On 2012-08-30, Sky > wrote:

> Unfortunately, colchicine is no longer available like it used to be

Colchicine was no panacea. For me, it was a side-effects nightmare
that was almost worse than the problem. It's good to have around, jes
in case, as it will knock down an attack fairly quickly, but it's
certainly nothing I wanna take for too long. I used it once and had
to abandon it before the doc's prescribed treatment. Better to go
with a long range cure than this short term Hell-in-a-bottle.

nb

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On Wed, 29 Aug 2012 23:32:15 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

> Thanks! I don't know what he was given. I only know that he said he had
> something really strong to take and then something that he had to take
> daily. I highly doubt that he will go back on a routine basis. He is one
> of those people who just lets things go until there is a problem.

I think those two pills are the standard way to deal with gout. My
husband didn't take the daily medication and his doctor is fine with
it because he controls his gout with diet. The other pill is on an as
needed basis, which he takes when he feels a flare up coming on that
he doesn't think will go away otherwise. He absolutely hates taking
it though because it wipes him out for the entire day. He gets very
tired and sleeps a lot, so he avoids taking whenever possible.



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Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

notbob > wrote:

>Colchicine was no panacea. For me, it was a side-effects nightmare
>that was almost worse than the problem. It's good to have around, jes
>in case, as it will knock down an attack fairly quickly, but it's
>certainly nothing I wanna take for too long. I used it once and had
>to abandon it before the doc's prescribed treatment. Better to go
>with a long range cure than this short term Hell-in-a-bottle.

It definitely has its place. Fortunately I have a large stash
purchased before the price increase; unfortunately what I have
expired in 2011, but I figure it's what I got until the price
goes back down (I think that'snext year).

In addition to being used to treat major flares, cochicine is
used (in lower doses) when you are changing meds or changing dosages, or
when you feel a twinge of a flare starting up.

Even during a major flare, I could never take more than 7 or 8 pills
over the course of a couple days before both the gout, and my guts,
were defeated.

Steve

"l, not -l" > wrote in :

>
> On 29-Aug-2012, gloria p > wrote:
>
>> On 8/29/2012 2:49 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>> > I have to cook for a person with gout.
>>
>> Allopurinol is my friend.
>
> Amen to that; I haven't had a gout episode since starting on
> allopurinol 20 years ago.

Likewise.


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Sky > wrote:

>Unfortunately, colchicine is no longer available like it used to be

>Leave it to the Rx companies to put colchicine by the wayside so their
>'brand new' medication (Colcrys) to treat gout is pushed at grossly and
>considerably higher prices.

Yep. A real ripoff of the consumer. It's analogous to slapping
a patent on aspirin or codeine.

The IP terrorists are out of control.


Steve

Yes wrote:
> Julie Bove wrote:
>
>> I have to cook for a person with gout. And his favorite foods are
>> the worst ones for it.
> --snipped--
>
> Not sure. But one keyword to search for is "purines", not Purina Dog
> Chow :-)
>
> Most seafood is high in purine content. Most sauces also have high
> purine content.
>
> using Google, the following search
> http://www.google.com/webhp?complete...iw=755&bih=435
>
> gave over 195,000 hits.
>
> The two at the top of the returns from my search were
>
> purine table
> http://www.acumedico.com/purine.htm
>
> Gout Diet - Foods to Avoid
> http://arthritis.about.com/cs/gout/a/foodstoavoid.htm

Thanks!

Julie Bove wrote:
>
> I have bought very little meat and hidden most of it. I
> am only putting a little out at a time. The refrigerator is mostly filled
> with fruits and veggies now. I also put a lot of bottled water in there.
> The gout is getting some better.

LOL! You hid the meat? Unless he's a total moron, he'll see it in your
freezer or frig. Or maybe you hid it in a closet somewhere? heheheh

G.

"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> I have bought very little meat and hidden most of it. I
>> am only putting a little out at a time. The refrigerator is mostly
>> filled
>> with fruits and veggies now. I also put a lot of bottled water in there.
>> The gout is getting some better.
>
> LOL! You hid the meat? Unless he's a total moron, he'll see it in your
> freezer or frig. Or maybe you hid it in a closet somewhere? heheheh

No. He won't find it. It's in with my massive supply of insulin pens. He
wouldn't look in there. Not that there is a lot of meat. There isn't. I
only hid the beef which he shouldn't have. I have left out the turkey and
the chicken.

Julie Bove > wrote:

>Thanks! Somebody last night who lives in Malaysia and eats a lot of tofu
>warned me that it was in fact very bad for gout.

It looks like it's pretty high purine. It's possible that something about
manufacturing it concentrates the purines, compared to unprocessed soybeans.

The data suggests that diary, eggs, whole wheat and nuts are the
only truly low-purine sources of protein. (I do not have any data
on the other high-protein grains -- such as qunioa or wild rice.)

From there it gets progressively worse as you consumer beans,
meat/poultry, and fish.

> I have bought very little meat and hidden most of it. I
> am only putting a little out at a time. The refrigerator is mostly
> filled with fruits and veggies now. I also put a lot of bottled water
> in there. The gout is getting some better.

Good to hear. Don't get discouraged. An attack can take weeks to
go away. But afterwards, if you follow the treatement you can
postpone the next attack for many years, or possibly indefinitely.


Steve

"Steve Pope" > wrote in message
...
> Julie Bove > wrote:
>
>>Thanks! Somebody last night who lives in Malaysia and eats a lot of tofu
>>warned me that it was in fact very bad for gout.
>
> It looks like it's pretty high purine. It's possible that something about
> manufacturing it concentrates the purines, compared to unprocessed
> soybeans.
>
> The data suggests that diary, eggs, whole wheat and nuts are the
> only truly low-purine sources of protein. (I do not have any data
> on the other high-protein grains -- such as qunioa or wild rice.)
>
> From there it gets progressively worse as you consumer beans,
> meat/poultry, and fish.
>
>> I have bought very little meat and hidden most of it. I
>> am only putting a little out at a time. The refrigerator is mostly
>> filled with fruits and veggies now. I also put a lot of bottled water
>> in there. The gout is getting some better.
>
> Good to hear. Don't get discouraged. An attack can take weeks to
> go away. But afterwards, if you follow the treatement you can
> postpone the next attack for many years, or possibly indefinitely.

Thanks!