definite let down after 20-30 minutes. If I am active, not really so > much but if I'm watching TV or trying to read a book, or sitting at > work-- I have a hard time staying awake after eating even a moderate > amount of carbs for lunch. I generally don't eat much carbs at lunch > because I don't like how it effects me. Which is hard for me, because > I really like to eat! If carbs are affecting you that much you could have reactive hypoglycemia or diabetes. |
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On Jun 14, 10:21*pm, "Julie Bove" > wrote:
> somebody wrote: > > On Jun 14, 6:02 pm, Gary > wrote: > >> somebody wrote: > > >>> Was in the mood for a thin crust pizza past few days and got one > >>> last night. It was good, but not all that filling. Though that way > >>> I could eat more. ![]() > >>> slices the carbs make me sleepy. Very sleepy. If I eat a lot of > >>> carbs in general I can barely stay away 20-30 minutes later. > > >> With all due respect, your 3 slices of pizza made you sleepy, > >> but you have no idea if it was the carbs. > > >> Carbs give you quick energy. > >> Carbs will not make you sleeply unless you pig out. > >> High fat can make you sleeply as your body has to work harder to > >> digest. Overeating anything (including carbs) will make you sleepy. > > >> You probably had a lot of high fat toppings on that low carb thin > >> crust. > > >> I know most of you seem to hate carbs but serious athletes don't and > >> I don't either. > > >> Gary > > >> PS - I'm not out for another carb battle here where no one wins but > >> I'm so tired of all this "carbs are evil crap." Carbs are NOT > >> evil...that's what your body needs for fuel. > > >> And I'm talking about normal healthy people, not special cases like > >> diabetics. > > > actually I agree with you. *And I used to be something of an athlete > > or tried to be. *Rode my bike 30 miles then played doubles volleyball > > for a few hours on weekends. *Not real high level, but above > > average... *I don't believe carbs are evil at all. *But they > > definitely effect me. *It's not the fat. *Actually I am vegetarian so > > not a lot of fat, though not vegan so do eat cheese which has fat. > > But I notice with things like spaghetti, peanut butter on whole wheat > > bread, fig newton, mushroom soup with egg noodles that I have a > > definite let down after 20-30 minutes. *If I am active, not really so > > much but if I'm watching TV or trying to read a book, or sitting at > > work-- I have a hard time staying awake after eating even a moderate > > amount of carbs for lunch. *I generally don't eat much carbs at lunch > > because I don't like how it effects me. *Which is hard for me, because > > I really like to eat! > > If carbs are affecting you that much you could have reactive hypoglycemia or > diabetes. I've noticed the effect pretty much all my adult life. Also, msg effects me that way too, like in canned mushroom soup... I've been to a couple doctors over the years and they said I don't have symptoms for diabetes. I will have to look up reactive hypoglycemia. |
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> On Jun 14, 10:21 pm, "Julie Bove" > wrote: >> somebody wrote: >>> On Jun 14, 6:02 pm, Gary > wrote: >>>> somebody wrote: >> >>>>> Was in the mood for a thin crust pizza past few days and got one >>>>> last night. It was good, but not all that filling. Though that way >>>>> I could eat more. ![]() >>>>> slices the carbs make me sleepy. Very sleepy. If I eat a lot of >>>>> carbs in general I can barely stay away 20-30 minutes later. >> >>>> With all due respect, your 3 slices of pizza made you sleepy, >>>> but you have no idea if it was the carbs. >> >>>> Carbs give you quick energy. >>>> Carbs will not make you sleeply unless you pig out. >>>> High fat can make you sleeply as your body has to work harder to >>>> digest. Overeating anything (including carbs) will make you sleepy. >> >>>> You probably had a lot of high fat toppings on that low carb thin >>>> crust. >> >>>> I know most of you seem to hate carbs but serious athletes don't >>>> and I don't either. >> >>>> Gary >> >>>> PS - I'm not out for another carb battle here where no one wins but >>>> I'm so tired of all this "carbs are evil crap." Carbs are NOT >>>> evil...that's what your body needs for fuel. >> >>>> And