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Ketchup! from the following website (and also a recommendation by a maid
service):

http://www.realsimple.com/home-organ...572/index.html

Use ketchup to: Remove tarnish from copper and brass cookware. Squeeze
ketchup onto a cloth and rub it on pots and pans. They should go back to
their coppery color in minutes. Rinse with warm water and dry with a towel.

I don't like ketchup, but like a lot of people I do have a bottle of it. I
had no idea I could use it to clean my copper-clad Revere Ware. Surprise!

Jill

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On Jul 15, 6:54*am, "jmcquown" > wrote:
> Ketchup! *from the following website (and also a recommendation by a maid
> service):
>
> http://www.realsimple.com/home-organ...-surprising-na...
>
> Use ketchup to: Remove tarnish from copper and brass cookware. Squeeze
> ketchup onto a cloth and rub it on pots and pans. They should go back to
> their coppery color in minutes. Rinse with warm water and dry with a towel.
>
> I don't like ketchup, but like a lot of people I do have a bottle of it. *I
> had no idea I could use it to clean my copper-clad Revere Ware. *Surprise!
>
> Jill


Copper cleaner or silver cleaner does it instantaneously. I guess
ketchup would be a good back up if you are out of cleaner.
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jmcquown wrote:
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> Ketchup! from the following website (and also a recommendation by a maid
> service):
>
> http://www.realsimple.com/home-organ...572/index.html
>
> Use ketchup to: Remove tarnish from copper and brass cookware. Squeeze
> ketchup onto a cloth and rub it on pots and pans. They should go back to
> their coppery color in minutes. Rinse with warm water and dry with a towel.
>
> I don't like ketchup, but like a lot of people I do have a bottle of it. I
> had no idea I could use it to clean my copper-clad Revere Ware. Surprise!
>
> Jill


LOL!
I have lots of Revereware with copper bottoms. Try the ketchup and report
back. I'll bet it's a joke and won't work at all. I used to scrub mine
clean for a short while but finally gave up as it takes way more time than
the average cook has.

IMO, if you see shiny copper bottoms of pans hanging in a kitchen....that
person never uses them or they hire someone to polish them each week.

My Revereware pots and pans are black on the copper bottoms and they can
stay that way as far as I'm concerned. They still work fine. :-D I'll use
my ketchup for dogs & burgers.

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> Copper cleaner or silver cleaner does it instantaneously. I guess
> ketchup would be a good back up if you are out of cleaner.


Ketchup only has a trace of vinegar and citric acid. I'll bet it takes
at least an hour.

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On Jul 15, 9:24*am, Gary > wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
>
> > Ketchup! *from the following website (and also a recommendation by a maid
> > service):

>
> >http://www.realsimple.com/home-organ...-surprising-na...

>
> > Use ketchup to: Remove tarnish from copper and brass cookware. Squeeze
> > ketchup onto a cloth and rub it on pots and pans. They should go back to
> > their coppery color in minutes. Rinse with warm water and dry with a towel.

>
> > I don't like ketchup, but like a lot of people I do have a bottle of it.. *I
> > had no idea I could use it to clean my copper-clad Revere Ware. *Surprise!

>
> > Jill

>
> LOL!
> I have lots of Revereware with copper bottoms. Try the ketchup and report
> back. I'll bet it's a joke and won't work at all. *I used to scrub mine
> clean for a short while but finally gave up as it takes way more time than
> the average cook has.
>
> IMO, if you see shiny copper bottoms of pans hanging in a kitchen....that
> person never uses them or they hire someone to polish them each week.
>
> My Revereware pots and pans are black on the copper bottoms and they can
> stay that way as far as I'm concerned. They still work fine. *:-D *I'll use
> my ketchup for dogs & burgers.
>
> Gary


I have my grandpa's copper washtub (one of those oval things with
handles) - it has a lid, but the lid is zinc and ugly - I use the tub
as a decorative plant holder, putting a large potted plant inside -
don't actually put dirt in it, just use it as an outside container.

I polish it with Red Bear copper cleaner - works great - but because
it's such a large item, I put a buffer pad on my cordless drill and do
the polishing the easy way. :-) Works great.

N.


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On 2012-07-15, l, not -l > wrote:

> Salt and vinegar are commonly used to remove tarnish from copper pans; given


Yep. Anything with vinegar will work if you rub long enough. In the
service, our DI told us to swipe the hot sauce off the mess hall
tables to polish the old brass faucets and plumbing fixtures in the
barracks. Later, when I ended up in the fire dept and could afford
Brasso to polish all that fire engine brass, I thought I was home
free. Nope. Damn stuff didn't work any better than Louisiana hot
sauce.

