"Andy" > wrote in message ...
> VOT: More killing in Camden, NJ. CAUTION: Explicit.
>
> While a Mom was in a hospital recovery, an intruder broke into her house
> at
> 2am on Saturday. The killer slit the throats of a six year old boy who
> died
> and a 12 year old girl, currently in critical condition.
>
> Two other girls did manage to escape.
>
> The 12 year old girl was able to identify the murderer, who is not yet in
> custody.
>
> What did they ever do to anybody? ((
>
> Whenever Camden is mentioned in the news, it's never good news.
>
> Andy

Some interesting New Jersey quotes (explicit):
http://www.urbandictionary.com/defin...m=new%20jersey


W. Pooh (AKA Winnie P.)

On 9/3/2012 12:36 PM, Christopher M. wrote:
> "Andy" > wrote in message ...
>> VOT: More killing in Camden, NJ. CAUTION: Explicit.
>>
>> While a Mom was in a hospital recovery, an intruder broke into her house
>> at
>> 2am on Saturday. The killer slit the throats of a six year old boy who
>> died
>> and a 12 year old girl, currently in critical condition.
>>
>> Two other girls did manage to escape.
>>
>> The 12 year old girl was able to identify the murderer, who is not yet in
>> custody.
>>
>> What did they ever do to anybody? ((
>>
>> Whenever Camden is mentioned in the news, it's never good news.
>>
>> Andy
>
> Some interesting New Jersey quotes (explicit):
> http://www.urbandictionary.com/defin...m=new%20jersey
>

That first one pretty much says it all.

Janet, Jersey Girl and proud of it.


--
Janet Wilder
Way-the-heck-south Texas
Spelling doesn't count. Cooking does.

"Andy" > wrote in message ...
> "Christopher M." > wrote:
>
>> Some interesting New Jersey quotes (explicit):
>> http://www.urbandictionary.com/defin...m=new%20jersey
>
>
>
> Christopher,
>
> In response to:
> _____________
> A bit-o-history: Some statesman in the 1700s compared NJ to an immense
> barrel, filled with good things to eat and open at both ends, with
> Pennsylvanians grabbing from one end and the New Yorkers from the other.
> Perhaps PA & NY have drained the periphery areas of NJ so much that they
> are now the blight that gives NJ such a bad rap. Just a thought.
> _____________
>
> In return for taking New Jersey's trash for PA's landfills,
> Pennsylvanians are duly entitled to own 51% of their beachfront property.
> Atlantic City is NOT considered beachfront property! <VBG>
>
> Best,,
>
> Andy

Life just isn't fair.

Oh, well. At least you have Hershey's, and the Amish, and Ben Franklin.


W. Pooh (AKA Winnie P.)

"Janet Wilder" > wrote in message
b.com...
> On 9/3/2012 12:36 PM, Christopher M. wrote:
>> "Andy" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> VOT: More killing in Camden, NJ. CAUTION: Explicit.
>>>
>>> While a Mom was in a hospital recovery, an intruder broke into her house
>>> at
>>> 2am on Saturday. The killer slit the throats of a six year old boy who
>>> died
>>> and a 12 year old girl, currently in critical condition.
>>>
>>> Two other girls did manage to escape.
>>>
>>> The 12 year old girl was able to identify the murderer, who is not yet
>>> in
>>> custody.
>>>
>>> What did they ever do to anybody? ((
>>>
>>> Whenever Camden is mentioned in the news, it's never good news.
>>>
>>> Andy
>>
>> Some interesting New Jersey quotes (explicit):
>> http://www.urbandictionary.com/defin...m=new%20jersey
>>
>
> That first one pretty much says it all.
>
> Janet, Jersey Girl and proud of it.

I'm from Massachusetts.

I couldn't drive 80 mph.

And here, like in most places, people take the finger (and even beeping your
horn) personally.


