Our grandchildren love them, so I often fix them when we invite them
over for breakfast, and they just gobble them up. Was wondering if
anyone else ever makes them? This recipe didn't call for vanilla, but I
always add some....probably about 1 tsp., as just seems to enhance the
flavor.

Funnel Cakes

1-2/3 cups all-purpose flour
1/4 tsp. salt
3/4 tsp. baking soda
1/2 tsp. cream of tartar
2 tbsp. granulated sugar
1 egg
1 cup milk
Powdered sugar
Cooking oil

In mixing bowl, beat together egg, milk and vanilla (if using). Beat in
remaining ingredients, except powdered sugar and oil.

Heat about 1 inch of cooking oil in a frying pan to about 375º.

Pour 1/2 cup batter through small funnel into hot oil using a circular
motion to form a spiral. Fry until lightly brown; turn over and brown
the other side; cook to golden brown. Remove to drain on paper towels.
Sprinkle each with powdered sugar. Serve while warm. It says it makes
between 5 to 10 cakes, but of course, that will depend on the size, but
I make mine smaller and get quite a few.

Judy

>
On Sep 1, 11:40*pm, (Judy Haffner) wrote:
>
> Our grandchildren love them, so I often fix them when we invite them
> over for breakfast, and they just gobble them up. Was wondering if
> anyone else ever makes them?
>
> Judy
>
>
I'm placing my order now. Yummmmmmmm.

"Judy Haffner" > wrote in message
...

Our grandchildren love them, so I often fix them when we invite them
over for breakfast, and they just gobble them up. Was wondering if
anyone else ever makes them? This recipe didn't call for vanilla, but I
always add some....probably about 1 tsp., as just seems to enhance the
flavor.

Funnel Cakes

1-2/3 cups all-purpose flour
1/4 tsp. salt
3/4 tsp. baking soda
1/2 tsp. cream of tartar
2 tbsp. granulated sugar
1 egg
1 cup milk
Powdered sugar
Cooking oil

In mixing bowl, beat together egg, milk and vanilla (if using). Beat in
remaining ingredients, except powdered sugar and oil.

Heat about 1 inch of cooking oil in a frying pan to about 375º.

Pour 1/2 cup batter through small funnel into hot oil using a circular
motion to form a spiral. Fry until lightly brown; turn over and brown
the other side; cook to golden brown. Remove to drain on paper towels.
Sprinkle each with powdered sugar. Serve while warm. It says it makes
between 5 to 10 cakes, but of course, that will depend on the size, but
I make mine smaller and get quite a few.

Judy


=========

I used to make them years ago, but haven't for a very long time now.

Cheri

"Judy Haffner" > wrote in message
...

Our grandchildren love them, so I often fix them when we invite them
over for breakfast, and they just gobble them up. Was wondering if
anyone else ever makes them? This recipe didn't call for vanilla, but I
always add some....probably about 1 tsp., as just seems to enhance the
flavor.

Funnel Cakes

1-2/3 cups all-purpose flour
1/4 tsp. salt
3/4 tsp. baking soda
1/2 tsp. cream of tartar
2 tbsp. granulated sugar
1 egg
1 cup milk
Powdered sugar
Cooking oil

In mixing bowl, beat together egg, milk and vanilla (if using). Beat in
remaining ingredients, except powdered sugar and oil.

Heat about 1 inch of cooking oil in a frying pan to about 375º.

Pour 1/2 cup batter through small funnel into hot oil using a circular
motion to form a spiral. Fry until lightly brown; turn over and brown
the other side; cook to golden brown. Remove to drain on paper towels.
Sprinkle each with powdered sugar. Serve while warm. It says it makes
between 5 to 10 cakes, but of course, that will depend on the size, but
I make mine smaller and get quite a few.
_________________________________
They do sound very, very yummy, and very, very tempting, but I strongly
suspect they would not be good for me and that I should resist making them
:-(((

"Farm1" > wrote in message
...
> "Judy Haffner" > wrote in message
> ...
>
> Our grandchildren love them, so I often fix them when we invite them
> over for breakfast, and they just gobble them up. Was wondering if
> anyone else ever makes them? This recipe didn't call for vanilla, but I
> always add some....probably about 1 tsp., as just seems to enhance the
> flavor.
>
> Funnel Cakes
>
> 1-2/3 cups all-purpose flour
> 1/4 tsp. salt
> 3/4 tsp. baking soda
> 1/2 tsp. cream of tartar
> 2 tbsp. granulated sugar
> 1 egg
> 1 cup milk
> Powdered sugar
> Cooking oil
>
> In mixing bowl, beat together egg, milk and vanilla (if using). Beat in
> remaining ingredients, except powdered sugar and oil.
>
> Heat about 1 inch of cooking oil in a frying pan to about 375º.
>
> Pour 1/2 cup batter through small funnel into hot oil using a circular
> motion to form a spiral. Fry until lightly brown; turn over and brown
> the other side; cook to golden brown. Remove to drain on paper towels.
> Sprinkle each with powdered sugar. Serve while warm. It says it makes
> between 5 to 10 cakes, but of course, that will depend on the size, but
> I make mine smaller and get quite a few.
> _________________________________
> They do sound very, very yummy, and very, very tempting, but I strongly
> suspect they would not be good for me and that I should resist making them
> :-(((

I had one once. I couldn't understand the appeal. I even asked my SIL if
that was what it was supposed to taste like? She said that it was. It was
*very* greasy and loaded with powdered sugar. Not necessarily a good thing
when you are standing outside in the wind.