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In article >, says...
>
> On 15-Jul-2012, Gary > wrote:
>
> > jmcquown wrote:
> > >
> > > Ketchup! from the following website (and also a recommendation by a
> > > maid
> > > service):
> > >
> > >
http://www.realsimple.com/home-organ...572/index.html
> > >
> > > Use ketchup to: Remove tarnish from copper and brass cookware. Squeeze
> > > ketchup onto a cloth and rub it on pots and pans. They should go back to
> > > their coppery color in minutes. Rinse with warm water and dry with a
> > > towel.
> > >
> > > I don't like ketchup, but like a lot of people I do have a bottle of it.
> > > I
> > > had no idea I could use it to clean my copper-clad Revere Ware.
> > > Surprise!
> > >
> > > Jill

> >
> > LOL!
> > I have lots of Revereware with copper bottoms. Try the ketchup and report
> > back. I'll bet it's a joke and won't work at all. I used to scrub mine
> > clean for a short while but finally gave up as it takes way more time than
> > the average cook has.

>
> Salt and vinegar are commonly used to remove tarnish from copper pans; given
> the amount of salt and vinegar in ketchup, I'd imagine it would do the job.
> Of course, salt and vinegar are much less expensive than ketchup and,
> generally, as widely found in the home.


Or just lemon juice.

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"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> jmcquown wrote:
>>
>> Ketchup! from the following website (and also a recommendation by a maid
>> service):
>>
>> http://www.realsimple.com/home-organ...572/index.html
>>
>> Use ketchup to: Remove tarnish from copper and brass cookware. Squeeze
>> ketchup onto a cloth and rub it on pots and pans. They should go back to
>> their coppery color in minutes. Rinse with warm water and dry with a
>> towel.
>>
>> I don't like ketchup, but like a lot of people I do have a bottle of it.
>> I
>> had no idea I could use it to clean my copper-clad Revere Ware.
>> Surprise!
>>
>> Jill

>
> LOL!
> I have lots of Revereware with copper bottoms. Try the ketchup and report
> back. I'll bet it's a joke and won't work at all. I used to scrub mine
> clean for a short while but finally gave up as it takes way more time than
> the average cook has.
>
> IMO, if you see shiny copper bottoms of pans hanging in a kitchen....that
> person never uses them or they hire someone to polish them each week.
>

Sorry, sweetie. My aunt Jean was just about one of the best cooks I've ever
known. She also had copper-clad pans. She sure didn't hire someone to
clean it. She was legally blind. She also refinished furniture and did
ceramics as a hobby. For all I know she used ketchup to keep her copper
sparkling clean.

Jill

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On 7/15/2012 9:54 AM, jmcquown wrote:
> Ketchup! from the following website (and also a recommendation by a maid
> service):
>
> http://www.realsimple.com/home-organ...572/index.html
>
>
> Use ketchup to: Remove tarnish from copper and brass cookware. Squeeze
> ketchup onto a cloth and rub it on pots and pans. They should go back to
> their coppery color in minutes. Rinse with warm water and dry with a towel.
>
> I don't like ketchup, but like a lot of people I do have a bottle of it.
> I had no idea I could use it to clean my copper-clad Revere Ware. Surprise!


I like alternative cleaning methods, especially since I have cats in the
house and no telling what they will get into. For copper I've read this:

Copper cleaner: Paste of equal parts vinegar, salt and flour. Be sure to
rinse completely afterward to prevent corrosion.

You can also use baking soda to clean stainless steal.

http://www.marc.org/environment/soli...w/saferalt.htm
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On Sun, 15 Jul 2012 10:24:53 -0400, Gary > wrote:

>jmcquown wrote:
>>
>> Ketchup! from the following website (and also a recommendation by a maid
>> service):
>>
>> http://www.realsimple.com/home-organ...572/index.html
>>
>> Use ketchup to: Remove tarnish from copper and brass cookware. Squeeze
>> ketchup onto a cloth and rub it on pots and pans. They should go back to
>> their coppery color in minutes. Rinse with warm water and dry with a towel.
>>
>> I don't like ketchup, but like a lot of people I do have a bottle of it. I
>> had no idea I could use it to clean my copper-clad Revere Ware. Surprise!
>>
>> Jill

>
>LOL!
>I have lots of Revereware with copper bottoms. Try the ketchup and report
>back. I'll bet it's a joke and won't work at all. I used to scrub mine
>clean for a short while but finally gave up as it takes way more time than
>the average cook has.
>
>IMO, if you see shiny copper bottoms of pans hanging in a kitchen....that
>person never uses them or they hire someone to polish them each week.
>
>My Revereware pots and pans are black on the copper bottoms and they can
>stay that way as far as I'm concerned. They still work fine. :-D I'll use
>my ketchup for dogs & burgers.
>
>Gary


The darker the exterior of cookware the better it cooks... those who
shine the exterior of their cookware to a mirror finish are no kind of
a cook, they're all show and no go.


