Sqwertz wrote:
> On Thu, 16 Aug 2012 21:06:20 -0700, Julie Bove wrote:
>
>> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Thu, 16 Aug 2012 14:38:46 -0500, Ema Nymton wrote:
>>>
>>>> In Walmart, I noticed a large display, near the cash registers, of
>>>> a 12-Day Emergency Food Survival Kit. It guarantees you 2,063 per
>>>> day, and it was $68. I assume this is for one person. I wonder who
>>>> would buy this?
>>>
>>> Plenty of people would buy those. At one time they sold a 55gal
>>> drum at CoctCo full of a variety of freeze dried food. I think it
>>> cost about $200. It might have been pre Y2K.
>>
>> Costco still sells emergency food and they even sell shelving type
>> dispensers for them.
>
> Holly shit. Online they have all sorts of stuff. Here's the biggest
> item I could find - a 4 year supply of food for $3,500. 30-,144
> servings of food.
>
> http://www.costco.com/Browse/Product...rodid=11763436
>
> They also have dozens of individual buckets of single item stuff as
> well as assortments.
>
> I bet somebody could do a documentary about living off of this stuff.
> Similar to "Oversize Me!" - to see how healthy it really is and if the
> serving sizes really pan out as advertised.

Yes. And some of the schools do buy that sort of stuff to keep for
emergencies. Angela's school did not. For several years we were each
required to send in an emergency package of food and drink. The package
could only be a certain size and it was very specific as to the types of
foods they would allow in there. And yet... They wanted something that
would keep until the end of the school year. But one suggested food was
granola bars. Although granola bars do keep for several months, I don't
know of any that would keep until the end of the year. A big problem was
with some of the foreign parents who would send in something like lumpia or
other fresh foods because they didn't understand.

Thankfully they did away with the emergency rations. We always had to go
out looking for things with far away expiration dates that weren't things
she would normally eat. And then of course they never used them and then
one day would come and they would pass out all the packages and tell the
kids that they could just go ahead and eat what was in there and drink the
warm juice or water. On top of their lunch!

I was told by a mother whose kid is in another district that they didn't
want all that stuff coming from home so they required each parent to send in
a certain dollar amount to cover emergency food and drinks.

My daughter is in Jr. High now and apparently they no longer care if the
kids have food and drinks in an emergency. Because they didn't ask us to
send anything in.

I do like the rack systems that Costco sells but I think they will only work
with the size of cans for their emergency foods and those things are pretty
big. So I don't think they would work for me.

Paul M. Cook wrote:
> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
> ...
>> I could just see it coming! Personally I disagree with some of the
>> things on the list. I know that some people like frozen bread. I
>> do not, although I do freeze the extra slices that are about to go
>> bad and I will use them later for stuffing. It's fine for that. And any
>> time that I buy extra chips or pretzel, they go bad before
>> we can eat them. But for sure I am getting some of that whole wheat
>> pasta from Costco and some extra beans, popcorn and canned stuff.
>>
>> http://frugalliving.about.com/od/sto...he-Drought.htm
>
>
> Water.

I always keep that.

In article >
Ema Nymton > writes:
>
>In Walmart, I noticed a large display, near the cash registers, of a
>12-Day Emergency Food Survival Kit. It guarantees you 2,063 per day, and
>it was $68. I assume this is for one person. I wonder who would buy this?

Lots of people, and this isn't new. There has been an
emergency/survivalist market for a couple generations. I remember
plenty of ads for nitrogen packed wheat and hand grinders in Organic
Gardening and Farming (back in the days of the small format and
non-glossy pages) in the early '70s.

It may have taken a dip in the years since the USA and USSR were
competing to build the biggest nuke, but it never went away.

I like stocking up a bit on non-perishables, but it is more a hedge
against a missed paycheck than preparation for a disaster.

--
Drew Lawson
"Please understand that we are considerably less interested
in you than you are."
-- Madeleine Page, on the deep truths of alt.folklore.urban

On 2012-08-17, gloria p > wrote:

> We traded it in on a VW Rabbit, the only lemon we've owned.

In about '95, I bought a '82 rabbit diesel fer $400. It got it as a
beater/commute car standing in for my dodge van, which only got about
10-12 mpg. The rabbit was a mess, coming from the midwest, and was
dented and rusty from salt. Sure, it had a couple problems, like the
diesel starting system sometimes flaking out, or the brakes seizing up
exactly like my old '62 bug. But that sucker got 40 mpg and had the
most awesomely comfortable seats of any car I've owned before or
since. I literally beat it to death, driving 70-90 miles per day for
4-1/2 yrs. It finally died an ignoble death, virtually
disintergrating like the Bluesmobile, in the movie, The Blues
Brothers. Cost me $400 in repairs to sell it fer $250!