W. Pooh (AKA Winnie P.)

"Andy" > wrote in message ...
> "Christopher M." > wrote:
>
>>> In return for taking New Jersey's trash for PA's landfills,
>>> Pennsylvanians are duly entitled to own 51% of their beachfront
>>> property. Atlantic City is NOT considered beachfront property! <VBG>
>>>
>>> Best,,
>>>
>>> Andy
>>
>> Life just isn't fair.
>>
>> Oh, well. At least you have Hershey's, and the Amish, and Ben
>> Franklin.
>
>
>
> Christopher,
>
> Except for the casinos that line the sand in Atlantic City, the actual
> Atlantic city is slum.
>
> A few dirty little Atlantic City secrets. Where there's casinos there's
> organized crime. Where there's organized crime, there's no beachfront
> housing, just lots of casino hotel rooms.
>
> A block or so off the sand Atlantic City is the forgotten poor and slums.
>
> The Vegas casino owners, to establish casinos in Atlantic City said they
> would hire the city's population to work the casinos. Once they got
> permission, guess what? A small percentage of hires were local residents
> for menial jobs. The casino and in the public eye view jobs were given to
> Las Vegas casino transplants who live in outlying towns. Those employees
> drive to long separate casino run parking lots on the Atlantic City
> expressway miles away and are bused to work and back. City residents
> could walk to work in minutes. While a logical system since gambling
> guest parking is paramount, if I was a local city resident casino
> resident, I'd use local bus transit instead and save money and time to
> drive out of town and then get bused to a casino five or ten blocks from
> home.
>
> That the way it's been since 1976 when the casinos first opened their
> doors.
>
> More recently, say the mid 1990s, the casino realizing the local
> residents weren't gambling, so to leech every last cent they put in penny
> slot machines!
>
> Before all the casinos opened in and around PA, getting a direct flight
> to Vegas was realistically not possible. Atlantic City AND bust, baby!!!
>
> So THAT's why Atlantic City isn't considered beachfront property until
> the end of the world as we know it.
>
> Someday when enough casinos in PA pop up, Atlantic City will collapse and
> go the way of Asbury Park. A beach ghost town.

They probably said the same thing about New Orleans decades ago. New Orleans
is still a big tourist attraction, even without the brothels.

But I have heard that they have some ugly brick buildings in Atlantic City.


W. Pooh (AKA Winnie P.)

"Andy" > wrote in message ...
> "Christopher M." > wrote:
>
>> But I have heard that they have some ugly brick buildings in Atlantic
>> City.
>
>
>
> You'd have to check photo archives from the 1950s, 1960s. and maybe early
> 1970s.
>
> Even the beach was slum. The casino builders demolished the whole stretch
> of beach. I've never walked the beach boardwalk so maybe there are a few
> left I missed.
>
> The city slum housing is one or two story dilapidated houses.
>
> Just like Vegas, you know you've arrived when all the casinos neon
> lighting glitter in beautiful colors from one end of town to the other,
> effectively rendering the slum housing invisible. I call it being blinded
> by lights.
>
> Best,
>
> Andy

I went to Atlantic City once. I never wanted to go back. We ate at some
place on the boardwalk. I can't remember what it was that I ate but I got
really sick afterwards.

The thing that really surprised me was how hard it was to get a drink there!
I am not a big casino person having only been to the ones in this state a
couple of times and the ones in Reno, Vegas and Tahoe a few times. But
there, as long as you are playing the slots or the tables or whatever, they
bring you free drinks. Not in Atlantic City! To get a drink there you have
to find a bar and buy it. We didn't even see any bars in the casinos
themselves. They were downstairs.

On Mon, 3 Sep 2012 18:03:11 -0400, "Christopher M."
> wrote:

>
> "Janet Wilder" > wrote in message
> b.com...
> > On 9/3/2012 12:36 PM, Christopher M. wrote:
> >>
> >> Some interesting New Jersey quotes (explicit):
> >> http://www.urbandictionary.com/defin...m=new%20jersey
> >>
> >
> > That first one pretty much says it all.
> >
> > Janet, Jersey Girl and proud of it.
>
> I'm from Massachusetts.
>
> I couldn't drive 80 mph.
>
> And here, like in most places, people take the finger (and even beeping your
> horn) personally.
>
Do cars that are behind the first in line at a stoplight in Rhode
Island still honk while the light is still red? I thought that was so
rude.