Julie Bove wrote:

>I had one once. I couldn't understand the
> appeal. I even asked my SIL if that was
> what it was supposed to taste like? She
> said that it was. It was *very* greasy
> and loaded with powdered sugar. Not
> necessarily a good thing when you are
> standing outside in the wind.

Something was wrong with the batter, or the way they were prepared then,
as the ones I make aren't greasy at all, but very light and tender, and
not overly sweet, which is appealing to. We all think they are
addicting...and very delicious!

Judy

"Judy Haffner" > wrote in message
...
>
> Julie Bove wrote:
>
>>I had one once. I couldn't understand the
>> appeal. I even asked my SIL if that was
>> what it was supposed to taste like? She
>> said that it was. It was *very* greasy
>> and loaded with powdered sugar. Not
>> necessarily a good thing when you are
>> standing outside in the wind.
>
> Something was wrong with the batter, or the way they were prepared then,
> as the ones I make aren't greasy at all, but very light and tender, and
> not overly sweet, which is appealing to. We all think they are
> addicting...and very delicious!

This was at a fair in PA. They were deep fried. And they literally dumped
powdered sugar on them.

Julie Bove wrote:

>This was at a fair in PA. They were deep
> fried. And they literally dumped
> powdered sugar on them.

I know they are popular at fairs, or use to be, as I haven't been to one
in a very long time. I would say the oil wasn't at the correct
temperature when they put them into it (not hot enough) or else they may
have pierced the cake when turning them over. I use peanut oil and heat
it to 375º before swirling the batter through the funnel into it. It
only takes a few seconds to cook. I use a flour sifter to lightly
sprinkle with the powdered sugar, so isn't caked onto them.

Judy

On Sat, 1 Sep 2012 20:37:14 -0800, (Judy Haffner)
wrote:

>
>Our grandchildren love them, so I often fix them when we invite them
>over for breakfast, and they just gobble them up. Was wondering if
>anyone else ever makes them? This recipe didn't call for vanilla, but I
>always add some....probably about 1 tsp., as just seems to enhance the
>flavor.
....

No, but I've made a LOT of donuts. Basically a very similar thing.
Deep fried batter/dough.

John Kuthe...

John Kuthe wrote:
>
> On Sat, 1 Sep 2012 20:37:14 -0800, (Judy Haffner)
> wrote:
>
> >
> >Our grandchildren love them, so I often fix them when we invite them
> >over for breakfast, and they just gobble them up. Was wondering if
> >anyone else ever makes them? This recipe didn't call for vanilla, but I
> >always add some....probably about 1 tsp., as just seems to enhance the
> >flavor.
> ...
>
> No, but I've made a LOT of donuts. Basically a very similar thing.
> Deep fried batter/dough.
>
> John Kuthe...

I agree. Funnel cakes are just fancy looking donuts.

G.

Judy Haffner wrote:

> Funnel Cakes

Sounds like a deep-fried waffle.

Judy Haffner wrote:

> > It was *very* greasy

> Something was wrong with the batter, or the way they were prepared then,
> as the ones I make aren't greasy at all, but very light and tender, and
> not overly sweet, which is appealing to.

If a deep-fried food is greasy, it's because the oil wasn't hot
enough.

"Julie Bove" wrote:
>
>I had one once. I couldn't understand the appeal. I even asked my SIL if
>that was what it was supposed to taste like? She said that it was. It was
>*very* greasy and loaded with powdered sugar. Not necessarily a good thing
>when you are standing outside in the wind.

Don't they hawk those things at carnivals/country fairs and the like?
I tried one many years ago at a Polock festival in Riverhead,NY...
they have no flavor, just greasy deep fried dough smothered in
powdered sugar, could only eat a few nibbles. After watching them
being made I can't imagine anyone making them at home... they're made
in a huge vat of hot oil. The only redeeming quality is watching them
being made, like watching cotton candy being made, another thing not
worth actually eating.

Talking about true junk food my neighbor's son started a new job about
three months ago, he has a distributership delivering Tasty Kake to
the area's stupidmarkets and smaller stores, has about 50 stops a
week. He was telling me how each day he pulls the products as they
approach their sell-by date and either has to give them away or dump
them in the trash. He told me that no one wants them, not even the
food banks so he dumps them. I thought I could feed them to the
critters and asked him to bring me some. Yesterday he arrived with a
huge carton, about fifty pounds worth, all assorted. I tried a couple
but they are awful, mainly fat and sugar. This morning I tossed out a
half dozen of these tiny chocolate creme filled cupcakes and the deer
ate them. So I will continue feeding them to the critters, only
problem is having to remove the cellophane wrapper from each piece. I
wouildn't buy them, they're very expensive for what I think is truly
junk food, has no redeeming value whatsoever, purely empty calories.
He told me how the bars are big sellers and the KandyKakes are good
frozen... I tried one frozen but still I wouldn't eat the rest. I
tried a yogurt cinnamon apple bar, has a medicinal after taste. And
many years ago I used to like Devil Dogs, Yankee Doodles, and
Snowballs, but these TastyKake things don't even come close.
http://www.tastykake.com/