I'd buy another one in a heartbeat.

nb

--
Definition of objectivism:
"Eff you! I got mine."
http://www.nongmoproject.org/

On Thu, 16 Aug 2012 20:48:06 -0400, Brooklyn1 <Gravesend1> wrote:

snip
.. I also love olive loaf, one cat likes that.
snip

Olive loaf is getting so hard to find out here and really expensive.
All the good, old timey stuff is gone.
Janet US

On Thu, 16 Aug 2012 20:37:48 -0600, gloria p >
wrote:

>On 8/16/2012 1:35 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>> On Thu, 16 Aug 2012 08:28:31 -0500, "Pete C." >
>
>>
>> Lately I'm seeing ads on the tube about the new VW Beetle being back,
>> price $19,759.00. In 1972 I bought a brand new VW Beetle for
>> $1,950.00.
>>
>
>
>
>We bought our 1968 Beetle in Sept.'67 for $1600. We had it till 1984.
>We got rid of it because the exhaust was leaking into the passenger
>compartment.

With the motor in the rear it would have to have been a very bad leak
for fumes to enter the passenger compartment, in fact the passenger
compartment heat exchanger would have to have rotted through too...
being an air cooled engine the passenger compartment got heat off the
engine exhaust and no heat flowed unless the car was moving, there was
no fan. In freezing weather one had to wear arctic clothing, the bug
gave very meager heat.

>Every teenager in the neighborhood wanted it but we
>wouldn't sell it to a kid who wouldn't get the exhaust repaired.
>We traded it in on a VW Rabbit, the only lemon we've owned.

The beetle exhaust system was fairly inexpensive, the motor being in
the rear, and for the average teen a simple DIY project... most teens
added fancy hotrod type exhausts anyway. The part on a beetle that
typically needed replacement and would be very dangerous not to was
the front axle, it was just two thin sheetmetal stampings spot welded
together, very prone to rusting out, with the front end suddenly
collapsing.

On Thu, 16 Aug 2012 14:38:46 -0500, Ema Nymton >
wrote:

>On 8/16/2012 4:17 AM, Farm1 wrote:
>
>>> Did you stockpile anything at all?
>>
>> No. Mind you, live in the country so we supply our own water, have a good
>> vegetable garden, keep poultry and I always keep a well stocked pantry.
>
>No food is stockpiled at my house, either.
>
>In Walmart, I noticed a large display, near the cash registers, of a
>12-Day Emergency Food Survival Kit. It guarantees you 2,063 per day, and
>it was $68. I assume this is for one person. I wonder who would buy this?
>
>Becca
>

Folks who live in hurricane or earthquake prone areas, for a couple of
examples. I would expect those who live in isolated, rural, areas
already deal with infrequent visits to grocery stores and
self-preserved foods, so they might not use them.

On Thu, 16 Aug 2012 23:49:51 -0500, Sqwertz >
wrote:

>On Thu, 16 Aug 2012 21:06:20 -0700, Julie Bove wrote:
>
>> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Thu, 16 Aug 2012 14:38:46 -0500, Ema Nymton wrote:
>>>
>>>> In Walmart, I noticed a large display, near the cash registers, of a
>>>> 12-Day Emergency Food Survival Kit. It guarantees you 2,063 per day, and
>>>> it was $68. I assume this is for one person. I wonder who would buy this?
>>>
>>> Plenty of people would buy those. At one time they sold a 55gal drum
>>> at CoctCo full of a variety of freeze dried food. I think it cost
>>> about $200. It might have been pre Y2K.
>>
>> Costco still sells emergency food and they even sell shelving type
>> dispensers for them.
>
>Holly shit. Online they have all sorts of stuff. Here's the biggest
>item I could find - a 4 year supply of food for $3,500. 30-,144
>servings of food.
>
>http://www.costco.com/Browse/Product...rodid=11763436
>
>They also have dozens of individual buckets of single item stuff as
>well as assortments.
>
>I bet somebody could do a documentary about living off of this stuff.
>Similar to "Oversize Me!" - to see how healthy it really is and if the
>serving sizes really pan out as advertised.
>
>-sw

Haven't thought about a documentary, but I live on this stuff for
about three-four weeks every year on backpacking trips. I buy mostly
from Mountain House in #10 cans (gal) and repackage for my own idea of
what and how much to eat.

It seems to be nourishing, does keep very well, and, if you are not
too picky, is not so bad to eat. Some things freeze-dry a whole lot
better than others. Kernel corn, for example, does well. Potatoes,
at least in chunks, almost never fully hydrate.

I tried some of the brand that CostCo sells and did not find it to be
as tasty as Mountain House. I guess the convenience of their planning
for the longer term and greater variety might be an advantage if you
were planning to maroon yourself on a desert island or float to Fiji
on a raft...

