On Aug 16, 11:53*pm, "Farm1" > wrote:

> :-)) *Now you've mentioned it, it does indeed sound very funny. *But since I
> wasn't too sure about what it really meant, I went to Wikipedia and found
> out.


I don't like finding stuff out too quickly, stunts my brain
growth by not allowing me to think for myself. I love the guessing
game that precedes the actual finding out. Plus I have an old
computer with outdated software and going there would be a chore. I
know it has something to do with pressings, I think. Notice how I
started out saying "I know", and then turned it into, "I think".
Pretty tricky huh? Anyway, I'm glad you saw at least a hint of humor
in the human virgin vs human extra virgin concept.

TJ

On Aug 17, 4:38*am, George M. Middius > wrote:

> Learning new stuff makes you an elitist in Jammy Toe's book.


Bullshit Middius, absolute bullshit. I commend the poster for
going to wikipedia and looking into the matter. I do not consider
anyone an elitist for trying to learn something, no matter what
they're trying to learn (even if it's the perceived differences
between a variety of over-priced wines - for example) - because the
person is trying to learn - not taking some kind of test to elevate
himself to expert status without validation. Nice try though. And
thanks for the input, your sarcasm made me laugh, which is always good
- good for me and others as well - and I knew and appreciate that
you'd find your way not only into this thread but into direct
correspondence with me - the world's most modest man. Thank you Mr
Middius.

TJ

On Aug 17, 8:35*am, Bryan > wrote:

> What balance is that, Mr. Slack-jawed Yokel?


Yokel? Dude, I've been around. I've yokeled all over this
country. I've big city yokeled too just like the concrete farmers in
New York City. You know very well what a balanced diet it. Sure, it
could be defined differently by those with different agendas, but we
both know it to mean a good balance of nutrients hopefully enhanced
with a good balance of good taste. All diets except for those few
necessary for people with ailments are in my opinion phony and geared
toward making money. It's the American way - yokel breath.

TJ

On Aug 17, 8:49*am, Bryan > wrote:

> People like to think of themselves as the sort of person who likes EVOO. *Makes them feel snazzy. *There are a very few things I like EVOO on/in.. *I bought the extra light stuff because I needed to fry some chicken at work, because it's the only decent oil they have at the grocery store. *At home I have been using pecan, but the next order will be high oleic sunflower:http://www.bulknaturaloils.com/Produ...-oleic-organic....
>
> High oleic sunflower has a lipid profile very similar to olive, but is more neutral tasting, and far less expensive. *Anyone who is frying in anything else is making a less than ideal choice.


I have used more olive oil in my life than the average American
but I knew even at a young age that it did not go well with everything
because it is as you say so dominant. It's great on salad, especially
extra virgin, for my tastes anyway. But for cooking it can really
screw up some things. Try cooking a Chinese meal with a tried and
true recipe but using olive oil in place of the peanut or whatever oil
the recipe calls for - it's going to taste pretty offensive. I used
olive oil on a lot of things when I was a kid, and still do today, but
for frying eggs (for example), olive oil gets in the way and I much
prefer butter. So of course if you try to use olive oil on all sorts
of things it's not going to work out well for you. That is my input,
thank you.

TJ

On Aug 18, 2:05*am, "Dr. Know" > wrote:
> On Fri, 17 Aug 2012 10:40:10 -0700, sf wrote:



> > It amazes me at how many people all of a sudden become experts as soon
> > as anyone posts an opinion.



> It probably amazes you because so many people know more than you do
> about any given subject.



LOL - (and I would say the same to the other guy if he had
something equally funny to say in response to you).

TJ

On Sat, 18 Aug 2012 01:05:05 -0500, "Dr. Know" > wrote:

> On Fri, 17 Aug 2012 10:40:10 -0700, sf wrote:
>
> > It amazes me at how many people all of a sudden become experts as soon
> > as anyone posts an opinion.
>
> It probably amazes you because so many people know more than you do
> about any given subject.
>

You are definitely a case in point - a complete waste of bandwidth.

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

Tommy Joe wrote:
>
> I have used more olive oil in my life than the average American

Let me ask you this, TJ. Have you ever tried the Pompeian brand of EVOO?

Up until recently, that's the only kind I've ever tried and I didn't like
it. I would love to know your opinion of it since you obviously know your
stuff. :-D

Maybe a better question would be what brand do you use?