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

On Mon, 3 Sep 2012 18:03:11 -0400, "Christopher M."
> wrote:



>
>I'm from Massachusetts.
>
>I couldn't drive 80 mph.
>

Why not? I drive in MA most every day. Often at 80 mph. On parts of
495 you'd get run over if you did less.

On Mon, 03 Sep 2012 19:11:47 -0700, sf > wrote:

>>
>Do cars that are behind the first in line at a stoplight in Rhode
>Island still honk while the light is still red? I thought that was so
>rude.

Never had that happen in 31 years. I go to RI a couple of times a
month.

"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 3 Sep 2012 18:03:11 -0400, "Christopher M."
> > wrote:
>
>
>
>>
>>I'm from Massachusetts.
>>
>>I couldn't drive 80 mph.
>>
>
> Why not? I drive in MA most every day. Often at 80 mph. On parts of
> 495 you'd get run over if you did less.

If you're doing 70, and you blow a tire, you're pretty much dead.


W. Pooh (AKA Winnie P.)

On 2012-09-04, Christopher M. > wrote:
>
> If you're doing 70, and you blow a tire, you're pretty much dead.

In CA, only dead ppl drive that slow!

nb

--
Definition of objectivism:
"Eff you! I got mine."
http://www.nongmoproject.org/

On 9/3/2012 10:27 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On Mon, 3 Sep 2012 18:03:11 -0400, "Christopher M."
> > wrote:

>> I'm from Massachusetts.
>>
>> I couldn't drive 80 mph.
>>
>
> Why not? I drive in MA most every day. Often at 80 mph. On parts of
> 495 you'd get run over if you did less.

I don't do 80 any more, but I certainly did when I was commuting
up the Parkway or the Turnpike. Go much slower and you'd better
keep your butt in the right lane and maybe consider not driving
on those roads that time of the day if you're not comfortable.

nancy

notbob wrote:

>> If you're doing 70, and you blow a tire, you're pretty much dead.

> In CA, only dead ppl drive that slow!

I wish you never find a driver from Ghana, they're the slowest drivers I
have ever seen, they drive at 40 km/h on a wide road with perfect
visivility, no traffic and no rain and where the speed limit is 90. The only
ones driving that slow are the elders but only if wearing a hat, the much
feared "drivers with a hat"

On 2012-09-04 04:14:26 +0000, Christopher M. said:

> "Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Mon, 3 Sep 2012 18:03:11 -0400, "Christopher M."
>> > wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> I'm from Massachusetts.
>>>
>>> I couldn't drive 80 mph.
>>>
>>
>> Why not? I drive in MA most every day. Often at 80 mph. On parts of
>> 495 you'd get run over if you did less.
>
> If you're doing 70, and you blow a tire, you're pretty much dead.

There's a long line of "ifs" that produce horror and death.

On Tue, 4 Sep 2012 00:14:26 -0400, "Christopher M."
> wrote:

>"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Mon, 3 Sep 2012 18:03:11 -0400, "Christopher M."
>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>I'm from Massachusetts.
>>>
>>>I couldn't drive 80 mph.
>>>
>>
>> Why not? I drive in MA most every day. Often at 80 mph. On parts of
>> 495 you'd get run over if you did less.
>
>If you're doing 70, and you blow a tire, you're pretty much dead.

That's not true. Haven't you seen any of the high speed chases in
CA... the CHP puts out spikes and the perp keeps going like nothing
happened, and all four tires could be blown. You probably never drove
a car with power steering... with todays cars and tires one can drive
with a fully flat tire for miles and not realize it until someone
alerts them or the tire disintergrates and they hear the sound of
driving on the rim, and it could still take a minute for it to sink in
that something is wrong.

On Sep 4, 7:22*am, "ViLco" > wrote:
> notbob wrote:
> >> If you're doing 70, and you blow a tire, you're pretty much dead.
> > In CA, only dead ppl drive that slow! *
>
> I wish you never find a driver from Ghana, they're the slowest drivers I
> have ever seen, they drive at 40 km/h on a wide road with perfect
> visivility, no traffic and no rain and where the speed limit is 90. The only
> ones driving that slow are the elders but only if wearing a hat, the much
> feared "drivers with a hat"

LOL- the dreaded "Fedora"!!