On Sat, 1 Sep 2012 23:09:42 -0800, (Judy Haffner)
wrote:

>
>Julie Bove wrote:
>
>>I had one once. I couldn't understand the
>> appeal. I even asked my SIL if that was
>> what it was supposed to taste like? She
>> said that it was. It was *very* greasy
>> and loaded with powdered sugar. Not
>> necessarily a good thing when you are
>> standing outside in the wind.
>
>Something was wrong with the batter, or the way they were prepared then,
>as the ones I make aren't greasy at all, but very light and tender, and
>not overly sweet, which is appealing to. We all think they are
>addicting...and very delicious!
>
>Judy TIAD

On Sun, 02 Sep 2012 07:43:28 -0400, Gary > wrote:

>John Kuthe wrote:
>>
>> On Sat, 1 Sep 2012 20:37:14 -0800, (Judy Haffner)
>> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >Our grandchildren love them, so I often fix them when we invite them
>> >over for breakfast, and they just gobble them up. Was wondering if
>> >anyone else ever makes them? This recipe didn't call for vanilla, but I
>> >always add some....probably about 1 tsp., as just seems to enhance the
>> >flavor.
>> ...
>>
>> No, but I've made a LOT of donuts. Basically a very similar thing.
>> Deep fried batter/dough.
>>
>> John Kuthe...
>
>I agree. Funnel cakes are just fancy looking donuts.

What's so fancy... they look like someone took a dump in the deep
fryer... all it needs is a stick and could be sold for 5¢ a lick!
LOL-LOL

Brooklyn1 wrote:
>
> On Sun, 02 Sep 2012 07:43:28 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>
> >John Kuthe wrote:
> >>
> >> On Sat, 1 Sep 2012 20:37:14 -0800, (Judy Haffner)
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >Our grandchildren love them, so I often fix them when we invite them
> >> >over for breakfast, and they just gobble them up. Was wondering if
> >> >anyone else ever makes them? This recipe didn't call for vanilla, but I
> >> >always add some....probably about 1 tsp., as just seems to enhance the
> >> >flavor.
> >> ...
> >>
> >> No, but I've made a LOT of donuts. Basically a very similar thing.
> >> Deep fried batter/dough.
> >>
> >> John Kuthe...
> >
> >I agree. Funnel cakes are just fancy looking donuts.
>
> What's so fancy... they look like someone took a dump in the deep
> fryer... all it needs is a stick and could be sold for 5¢ a lick!
> LOL-LOL

LOL! Let's call them bowlwinder donuts then.

Gary wrote:

>I agree. Funnel cakes are just fancy
> looking donuts.

Not at all actually, as they have a totally different texture.....are
more flat and the dough is very light. I make doughnuts often, and they
really have no similarity that I can see, or taste.

Judy

Judy Haffner wrote:
>
> Gary wrote:
>
> >I agree. Funnel cakes are just fancy
> > looking donuts.
>
> Not at all actually, as they have a totally different texture.....are
> more flat and the dough is very light. I make doughnuts often, and they
> really have no similarity that I can see, or taste.
>
> Judy

Just saying that because I bought one at a festival here once. Just a fancy
squiggly donut as far as I was concerned. :-O Not arguing with you, just
my opinion of it.

On 02/09/2012 1:14 PM, Gary wrote:
> Judy Haffner wrote:
>>
>> Gary wrote:
>>
>>> I agree. Funnel cakes are just fancy
>>> looking donuts.
>>
>> Not at all actually, as they have a totally different texture.....are
>> more flat and the dough is very light. I make doughnuts often, and they
>> really have no similarity that I can see, or taste.
>>
>> Judy
>
> Just saying that because I bought one at a festival here once. Just a fancy
> squiggly donut as far as I was concerned. :-O Not arguing with you, just
> my opinion of it.
>


I have never had one, but have seen them at fairs. They look like the
sort batter you would use for fish or tempura, light and airy... deep
fried nothing. Donut batter has more substance to it.

On Sun, 2 Sep 2012 08:59:06 -0800, (Judy Haffner)
wrote:

>
>Gary wrote:
>
>>I agree. Funnel cakes are just fancy
>> looking donuts.
>
>Not at all actually, as they have a totally different texture.....are
>more flat and the dough is very light. I make doughnuts often, and they
>really have no similarity that I can see, or taste.
>
>Judy

Just a donut variation. Deep fried batter/dough, like I said.

And Judy, I;'ll bet I've made more donuts than you! Six nights a week
for eight years solid, plus some!

John Kuthe...

"John Kuthe" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 1 Sep 2012 20:37:14 -0800, (Judy Haffner)
> wrote:
>
>>
>>Our grandchildren love them, so I often fix them when we invite them
>>over for breakfast, and they just gobble them up. Was wondering if
>>anyone else ever makes them? This recipe didn't call for vanilla, but I
>>always add some....probably about 1 tsp., as just seems to enhance the
>>flavor.
> ...
>
> No, but I've made a LOT of donuts. Basically a very similar thing.
> Deep fried batter/dough.

The best doughnuts I've ever eaten were 'pineapple' doughnuts. It was like
they had been cooked in a pineapple syrup but I have no idea how they were
cooked. Yummy though and one of those cjhildhood memories that i'm sure
will remain forever a mystery and unrepeatable.