This would be like me asking my dentist, "What dentist do *you* go to?"
His answer might be an even better dentist. :-D

Gary

"Dr. Know" wrote:
>
> On Fri, 17 Aug 2012 10:40:10 -0700, sf wrote:
>
> > It amazes me at how many people all of a sudden become experts as soon
> > as anyone posts an opinion.
>
> It probably amazes you because so many people know more than you do
> about any given subject.
>
> -sw

I think you and sf need to kiss and make up rather than nym to contact her.
Did you say her real name is "Barbara?" It's time I learned such things.


Gary

Jammy Toe wrote:

> > Learning new stuff makes you an elitist in Jammy Toe's book.

> Bullshit Middius, absolute bullshit.

> thanks for the input, your sarcasm made me laugh, which is always good

> Thank you Mr Middius.

Do you worry about your mood swings?

"Tommy Joe" > wrote in message
On Aug 17, 8:49 am, Bryan > wrote:

> People like to think of themselves as the sort of person who likes EVOO.
> Makes them feel snazzy. There are a very few things I like EVOO on/in. I
> bought the extra light stuff because I needed to fry some chicken at work,
> because it's the only decent oil they have at the grocery store. At home I
> have been using pecan, but the next order will be high oleic
> sunflower:http://www.bulknaturaloils.com/Produ...-oleic-organic...
>
> High oleic sunflower has a lipid profile very similar to olive, but is
> more neutral tasting, and far less expensive. Anyone who is frying in
> anything else is making a less than ideal choice.


TJ:" I have used more olive oil in my life than the average American
but I knew even at a young age that it did not go well with everything
because it is as you say so dominant. It's great on salad, especially
extra virgin, for my tastes anyway. "
_____________________________
Snap! I too love it on salad but I also add a drizzle of caramelised
Balsemic - I find that combo just perfect on (most) salads.


TJ: "But for cooking it can really
screw up some things."
________________________________
Like you, I don't like OO for cooking many things. I'ts great in for any
Italian type recipes but for most other recipes I' prefer to use Safflower
oil or similar.

"Dr. Know" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 17 Aug 2012 10:40:10 -0700, sf wrote:
>
>> It amazes me at how many people all of a sudden become experts as soon
>> as anyone posts an opinion.
>
> It probably amazes you because so many people know more than you do
> about any given subject.
>
> -sw

Nym shifting to get attention yet again!!! What a desperate.

On Aug 18, 5:16*am, Gary > wrote:

> Let me ask you this, TJ. *Have you ever tried the Pompeian brand of EVOO?
>
> Up until recently, that's the only kind I've ever tried and I didn't like
> it. I would love to know your opinion of it since you obviously know your
> stuff. *:-D
>
> Maybe a better question would be what brand do you use?
>
> This would be like me asking my dentist, "What dentist do *you* go to?"
> His answer might be an even better dentist. *:-D


I still think it's a matter of how you use the oil and what you're
using it on. I used to use Pompeian all the time but found some
cheaper ones even though Pompeian is relatively cheap anyway. I have
come now to use the Good Value brand from WalMart. I know it's not
quite up to snuff because it lacks the smell of the good extra virgin
olive oils I've liked. I do not know the brands. I'm like you, no
desire for expensive experiments to determine good quality. I use the
Good Value stuff and that's good enough for me. I used to insist that
the container be glass, now I've even dumped that demanding attitude.
It's oil, it works, the stuff I put it on is good, and I'm satisfied -
and as far as I'm concerned that makes me an expert. But when I said
I was an expert, I did not mean of brands and their names, I meant
only that upon smelling some olive oils in people's homes, such as my
grandparent's home, and elsewhere over time I have come to know the
oil I'm looking for by aroma. But since stores don't have an open &
sniff policy, for now the Good Value walmart stuff is good enough for
me.

TJ

On Aug 18, 8:08*am, George M. Middius > wrote:

> Do you worry about your mood swings?