On Fri, 17 Aug 2012 08:03:13 -0600, Janet Bostwick
> wrote:

>On Thu, 16 Aug 2012 20:48:06 -0400, Brooklyn1 <Gravesend1> wrote:
>
>snip
>. I also love olive loaf, one cat likes that.
>snip
>
>Olive loaf is getting so hard to find out here and really expensive.
>All the good, old timey stuff is gone.
>Janet US

In the NY area good cold cuts are readily available, but in much of
the US there were never any good cold cuts. When I was in other areas
of the country I was amazed at what folks considered quality deli.

z z wrote:
>
> I have said for years this country should invest in a water pipeline
> network.

<snip rant>

> We should have rain collection systems built into our highways.

We already do. They are called storm sewers. You'll see them on every
street.

G.

Gary wrote:

> > We should have rain collection systems built into our highways.
>
> We already do. They are called storm sewers. You'll see them on every
> street.

RCD strikes again!

For the benefit of the fatally stupid (naming no names here), the
context the OP suggested *capturing* runoff, not diverting it. Duh.

On Fri, 17 Aug 2012 13:28:02 -0400, Brooklyn1 <Gravesend1> wrote:

>On Fri, 17 Aug 2012 08:03:13 -0600, Janet Bostwick
> wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 16 Aug 2012 20:48:06 -0400, Brooklyn1 <Gravesend1> wrote:
>>
>>snip
>>. I also love olive loaf, one cat likes that.
>>snip
>>
>>Olive loaf is getting so hard to find out here and really expensive.
>>All the good, old timey stuff is gone.
>>Janet US
>
>In the NY area good cold cuts are readily available, but in much of
>the US there were never any good cold cuts. When I was in other areas
>of the country I was amazed at what folks considered quality deli.

I know you like Boar's Head, but I really think it is middle of the
road. But, to your point, once you cross the Mississippi River, food
generally sucks.
Janet US

"George M. Middius" wrote:
>
> Gary wrote:
>
> > > We should have rain collection systems built into our highways.
> >
> > We already do. They are called storm sewers. You'll see them on every
> > street.
>
> RCD strikes again!
>
> For the benefit of the fatally stupid (naming no names here), the
> context the OP suggested *capturing* runoff, not diverting it. Duh.

Would you like to capture and drink storm sewer runoff?

Gary

On 8/17/2012 3:32 PM, Janet Bostwick wrote:
> On Fri, 17 Aug 2012 13:28:02 -0400, Brooklyn1 <Gravesend1> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 17 Aug 2012 08:03:13 -0600, Janet Bostwick
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 16 Aug 2012 20:48:06 -0400, Brooklyn1 <Gravesend1> wrote:
>>>
>>> snip
>>> . I also love olive loaf, one cat likes that.
>>> snip
>>>
>>> Olive loaf is getting so hard to find out here and really expensive.
>>> All the good, old timey stuff is gone.
>>> Janet US
>>
>> In the NY area good cold cuts are readily available, but in much of
>> the US there were never any good cold cuts. When I was in other areas
>> of the country I was amazed at what folks considered quality deli.
>
> I know you like Boar's Head, but I really think it is middle of the
> road. But, to your point, once you cross the Mississippi River, food
> generally sucks.
> Janet US
>

You can do OK in the Chicago area in places like this:

http://www.panozzositalianmarket.com/

Or this place in St Louis (I used to fly into Lambert to go to Granite
City, IL and would swing past this place on the way):

http://www.volpifoods.com/

Or this place up in Milwaukee (we would stop here on the way to the air
show in Oshkosh):

http://www.gloriosos.com/

Gary wrote:

> > > > We should have rain collection systems built into our highways.
> > >
> > > We already do. They are called storm sewers. You'll see them on every
> > > street.
> >
> > RCD strikes again!
> >
> > For the benefit of the fatally stupid (naming no names here), the
> > context the OP suggested *capturing* runoff, not diverting it. Duh.
>
> Would you like to capture and drink storm sewer runoff?

Sorry, this year's Dumbass Of The Year award has already been locked
up -- by Sh-sh-shelley, of course.