On Tue, 4 Sep 2012 10:00:42 -0700 (PDT), merryb >
wrote:

> On Sep 4, 7:22*am, "ViLco" > wrote:
> > notbob wrote:
> > >> If you're doing 70, and you blow a tire, you're pretty much dead.
> > > In CA, only dead ppl drive that slow! *
> >
> > I wish you never find a driver from Ghana, they're the slowest drivers I
> > have ever seen, they drive at 40 km/h on a wide road with perfect
> > visivility, no traffic and no rain and where the speed limit is 90. The only
> > ones driving that slow are the elders but only if wearing a hat, the much
> > feared "drivers with a hat"
>
> LOL- the dreaded "Fedora"!!

We always said "beware of old men in hats" (driving big cars went
unsaid).

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

sf wrote:
> On Tue, 4 Sep 2012 10:00:42 -0700 (PDT), merryb >
> wrote:
>
>
>> On Sep 4, 7:22 am, "ViLco" > wrote:
>>
>>> notbob wrote:
>>>
>>>>> If you're doing 70, and you blow a tire, you're pretty much dead.
>>>>>
>>>> In CA, only dead ppl drive that slow!
>>>>
>>> I wish you never find a driver from Ghana, they're the slowest drivers I
>>> have ever seen, they drive at 40 km/h on a wide road with perfect
>>> visivility, no traffic and no rain and where the speed limit is 90. The only
>>> ones driving that slow are the elders but only if wearing a hat, the much
>>> feared "drivers with a hat"
>>>
>> LOL- the dreaded "Fedora"!!
>>
>
> We always said "beware of old men in hats" (driving big cars went
> unsaid).
>

"Old man in a hat" driving a small pickup truck is just as bad; maybe
worse. :-)

Bob

On Tue, 04 Sep 2012 14:18:50 -0500, zxcvbob >
wrote:

> sf wrote:
> > On Tue, 4 Sep 2012 10:00:42 -0700 (PDT), merryb >
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> >> On Sep 4, 7:22 am, "ViLco" > wrote:
> >>
> >>> The only
> >>> ones driving that slow are the elders but only if wearing a hat, the much
> >>> feared "drivers with a hat"
> >>>
> >> LOL- the dreaded "Fedora"!!
> >>
> >
> > We always said "beware of old men in hats" (driving big cars went
> > unsaid).
> >
>
> "Old man in a hat" driving a small pickup truck is just as bad; maybe
> worse. :-)
>

Hopefully they were on country roads... preferably country back roads.


--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

"Brooklyn1" <Gravesend1> wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 4 Sep 2012 00:14:26 -0400, "Christopher M."
> > wrote:
>
>>"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
. ..
>>> On Mon, 3 Sep 2012 18:03:11 -0400, "Christopher M."
>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>I'm from Massachusetts.
>>>>
>>>>I couldn't drive 80 mph.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Why not? I drive in MA most every day. Often at 80 mph. On parts of
>>> 495 you'd get run over if you did less.
>>
>>If you're doing 70, and you blow a tire, you're pretty much dead.
>
> That's not true. Haven't you seen any of the high speed chases in
> CA... the CHP puts out spikes and the perp keeps going like nothing
> happened, and all four tires could be blown.

All four tires are blown, so there's no swerving to the side.


W. Pooh (AKA Winnie P.)

On Tue, 4 Sep 2012 18:36:06 -0400, "Christopher M."
> wrote:

>
>"Brooklyn1" <Gravesend1> wrote in message
.. .
>> On Tue, 4 Sep 2012 00:14:26 -0400, "Christopher M."
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
...
>>>> On Mon, 3 Sep 2012 18:03:11 -0400, "Christopher M."
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>I'm from Massachusetts.
>>>>>
>>>>>I couldn't drive 80 mph.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Why not? I drive in MA most every day. Often at 80 mph. On parts of
>>>> 495 you'd get run over if you did less.
>>>
>>>If you're doing 70, and you blow a tire, you're pretty much dead.
>>
>> That's not true. Haven't you seen any of the high speed chases in
>> CA... the CHP puts out spikes and the perp keeps going like nothing
>> happened, and all four tires could be blown.
>
>All four tires are blown, so there's no swerving to the side.