I'm talking about normal healthy people, not special cases like >>>> diabetics. >> >>> actually I agree with you. And I used to be something of an athlete >>> or tried to be. Rode my bike 30 miles then played doubles volleyball >>> for a few hours on weekends. Not real high level, but above >>> average... I don't believe carbs are evil at all. But they >>> definitely effect me. It's not the fat. Actually I am vegetarian so >>> not a lot of fat, though not vegan so do eat cheese which has fat. >>> But I notice with things like spaghetti, peanut butter on whole >>> wheat bread, fig newton, mushroom soup with egg noodles that I have >>> a definite let down after 20-30 minutes. If I am active, not really >>> so much but if I'm watching TV or trying to read a book, or sitting >>> at work-- I have a hard time staying awake after eating even a >>> moderate amount of carbs for lunch. I generally don't eat much >>> carbs at lunch because I don't like how it effects me. Which is >>> hard for me, because I really like to eat! >> >> If carbs are affecting you that much you could have reactive >> hypoglycemia or diabetes. > > I've noticed the effect pretty much all my adult life. Also, msg > effects me that way too, like in canned mushroom soup... I've been to > a couple doctors over the years and they said I don't have symptoms > for diabetes. I will have to look up reactive hypoglycemia. Diabetes isn't diagnosed by symptoms. |
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On Jun 15, 11:29*pm, "Julie Bove" > wrote:
> somebody wrote: > > On Jun 14, 10:21 pm, "Julie Bove" > wrote: > >> somebody wrote: > >>> On Jun 14, 6:02 pm, Gary > wrote: > >>>> somebody wrote: > > >>>>> Was in the mood for a thin crust pizza past few days and got one > >>>>> last night. It was good, but not all that filling. Though that way > >>>>> I could eat more. ![]() > >>>>> slices the carbs make me sleepy. Very sleepy. If I eat a lot of > >>>>> carbs in general I can barely stay away 20-30 minutes later. > > >>>> With all due respect, your 3 slices of pizza made you sleepy, > >>>> but you have no idea if it was the carbs. > > >>>> Carbs give you quick energy. > >>>> Carbs will not make you sleeply unless you pig out. > >>>> High fat can make you sleeply as your body has to work harder to > >>>> digest. Overeating anything (including carbs) will make you sleepy. > > >>>> You probably had a lot of high fat toppings on that low carb thin > >>>> crust. > > >>>> I know most of you seem to hate carbs but serious athletes don't > >>>> and I don't either. > > >>>> Gary > > >>>> PS - I'm not out for another carb battle here where no one wins but > >>>> I'm so tired of all this "carbs are evil crap." Carbs are NOT > >>>> evil...that's what your body needs for fuel. > > >>>> And I'm talking about normal healthy people, not special cases like > >>>> diabetics. > > >>> actually I agree with you. And I used to be something of an athlete > >>> or tried to be. Rode my bike 30 miles then played doubles volleyball > >>> for a few hours on weekends. Not real high level, but above > >>> average... I don't believe carbs are evil at all. But they > >>> definitely effect me. It's not the fat. Actually I am vegetarian so > >>> not a lot of fat, though not vegan so do eat cheese which has fat. > >>> But I notice with things like spaghetti, peanut butter on whole > >>> wheat bread, fig newton, mushroom soup with egg noodles that I have > >>> a definite let down after 20-30 minutes. If I am active, not really > >>> so much but if I'm watching TV or trying to read a book, or sitting > >>> at work-- I have a hard time staying awake after eating even a > >>> moderate amount of carbs for lunch. I generally don't eat much > >>> carbs at lunch because I don't like how it effects me. Which is > >>> hard for me, because I really like to eat! > > >> If carbs are affecting you that much you could have reactive > >> hypoglycemia or diabetes. > > > I've noticed the effect pretty much all my adult life. *Also, msg > > effects me that way too, like in canned mushroom soup... *I've been to > > a couple doctors over the years and they said I don't have symptoms > > for diabetes. *I will have to look up reactive hypoglycemia. > > Diabetes isn't diagnosed by symptoms. How is it diagnosed then? If you say by testing, then should everyone be tested? |