On Mon, 3 Sep 2012 11:16:52 +1000, "Farm1" >
wrote:
....
>The best doughnuts I've ever eaten were 'pineapple' doughnuts. It was like
>they had been cooked in a pineapple syrup but I have no idea how they were
>cooked. Yummy though and one of those cjhildhood memories that i'm sure
>will remain forever a mystery and unrepeatable.
>

IMHO donuts are akways deep fried. Baked things are baked, but
anything baked is a roll to me, not a donut. Like danish rolls, I
rolled up many! Proofed 'em and topped 'em and baked 'em too!

John Kuthe...

"Brooklyn1" <Gravesend1> wrote in message
> Talking about true junk food my neighbor's son started a new job about
> three months ago, he has a distributership delivering Tasty Kake to
> the area's stupidmarkets and smaller stores, has about 50 stops a
> week. He was telling me how each day he pulls the products as they
> approach their sell-by date and either has to give them away or dump
> them in the trash. He told me that no one wants them, not even the
> food banks so he dumps them. I thought I could feed them to the
> critters and asked him to bring me some. Yesterday he arrived with a
> huge carton, about fifty pounds worth, all assorted. I tried a couple
> but they are awful, mainly fat and sugar. This morning I tossed out a
> half dozen of these tiny chocolate creme filled cupcakes and the deer
> ate them.

Please don't feed that stuff to wildlife Sheldon. If you won't eat them
please don't inflict them on wildlife. I'm sure you mean to do that
wildlife a good turn by makign thier life a bit easier but it'll be
detrimental int he long run. They will come to rely on it and wont' forage
or bbe as effective int heir foraging if their is easy food about. Although
I have no problems with humans eating crap if they are silly enough to make
such choices, I believe it's cruelty to do so to animals.

On Sep 2, 12:41*pm, Sqwertz > wrote:
>
> On Sun, 2 Sep 2012 12:32:42 -0500, Sqwertz wrote:
>
> > On Sat, 1 Sep 2012 22:12:17 -0700 (PDT),
> > wrote:
>
> >> I'm placing my order now. *Yummmmmmmm.
>
> > Your order is ready - fresh ot of the fryer. *Vanilla cinnamon funnel
> > cake with a puddle of roasted pecan maple syrup underneath the maple
> > syrup.
>
> >http://www.flickr.com/photos/sqwertz...ream/lightbox/
>
> Oops. *That was a smoked oyster and cream cheese omelette (had to have
> some sort of meat with that funnel cake). *Try the next picture in the
> series...
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/sqwertz...ream/lightbox/
>
> Now THAT'S a funnel cake - promise! *:-)
>
> -sw
>
>
You did good! I was looking at the other pictures and never did see
my funnel cake float by.

"John Kuthe" > wrote in message
news
> On Mon, 3 Sep 2012 11:16:52 +1000, "Farm1" >
> wrote:
> ...
>>The best doughnuts I've ever eaten were 'pineapple' doughnuts. It was
>>like
>>they had been cooked in a pineapple syrup but I have no idea how they were
>>cooked. Yummy though and one of those cjhildhood memories that i'm sure
>>will remain forever a mystery and unrepeatable.
>>
>
> IMHO donuts are akways deep fried. Baked things are baked, but
> anything baked is a roll to me, not a donut. Like danish rolls, I
> rolled up many! Proofed 'em and topped 'em and baked 'em too!

But as I mentioned, they seemed to be cooked in a pinapple syrup so that
would make them boiled??? But they did have that squishy doughnut texture.
They certainly weren't baked.

On 02/09/2012 12:34 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:

> Talking about true junk food my neighbor's son started a new job about
> three months ago, he has a distributership delivering Tasty Kake to
> the area's stupidmarkets and smaller stores, has about 50 stops a
> week. He was telling me how each day he pulls the products as they
> approach their sell-by date and either has to give them away or dump
> them in the trash. He told me that no one wants them, not even the
> food banks so he dumps them. I thought I could feed them to the
> critters and asked him to bring me some. Yesterday he arrived with a
> huge carton, about fifty pounds worth, all assorted. I tried a couple
> but they are awful, mainly fat and sugar.


He should try to find a pig farmer. Pigs will eat just about anything
and a lot of unused food products go into their troughs.

Judy Haffner wrote:

> Our grandchildren love them, so I often fix them when we invite them
> over for breakfast, and they just gobble them up. Was wondering if
> anyone else ever makes them? This recipe didn't call for vanilla,
> but I always add some....probably about 1 tsp., as just seems to
> enhance the flavor.

That reminds me of Jalebi, I had them in Manali valley many tears ago. See
those holes here and there? When the cooker removes them from the oil
they're literwlly full of oil who then drips off. IMHO the most greasy and
inedible "food" I ever had
http://cateskitchen.files.wordpress..../04/jalebi.jpg

Farm1 wrote:
>
> "John Kuthe" > wrote in message
> news
> > On Mon, 3 Sep 2012 11:16:52 +1000, "Farm1" >
> > wrote:
> > ...
> >>The best doughnuts I've ever eaten were 'pineapple' doughnuts. It was
> >>like
> >>they had been cooked in a pineapple syrup but I have no idea how they were
> >>cooked. Yummy though and one of those cjhildhood memories that i'm sure
> >>will remain forever a mystery and unrepeatable.
> >>
> >
> > IMHO donuts are akways deep fried. Baked things are baked, but
> > anything baked is a roll to me, not a donut. Like danish rolls, I
> > rolled up many! Proofed 'em and topped 'em and baked 'em too!
>
> But as I mentioned, they seemed to be cooked in a pinapple syrup so that
> would make them boiled??? But they did have that squishy doughnut texture.
> They certainly weren't baked.