I am the same all the time. It is you and your interpretation of
me that has mood swing problems, not me. Nothing mood-swingy about
telling a person his post made me laugh or that I enjoyed it. It's
just honesty. I wouldn't go so far as to call it mood swings. Your
malady is similar to that of people who tell other people, "You have a
bad attitude." I think if anyone has a bad attitude, it's the person
who openly accuses someone else of having one. Even worse is when
people call me negative. I am not negative, the people who see me
that way are. I may be cynical and forthright, but I overall I am far
more optomistic than most might think. I am also not manic/depressive
- although I suspect everyone has a touch of it to some degree. Your
interpretation of what you perceive as my malady is really your own
bouncing back in your face. You are mentally ill Mr. Middius. I am
studying to be a psychiatrist and am willing to let you be my first
client for a reduced rate or even for free the first session. Are you
down with it?

TJ

On Aug 18, 7:14*pm, "Farm1" > wrote:
"Tommy Joe" > wrote in message

> TJ:" * *I have used more olive oil in my life than the average American
> but I knew even at a young age that it did not go well with everything
> because it is as you say so dominant. *It's great on salad, especially
> extra virgin, for my tastes anyway. "
> _____________________________
> Snap! *I too love it on salad but I also add a drizzle of caramelised
> Balsemic - I find that combo just perfect on (most) salads.
>
> TJ: "But for cooking it can really
> screw up some things."
> ________________________________
> Like you, I don't like OO for cooking many things. *I'ts great in for any
> Italian type recipes but for most other recipes I' prefer to use Safflower
> oil or similar.


My grandparents on my fathers side were Arab and the entire family,
all of them were great cooks. They bought olive oil in large cans -
one for cooking, the other for salads and so forth. I remember only a
few months ago bringing home some cheapo chinese takeout food and
dolled it up with a few items, which I do often with great success -
but for some reason that one time I added just a bit of olive oil to
mix to make up for the added veggies I'd tossed in - and man oh man
did that ever ruin the meal. Yes, for some meals an almost tasteless
oil is best.

TJ

Sqwertz wrote:
>
> On Sat, 18 Aug 2012 06:27:40 -0400, Gary wrote:
> > I think you and sf need to kiss and make up rather than nym to contact her.
> > Did you say her real name is "Barbara?" It's time I learned such things.
> >
>
> OK, Gary. You can broker a kiss and make up deal between us. You are
> hereby appointed the arbitrator.
>
> -sw

I'll give it a try....
Hi sf! (and are you Barbara?)

As you know, the killfile only keeps you from reading things that Steve
doesn't care if you read or not. He occasionally nymshifts when he wants to
trick you into reading something. And you do read it.

I've never understood the whole Killfile thing and have never used it.
I guess it's the only power we have over people we don't like.
It's just a power thing......killfile....PLONK!

Even someone that might annoy you occasionally often says useful or
interesting things. We are like a family here. Do you shun (killfile) your
own family members?
I don't ignore boring threads either as they often shift to other subjects.

The one thing I like about RFC it that people can talk about things other
than food, like being sick, having an operation, moving to a new place, new
music, black bears in your yard, etc. Once you get to know people here and
they become "friends," it's only normal and nice to be able to talk to your
"friends" about anything in your life.

Many will tease you (and I do that) or strongly argue with your opinions.
You can joke them back or ignore but in a family you should listen to all,
imo

Rodney King: "Why can't we all be friends?" (and be awarded $3.8 million
dollars).

Gary

Tommy Joe wrote:
>
> I used to use Pompeian all the time but found some
> cheaper ones even though Pompeian is relatively cheap anyway. I have
> come now to use the Good Value brand from WalMart.

I think that's what Sheldon suggested and uses too.

So again, my question about Pompeian... So you've used it in the past.
Since you are familiar with EVOO, did the Pompeian taste right/authentic to
you? It has a stronger flavor than the new brand I bought.

I just need to go to that store a mile away sometime and sample all of their
cool olive oils and ask questions there.

I'm an EVOO semi-virgin myself. I don't know what it's supposed to taste
like.
If I've had bad stuff in the past, I'd like to try some good stuff to make
my final opinion.

Gary

Gary wrote:
>
> I've never understood the whole Killfile thing and have never used it.
> I guess it's the only power we have over people we don't like.
> It's just a power thing......killfile....PLONK!
>
> Even someone that might annoy you occasionally often says useful or
> interesting things. We are like a family here. Do you shun (killfile) your
> own family members?

Seriously? Anyone who behaves in the real world like trolls and
spammers on UseNet gets shunned by me. Or added to my blocked caller
list or whatever or even the cops called on them. Because of the
unmoderated natural of most Usenet groups the behavior of some of the
posters is so far outside the bounds of civil discourse if they did
that in person they'd end up in the psych ward for it.