Have you ever blown a tire? I blew two in one trip from NC to NY
in 1970. 1965 Corvair Corsa- doing 75 on I95. First one was a
rear tire. That scared me a bit but no damage was done. A few
hundred miles later I blew a front one. Love those cheap
re-treads.

If a 65 corvair with a very tired, inexperienced driver can survive a
blowout or two-- I think you're overestimating the danger there.

If you crash because of a blown tire, you're either really unlucky or
you panicked and did something stupid.

Jim

On Sep 4, 3:38*pm, "Christopher M." > wrote:
> "Brooklyn1" <Gravesend1> wrote in message
>
> ...
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Tue, 4 Sep 2012 00:14:26 -0400, "Christopher M."
> > > wrote:
>
> >>"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
> . ..
> >>> On Mon, 3 Sep 2012 18:03:11 -0400, "Christopher M."
> >>> > wrote:
>
> >>>>I'm from Massachusetts.
>
> >>>>I couldn't drive 80 mph.
>
> >>> Why not? *I drive in MA most every day. *Often at 80 mph. *On parts of
> >>> 495 you'd get run over if you did less.
>
> >>If you're doing 70, and you blow a tire, you're pretty much dead.
>
> > That's not true. *Haven't you seen any of the high speed chases in
> > CA... the CHP puts out spikes and the perp keeps going like nothing
> > happened, and all four tires could be blown.
>
> All four tires are blown, so there's no swerving to the side.
>
> W. Pooh (AKA Winnie P.)

Not always. sometime the cops only get one tire or two..and many times
none.

On 04/09/2012 7:32 PM, Jim Elbrecht wrote:

>> All four tires are blown, so there's no swerving to the side.
>
> Have you ever blown a tire? I blew two in one trip from NC to NY
> in 1970. 1965 Corvair Corsa- doing 75 on I95. First one was a
> rear tire. That scared me a bit but no damage was done. A few
> hundred miles later I blew a front one. Love those cheap
> re-treads.
>
> If a 65 corvair with a very tired, inexperienced driver can survive a
> blowout or two-- I think you're overestimating the danger there.
>
> If you crash because of a blown tire, you're either really unlucky or
> you panicked and did something stupid.
>
>


Re treads are no more prone to blowing than regular tires. It is usually
because of low air pressure.

On Tue, 4 Sep 2012 18:36:06 -0400, "Christopher M."
> wrote:

>
>"Brooklyn1" <Gravesend1> wrote in message
.. .
>> On Tue, 4 Sep 2012 00:14:26 -0400, "Christopher M."
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
...
>>>> On Mon, 3 Sep 2012 18:03:11 -0400, "Christopher M."
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>I'm from Massachusetts.
>>>>>
>>>>>I couldn't drive 80 mph.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Why not? I drive in MA most every day. Often at 80 mph. On parts of
>>>> 495 you'd get run over if you did less.
>>>
>>>If you're doing 70, and you blow a tire, you're pretty much dead.
>>
>> That's not true. Haven't you seen any of the high speed chases in
>> CA... the CHP puts out spikes and the perp keeps going like nothing
>> happened, and all four tires could be blown.
>
>All four tires are blown, so there's no swerving to the side.

I said all four tires *could* be blown, but rarely are.

On 9/4/2012 6:44 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 04/09/2012 7:32 PM, Jim Elbrecht wrote:
>
>>> All four tires are blown, so there's no swerving to the side.
>>
>> Have you ever blown a tire? I blew two in one trip from NC to NY
>> in 1970. 1965 Corvair Corsa- doing 75 on I95. First one was a
>> rear tire. That scared me a bit but no damage was done. A few
>> hundred miles later I blew a front one. Love those cheap
>> re-treads.
>>
>> If a 65 corvair with a very tired, inexperienced driver can survive a
>> blowout or two-- I think you're overestimating the danger there.
>>
>> If you crash because of a blown tire, you're either really unlucky or
>> you panicked and did something stupid.
>>
>>
>
>
> Re treads are no more prone to blowing than regular tires. It is usually
> because of low air pressure.
>


I'm gonna get retreads next time I buy truck tires. Never tried them
before. But I think the current set still has a couple of years left
before they need replacing.

https://www.treadwright.com/p-14-215...iom-a-t-e.aspx

Bob

Dave Smith > wrote:

>On 04/09/2012 7:32 PM, Jim Elbrecht wrote:
>
>>> All four tires are blown, so there's no swerving to the side.
>>
>> Have you ever blown a tire? I blew two in one trip from NC to NY
>> in 1970. 1965 Corvair Corsa- doing 75 on I95. First one was a
>> rear tire. That scared me a bit but no damage was done. A few
>> hundred miles later I blew a front one. Love those cheap
>> re-treads.