On Fri, 17 Aug 2012 16:02:16 -0400, George >
wrote:

>On 8/17/2012 3:32 PM, Janet Bostwick wrote:
>> On Fri, 17 Aug 2012 13:28:02 -0400, Brooklyn1 <Gravesend1> wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, 17 Aug 2012 08:03:13 -0600, Janet Bostwick
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Thu, 16 Aug 2012 20:48:06 -0400, Brooklyn1 <Gravesend1> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> snip
>>>> . I also love olive loaf, one cat likes that.
>>>> snip
>>>>
>>>> Olive loaf is getting so hard to find out here and really expensive.
>>>> All the good, old timey stuff is gone.
>>>> Janet US
>>>
>>> In the NY area good cold cuts are readily available, but in much of
>>> the US there were never any good cold cuts. When I was in other areas
>>> of the country I was amazed at what folks considered quality deli.
>>
>> I know you like Boar's Head, but I really think it is middle of the
>> road. But, to your point, once you cross the Mississippi River, food
>> generally sucks.
>> Janet US
>>
>
>You can do OK in the Chicago area in places like this:
>
>http://www.panozzositalianmarket.com/
>
>Or this place in St Louis (I used to fly into Lambert to go to Granite
>City, IL and would swing past this place on the way):
>
>http://www.volpifoods.com/
>
>Or this place up in Milwaukee (we would stop here on the way to the air
>show in Oshkosh):
>
>http://www.gloriosos.com/

check your map and see where the Mississippi is, you've made my point.
Janet US

On 8/16/2012 9:37 PM, gloria p wrote:

> We bought our 1968 Beetle in Sept.'67 for $1600. We had it till 1984.
> We got rid of it because the exhaust was leaking into the passenger
> compartment. Every teenager in the neighborhood wanted it but we
> wouldn't sell it to a kid who wouldn't get the exhaust repaired.
> We traded it in on a VW Rabbit, the only lemon we've owned.
>
> gloria p


My brother picked out my first car, because he was moving out of state.
He chose a Camaro, with racing stripes, then he put glass packs on it,
which looked cool and made the car sound neat, but they were not very
good at muffling sound. The car was a 4 in the floor, and the first time
I drove it, he had replaced the gear shift knob with an 8-ball - it
looked like a boys car, but I loved it because he picked it out. Of
course he was my hero, he was my big brother.

Becca

On 8/16/2012 4:00 PM, Gary wrote:

> Years ago, I had a friend...an old widow in her 70's. A hurricane was on
> the way and she told me she went out to buy the essentials....whiskey and
> cigarettes. heheheh
>
> And she was serious too. :-D
>
> G


We have had a few good hurricane parties. Honestly, most people are just
overjoyed that their property did not flood or blow away. The neighbors
get together, even neighbors you have not met, yet. Nobody has
electricity, so you begin eating the most valuable foods first, like
steak, shrimp, and of course, you have to eat the ice cream before it
melts. :-) It is just a big party. Most people can not work, because
they do not have power there, either. We play cards, dominoes, mix a few
drinks, enjoy spending time with your friends and neighbors, it is fun,
because you make it fun. What else can you do.

Becca

"Brooklyn1" <Gravesend1> wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 17 Aug 2012 08:03:13 -0600, Janet Bostwick
> > wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 16 Aug 2012 20:48:06 -0400, Brooklyn1 <Gravesend1> wrote:
>>
>>snip
>>. I also love olive loaf, one cat likes that.
>>snip
>>
>>Olive loaf is getting so hard to find out here and really expensive.
>>All the good, old timey stuff is gone.
>>Janet US
>
> In the NY area good cold cuts are readily available, but in much of
> the US there were never any good cold cuts. When I was in other areas
> of the country I was amazed at what folks considered quality deli.

The deli concept is a fairly new one at many stores here. When I was a kid
I don't think any stores had a deli. I didn't even know what cold cuts
were. We had bologna. Once in a while, olive loaf. When I was in Jr. High
I discovered Buddig meats which I think are really pretty bad but I do know
some people who like them.

The first deli department I remember seeing was in Albertsons. I never
bought anything directly from there but once in a while I would buy a
package of their cheese ends that I used for casseroles and things. I have
never seen any cheese ends since then. And never any meat ends here
although I have seen them in PA. This would have been probably 25 years ago
or so.

Since that time I have bought deli meat maybe twice. I don't think it was
any better than some of the package stuff. But some of the packaged stuff
is right horrible! I think one that we bought was the Sara Lee brand.
Tasted awful.

"Farm1" :

> "The Other Guy" > wrote :

>> HOW do you stockpile eggs and cheese??

> A couple of old fashioned ways of keeping eggs for months was a) to rub
> them with vaseline/coat them in wax and then store them buried in bran or,
> alternatively 2) put them in a bucket (pail) covered in a Waterglass
> solution.

Nope - you put them in earthenware jugs.
Use 4,5 liters of waters with 500 milli-liters of waterglass solution.
(Waterglass destroys glass).
Brush the eggs, don't wash them. Put them pointed-side down in the jug.
Pour in the solution until the fluid is 2 centimeters above the eggs.
(5 liters should be enough for roughly 100 eggs).
Keep them cool.
Lasts between 3 and 6 months.