Il 19/08/2012 05:14, Tommy Joe ha scritto:

> only that upon smelling some olive oils in people's homes, such as my
> grandparent's home, and elsewhere over time I have come to know the
> oil I'm looking for by aroma. But since stores don't have an open&
> sniff policy, for now the Good Value walmart stuff is good enough for
> me.

Look if you can find some EVO oil tasting, lots to learn in an easy and
pleasant way, and it won't be expensive unless the tasting is mixed in
with a dinner, but then you get the dinner too.

ViLco wrote:
>
> Il 19/08/2012 05:14, Tommy Joe ha scritto:
>
> > only that upon smelling some olive oils in people's homes, such as my
> > grandparent's home, and elsewhere over time I have come to know the
> > oil I'm looking for by aroma. But since stores don't have an open&
> > sniff policy, for now the Good Value walmart stuff is good enough for
> > me.
>
> Look if you can find some EVO oil tasting, lots to learn in an easy and
> pleasant way, and it won't be expensive unless the tasting is mixed in
> with a dinner, but then you get the dinner too.

Like I said, there is an olive oil store only about a mile from my house.
They offer free tasting of all. Once I go there (I'm waiting for a relevant
friend to visit that might enjoy the trip), I'll get to sample many kinds of
REAL olive oil and be able to ask questions.

It's all free but I'll buy a small bottle of something as is probably
expected.

Gary

http://hamptonroads.com/2011/07/beac...-complex-taste

Sqwertz wrote:
>
> On Sun, 19 Aug 2012 06:49:16 -0400, Gary wrote:
>
> > Sqwertz wrote:
> >>
> >> On Sat, 18 Aug 2012 06:27:40 -0400, Gary wrote:
> >>> I think you and sf need to kiss and make up rather than nym to contact her.
> >>> Did you say her real name is "Barbara?" It's time I learned such things.
> >>>
> >>
> >> OK, Gary. You can broker a kiss and make up deal between us. You are
> >> hereby appointed the arbitrator.
> >
> > I'll give it a try....
>
> I think I'm going to be sick.
>
> -sw

LOL! Well, I said my piece. '

G.

On Sun, 19 Aug 2012 09:16:20 +1000, "Farm1" >
wrote:

> Nym shifting to get attention yet again!!! What a desperate

I'll finish that sentence for you... attention whore.


--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

sf wrote:

> > Nym shifting to get attention yet again!!! What a desperate
>
> I'll finish that sentence for you... attention whore.

I heard sqwishy is frustrated again because his latest dose of HGH
didn't help.

On Aug 19, 7:23*am, Gary > wrote:

> I think that's what Sheldon suggested and uses too.
>
> So again, my question about Pompeian... *So you've used it in the past.
> Since you are familiar with EVOO, did the Pompeian taste right/authentic to
> you? *It has a stronger flavor than the new brand I bought.
>
> I just need to go to that store a mile away sometime and sample all of their
> cool olive oils and ask questions there.
>
> I'm an EVOO semi-virgin myself. I don't know what it's supposed to taste
> like.
> If I've had bad stuff in the past, I'd like to try some good stuff to make
> my final opinion.


I was half kidding when I said I was an olive oil expert, although
I've had many different types over the years, mostly at other people's
places, relatives and so forth, and never bothered to mark the brands
in my brain. It's a matter of taste. I also think maybe not all
bottles even of the same stuff is the same - a different batch maybe -
in the same way that some marijuana from the same plant may not be as
good as others of the same variety you used before - or a jalapeno
pepper being hotter at one purchase than at another. You may not like
the taste. I prefer the extra virgin for salads and tabouli and so
forth, but it's just a matter of taste. I use olive oil a lot, but as
I said before, on some things it's just overwhelming. I don't know
what to recommend olive oil wise. I have bought stuff from Lebanon at
the middle eastern shops I used to go to. Some was ok, some wasn't.
I just know what I like more by the smell than anything else. I guess
you might use the word fruity or nutty - I never considered EVOO as
being rancid as some have mentioned here. But for cooking I'd say use
regular olive oil or another type of oil altogether. It's almost like
you want to like the stuff and can't, kind of like me with LSD when I
tried it 4 different times and hated each experience yet went back to
try it again in the hopes of maybe suddenly becoming a fan of the
stuff. Actually, once it started wearing off I would be ok and would
actually like the feeling and would want more. But it was funny,
taking that stuff and feeling paranoid and swearing "never again", yet
stubbornly trying again to like it. But like you said the first time,
olive oil is strongly flavored, and if you don't care for the flavor I
would suggest using another oil altogether. When I said I was an
expert, I did not mean on brands - only that I've had a good deal of
the stuff. I got some from Lebanon that looked good because it had
sediment on the bottom that gave me an "oh yeah, this is the real
deal" feeling - but the taste did not live up to the appearance. It
was not expensive. You know from past exchanges that I'm not the sort
to go around spending money on pricey experiments. Sorry I can't be
of help.