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On Sun, 15 Jul 2012 14:39:48 GMT, "l, not -l" > wrote:

>
>On 15-Jul-2012, Gary > wrote:
>
>> jmcquown wrote:
>> >
>> > Ketchup! from the following website (and also a recommendation by a
>> > maid
>> > service):
>> >
>> > http://www.realsimple.com/home-organ...572/index.html
>> >
>> > Use ketchup to: Remove tarnish from copper and brass cookware. Squeeze
>> > ketchup onto a cloth and rub it on pots and pans. They should go back to
>> > their coppery color in minutes. Rinse with warm water and dry with a
>> > towel.
>> >
>> > I don't like ketchup, but like a lot of people I do have a bottle of it.
>> > I
>> > had no idea I could use it to clean my copper-clad Revere Ware.
>> > Surprise!
>> >
>> > Jill

>>
>> LOL!
>> I have lots of Revereware with copper bottoms. Try the ketchup and report
>> back. I'll bet it's a joke and won't work at all. I used to scrub mine
>> clean for a short while but finally gave up as it takes way more time than
>> the average cook has.

>
>Salt and vinegar are commonly used to remove tarnish from copper pans; given
>the amount of salt and vinegar in ketchup, I'd imagine it would do the job.
>Of course, salt and vinegar are much less expensive than ketchup and,
>generally, as widely found in the home.


The thing is that salt and vinegar will damage copper and other
cookware, it will cause pitting. If one insists on shiney cookware
then use a metal polish made specifically for that particular metal...
acid and salt is the last thing I'd use for polishing any metal.
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On Sun, 15 Jul 2012 07:54:58 -0700 (PDT), Nancy2
> wrote:

>On Jul 15, 9:24*am, Gary > wrote:
>> jmcquown wrote:
>>
>> > Ketchup! *from the following website (and also a recommendation by a maid
>> > service):

>>
>> >http://www.realsimple.com/home-organ...-surprising-na...

>>
>> > Use ketchup to: Remove tarnish from copper and brass cookware. Squeeze
>> > ketchup onto a cloth and rub it on pots and pans. They should go back to
>> > their coppery color in minutes. Rinse with warm water and dry with a towel.

>>
>> > I don't like ketchup, but like a lot of people I do have a bottle of it. *I
>> > had no idea I could use it to clean my copper-clad Revere Ware. *Surprise!

>>
>> > Jill

>>
>> LOL!
>> I have lots of Revereware with copper bottoms. Try the ketchup and report
>> back. I'll bet it's a joke and won't work at all. *I used to scrub mine
>> clean for a short while but finally gave up as it takes way more time than
>> the average cook has.
>>
>> IMO, if you see shiny copper bottoms of pans hanging in a kitchen....that
>> person never uses them or they hire someone to polish them each week.
>>
>> My Revereware pots and pans are black on the copper bottoms and they can
>> stay that way as far as I'm concerned. They still work fine. *:-D *I'll use
>> my ketchup for dogs & burgers.
>>
>> Gary

>
>I have my grandpa's copper washtub (one of those oval things with
>handles) - it has a lid, but the lid is zinc and ugly - I use the tub
>as a decorative plant holder, putting a large potted plant inside -
>don't actually put dirt in it, just use it as an outside container.
>
>I polish it with Red Bear copper cleaner - works great - but because
>it's such a large item, I put a buffer pad on my cordless drill and do
>the polishing the easy way. :-) Works great.


Yes, Red Bear is a very good product and is safe for copper. Another
good copper cleaner is Twinkle... but for gays! LOL

http://www.amazon.com/Red-Bear-Coppe.../dp/B000ROIG6Y
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On 7/15/2012 6:08 AM, Cheryl wrote:
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> I like alternative cleaning methods, especially since I have cats in the
> house and no telling what they will get into. For copper I've read this:
>
> Copper cleaner: Paste of equal parts vinegar, salt and flour. Be sure to
> rinse completely afterward to prevent corrosion.


This sounds like a good, effective, mix. I like the idea of using just
vinegar and salt for cleaning copper, which has the advantage of
cleaning instantaneously - no scrubbing required! Like your method, you
have to rinse completely. OTOH, the piece is just going to corrode
again. If you're just displaying it, you might want to consider spraying
it with a clear finish.

I was into that copper bowl craze of the 70s. Those bowls sure did look
purdy but I never found a way that I could live with them since I wanted
to actually use the bowls for cooking. I'm so done with those things!

>
> You can also use baking soda to clean stainless steal.
>
> http://www.marc.org/environment/soli...w/saferalt.htm



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On Jul 15, 10:24*am, Gary > wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
>
> > Ketchup! *from the following website (and also a recommendation by a maid
> > service):

>
> >http://www.realsimple.com/home-organ...-surprising-na...

>
> > Use ketchup to: Remove tarnish from copper and brass cookware. Squeeze
> > ketchup onto a cloth and rub it on pots and pans. They should go back to
> > their coppery color in minutes. Rinse with warm water and dry with a towel.

>
> > I don't like ketchup, but like a lot of people I do have a bottle of it.. *I
> > had no idea I could use it to clean my copper-clad Revere Ware. *Surprise!