Cheers,

Michael Kuettner

"Michael Kuettner" > wrote in message
...
> "Farm1" :
>> "The Other Guy" > wrote :
>
>>> HOW do you stockpile eggs and cheese??
>
>> A couple of old fashioned ways of keeping eggs for months was a) to rub
>> them with vaseline/coat them in wax and then store them buried in bran
>> or, alternatively 2) put them in a bucket (pail) covered in a Waterglass
>> solution.
>
> Nope - you put them in earthenware jugs.

So what is wrong with a stainless steel bucket or a plastic bucket?

On 8/16/2012 3:35 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:

> Lately I'm seeing ads on the tube about the new VW Beetle being back,
> price $19,759.00. In 1972 I bought a brand new VW Beetle for
> $1,950.00.

Back in the late 70s my dad had a Datson little boxy looking car that he
bought new for ~$3000.

On 8/17/2012 12:49 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
> Holly shit. Online they have all sorts of stuff. Here's the biggest
> item I could find - a 4 year supply of food for $3,500. 30-,144
> servings of food.
>
> http://www.costco.com/Browse/Product...rodid=11763436
>
They are probably very popular with survivalists. This kind of weirded
me out though:

"Shipment arrives on a pallet that is black-wrapped for security and
privacy"

> They also have dozens of individual buckets of single item stuff as
> well as assortments.
>
> I bet somebody could do a documentary about living off of this stuff.
> Similar to "Oversize Me!" - to see how healthy it really is and if the
> serving sizes really pan out as advertised.

On Fri, 17 Aug 2012 23:15:08 -0400, Cheryl >
wrote:

>On 8/16/2012 3:35 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>
>> Lately I'm seeing ads on the tube about the new VW Beetle being back,
>> price $19,759.00. In 1972 I bought a brand new VW Beetle for
>> $1,950.00.
>
>Back in the late 70s my dad had a Datson little boxy looking car that he
>bought new for ~$3000.

I bought a brand new '68 Biscayne stick w/409 for $2,400.00.
My brand new '66 TR4A cost $2,800.00. In '90 I bought a brand new '91
fully loaded Landcruiser; $28,500.00... today a new one goes for over
$80K. I still drive it, only has 85,000 miles... I just last week
invested in a whole new exhaust system, a full tune-up, lube, topped
off the A/C, and State Inspection... runs better than new... cost
$2,800.00, same as I paid for my new TR4A, was it worth it,
absolutely, can't even buy a moped for that today.

I think gas is so expensive because folks drive far more than is
necessary, by at least double... every automobile has become a
recreational vehical, folks are more than ever driving strictly for
entertainment, no one stays home anymore.

Brooklyn1 wrote:
>
> On Thu, 16 Aug 2012 17:02:23 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>
> >Brooklyn1 wrote:
> >>
> >> For protracted emergencies it's better to stockpile beer.
> >> And it's very easy to stockpile fresh meat without refrigeration,
> >> SPAM.
> >
> >You are da man, Sheldon!
>
> Was getting late so I didn't feel like cooking the pork chops, so
> instead I popped the lid on a 12oz can of SPAM, was enough for two
> sandwiches and some for three of my cats.

LOL! I actually bought a 120z can of it yesterday. When I open it, I'll see
if Jackie likes it. She loves to taste my food, the younger one, Mia,
usually won't. She prefers the official ferret food.

And speaking of the official ferret food, I went out Thursday to buy the
quarterly ferret food mix. I buy 3 different kinds then mix it all together
to feed them for 3 months. It's expensive to buy 3 kinds all at once but is
cheap considering that the mix will feed 2 ferrets for 3 months. About $3 a
week, per ferret.

Gary

"Cheryl" > wrote in message
...
> On 8/17/2012 12:49 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
>> Holly shit. Online they have all sorts of stuff. Here's the biggest
>> item I could find - a 4 year supply of food for $3,500. 30-,144
>> servings of food.
>>
>> http://www.costco.com/Browse/Product...rodid=11763436
>>
> They are probably very popular with survivalists. This kind of weirded me
> out though:
>
> "Shipment arrives on a pallet that is black-wrapped for security and
> privacy"

:-)) Having wandered around many survivalist sites, some of them are
heavily into 'extreme security and privacy'. In fact 'paranoia' would be
closer to an accurate description for some of them. I prefer the sites
which generally describe themselves as 'preppers' who are more like normal
country people or Scouts - well organised and well prepared.