TJ

On Aug 19, 8:32*am, ViLco > wrote:

> Look if you can find some EVO oil tasting, lots to learn in an easy and
> pleasant way, and it won't be expensive unless the tasting is mixed in
> with a dinner, but then you get the dinner too.


No argument there. I have had really good tasting olive oil at
relatives homes and other places - but I never made an effort to
remember the name. For my use the Good Value stuff is good enough
although upon opening it lacks the punch my nose normally associates
with "good" olive oil. But I don't need nor can I afford the best of
everything - not that the old adage "you get what you pay for" applies
in all cases, because it surely does not, especially when buying
athletic shoes and other over priced things. Thanks.

TJ

"Gary" > wrote in message
> I'll give it a try....
> Hi sf! (and are you Barbara?)
>
> As you know, the killfile only keeps you from reading things that Steve
> doesn't care if you read or not. He occasionally nymshifts when he wants
> to
> trick you into reading something. And you do read it.

Yes, he does do that. He must be really needy. That a grown person is so
needy that he nymshift is pathetic.

> I've never understood the whole Killfile thing and have never used it.
> I guess it's the only power we have over people we don't like.
> It's just a power thing......killfile....PLONK!

That's cheap and faulty psychology and limited reasoning. Fisrt there is
your assumption that people bother to use their killfile rather than jsut
pass over the sig on the post. Then there is your assumption that they do
so because it's about power.

> Even someone that might annoy you occasionally often says useful or
> interesting things. We are like a family here.

You must come from an extremely non-funtional family if that is how you see
htis group.

Do you shun (killfile) your
> own family members?
> I don't ignore boring threads either as they often shift to other
> subjects.

So what? Saying that is like declaring that you'd buy every magasine in the
newsagency because one of them may have one article that might interest you.

> The one thing I like about RFC it that people can talk about things other
> than food, like being sick, having an operation, moving to a new place,
> new
> music, black bears in your yard, etc. Once you get to know people here
> and
> they become "friends," it's only normal and nice to be able to talk to
> your
> "friends" about anything in your life.

Some people have real friends in their real lives. Why do you think such
people would also need to find virtual 'friends'?

> Many will tease you (and I do that) or strongly argue with your opinions.
> You can joke them back or ignore but in a family you should listen to all,
> imo

Indeed. It's your opinion. Others have different opinons and especially
about those who are so neeedy that they do that big no-no of usenet, namely,
nymshift.

"Doug Freyburger" > wrote in message
...
> Gary wrote:
>>
>> I've never understood the whole Killfile thing and have never used it.
>> I guess it's the only power we have over people we don't like.
>> It's just a power thing......killfile....PLONK!
>>
>> Even someone that might annoy you occasionally often says useful or
>> interesting things. We are like a family here. Do you shun (killfile)
>> your
>> own family members?
>
> Seriously? Anyone who behaves in the real world like trolls and
> spammers on UseNet gets shunned by me.

:-))) Same here. We have a member of my SOs family who is the real life
equivalent of a troll and a spammer.

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 19 Aug 2012 09:16:20 +1000, "Farm1" >
> wrote:
>
>> Nym shifting to get attention yet again!!! What a desperate
>
> I'll finish that sentence for you... attention whore.

Being described as "a desperate" is the finish of the sentence in Aus as
it's used as a noun. But I do prefer your addition :-))

Farm1 wrote:

> > Even someone that might annoy you occasionally often says useful or
> > interesting things. We are like a family here.
>
> You must come from an extremely non-funtional family if that is how you see
> htis group.

Also, note that Gary is "socially conservative". In this country, that
label usually means "wilfully ignorant".

I like olive oil.

