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Does it need to be kept frozen? Any reason it can't be stored in the refigerator
instead of the freezer? I Googled the question and can't find an answer. Thanks. |
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On Aug 30, 2:49*pm, wrote:
> Does it need to be kept frozen? Any reason it can't be stored in the refigerator > instead of the freezer? I Googled the question and can't find an answer. Thanks. I asked on ask.com and got three replies and all three said yes. One mentioned that the container would get soggy and then leak. |
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![]() > wrote in message ... > Does it need to be kept frozen? Any reason it can't be stored in the > refigerator > instead of the freezer? I Googled the question and can't find an answer. > Thanks. Yes it needs to be frozen for long term storage. If you are going to use it in a day or two then you could put it in the fridge. |
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Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> I've kept it in the fridge or up to a week. Could probably stay > longer and be OK. The concentrate is frozen for long shelf life. It > is processed in season and can be kept for a long time until the > consumer needs it. > > As for being in a cardboard container, I've never had one leak. Aren't those containers lined with foil and plastic film in the inside like tetrapak? It would be crazy to put liquids in cardboard containers without some inner lining. |
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![]() "ViLco" > wrote in message ... > Ed Pawlowski wrote: > >> I've kept it in the fridge or up to a week. Could probably stay >> longer and be OK. The concentrate is frozen for long shelf life. It >> is processed in season and can be kept for a long time until the >> consumer needs it. >> >> As for being in a cardboard container, I've never had one leak. > > Aren't those containers lined with foil and plastic film in the inside > like tetrapak? It would be crazy to put liquids in cardboard containers > without some inner lining. Yes. |
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Julie Bove wrote:
>>> As for being in a cardboard container, I've never had one leak. >> Aren't those containers lined with foil and plastic film in the >> inside like tetrapak? It would be crazy to put liquids in cardboard >> containers without some inner lining. > Yes. So there's no reason to worry about them getting soggy |
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![]() "ViLco" > wrote in message ... > Julie Bove wrote: > >>>> As for being in a cardboard container, I've never had one leak. > >>> Aren't those containers lined with foil and plastic film in the >>> inside like tetrapak? It would be crazy to put liquids in cardboard >>> containers without some inner lining. > >> Yes. > > So there's no reason to worry about them getting soggy Oh they will get soggy. I don't know if they will leak though. |
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On 8/31/2012 4:33 AM, ViLco wrote:
> Julie Bove wrote: > >>>> As for being in a cardboard container, I've never had one leak. > >>> Aren't those containers lined with foil and plastic film in the >>> inside like tetrapak? It would be crazy to put liquids in cardboard >>> containers without some inner lining. > >> Yes. > > So there's no reason to worry about them getting soggy > > Considering I haven't purchased frozen (any) juice concentrate in at least 20 years, I never thought about there being an additional lining. Lining or not, since I don't dole out spoonfuls of juice at a time I'd keep it frozen until ready to mix with water. But then, I don't cook with lemonade ![]() Jill |
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On Fri, 31 Aug 2012 09:49:12 +0200, "ViLco" > wrote:
>Ed Pawlowski wrote: > >> I've kept it in the fridge or up to a week. Could probably stay >> longer and be OK. The concentrate is frozen for long shelf life. It >> is processed in season and can be kept for a long time until the >> consumer needs it. >> >> As for being in a cardboard container, I've never had one leak. > >Aren't those containers lined with foil and plastic film in the inside like >tetrapak? It would be crazy to put liquids in cardboard containers without >some inner lining. This is true, but still when refilled and refrozen a couple three times they tend to leak where crimped at the metal bottom. Even if someone needed some frozen concentrate to use as flavoring in a recipe, ie. lemon cake, they still would mix the remainder with water to use as a beverage... it's not like those itty bitty cans make up gallons. |
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Sqwertz wrote:
>> Aren't those containers lined with foil and plastic film in the >> inside like tetrapak? It would be crazy to put liquids in cardboard >> containers without some inner lining. > They have a thin, waxy-plastic coating on the inside, but that's > usually it. It's not meant to be a sterile packaging like TetraPak > since it's kept frozen. Horrible, and only to save the license money to Tetrapak... here those containers would be out of the market in a month |
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Sqwertz wrote:
>> Horrible, and only to save the license money to Tetrapak... here >> those containers would be out of the market in a month > They work for what they do. Been that way since the 40's when FCOJ > was invented. TetraPaks have a bad reputation here for filling up the > landfills. Tetrapak *is* recyclable, in fact it *is* recycled in most of Europe including Italy, so if it ends filling up the landfills the issue is in the recycling system > That doesn't stop some manufacturers from putting kids > drinks in them where the packaging costs more than the contents. AKA > Juice Boxes. Here lots of things are in tetrapak, from beans (tetrapak boxed instead of canned) to OJ to broth to almost everything liquid. |
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On Thu, 30 Aug 2012 21:55:52 -0500, Sqwertz >
wrote: >On Thu, 30 Aug 2012 22:37:42 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote: > >> As for being in a cardboard container, I've never had one leak. > >Either have I. It get soft, but doesn't leak. I open partially >thawed juice concentrates and just make a glass at a time, leaving the >rest in the fridge. Then use it over the next couple days. That's typical illogical squirtz BS. Normal brained folks would mix the entire itty bitty can for a beverage and store that the fridge, NOT mix up one glass at a time... odds are sqwertz has never used frozen juice. |
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On 31/08/2012 5:49 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> On Thu, 30 Aug 2012 21:55:52 -0500, Sqwertz > > wrote: > >> On Thu, 30 Aug 2012 22:37:42 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote: >> >>> As for being in a cardboard container, I've never had one leak. >> >> Either have I. It get soft, but doesn't leak. I open partially >> thawed juice concentrates and just make a glass at a time, leaving the >> rest in the fridge. Then use it over the next couple days. > > That's typical illogical squirtz BS. Normal brained folks would mix > the entire itty bitty can for a beverage and store that the fridge, > NOT mix up one glass at a time... odds are sqwertz has never used > frozen juice. > I am relatively normal. We have an open can of orange juice concentrate in the freezer. Neither my wife nor I drink orange juice, but we sometimes need some for a recipe, usually the one for orange oven fried chicken. That calls for some concentrate to be mixed with eggs for dipping before the crumbs. |
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On Fri, 31 Aug 2012 07:10:37 -0500, Melba's Jammin'
> wrote: >In article >, > wrote: > >> Does it need to be kept frozen? Any reason it can't be stored in the >> refigerator >> instead of the freezer? I Googled the question and can't find an answer. >> Thanks. > >My rule is to store things in the same manner in which they are sold. >I.e., produce from the refrigerated section, refrigerated; produce sold >at room temp, at room temp; frozen food, frozen. The high amount of >sugar in the lemonade concentrate means it doesn't usually freeze very >solid -- and if it does, it takes not much time for it to thaw for >mixing. My fi'ty cents. Frozen juices are packaged in itty bitty cans because folks mix the entire amount at once, no one uses frozen concentrate to make one serving at a time... even if I needed some concentrate for a recipe I still would mix the remainder with water, and vodka... (preservative!) Btw, tinned foods (once opened) should not be stored in their tin, transfer to glass or plastic. I once saved up a bunch of frozen juice concentrate cardboard cans for making ice pops, most can only be used once as during freezing the crimp at the metal bottom opens. |
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