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> On Jun 15, 11:29 pm, "Julie Bove" > wrote: >> somebody wrote: >>> On Jun 14, 10:21 pm, "Julie Bove" > wrote: >>>> somebody wrote: >>>>> On Jun 14, 6:02 pm, Gary > wrote: >>>>>> somebody wrote: >> >>>>>>> Was in the mood for a thin crust pizza past few days and got one >>>>>>> last night. It was good, but not all that filling. Though that >>>>>>> way I could eat more. ![]() >>>>>>> after 3 slices the carbs make me sleepy. Very sleepy. If I eat >>>>>>> a lot of carbs in general I can barely stay away 20-30 minutes >>>>>>> later. >> >>>>>> With all due respect, your 3 slices of pizza made you sleepy, >>>>>> but you have no idea if it was the carbs. >> >>>>>> Carbs give you quick energy. >>>>>> Carbs will not make you sleeply unless you pig out. >>>>>> High fat can make you sleeply as your body has to work harder to >>>>>> digest. Overeating anything (including carbs) will make you >>>>>> sleepy. >> >>>>>> You probably had a lot of high fat toppings on that low carb thin >>>>>> crust. >> >>>>>> I know most of you seem to hate carbs but serious athletes don't >>>>>> and I don't either. >> >>>>>> Gary >> >>>>>> PS - I'm not out for another carb battle here where no one wins >>>>>> but I'm so tired of all this "carbs are evil crap." Carbs are NOT >>>>>> evil...that's what your body needs for fuel. >> >>>>>> And I'm talking about normal healthy people, not special cases >>>>>> like diabetics. >> >>>>> actually I agree with you. And I used to be something of an >>>>> athlete or tried to be. Rode my bike 30 miles then played doubles >>>>> volleyball for a few hours on weekends. Not real high level, but >>>>> above average... I don't believe carbs are evil at all. But they >>>>> definitely effect me. It's not the fat. Actually I am vegetarian >>>>> so not a lot of fat, though not vegan so do eat cheese which has >>>>> fat. But I notice with things like spaghetti, peanut butter on >>>>> whole wheat bread, fig newton, mushroom soup with egg noodles >>>>> that I have a definite let down after 20-30 minutes. If I am >>>>> active, not really so much but if I'm watching TV or trying to >>>>> read a book, or sitting at work-- I have a hard time staying >>>>> awake after eating even a moderate amount of carbs for lunch. I >>>>> generally don't eat much carbs at lunch because I don't like how >>>>> it effects me. Which is hard for me, because I really like to eat! >> >>>> If carbs are affecting you that much you could have reactive >>>> hypoglycemia or diabetes. >> >>> I've noticed the effect pretty much all my adult life. Also, msg >>> effects me that way too, like in canned mushroom soup... I've been >>> to a couple doctors over the years and they said I don't have >>> symptoms for diabetes. I will have to look up reactive hypoglycemia. >> >> Diabetes isn't diagnosed by symptoms. > > How is it diagnosed then? If you say by testing, then should everyone > be tested? Yes, and they are once they reach a certain age. How old are you? I believe 40 is the age where they routinely test. But if there is a family history, the person might be tested early, particulary if they are overweight. There are various tests that can be done. One is a random finger stick. If the number is high enough it could warrant further testing. One is a fasting finger stick. I managed to pass this one time and time again even though I was actually a diabetic. It's just that I was unwittingly controlling by diet. Another is the OGTT or oral glucose tolerance test. You will be asked to drink a sickly sweet drink then sit quietly for many hours. They will draw blood from a vein every hour or so. This is the same test they would do for reactive hypoglycemia which is thought to be a precursor to diabetes. I had it myself for most of my life. The final test would be the HbA1c. This test can not diagnose if it is in normal range. But if it is high then it can be used for diagosis. My diagnosis came about after a fasting test at the hospital followed by the HbA1c at my Endocrinologist's office. Mine was 10.0. |
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> wrote: >> >> Diabetes isn't diagnosed by symptoms. > >How is it diagnosed then? If you say by testing, then should everyone >be tested? My doctor does the blood test for it every year. Symptoms many not show for years with type II. I don't know the criteria for testing though but weight, age, family history are at least a part of it. |