But I'm happy with just boring old non-EV for cooking, as using EVOO on things has been replaced, to a degree, with unfiltered sunflower oil, which, IMHO, has a much more interesting flavor on salads and such. Pasta, though, asks for EVOO for finishing, as does good bread for dipping.

For light sauteing, olive oil or grapeseed. Deep fry-peanut or corn. In caste iron, though, I roll with bacon fat, baby!!

Gary wrote:

> I've never understood the whole Killfile thing and have never used it.
> I guess it's the only power we have over people we don't like.
> It's just a power thing......killfile....PLONK!

It's not a power thing, it's just to save time. No one thinks it works
100%, either, but again, every little bit helps, life is short, and why
not take a simple step that helps?

NB: I don't know the people I killfile and neither like nor dislike
them - I've just decided not to read any more of their posting than I
have to.

-S-

On Mon, 20 Aug 2012 10:01:01 -0400, "Steve Freides" >
wrote:

>Gary wrote:
>
>> I've never understood the whole Killfile thing and have never used it.
>> I guess it's the only power we have over people we don't like.
>> It's just a power thing......killfile....PLONK!
>
>It's not a power thing, it's just to save time. No one thinks it works
>100%, either, but again, every little bit helps, life is short, and why
>not take a simple step that helps?
>
>NB: I don't know the people I killfile and neither like nor dislike
>them - I've just decided not to read any more of their posting than I
>have to.

+1 to all that Steve said.

Jim

Steve Freides wrote:
>
> Gary wrote:
>
> > I've never understood the whole Killfile thing and have never used it.
> > I guess it's the only power we have over people we don't like.
> > It's just a power thing......killfile....PLONK!
>
> It's not a power thing, it's just to save time. No one thinks it works
> 100%, either, but again, every little bit helps, life is short, and why
> not take a simple step that helps?
>
> NB: I don't know the people I killfile and neither like nor dislike
> them - I've just decided not to read any more of their posting than I
> have to.
>
> -S-

Perhaps I just haven't been here long enough. I still read (or at least a
quick scan) of every post. As I said too, I don't disguard uninteresting
threads either as they can quickly morph to another subject.

G.

"George M. Middius" wrote:
>
> Farm1 wrote:
>
> > > Even someone that might annoy you occasionally often says useful or
> > > interesting things. We are like a family here.
> >
> > You must come from an extremely non-funtional family if that is how you see
> > htis group.
>
> Also, note that Gary is "socially conservative". In this country, that
> label usually means "wilfully ignorant".

Well George, going by the definition of "social conservative" on this site -
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_conservatism

Holy Crap!@
I was shocked to read that and think that you (or anyone else) thinks that
describes me. So wrong.
If you want to know more about my beliefs, please read those first 2
paragraphs and just know that I disagree with all that crap. seriously.

Once I took 2 semesters of Economics in college years ago, I tend to follow
the Republican beliefs of financial issues but that's where it ends. Once
the Republican party got in bed with the Religious Right, they lost me
bigtime.

Seriously....you read that 2nd paragraph and absolutely nothing there
applies to me. All of that moral crap is where they lost me years ago.

It's time you learn my real beliefs and quit assuming wrongly.
I just always try to believe in a (fantasy?) Disney world where everyone can
get along in peace. Even bad or annoying people have their good sides and i
look for that.

Geez!

G.

Gary > wrote in :

> Once I took 2 semesters of Economics in college years ago, I
> tend to follow the Republican beliefs of financial issues but
> that's where it ends. Once the Republican party got in bed
> with the Religious Right, they lost me bigtime.

Although two semesters of economics is not a lot, I suspect it's
a lot more than the current leaders of the gop.

We have two types of conservatives in Canada, the ones that
belonged to the old Progressive Conservative Party (yes, I know,
it's a oxymoron, but it's politics) who feel for the most part
disconnected from the bible thumping yahoos who have taken over.
One used to be able to have an intelligent conversation with a
Conservative (I remember the Joe Clark government had some bright
people), but it's no longer possible. They seem to be more like
angry little children who destroy things because they "don't like
them". And that is largely their basic policy. Destroy anything
they don't like.

--

Traditions are group efforts to keep the unexpected
from happening.