>
> > Jill

>
> LOL!
> I have lots of Revereware with copper bottoms. Try the ketchup and report
> back. I'll bet it's a joke and won't work at all. *I used to scrub mine
> clean for a short while but finally gave up as it takes way more time than
> the average cook has.
>
> IMO, if you see shiny copper bottoms of pans hanging in a kitchen....that
> person never uses them or they hire someone to polish them each week.
>
> My Revereware pots and pans are black on the copper bottoms and they can
> stay that way as far as I'm concerned. They still work fine. *:-D *I'll use
> my ketchup for dogs & burgers.
>
> Gary


Ugh - bad childhood memory. My mother had a set of that Revereware
plus the hanging rack. Of course, she wanted the copper gleaming, so
it added to the elbow grease performance during the dish washing
gig. When she moved, the hanging rack was never used again. I bet
someone in the family tho is still using those pans.
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Very old news.

jmcquown wrote:
> Ketchup! from the following website (and also a recommendation by a
> maid service):
>
> http://www.realsimple.com/home-organ...572/index.html
>
> Use ketchup to: Remove tarnish from copper and brass cookware. Squeeze
> ketchup onto a cloth and rub it on pots and pans. They should go back
> to their coppery color in minutes. Rinse with warm water and dry with
> a towel.
> I don't like ketchup, but like a lot of people I do have a bottle of
> it. I had no idea I could use it to clean my copper-clad Revere
> Ware. Surprise!
> Jill



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> ImStillMags wrote:
>
>> Copper cleaner or silver cleaner does it instantaneously. I guess
>> ketchup would be a good back up if you are out of cleaner.

>
> Ketchup only has a trace of vinegar and citric acid. I'll bet it takes
> at least an hour.


It does take a very long time and isn't nearly as effective as copper
cleaner.


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Gary wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
>>
>> Ketchup! from the following website (and also a recommendation by a
>> maid service):
>>
>> http://www.realsimple.com/home-organ...572/index.html
>>
>> Use ketchup to: Remove tarnish from copper and brass cookware.
>> Squeeze ketchup onto a cloth and rub it on pots and pans. They
>> should go back to their coppery color in minutes. Rinse with warm
>> water and dry with a towel.
>>
>> I don't like ketchup, but like a lot of people I do have a bottle of
>> it. I had no idea I could use it to clean my copper-clad Revere
>> Ware. Surprise!
>>
>> Jill

>
> LOL!
> I have lots of Revereware with copper bottoms. Try the ketchup and
> report back. I'll bet it's a joke and won't work at all. I used to
> scrub mine clean for a short while but finally gave up as it takes
> way more time than the average cook has.
>
> IMO, if you see shiny copper bottoms of pans hanging in a
> kitchen....that person never uses them or they hire someone to polish
> them each week.
>
> My Revereware pots and pans are black on the copper bottoms and they
> can stay that way as far as I'm concerned. They still work fine. :-D
> I'll use my ketchup for dogs & burgers.


Yep. I no longer polish my copper bottoms. My grandma and parents used to
do it all the time. They were proud of the results.


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On 7/15/2012 7:54 AM, jmcquown wrote:
> Ketchup! from the following website (and also a recommendation by a
> maid service):
>
> http://www.realsimple.com/home-organ...572/index.html
>
>
> Use ketchup to: Remove tarnish from copper and brass cookware. Squeeze
> ketchup onto a cloth and rub it on pots and pans. They should go back to
> their coppery color in minutes. Rinse with warm water and dry with a towel.
>
> I don't like ketchup, but like a lot of people I do have a bottle of
> it. I had no idea I could use it to clean my copper-clad Revere Ware.
> Surprise!
>
> Jill



It's the acid that does it. A paste of vinegar and salt used with a
scrubber works quite well on copper. My dad worked at a Revere foundry
during WWII and recommended that method. Any cleaner has to be used
fairly often on copper if you want it shiny.

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On 7/15/2012 10:54 AM, Nancy2 wrote:
> On Jul 15, 9:24 am, Gary > wrote:
>> jmcquown wrote:
>>
>>> Ketchup! from the following website (and also a recommendation by a maid
>>> service):

>>
>>> http://www.realsimple.com/home-organ...-surprising-na...

>>
>>> Use ketchup to: Remove tarnish from copper and brass cookware. Squeeze
>>> ketchup onto a cloth and rub it on pots and pans. They should go back to
>>> their coppery color in minutes. Rinse with warm water and dry with a towel.

>>
>>> I don't like ketchup, but like a lot of people I do have a bottle of it. I
>>> had no idea I could use it to clean my copper-clad Revere Ware. Surprise!