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On Jun 15, 8:29*pm, "Julie Bove" > wrote:
> somebody wrote: > > On Jun 14, 10:21 pm, "Julie Bove" > wrote: > >> somebody wrote: > >>> On Jun 14, 6:02 pm, Gary > wrote: > >>>> somebody wrote: > > >>>>> Was in the mood for a thin crust pizza past few days and got one > >>>>> last night. It was good, but not all that filling. Though that way > >>>>> I could eat more. ![]() > >>>>> slices the carbs make me sleepy. Very sleepy. If I eat a lot of > >>>>> carbs in general I can barely stay away 20-30 minutes later. > > >>>> With all due respect, your 3 slices of pizza made you sleepy, > >>>> but you have no idea if it was the carbs. > > >>>> Carbs give you quick energy. > >>>> Carbs will not make you sleeply unless you pig out. > >>>> High fat can make you sleeply as your body has to work harder to > >>>> digest. Overeating anything (including carbs) will make you sleepy. > > >>>> You probably had a lot of high fat toppings on that low carb thin > >>>> crust. > > >>>> I know most of you seem to hate carbs but serious athletes don't > >>>> and I don't either. > > >>>> Gary > > >>>> PS - I'm not out for another carb battle here where no one wins but > >>>> I'm so tired of all this "carbs are evil crap." Carbs are NOT > >>>> evil...that's what your body needs for fuel. > > >>>> And I'm talking about normal healthy people, not special cases like > >>>> diabetics. > > >>> actually I agree with you. And I used to be something of an athlete > >>> or tried to be. Rode my bike 30 miles then played doubles volleyball > >>> for a few hours on weekends. Not real high level, but above > >>> average... I don't believe carbs are evil at all. But they > >>> definitely effect me. It's not the fat. Actually I am vegetarian so > >>> not a lot of fat, though not vegan so do eat cheese which has fat. > >>> But I notice with things like spaghetti, peanut butter on whole > >>> wheat bread, fig newton, mushroom soup with egg noodles that I have > >>> a definite let down after 20-30 minutes. If I am active, not really > >>> so much but if I'm watching TV or trying to read a book, or sitting > >>> at work-- I have a hard time staying awake after eating even a > >>> moderate amount of carbs for lunch. I generally don't eat much > >>> carbs at lunch because I don't like how it effects me. Which is > >>> hard for me, because I really like to eat! > > >> If carbs are affecting you that much you could have reactive > >> hypoglycemia or diabetes. > > > I've noticed the effect pretty much all my adult life. *Also, msg > > effects me that way too, like in canned mushroom soup... *I've been to > > a couple doctors over the years and they said I don't have symptoms > > for diabetes. *I will have to look up reactive hypoglycemia. > > Diabetes isn't diagnosed by symptoms. Really now...how is it diagnosed? LOL! |
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On Jun 14, 10:21*pm, "Julie Bove" > wrote:
> somebody wrote: > > On Jun 14, 6:02 pm, Gary > wrote: > >> somebody wrote: > > >>> Was in the mood for a thin crust pizza past few days and got one > >>> last night. It was good, but not all that filling. Though that way > >>> I could eat more. ![]() > >>> slices the carbs make me sleepy. Very sleepy. If I eat a lot of > >>> carbs in general I can barely stay away 20-30 minutes later. > > >> With all due respect, your 3 slices of pizza made you sleepy, > >> but you have no idea if it was the carbs. > > >> Carbs give you quick energy. > >> Carbs will not make you sleeply unless you pig out. > >> High fat can make you sleeply as your body has to work harder to > >> digest. Overeating anything (including carbs) will make you sleepy. > > >> You probably had a lot of high fat toppings on that low carb thin > >> crust. > > >> I know most of you seem to hate carbs but serious athletes don't and > >> I don't either. > > >> Gary > > >> PS - I'm not out for another carb battle here where no one wins but > >> I'm so tired of all this "carbs are evil crap." Carbs are NOT > >> evil...that's what your body needs for fuel. > > >> And I'm talking about normal healthy people, not special cases like > >> diabetics. > > > actually I