I would guess they were maybe deep fried, then have a pinapple syrup poured
over them. Just guessing.

G.

Dave Smith wrote:
>
> On 02/09/2012 12:34 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>
> > Talking about true junk food my neighbor's son started a new job about
> > three months ago, he has a distributership delivering Tasty Kake to
> > the area's stupidmarkets and smaller stores, has about 50 stops a
> > week. He was telling me how each day he pulls the products as they
> > approach their sell-by date and either has to give them away or dump
> > them in the trash. He told me that no one wants them, not even the
> > food banks so he dumps them. I thought I could feed them to the
> > critters and asked him to bring me some. Yesterday he arrived with a
> > huge carton, about fifty pounds worth, all assorted. I tried a couple
> > but they are awful, mainly fat and sugar.
>
> He should try to find a pig farmer. Pigs will eat just about anything
> and a lot of unused food products go into their troughs.

That's very true. I worked at a Krispy Creme donut store one night
(painting there). and they told us how all the imperfect donuts went into
the trash. Each morning a pig farmer picked up the bags and fed them to his
hogs.

G.

On Sun, 02 Sep 2012 12:34:17 -0400, Brooklyn1 <Gravesend1> wrote:
snip
>Talking about true junk food my neighbor's son started a new job about
>three months ago, he has a distributership delivering Tasty Kake to
>the area's stupidmarkets and smaller stores, has about 50 stops a
>week. He was telling me how each day he pulls the products as they
>approach their sell-by date and either has to give them away or dump
>them in the trash. He told me that no one wants them, not even the
>food banks so he dumps them. I thought I could feed them to the
>critters and asked him to bring me some. Yesterday he arrived with a
>huge carton, about fifty pounds worth, all assorted. I tried a couple
>but they are awful, mainly fat and sugar. This morning I tossed out a
>half dozen of these tiny chocolate creme filled cupcakes and the deer
>ate them. So I will continue feeding them to the critters, only
>problem is having to remove the cellophane wrapper from each piece. I
>wouildn't buy them, they're very expensive for what I think is truly
>junk food, has no redeeming value whatsoever, purely empty calories.
>He told me how the bars are big sellers and the KandyKakes are good
>frozen... I tried one frozen but still I wouldn't eat the rest. I
>tried a yogurt cinnamon apple bar, has a medicinal after taste. And
>many years ago I used to like Devil Dogs, Yankee Doodles, and
>Snowballs, but these TastyKake things don't even come close.
>http://www.tastykake.com/

I worry about the critters and all those empty calories. The same
thing happens here. We have a park located on the water and it is a
natural draw for huge flocks of geese and ducks. For as long as I can
remember people have taken their children down to the park to feed
that soft, white, cheap bread to the birds. I just hope the critters
are supplementing their diet with some good stuff. When we feed ducks
at the creek alongside our house, we feed chicken scratch. That's
only because the numbers permit it. A flock of 40 or so can clean out
a 50 pound sack of scratch in a hurry.
Janet US

On Mon, 3 Sep 2012 14:03:54 -0500, Sqwertz >
wrote:

>> On Sun, 02 Sep 2012 12:34:17 -0400, Brooklyn1 <Gravesend1> wrote:
>> snip
>>>Talking about true junk food my neighbor's son started a new job about
>>>three months ago, he has a distributership delivering Tasty Kake to
>>>the area's stupidmarkets and smaller stores, has about 50 stops a
>>>week. He was telling me how each day he pulls the products as they
>>>approach their sell-by date and either has to give them away or dump
>>>them in the trash. He told me that no one wants them, not even the
>>>food banks so he dumps them.
>
>He's lying. All the food banks will take them unless they simply have
>too much food or they have visible mold. Those things will last
>probably 6-12+ months after their expiration date. And I've never
>heard of a food bank that is overstocked.
snip
>-sw

I don't know. . .policies differ so much from area to area. A lot of
the food banks (maybe all for all I know) are prohibited from
accepting anything with a past expiration date on it.
Janet US

On Mon, 03 Sep 2012 12:36:26 -0600, Janet Bostwick
> wrote:

>On Sun, 02 Sep 2012 12:34:17 -0400, Brooklyn1 <Gravesend1> wrote:
>snip
>>Talking about true junk food my neighbor's son started a new job about
>>three months ago, he has a distributership delivering Tasty Kake to
>>the area's stupidmarkets and smaller stores, has about 50 stops a
>>week. He was telling me how each day he pulls the products as they
>>approach their sell-by date and either has to give them away or dump
>>them in the trash. He told me that no one wants them, not even the
>>food banks so he dumps them. I thought I could feed them to the
>>critters and asked him to bring me some. Yesterday he arrived with a
>>huge carton, about fifty pounds worth, all assorted. I tried a couple
>>but they are awful, mainly fat and sugar. This morning I tossed out a
>>half dozen of these tiny chocolate creme filled cupcakes and the deer
>>ate them. So I will continue feeding them to the critters, only
>>problem is having to remove the cellophane wrapper from each piece. I
>>wouildn't buy them, they're very expensive for what I think is truly
>>junk food, has no redeeming value whatsoever, purely empty calories.
>>He told me how the bars are big sellers and the KandyKakes are good
>>frozen... I tried one frozen but still I wouldn't eat the rest. I
>>tried a yogurt cinnamon apple bar, has a medicinal after taste. And
>>many years ago I used to like Devil Dogs, Yankee Doodles, and
>>Snowballs, but these TastyKake things don't even come close.
>>http://www.tastykake.com/
>
>I worry about the critters and all those empty calories. The same
>thing happens here. We have a park located on the water and it is a
>natural draw for huge flocks of geese and ducks. For as long as I can
>remember people have taken their children down to the park to feed
>that soft, white, cheap bread to the birds. I just hope the critters
>are supplementing their diet with some good stuff. When we feed ducks
>at the creek alongside our house, we feed chicken scratch. That's
>only because the numbers permit it. A flock of 40 or so can clean out
>a 50 pound sack of scratch in a hurry.
>Janet US

I don't know how many times I need it explain that the occasional six
ounces of cupcakes (that's what six weigh) is NOT *feeding* a fully
grown deer... are yoose trying to convince me that you've never eaten
a hunk of cake, you never fed your kid a Ring Ding, c'mon, folks, pull
the pointy sticks from yoose rectums. I buy bird seed and cracked corn
in 50# sacks too but the critters also get any other scraps I have
rather than putting it into the trash.
My new bird feeder:
http://i47.tinypic.com/b7ewzq.jpg

I likely won't take anymore of those TastyKakes, I won't eat them,
they taste awful, opening all those packets is too time consuming, and
I don't need that huge carton in my kitchen. I now know why he can't
give them away, I can't imagine anyone buying this product a second
time.

On Mon, 3 Sep 2012 14:03:54 -0500, Sqwertz >
wrote:

>> On Sun, 02 Sep 2012 12:34:17 -0400, Brooklyn1 <Gravesend1> wrote:
>> snip
>>>Talking about true junk food my neighbor's son started a new job about
>>>three months ago, he has a distributership delivering Tasty Kake to
>>>the area's stupidmarkets and smaller stores, has about 50 stops a
>>>week. He was telling me how each day he pulls the products as they
>>>approach their sell-by date and either has to give them away or dump
>>>them in the trash. He told me that no one wants them, not even the
>>>food banks so he dumps them.
>
>He's lying. All the food banks will take them unless they simply have
>too much food or they have visible mold. Those things will last
>probably 6-12+ months after their expiration date. And I've never
>heard of a food bank that is overstocked.
>

Here's what the Capital Region food bank says- [just north of Sheldon]
http://www.rfbneny.com/donate/donate-food/
"Code dates –guidelines are researched and followed for safely
utilizing close or past dated products"


It is a shame that it is probably more humane to give that crap to
undernourished people than to feed wild animals with it.

Jim

"Sqwertz" > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 03 Sep 2012 13:41:13 -0600, Janet Bostwick wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 3 Sep 2012 14:03:54 -0500, Sqwertz >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>He's lying. All the food banks will take them unless they simply have
>>>too much food or they have visible mold. Those things will last
>>>probably 6-12+ months after their expiration date. And I've never
>>>heard of a food bank that is overstocked.
>> snip
>>
>> I don't know. . .policies differ so much from area to area. A lot of
>> the food banks (maybe all for all I know) are prohibited from
>> accepting anything with a past expiration date on it.
>
> That's not true. The USDA set standards that most food banks (the
> ones that rely on funds from the USDA) on what they are allowed to
> accept. The only thing that they cannot accept/distribute that has
> expired is baby foods and adult formulas, or foods given to the food
> banks directly by the USDA (manufactured/shipped specifically to food
> banks well before the expirations date). Those foods usually have to
> have an expiration in the FUTURE to allow time for distribution.
> Those are the only products that cannot be distributed after the
> expiration date.
>
> Here ae a couple of typical guides that food banks use to determine if
> a product is still safe for distribution. This applies food donated
> by individuals or private corporations (grocery stores, restaurant
> distributors, manufacturers, etc...)
>
> http://www.pittsburghfoodbank.org/pd...fLifeGuide.pdf
>
> Which closely matches this one:
>
> http://www.austinfoodbank.org/partne...ableandnon.pdf
>
> Note that these are not all-inclusive lists. Baked goods/cakes on
> these lists refers to the loosely packaged breads, pastries, cakes
> produced/sold as short-lived goods in the bakery sections, not the
> junk foods you see boxed up in the junk food aisles that already have
> expiration dates of 4-6 months from manufacture (ie. Tasty Cakes,
> Little Debbie).
>
> And FWIW: Tasty Cakes (Zingers!) just re-appeared here in Texas about
> 4-6 months ago. They have not been moving off the shelves due to what
> I consider obnoxious prices compared to, say, Little Debbie and the
> like. And many of those TastyCakes have made their way to the Austin
> food banks and back out through the distribution channels to the food
> pantries. I know this because I work at a food bank.
>
> Ironically, food banks are most concerned about dented cans (food
> labels being the #2 concern). Even a small dent in a can be reason to
> reject it. A new Federal ruling will relax the guidelines for
> accepting/distributing dented goods - somebody finally realized those
> cans probably ARE still edible. And that is a large amount of food
> (there are a lot of warehouse/backroom forklift accidents).