>>
>>> Jill

>>
>> LOL!
>> I have lots of Revereware with copper bottoms. Try the ketchup and report
>> back. I'll bet it's a joke and won't work at all. I used to scrub mine
>> clean for a short while but finally gave up as it takes way more time than
>> the average cook has.
>>
>> IMO, if you see shiny copper bottoms of pans hanging in a kitchen....that
>> person never uses them or they hire someone to polish them each week.
>>
>> My Revereware pots and pans are black on the copper bottoms and they can
>> stay that way as far as I'm concerned. They still work fine. :-D I'll use
>> my ketchup for dogs & burgers.
>>
>> Gary

>
> I have my grandpa's copper washtub (one of those oval things with
> handles) - it has a lid, but the lid is zinc and ugly - I use the tub
> as a decorative plant holder, putting a large potted plant inside -
> don't actually put dirt in it, just use it as an outside container.
>
> I polish it with Red Bear copper cleaner - works great - but because
> it's such a large item, I put a buffer pad on my cordless drill and do
> the polishing the easy way. :-) Works great.
>
> N.
>

They Ketchup bit works, but it's acid content during the cooking process,
that does the work.... Now you've got a great excuse to make a big pot
of spaghetti sauce, which is made with garlic, onion, basil, salt, sugar
optional , salt, black pepper, tomato..... and later when your pot is
clean.... a finger pinch of baking soda,
to reduce the acidity upon gorging that big dish of spaghetti and meat
balls.





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On 7/15/2012 12:44 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> On Sun, 15 Jul 2012 10:24:53 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>
>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>
>>> Ketchup! from the following website (and also a recommendation by a maid
>>> service):
>>>
>>> http://www.realsimple.com/home-organ...572/index.html
>>>
>>> Use ketchup to: Remove tarnish from copper and brass cookware. Squeeze
>>> ketchup onto a cloth and rub it on pots and pans. They should go back to
>>> their coppery color in minutes. Rinse with warm water and dry with a towel.
>>>
>>> I don't like ketchup, but like a lot of people I do have a bottle of it. I
>>> had no idea I could use it to clean my copper-clad Revere Ware. Surprise!
>>>
>>> Jill

>>
>> LOL!
>> I have lots of Revereware with copper bottoms. Try the ketchup and report
>> back. I'll bet it's a joke and won't work at all. I used to scrub mine
>> clean for a short while but finally gave up as it takes way more time than
>> the average cook has.
>>
>> IMO, if you see shiny copper bottoms of pans hanging in a kitchen....that
>> person never uses them or they hire someone to polish them each week.
>>
>> My Revereware pots and pans are black on the copper bottoms and they can
>> stay that way as far as I'm concerned. They still work fine. :-D I'll use
>> my ketchup for dogs & burgers.
>>
>> Gary

>
> The darker the exterior of cookware the better it cooks... those who
> shine the exterior of their cookware to a mirror finish are no kind of
> a cook, they're all show and no go.
>

Finally, some one with common sense.....

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I've always used lemon juice and salt - works a treat and it's cheap.


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On 7/15/2012 1:38 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> I was into that copper bowl craze of the 70s. Those bowls sure did look
> purdy but I never found a way that I could live with them since I wanted
> to actually use the bowls for cooking. I'm so done with those things!


I don't have anything copper but it reminded me of the article I read
the other day when I was looking for local places where I can drop off
dead batteries and CFLs. That article came up. I remember when I used
to throw dead batteries in the trash. I don't do that anymore. CFLs, I
knew they're full of mercury but haven't had any die until now. They're
going in multiples since I changed all my lamps at pretty much the same
time.

I have a few nice stainless pieces of cookware and the tip about baking
soda is nice though I haven't tried it yet.

I was so tempted the other day by a Groupon Goods offer. But I have all
the cookware I need. They might not match and the lids don't fit tight
on everything but they work. It was just a fleeting thought to replace
them. The thought is gone now. These aren't even stainless but I'm
sure they'd work just fine on my smoothtop.

http://www.groupon.com/deals/gg-the-...ving-stock-pot

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On 7/15/2012 12:44 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:

> The darker the exterior of cookware the better it cooks... those who
> shine the exterior of their cookware to a mirror finish are no kind of
> a cook, they're all show and no go.


Um, what was that cookware that you took a picture of that showed you in
your house dress and your peg leg??


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> On 7/15/2012 12:44 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>> On Sun, 15 Jul 2012 10:24:53 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>>
>>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Ketchup! from the following website (and also a recommendation by a maid
>>>> service):
>>>>
>>>> http://www.realsimple.com/home-organ...572/index.html
>>>>
>>>> Use ketchup to: Remove tarnish from copper and brass cookware. Squeeze
>>>> ketchup onto a cloth and rub it on pots and pans. They should go back to
>>>> their coppery color in minutes. Rinse with warm water and dry with a towel.
>>>>
>>>> I don't like ketchup, but like a lot of people I do have a bottle of it. I
>>>> had no idea I could use it to clean my copper-clad Revere Ware. Surprise!
>>>>
>>>> Jill
>>>
>>> LOL!
>>> I have lots of Revereware with copper bottoms. Try the ketchup and report
>>> back. I'll bet it's a joke and won't work at all. I used to scrub mine
>>> clean for a short while but finally gave up as it takes way more time than
>>> the average cook has.
>>>
>>> IMO, if you see shiny copper bottoms of pans hanging in a kitchen....that
>>> person never uses them or they hire someone to polish them each week.
>>>
>>> My Revereware pots and pans are black on the copper bottoms and they can
>>> stay that way as far as I'm concerned. They still work fine. :-D I'll use
>>> my ketchup for dogs & burgers.
>>>
>>> Gary

>>
>> The darker the exterior of cookware the better it cooks... those who
>> shine the exterior of their cookware to a mirror finish are no kind of
>> a cook, they're all show and no go.
>>

> Finally, some one with common sense.....