On 16/08/2012 5:51 PM, merryb wrote:
> On Aug 15, 7:36 pm, "Julie Bove" > wrote:
>> I could just see it coming! Personally I disagree with some of the things
>> on the list. I know that some people like frozen bread. I do not, although
>> I do freeze the extra slices that are about to go bad and I will use them
>> later for stuffing. It's fine for that. And any time that I buy extra
>> chips or pretzel, they go bad before we can eat them. But for sure I am
>> getting some of that whole wheat pasta from Costco and some extra beans,
>> popcorn and canned stuff.
>>
>> http://frugalliving.about.com/od/sto...Stockpile-Due-...
>
> This is not making a impact here like it is in the rest of the US,
> Julie- it's just a bit warm today. I'm sure we will see some costs
> rise in the near future because of the rest of the country, but we are
> pretty fortunate here in the Pacific NW. You should be prepared for an
> earthquake, tho.
>

I live in the Niagara Peninsula where extreme weather systems and other
natural disasters are all but unheard of. We have had a very dry
summer. We had a freakish warm spell that caused fruit trees to blossom
prematurely and then when the temperatures ducked back down to normal
the blossoms froze. The worst hit were the cherries, especially sour
cherries. There was basically no cherry crop this year.

The forecast for the hay crop was pretty dismal. The first cutting was
fine, but there were concerns for the second cutting, since it just
wasn't growing back. However, we had a decent amount of rain over the
last two weeks and if the hay fields down the road from my house are any
indication, the hay bounced right back. Farmer John who runs the
nursery behind my house planted sorghum as a cover crop. He wasn't sure
it was even going to sprout, having been planted mid July, but it did,
and over the past week it has been growing about 6 inches per day.

While the peach trees lost some of their blossoms, there were still lots
of peaches. The first batch out were small but very tasty. When I went
to the local orchard that sells sour cherry juice I was amazed at the
size of the peaches they were growing. They were huge, and they were not
even close to ripe enough to pick.

On 8/15/2012 10:36 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
> I could just see it coming! Personally I disagree with some of the things
> on the list. I know that some people like frozen bread. I do not, although
> I do freeze the extra slices that are about to go bad and I will use them
> later for stuffing. It's fine for that. And any time that I buy extra
> chips or pretzel, they go bad before we can eat them. But for sure I am
> getting some of that whole wheat pasta from Costco and some extra beans,
> popcorn and canned stuff.
>
> http://frugalliving.about.com/od/sto...he-Drought.htm
>
>
I'm sorry you're in a drought area. Where I live has been inundated
with rain. But you can't stockpile eggs unless you eat a hell of a lot
of them. Egg Beaters or whatever, sure. The eggs in the carton can be
frozen, no problem.

I have no problem with freezing bread. I eat so little of it (nope, I'm
not low-carbing - I simply don't eat much bread). I buy it on sale and
freeze it. I'll occasionally have a slice of bread with an egg or two
for breakfast, maybe once a week.

I only have gallons of water "stockpiled" because I live in a hurricane
zone. And it's been raining like crazy here for the entire month!
(Sorry to all you drought-stricken folks.) I don't drink bottled water.
I drink tap water. Bottled water has got to be the biggest ripoff on
the planet.

Jill

On Aug 21, 9:01*am, jmcquown > wrote:
> On 8/15/2012 10:36 PM, Julie Bove wrote:> I could just see it coming! *Personally I disagree with some of the things
> > on the list. *I know that some people like frozen bread. *I do not, although
> > I do freeze the extra slices that are about to go bad and I will use them
> > later for stuffing. *It's fine for that. *And any time that I buy extra
> > chips or pretzel, they go bad before we can eat them. *But for sure I am
> > getting some of that whole wheat pasta from Costco and some extra beans,
> > popcorn and canned stuff.
>
> >http://frugalliving.about.com/od/sto...Stockpile-Due-...
>
> I'm sorry you're in a drought area. *Where I live has been inundated
> with rain. *But you can't stockpile eggs unless you eat a hell of a lot
> of them. *Egg Beaters or whatever, sure. *The eggs in the carton can be
> frozen, no problem.
>
> I have no problem with freezing bread. *I eat so little of it (nope, I'm
> not low-carbing - I simply don't eat much bread). *I buy it on sale and
> freeze it. *I'll occasionally have a slice of bread with an egg or two
> for breakfast, maybe once a week.
>
> I only have gallons of water "stockpiled" because I live in a hurricane
> zone. *And it's been raining like crazy here for the entire month!
> (Sorry to all you drought-stricken folks.) *I don't drink bottled water..
> * I drink tap water. *Bottled water has got to be the biggest ripoff on
> the planet.
>
> Jill

Julie is not in an area affected by the drought....