This subject came up on a forum that I frequent and many food banks will not
take expired food. The one here will not but... My friend used to work at
a soup kitchen in Seattle and he said they did serve expired baked goods in
there.

On Mon, 3 Sep 2012 19:06:06 -0500, Sqwertz >
wrote:

>On Mon, 03 Sep 2012 13:41:13 -0600, Janet Bostwick wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 3 Sep 2012 14:03:54 -0500, Sqwertz >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>He's lying. All the food banks will take them unless they simply have
>>>too much food or they have visible mold. Those things will last
>>>probably 6-12+ months after their expiration date. And I've never
>>>heard of a food bank that is overstocked.
>> snip
>>
>> I don't know. . .policies differ so much from area to area. A lot of
>> the food banks (maybe all for all I know) are prohibited from
>> accepting anything with a past expiration date on it.
>
>That's not true. The USDA set standards that most food banks (the
>ones that rely on funds from the USDA) on what they are allowed to
>accept. The only thing that they cannot accept/distribute that has
>expired is baby foods and adult formulas, or foods given to the food
>banks directly by the USDA (manufactured/shipped specifically to food
>banks well before the expirations date). Those foods usually have to
>have an expiration in the FUTURE to allow time for distribution.
>Those are the only products that cannot be distributed after the
>expiration date.
>
>Here ae a couple of typical guides that food banks use to determine if
>a product is still safe for distribution. This applies food donated
>by individuals or private corporations (grocery stores, restaurant
>distributors, manufacturers, etc...)
>
>http://www.pittsburghfoodbank.org/pd...fLifeGuide.pdf
>
>Which closely matches this one:
>
>http://www.austinfoodbank.org/partne...ableandnon.pdf
>
>Note that these are not all-inclusive lists. Baked goods/cakes on
>these lists refers to the loosely packaged breads, pastries, cakes
>produced/sold as short-lived goods in the bakery sections, not the
>junk foods you see boxed up in the junk food aisles that already have
>expiration dates of 4-6 months from manufacture (ie. Tasty Cakes,
>Little Debbie).
>
>And FWIW: Tasty Cakes (Zingers!) just re-appeared here in Texas about
>4-6 months ago. They have not been moving off the shelves due to what
>I consider obnoxious prices compared to, say, Little Debbie and the
>like. And many of those TastyCakes have made their way to the Austin
>food banks and back out through the distribution channels to the food
>pantries. I know this because I work at a food bank.
>
>Ironically, food banks are most concerned about dented cans (food
>labels being the #2 concern). Even a small dent in a can be reason to
>reject it. A new Federal ruling will relax the guidelines for
>accepting/distributing dented goods - somebody finally realized those
>cans probably ARE still edible. And that is a large amount of food
>(there are a lot of warehouse/backroom forklift accidents).
>
>-sw
Thank you for that information. It was very helpful.
Janet US

On Mon, 03 Sep 2012 20:22:35 -0400, Jim Elbrecht >
wrote:

>On Mon, 3 Sep 2012 14:03:54 -0500, Sqwertz >
>wrote:
>
>>> On Sun, 02 Sep 2012 12:34:17 -0400, Brooklyn1 <Gravesend1> wrote:
>>> snip
>>>>Talking about true junk food my neighbor's son started a new job about
>>>>three months ago, he has a distributership delivering Tasty Kake to
>>>>the area's stupidmarkets and smaller stores, has about 50 stops a
>>>>week. He was telling me how each day he pulls the products as they
>>>>approach their sell-by date and either has to give them away or dump
>>>>them in the trash. He told me that no one wants them, not even the
>>>>food banks so he dumps them.
>>
>>He's lying. All the food banks will take them unless they simply have
>>too much food or they have visible mold. Those things will last
>>probably 6-12+ months after their expiration date. And I've never
>>heard of a food bank that is overstocked.
>>
>
>Here's what the Capital Region food bank says- [just north of Sheldon]
>http://www.rfbneny.com/donate/donate-food/
>"Code dates –guidelines are researched and followed for safely
>utilizing close or past dated products"

That web site remains mute on which catagories of foods they don't
accept.

>It is a shame that it is probably more humane to give that crap to
>undernourished people than to feed wild animals with it.

You've no idea how awful that TastyKake crap is. Now that I sampled
enough and spit it out I know exactly why food banks reject it... I
don't consider it a food... it will all go into this week's trash.

Actually I think my neighbor's son was very silly to give up his job
to deliver this garbage, he had put in 14 years at a major office
supply regional distribution warehouse and became a manager, with good
pay and benefits. He told me that he prefered the freedom to drive
around all day rather than being cooped up with the same old people, I
said nothing. I know that warehouse, it's in an industrial park, that
building is humungous, can easily hold ten football fields. I realize
that he is very immature, has never married, doesn't date, is 40 years
old and lives with his mother. He was very proud to bring me all
those products, explaning each one like I was a prospective client. I
think he will be disappointed when I tell him not to bring me any
more... I have to come up with a good reason that won't offend him.