Oh thanks, I was getting worried.

Since I hang my pots, I thought someone would bitch.

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On 7/15/2012 4:32 PM, Cheryl wrote:
> On 7/15/2012 1:38 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>> I was into that copper bowl craze of the 70s. Those bowls sure did look
>> purdy but I never found a way that I could live with them since I wanted
>> to actually use the bowls for cooking. I'm so done with those things!

>
> I don't have anything copper but it reminded me of the article I read
> the other day when I was looking for local places where I can drop off
> dead batteries and CFLs. That article came up. I remember when I used
> to throw dead batteries in the trash. I don't do that anymore. CFLs, I
> knew they're full of mercury but haven't had any die until now. They're
> going in multiples since I changed all my lamps at pretty much the same
> time.


I've got a set of LED bulbs in the bathroom, they're cool and brilliant
- literally. I think the compact florescent light bulb might be just an
interim step and that LEDs are the future of lighting. The CFLs seem
overly complex and I've never had one last anywhere near 5 years as
advertised. Hopefully the LEDs will have a bright and long life.

>
> I have a few nice stainless pieces of cookware and the tip about baking
> soda is nice though I haven't tried it yet.
>
> I was so tempted the other day by a Groupon Goods offer. But I have all
> the cookware I need. They might not match and the lids don't fit tight
> on everything but they work. It was just a fleeting thought to replace
> them. The thought is gone now. These aren't even stainless but I'm
> sure they'd work just fine on my smoothtop.
>
> http://www.groupon.com/deals/gg-the-...ving-stock-pot
>


I like to collect guitars myself. :-)
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On Sun, 15 Jul 2012 15:25:34 -0700 in rec.food.cooking, "Julie Bove"
> wrote,
>Gary wrote:
>> My Revereware pots and pans are black on the copper bottoms and they
>> can stay that way as far as I'm concerned. They still work fine. :-D
>> I'll use my ketchup for dogs & burgers.

>
>Yep. I no longer polish my copper bottoms. My grandma and parents used to
>do it all the time. They were proud of the results.


If someone wants polished copper pots hanging in the kitchen, they
should polish them, coat them with lacquer, and then never cook anything
in them. I hope nobody here is that person.
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> On Sun, 15 Jul 2012 15:25:34 -0700 in rec.food.cooking, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote,
>>Gary wrote:
>>> My Revereware pots and pans are black on the copper bottoms and they
>>> can stay that way as far as I'm concerned. They still work fine. :-D
>>> I'll use my ketchup for dogs & burgers.

>>
>>Yep. I no longer polish my copper bottoms. My grandma and parents used
>>to
>>do it all the time. They were proud of the results.

>
> If someone wants polished copper pots hanging in the kitchen, they
> should polish them, coat them with lacquer, and then never cook anything
> in them. I hope nobody here is that person.


I really can't see why everyone thinks that cleaning copper is such a
problem. I recently bought, at huge expense, a copper jam pan. I figured
that since I'd wanted one for 40+ years and I had a spare bit of cash, I was
going to have one and enjoy using it before I popped my clogs.

Thsi pan lives on top of my kicthen cupboards and I have to say that when I
first put it up there, I was ashamed of how grubby the tops of the cupboards
were so I knew it too would get grubby. Anyhow, When I have pulled it down
as a did afew days ago to make Haw Jelly, it was grubby. I washe dit, made
my jelly and then cleaned it with lemon and salt which took no more time
that it woudl to clean any other big pan that had seen a bit of hard
cooking. It is back up there and it will bget grubby again. C'est la
guerre..............


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"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> jmcquown wrote:
>>
>> Ketchup! from the following website (and also a recommendation by a maid
>> service):
>>
>> http://www.realsimple.com/home-organ...572/index.html
>>
>> Use ketchup to: Remove tarnish from copper and brass cookware. Squeeze
>> ketchup onto a cloth and rub it on pots and pans. They should go back to
>> their coppery color in minutes. Rinse with warm water and dry with a
>> towel.
>>
>> I don't like ketchup, but like a lot of people I do have a bottle of it.
>> I
>> had no idea I could use it to clean my copper-clad Revere Ware.
>> Surprise!
>>
>> Jill

>
> LOL!
> I have lots of Revereware with copper bottoms. Try the ketchup and report
> back. I'll bet it's a joke and won't work at all. I used to scrub mine
> clean for a short while but finally gave up as it takes way more time than
> the average cook has.
>
> IMO, if you see shiny copper bottoms of pans hanging in a kitchen....that
> person never uses them or they hire someone to polish them each week.
>
> My Revereware pots and pans are black on the copper bottoms and they can
> stay that way as far as I'm concerned. They still work fine. :-D I'll
> use
> my ketchup for dogs & burgers.
>
> Gary



Mine aren't black but they aren't sparkly clean, either. And did I ever say
I wanted them to be polished? I was simply passing along information.