merryb wrote:
> On Aug 21, 9:01 am, jmcquown > wrote:
>> On 8/15/2012 10:36 PM, Julie Bove wrote:> I could just see it
>> coming! Personally I disagree with some of the things
>>> on the list. I know that some people like frozen bread. I do not,
>>> although I do freeze the extra slices that are about to go bad and
>>> I will use them later for stuffing. It's fine for that. And any
>>> time that I buy extra chips or pretzel, they go bad before we can
>>> eat them. But for sure I am getting some of that whole wheat pasta
>>> from Costco and some extra beans, popcorn and canned stuff.
>>
>>> http://frugalliving.about.com/od/sto...Stockpile-Due-...
>>
>> I'm sorry you're in a drought area. Where I live has been inundated
>> with rain. But you can't stockpile eggs unless you eat a hell of a
>> lot
>> of them. Egg Beaters or whatever, sure. The eggs in the carton can be
>> frozen, no problem.
>>
>> I have no problem with freezing bread. I eat so little of it (nope,
>> I'm
>> not low-carbing - I simply don't eat much bread). I buy it on sale
>> and
>> freeze it. I'll occasionally have a slice of bread with an egg or two
>> for breakfast, maybe once a week.
>>
>> I only have gallons of water "stockpiled" because I live in a
>> hurricane
>> zone. And it's been raining like crazy here for the entire month!
>> (Sorry to all you drought-stricken folks.) I don't drink bottled
>> water.
>> I drink tap water. Bottled water has got to be the biggest ripoff on
>> the planet.
>>
>> Jill
>
> Julie is not in an area affected by the drought....

I'm not but they say it will affect food prices for the whole country.

Julie Bove wrote:
>
> merryb wrote:
> > On Aug 21, 9:01 am, jmcquown > wrote:
> >> On 8/15/2012 10:36 PM, Julie Bove wrote:> I could just see it
> >> coming! Personally I disagree with some of the things
> >>> on the list. I know that some people like frozen bread. I do not,
> >>> although I do freeze the extra slices that are about to go bad and
> >>> I will use them later for stuffing. It's fine for that. And any
> >>> time that I buy extra chips or pretzel, they go bad before we can
> >>> eat them. But for sure I am getting some of that whole wheat pasta
> >>> from Costco and some extra beans, popcorn and canned stuff.
> >>
> >>> http://frugalliving.about.com/od/sto...Stockpile-Due-...
> >>
> >> I'm sorry you're in a drought area. Where I live has been inundated
> >> with rain. But you can't stockpile eggs unless you eat a hell of a
> >> lot
> >> of them. Egg Beaters or whatever, sure. The eggs in the carton can be
> >> frozen, no problem.
> >>
> >> I have no problem with freezing bread. I eat so little of it (nope,
> >> I'm
> >> not low-carbing - I simply don't eat much bread). I buy it on sale
> >> and
> >> freeze it. I'll occasionally have a slice of bread with an egg or two
> >> for breakfast, maybe once a week.
> >>
> >> I only have gallons of water "stockpiled" because I live in a
> >> hurricane
> >> zone. And it's been raining like crazy here for the entire month!
> >> (Sorry to all you drought-stricken folks.) I don't drink bottled
> >> water.
> >> I drink tap water. Bottled water has got to be the biggest ripoff on
> >> the planet.
> >>
> >> Jill
> >
> > Julie is not in an area affected by the drought....
>
> I'm not but they say it will affect food prices for the whole country.

Buy lots of beans before it's too late!@

G.

On Tue, 21 Aug 2012 17:07:14 -0400, Gary > wrote:

> Julie Bove wrote:
> >
> > merryb wrote:
> > >
> > > Julie is not in an area affected by the drought....
> >
> > I'm not but they say it will affect food prices for the whole country.
>
> Buy lots of beans before it's too late!@
>
You'll need to stockpile lots of water to cook them.


--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> merryb wrote:
>> > On Aug 21, 9:01 am, jmcquown > wrote:
>> >> On 8/15/2012 10:36 PM, Julie Bove wrote:> I could just see it
>> >> coming! Personally I disagree with some of the things
>> >>> on the list. I know that some people like frozen bread. I do not,
>> >>> although I do freeze the extra slices that are about to go bad and
>> >>> I will use them later for stuffing. It's fine for that. And any
>> >>> time that I buy extra chips or pretzel, they go bad before we can
>> >>> eat them. But for sure I am getting some of that whole wheat pasta
>> >>> from Costco and some extra beans, popcorn and canned stuff.
>> >>
>> >>> http://frugalliving.about.com/od/sto...Stockpile-Due-...
>> >>
>> >> I'm sorry you're in a drought area. Where I live has been inundated
>> >> with rain. But you can't stockpile eggs unless you eat a hell of a
>> >> lot
>> >> of them. Egg Beaters or whatever, sure. The eggs in the carton can be
>> >> frozen, no problem.
>> >>
>> >> I have no problem with freezing bread. I eat so little of it (nope,
>> >> I'm
>> >> not low-carbing - I simply don't eat much bread). I buy it on sale
>> >> and
>> >> freeze it. I'll occasionally have a slice of bread with an egg or two
>> >> for breakfast, maybe once a week.
>> >>
>> >> I only have gallons of water "stockpiled" because I live in a
>> >> hurricane
>> >> zone. And it's been raining like crazy here for the entire month!
>> >> (Sorry to all you drought-stricken folks.) I don't drink bottled
>> >> water.
>> >> I drink tap water. Bottled water has got to be the biggest ripoff on
>> >> the planet.
>> >>
>> >> Jill
>> >
>> > Julie is not in an area affected by the drought....
>>
>> I'm not but they say it will affect food prices for the whole country.
>
> Buy lots of beans before it's too late!@
>
> G.