On Mon, 3 Sep 2012 20:07:29 -0500, Sqwertz >
wrote:

>On Mon, 03 Sep 2012 20:22:35 -0400, Jim Elbrecht wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 3 Sep 2012 14:03:54 -0500, Sqwertz >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>> On Sun, 02 Sep 2012 12:34:17 -0400, Brooklyn1 <Gravesend1> wrote:
>>>> snip
>>>>>Talking about true junk food my neighbor's son started a new job about
>>>>>three months ago, he has a distributership delivering Tasty Kake to
>>>>>the area's stupidmarkets and smaller stores, has about 50 stops a
>>>>>week. He was telling me how each day he pulls the products as they
>>>>>approach their sell-by date and either has to give them away or dump
>>>>>them in the trash. He told me that no one wants them, not even the
>>>>>food banks so he dumps them.
>>>
>>>He's lying. All the food banks will take them unless they simply have
>>>too much food or they have visible mold. Those things will last
>>>probably 6-12+ months after their expiration date. And I've never
>>>heard of a food bank that is overstocked.
>>>
>>
>> Here's what the Capital Region food bank says- [just north of Sheldon]
>> http://www.rfbneny.com/donate/donate-food/
>
>This part is odd:
>
>"Venison Donation Coalition of New York State
>
>In 2008, the Food Bank received 6,465 pounds of venison thanks to
>generous hunters. For information on how to donate venison and to find
>a processor in your county, please go to
>http://www.venisondonation.com"
>
>I say odd because the USDA does not allow wild animals to be sold
>retail for human consumption due to health concerns. Yet here they
>are endorsing giving the stuff away to poor people.
>
>One of the things that is highly stressed in all aspects of the food
>bank/pantry operations is that the food can and will be distributed to
>children (especially) and the elderly - both which have susceptible
>immune systems, so food safety is even more strict than on the
>commercial/retail level.
>
>Seems kinda two-faced.
>
>-sw

Around here, large animals that have road accidents are donated.
That's assuming that discovery or reporting is timely. It would be a
shame to haul a full size elk off to the dump. No animal should be
discarded with so little respect.
Janet us

"Sqwertz" > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 3 Sep 2012 19:06:06 -0500, Sqwertz wrote:
>
>> And FWIW: Tasty Cakes (Zingers!) just re-appeared here in Texas about
>> 4-6 months ago.
>
> Zingers didn't sound right. So I looked at the TastyKake site...
> "Krimpets" is what I was thinking of. They are Zingers with odd
> indentations in the sides. I think Zingers were Dolly Madison, now
> that I remembering the commercials from the 70's with the Peanuts
> Gang.

I think Zingers where like a sponge cake with stripes of jelly. And I think
they were Dolly Madison.

"Sqwertz" > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 3 Sep 2012 17:34:50 -0700, Julie Bove wrote:
>
>> This subject came up on a forum that I frequent and many food banks will
>> not
>> take expired food.
>
> Well, I'd like to know the credentials of the people who said that,
> and in what context.
>
> No, I don't want cites to their conversation. But unless they live in
> some podunk or bedroom community, I'm tending to think they don't know
> WTF they're talking about.

These are in some cases people who have worked at a food bank and had to
throw out expired food. Or people who have been forced to use a food bank.
I don't think any of them live around here but I am not really sure.

"Sqwertz" > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 3 Sep 2012 19:47:31 -0700, Julie Bove wrote:
>
>> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Mon, 3 Sep 2012 17:34:50 -0700, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>>> This subject came up on a forum that I frequent and many food banks
>>>> will
>>>> not
>>>> take expired food.
>>>
>>> Well, I'd like to know the credentials of the people who said that,
>>> and in what context.
>>>
>>> No, I don't want cites to their conversation. But unless they live in
>>> some podunk or bedroom community, I'm tending to think they don't know
>>> WTF they're talking about.
>>
>> These are in some cases people who have worked at a food bank and had to
>> throw out expired food. Or people who have been forced to use a food
>> bank.
>> I don't think any of them live around here but I am not really sure.
>
> Well I'm telling you it's just not done at a normal food bank under
> normal situations. Something that sits on a grocery shelf for 1-2
> years is not suddenly deadly or unhealthy once the clock counts down
> to Zero.
>
> Yes, lots of food is thrown away for various reasons. But food -
> especially dry, canned, and/or processed packaged food - discarded
> based on recent expiration date alone is rare at any food bank or food
> pantry worth anything.

After you posted this I did look it up and saw a variety of answers. Seems
the rules really do vary from food bank to food bank.

I do know though that the contents of an expired can of tomatoes really does
suffer. When we first moved here I accidentally bought some expired
tomatoes at Albertsons. They were on a floor stack and on sale so I assumed
they were new stock. Nope! They were only slightly expired. I also had
another can of unexpired tomatoes. I opened both and peered inside. The
expired ones were a totally different color and texture. I opted not to eat
them.

I have had cans of beans and corn that were expired and they appeared to be
fine.

I have had a can of mushrooms that for whatever reason seemed to have
exploded in my cupboard. They were not expired.