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jmcquown wrote:
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> "Gary" > wrote in message
> ...
>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>
>>> Ketchup! from the following website (and also a recommendation by a
>>> maid
>>> service):
>>>
>>> http://www.realsimple.com/home-organ...572/index.html
>>>
>>>
>>> Use ketchup to: Remove tarnish from copper and brass cookware. Squeeze
>>> ketchup onto a cloth and rub it on pots and pans. They should go back to
>>> their coppery color in minutes. Rinse with warm water and dry with a
>>> towel.
>>>
>>> I don't like ketchup, but like a lot of people I do have a bottle of
>>> it. I
>>> had no idea I could use it to clean my copper-clad Revere Ware.
>>> Surprise!
>>>
>>> Jill

>>
>> LOL!
>> I have lots of Revereware with copper bottoms. Try the ketchup and report
>> back. I'll bet it's a joke and won't work at all. I used to scrub mine
>> clean for a short while but finally gave up as it takes way more time
>> than
>> the average cook has.
>>
>> IMO, if you see shiny copper bottoms of pans hanging in a kitchen....that
>> person never uses them or they hire someone to polish them each week.
>>

> Sorry, sweetie. My aunt Jean was just about one of the best cooks I've
> ever known. She also had copper-clad pans. She sure didn't hire
> someone to clean it. She was legally blind. She also refinished
> furniture and did ceramics as a hobby. For all I know she used ketchup
> to keep her copper sparkling clean.
>
> Jill


My mom's copper-clad Revereware was always polished. Come to
think of it, it was either my sister or I who did that after we
were old enough to do so. I polished for a while after I was out
on my own and then stopped. I can't use my Revereware on my
induction stove, so my daughter has the intermediate-aged items.

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Brooklyn1 wrote:
> On Sun, 15 Jul 2012 10:24:53 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>
>> jmcquown wrote:
>>> Ketchup! from the following website (and also a recommendation by a maid
>>> service):
>>>
>>> http://www.realsimple.com/home-organ...572/index.html
>>>
>>> Use ketchup to: Remove tarnish from copper and brass cookware. Squeeze
>>> ketchup onto a cloth and rub it on pots and pans. They should go back to
>>> their coppery color in minutes. Rinse with warm water and dry with a towel.
>>>
>>> I don't like ketchup, but like a lot of people I do have a bottle of it. I
>>> had no idea I could use it to clean my copper-clad Revere Ware. Surprise!
>>>
>>> Jill

>> LOL!
>> I have lots of Revereware with copper bottoms. Try the ketchup and report
>> back. I'll bet it's a joke and won't work at all. I used to scrub mine
>> clean for a short while but finally gave up as it takes way more time than
>> the average cook has.
>>
>> IMO, if you see shiny copper bottoms of pans hanging in a kitchen....that
>> person never uses them or they hire someone to polish them each week.
>>
>> My Revereware pots and pans are black on the copper bottoms and they can
>> stay that way as far as I'm concerned. They still work fine. :-D I'll use
>> my ketchup for dogs & burgers.
>>
>> Gary

>
> The darker the exterior of cookware the better it cooks... those who
> shine the exterior of their cookware to a mirror finish are no kind of
> a cook, they're all show and no go.


Oh, good. I started thinking that some time ago.

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On Tue, 17 Jul 2012 13:26:13 +1000 in rec.food.cooking, "Farm1"
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>"David Harmon" > wrote in message
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>> If someone wants polished copper pots hanging in the kitchen, they
>> should polish them, coat them with lacquer, and then never cook anything
>> in them. I hope nobody here is that person.

>
>I really can't see why everyone thinks that cleaning copper is such a
>problem.


I can't see why leaving some oxide on it is a problem.

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> On Tue, 17 Jul 2012 13:26:13 +1000 in rec.food.cooking, "Farm1"
> > wrote,
>>"David Harmon" > wrote in message
>>>
>>> If someone wants polished copper pots hanging in the kitchen, they
>>> should polish them, coat them with lacquer, and then never cook anything
>>> in them. I hope nobody here is that person.

>>
>>I really can't see why everyone thinks that cleaning copper is such a
>>problem.

>
> I can't see why leaving some oxide on it is a problem.


I don't see that as being problem either if that is how people like their
copper to look, however I can't wait till mine gets the patina that comes
from decades of use and decades of cleaning - none of that spray on stuff
for me.

I know I won't live long enough to see that happen but given that my pan is
high quality, I can go to my grave knowing it will be sought after by cooks
for many decades to come.