I have.

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 21 Aug 2012 17:07:14 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>
>> Julie Bove wrote:
>> >
>> > merryb wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Julie is not in an area affected by the drought....
>> >
>> > I'm not but they say it will affect food prices for the whole country.
>>
>> Buy lots of beans before it's too late!@
>>
> You'll need to stockpile lots of water to cook them.

I have that too.

"Julie Bove" > wrote in message
> merryb wrote:

>> Julie is not in an area affected by the drought....
>
> I'm not but they say it will affect food prices for the whole country.

So? Many things have an impact on prices and invariably the prices go up,
but they have always gone up rathter than down. Just because there is a
drought somewhere in a huge, rich country like the US does not mean that you
need to stockpile. If you were in Ethiopia then I could understand why you
may do so, but not in the US or any western country. At least not yet.
That point may come given time.

On Tue, 21 Aug 2012 18:05:49 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
>"sf" > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Tue, 21 Aug 2012 17:07:14 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>>
>>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>> >
>>> > merryb wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > > Julie is not in an area affected by the drought....
>>> >
>>> > I'm not but they say it will affect food prices for the whole country.
>>>
>>> Buy lots of beans before it's too late!@
>>>
>> You'll need to stockpile lots of water to cook them.
>
>I have that too.

You'd be better off with canned beans... and in the larger cans they
cost less than dried... you won't need all that water and they are
already cooked. I keep a variety of beans in the 40 ounce cans.

"Brooklyn1" <Gravesend1> wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 21 Aug 2012 18:05:49 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>"sf" > wrote in message
. ..
>>> On Tue, 21 Aug 2012 17:07:14 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > merryb wrote:
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Julie is not in an area affected by the drought....
>>>> >
>>>> > I'm not but they say it will affect food prices for the whole
>>>> > country.
>>>>
>>>> Buy lots of beans before it's too late!@
>>>>
>>> You'll need to stockpile lots of water to cook them.
>>
>>I have that too.
>
> You'd be better off with canned beans... and in the larger cans they
> cost less than dried... you won't need all that water and they are
> already cooked. I keep a variety of beans in the 40 ounce cans.

I have both kinds.

"Farm1" > wrote in message
...
> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
>> merryb wrote:
>
>>> Julie is not in an area affected by the drought....
>>
>> I'm not but they say it will affect food prices for the whole country.
>
> So? Many things have an impact on prices and invariably the prices go up,
> but they have always gone up rathter than down. Just because there is a
> drought somewhere in a huge, rich country like the US does not mean that
> you need to stockpile. If you were in Ethiopia then I could understand
> why you may do so, but not in the US or any western country. At least not
> yet. That point may come given time.

Well I personally need to because my husband is retiring and AFAIK hasn't
gotten another job yet. He says he has but I will believe it when I see it.
And part of his retirement pay may not come to us for a year or so. So our
income is cut in about half but we will still need to eat.

"Julie Bove" > wrote in message
...
> "Farm1" > wrote in message
> ...
>> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
>>> merryb wrote:
>>
>>>> Julie is not in an area affected by the drought....
>>>
>>> I'm not but they say it will affect food prices for the whole country.
>>
>> So? Many things have an impact on prices and invariably the prices go
>> up, but they have always gone up rathter than down. Just because there
>> is a drought somewhere in a huge, rich country like the US does not mean
>> that you need to stockpile. If you were in Ethiopia then I could
>> understand why you may do so, but not in the US or any western country.
>> At least not yet. That point may come given time.
>
> Well I personally need to because my husband is retiring and AFAIK hasn't
> gotten another job yet. He says he has but I will believe it when I see
> it. And part of his retirement pay may not come to us for a year or so.
> So our income is cut in about half but we will still need to eat.

So really it's a case of you building a stockpile against a change of
circumstance. I think that makes far more sense than as a result of
drought.

As I mentioned before we had 10 years of drought in this country and we had
to reduce our herd numbers on both places by half, but we never stockpiled.
The basics that do stockpile well didn't rise noticeably in price whereas
those relying on good grain harvest (poultry food [and thus eggs]) did go
up. You can't really stockpile eggs effectively or flour - both have
limited lifespan and the same applies to most things that will rise in price
arising from drought conditions.