agree with you. *And I used to be something of an athlete > > or tried to be. *Rode my bike 30 miles then played doubles volleyball > > for a few hours on weekends. *Not real high level, but above > > average... *I don't believe carbs are evil at all. *But they > > definitely effect me. *It's not the fat. *Actually I am vegetarian so > > not a lot of fat, though not vegan so do eat cheese which has fat. > > But I notice with things like spaghetti, peanut butter on whole wheat > > bread, fig newton, mushroom soup with egg noodles that I have a > > definite let down after 20-30 minutes. *If I am active, not really so > > much but if I'm watching TV or trying to read a book, or sitting at > > work-- I have a hard time staying awake after eating even a moderate > > amount of carbs for lunch. *I generally don't eat much carbs at lunch > > because I don't like how it effects me. *Which is hard for me, because > > I really like to eat! > > If carbs are affecting you that much you could have reactive hypoglycemia or > diabetes. After reading a couple articles on the Internet, I'd say I do have a lot of signs of reactive hypoglycemia; if I get health insurance again, I will see if a doc can do some tests. People have always commented about how I continuously eat (small meals) I've done that for a long time. If I don't eat for a few hours, I get irritable and ornery. I've found the little V8 low sodium cans quench my hunger when I start to get hungry. But I don't really like V8 much, except heavily watered down and cold. I like to water down al ot of things, especially fruit juices. I love apple juice but too much sugar at once if not watered down. http://diabetes.niddk.nih.gov/dm/pub...ia/#nodiabetes http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reactive_hypoglycemia |
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> I've found the little V8 low sodium cans quench my hunger > when I start to get hungry. But I don't really like V8 much, except > heavily watered down and cold. I like to water down al ot of things, > especially fruit juices. I love apple juice but too much sugar at > once if not watered down. I like my juice watered down, too, but I water it down with club soda. |
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> > On Jun 14, 6:02 pm, Gary > wrote: > > somebody wrote: > > > > > Was in the mood for a thin crust pizza past few days and got one last > > > night. It was good, but not all that filling. Though that way I could > > > eat more. ![]() > > > carbs make me sleepy. Very sleepy. If I eat a lot of carbs in > > > general I can barely stay away 20-30 minutes later. > > > > With all due respect, your 3 slices of pizza made you sleepy, > > but you have no idea if it was the carbs. One other thing. Simple carbs (plain sugar, candy bars, etc) will do what happened with you. With the simple carbs, you get an energy rush but then 20-30 minutes later you do crash (with the energy). A pizza shouldn't do that to you but maybe the sauce contained sugar. Gary |
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Gary > wrote:
> somebody wrote: >> >> Was in the mood for a thin crust pizza past few days and got one last >> night. It was good, but not all that filling. Though that way I could >> eat more. ![]() >> carbs make me sleepy. Very sleepy. If I eat a lot of carbs in >> general I can barely stay away 20-30 minutes later. > > With all due respect, your 3 slices of pizza made you sleepy, > but you have no idea if it was the carbs. > > Carbs give you quick energy. > Carbs will not make you sleeply unless you pig out. > High fat can make you sleeply as your body has to work harder to digest. > Overeating anything (including carbs) will make you sleepy. > > You probably had a lot of high fat toppings on that low carb thin crust. > > I know most of you seem to hate carbs but serious athletes don't and I don't > either. > > Gary > > PS - I'm not out for another carb battle here where no one wins but I'm so > tired of all this "carbs are evil crap." Carbs are NOT evil...that's what > your body needs for fuel. > > And I'm talking about normal healthy people, not special cases like > diabetics. I have had greasy pizzas make me sleepy, yet I can eat 3 plates of meatless spaghetti, and I'm fine. Greg |
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