-- Barbara Tober

On Monday, August 20, 2012 10:10:43 AM UTC-6, Michel Boucher wrote:
> Gary > wrote in :
>
>
>
> > Once I took 2 semesters of Economics in college years ago, I
>
> > tend to follow the Republican beliefs of financial issues but
>
> > that's where it ends. Once the Republican party got in bed
>
> > with the Religious Right, they lost me bigtime.
>
>
>
> Although two semesters of economics is not a lot, I suspect it's
>
> a lot more than the current leaders of the gop.
>
>
>
> We have two types of conservatives in Canada, the ones that
>
> belonged to the old Progressive Conservative Party (yes, I know,
>
> it's a oxymoron, but it's politics) who feel for the most part
>
> disconnected from the bible thumping yahoos who have taken over.
>
> One used to be able to have an intelligent conversation with a
>
> Conservative (I remember the Joe Clark government had some bright
>
> people), but it's no longer possible. They seem to be more like
>
> angry little children who destroy things because they "don't like
>
> them". And that is largely their basic policy. Destroy anything
>
> they don't like.
>
>
>
> --
>
>
>
> Traditions are group efforts to keep the unexpected
>
> from happening.
>
>
>
> -- Barbara Tober

Michel you are so right...these new CONservatives want to destroy
everything they don't like. Nothing like angry little evangelicals
when it comes to vengeful government policy.

A pox on them, I say.

====

Gary wrote:

> Perhaps I just haven't been here long enough. I still read (or at
> least a quick scan) of every post.

As did we all at one point. We also, at one point, each prided
ourselves on our democratic, non-exclusionary character in doing so.
More power to you if it's what you wish to continue to do.

> As I said too, I don't disguard

discard

> uninteresting threads either as they can quickly morph to another
> subject.

I rarely ignore an entire thread unless it's one I was interested in
that takes on another subject and life of its own, in which case I keep
reading it only if the change of subject is of interest to me -
sometimes it is, sometimes it isn't. The most common reason for me to
ignore a thread is when it becomes a private conversation between a few,
usually just two, people - that's what G-d invented email for.

-S-

"Steve Freides" > wrote in
:

> The most common reason for me to
> ignore a thread is when it becomes a private conversation
> between a few, usually just two, people - that's what G-d
> invented email for.

So this G-d person is Ray Tomlinson?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ray_Tomlinson

--

Traditions are group efforts to keep the unexpected
from happening.

-- Barbara Tober

Michel Boucher wrote:

> We have two types of conservatives in Canada, the ones that
> belonged to the old Progressive Conservative Party (yes, I know,
> it's a oxymoron, but it's politics) who feel for the most part
> disconnected from the bible thumping yahoos who have taken over.
> One used to be able to have an intelligent conversation with a
> Conservative (I remember the Joe Clark government had some bright
> people), but it's no longer possible. They seem to be more like
> angry little children who destroy things because they "don't like
> them". And that is largely their basic policy. Destroy anything
> they don't like.

We recently suffered the same growth in the U.S. Here they call
themselves "the tea party". They're a retread of the same old
collection of bible-thumpers, recovering addicts, and ignoramuses who
can't figure out how to make a decent living. In the 19th century they
actually called themselves the "Know-Nothings".

Gary wrote:

> LOL! And so very true. No matter what one party accomplishes, the other
> party cuts it down. lol!

No, Gary, it's not like that. It's the ****ing Republicans who want to
destroy social progress. The Democrats don't try to destroy programs
just because the other party started them. Look at HUD, Energy, and
Homeland Security -- all created by Republican presidents and all
supported enthusiastically by generations of Democrats.

If you want me or others to believe you're not an airhead, you should
take a breather from the loony right-wing echo chamber and tune in to
how smart people think. If you do that for one hour per week, you may
learn something to broaden your provincial perspective.

On Thursday, August 16, 2012 8:05:01 PM UTC-5, Tommy Joe wrote:
>
> Now think about the term "extra virgin" for a minute, and how phony it
>
> sounds. Oh, I see, it's not just virgin, it's extra virgin. I wonder
>
> if the same categories exist in the world of human virgins - that some
>
> are just virgins while others are "extra" virgin.
>

Of course there are.

For example, the 9/11 jihadists killed so many infidels that they are entitled to 70 "extra virgins," as opposed to the 70 regular virgins that lower level suicide bombers get--you know, like the ones who just kill a few innocent Israeli men, women and children.
>
> TJ

--Bryan, r.f.c. resident scholar in comparative religions