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On Tue, 17 Jul 2012 22:44:51 -0400, "Jean B." > wrote:

>Brooklyn1 wrote:
>> On Sun, 15 Jul 2012 10:24:53 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>>
>>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>> Ketchup! from the following website (and also a recommendation by a maid
>>>> service):
>>>>
>>>> http://www.realsimple.com/home-organ...572/index.html
>>>>
>>>> Use ketchup to: Remove tarnish from copper and brass cookware. Squeeze
>>>> ketchup onto a cloth and rub it on pots and pans. They should go back to
>>>> their coppery color in minutes. Rinse with warm water and dry with a towel.
>>>>
>>>> I don't like ketchup, but like a lot of people I do have a bottle of it. I
>>>> had no idea I could use it to clean my copper-clad Revere Ware. Surprise!
>>>>
>>>> Jill
>>> LOL!
>>> I have lots of Revereware with copper bottoms. Try the ketchup and report
>>> back. I'll bet it's a joke and won't work at all. I used to scrub mine
>>> clean for a short while but finally gave up as it takes way more time than
>>> the average cook has.
>>>
>>> IMO, if you see shiny copper bottoms of pans hanging in a kitchen....that
>>> person never uses them or they hire someone to polish them each week.
>>>
>>> My Revereware pots and pans are black on the copper bottoms and they can
>>> stay that way as far as I'm concerned. They still work fine. :-D I'll use
>>> my ketchup for dogs & burgers.
>>>
>>> Gary

>>
>> The darker the exterior of cookware the better it cooks... those who
>> shine the exterior of their cookware to a mirror finish are no kind of
>> a cook, they're all show and no go.

>
>Oh, good. I started thinking that some time ago.


Shiny cook/bakeware reflects heat away causing uneven cooking. Also
the rougher the exterior of cooking vessels, the more surface area,
the better they cook, and with less energy wasted. It's very silly to
polish the exterior of copper cookware, just wash off any schmutz, but
the dark oxidation is the true beauty of copper cookware, polishing
negates your investment. If folks have so much extra time and energy
to waste polishing cookware perhaps they'd derive more pleasure using
that time and effort masturbating. LOL


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I swear, sometimes it's hard to believe that any of you people actually
cook.

Of course ketchup works. Not all that easily, but it works.

When you cook a lot with copper pans, one thing you quickly learn is
that any tomato-based liquid that drips or runs onto the outside of the
pan will remove the patina instantly.

The only time I ever remove the patina completely from a copper pan is
if I've accidentally gotten tomato sauce over the lip. Then you have to
clean the entire pan, or live with a streaky, dirty-looking dark finish
permanently. Even this matters only if you hang your pans on display.

If I have to clean the outside of one of my copper pans, I use Red Bear.
It works in seconds, using just a sponge.

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Brooklyn1 wrote:
> On Tue, 17 Jul 2012 22:44:51 -0400, "Jean B." > wrote:
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>> Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>> On Sun, 15 Jul 2012 10:24:53 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>>>
>>>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>>> Ketchup! from the following website (and also a recommendation by a maid
>>>>> service):
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.realsimple.com/home-organ...572/index.html
>>>>>
>>>>> Use ketchup to: Remove tarnish from copper and brass cookware. Squeeze
>>>>> ketchup onto a cloth and rub it on pots and pans. They should go back to
>>>>> their coppery color in minutes. Rinse with warm water and dry with a towel.
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't like ketchup, but like a lot of people I do have a bottle of it. I
>>>>> had no idea I could use it to clean my copper-clad Revere Ware. Surprise!
>>>>>
>>>>> Jill
>>>> LOL!
>>>> I have lots of Revereware with copper bottoms. Try the ketchup and report
>>>> back. I'll bet it's a joke and won't work at all. I used to scrub mine
>>>> clean for a short while but finally gave up as it takes way more time than
>>>> the average cook has.
>>>>
>>>> IMO, if you see shiny copper bottoms of pans hanging in a kitchen....that
>>>> person never uses them or they hire someone to polish them each week.
>>>>
>>>> My Revereware pots and pans are black on the copper bottoms and they can
>>>> stay that way as far as I'm concerned. They still work fine. :-D I'll use
>>>> my ketchup for dogs & burgers.
>>>>
>>>> Gary
>>> The darker the exterior of cookware the better it cooks... those who
>>> shine the exterior of their cookware to a mirror finish are no kind of
>>> a cook, they're all show and no go.

>> Oh, good. I started thinking that some time ago.

>
> Shiny cook/bakeware reflects heat away causing uneven cooking. Also
> the rougher the exterior of cooking vessels, the more surface area,
> the better they cook, and with less energy wasted. It's very silly to
> polish the exterior of copper cookware, just wash off any schmutz, but
> the dark oxidation is the true beauty of copper cookware, polishing
> negates your investment. If folks have so much extra time and energy
> to waste polishing cookware perhaps they'd derive more pleasure using
> that time and effort masturbating. LOL


LOL! You got me there.

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