-snip-
>Re treads are no more prone to blowing than regular tires. It is usually
>because of low air pressure.

*Todays* retreads are not-- 1970 retreads were renowned for it. but
they were *real* cheap.

Jim

On 04/09/2012 8:51 PM, Jim Elbrecht wrote:
> Dave Smith > wrote:
>
>> On 04/09/2012 7:32 PM, Jim Elbrecht wrote:
>>
>>>> All four tires are blown, so there's no swerving to the side.
>>>
>>> Have you ever blown a tire? I blew two in one trip from NC to NY
>>> in 1970. 1965 Corvair Corsa- doing 75 on I95. First one was a
>>> rear tire. That scared me a bit but no damage was done. A few
>>> hundred miles later I blew a front one. Love those cheap
>>> re-treads.
>
> -snip-
>> Re treads are no more prone to blowing than regular tires. It is usually
>> because of low air pressure.
>
> *Todays* retreads are not-- 1970 retreads were renowned for it. but
> they were *real* cheap.
>
Back in the 70s tires were just starting to get better. FWIW, in the
mid 70s I had a job working on a highway crew. Part of the job was
cleaning up the blown out tires at the side of the road. I picked up
more Michelins than all other tires combined.

"Jim Elbrecht" > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 4 Sep 2012 18:36:06 -0400, "Christopher M."
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>"Brooklyn1" <Gravesend1> wrote in message
. ..
>>> On Tue, 4 Sep 2012 00:14:26 -0400, "Christopher M."
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
m...
>>>>> On Mon, 3 Sep 2012 18:03:11 -0400, "Christopher M."
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I'm from Massachusetts.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I couldn't drive 80 mph.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Why not? I drive in MA most every day. Often at 80 mph. On parts of
>>>>> 495 you'd get run over if you did less.
>>>>
>>>>If you're doing 70, and you blow a tire, you're pretty much dead.
>>>
>>> That's not true. Haven't you seen any of the high speed chases in
>>> CA... the CHP puts out spikes and the perp keeps going like nothing
>>> happened, and all four tires could be blown.
>>
>>All four tires are blown, so there's no swerving to the side.
>
> Have you ever blown a tire?

Yes. I was only doing 40 mph and my vehicle swerved dangerously.

I guess it must have been a front blowout.
http://www.weather.com/activities/dr...s/blowout.html


W. Pooh (AKA Winnie P.)

On 9/4/2012 2:43 PM, zxcvbob wrote:
>
> I'm gonna get retreads next time I buy truck tires. Never tried them
> before. But I think the current set still has a couple of years left
> before they need replacing.
>
> https://www.treadwright.com/p-14-215...iom-a-t-e.aspx
>
> Bob

Retreads are a good deal. The main problem is that the quality of the
tire varies considerably - all those funny semi-circular rubber pieces
you see on the highway are from lousy retreads. The question is how can
you be sure that the retread job was done properly? The answer is that
you probably can't.

My brother-in-law lost his tire from a retread that failed. Bob Dylan
was hitching a ride with them at the time and witnessed rubber being
dropped from the truck in front of them. The brothers guess that it's
what Dylan was referring to by "a truck with no wheels" in the song
"Three Angels."

It must have been a heck of a trip because along with the busted tires,
there was a broken head gasket and my brother and Dylan had to go out
into the night searching for some weed that Dylan had agreed to procure
for them as payment for the ride. :-)

On 9/4/2012 8:23 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>
> Retreads are a good deal. The main problem is that the quality of the
> tire varies considerably - all those funny semi-circular rubber pieces
> you see on the highway are from lousy retreads.

"Alligators" :-)

Bob

On 9/4/2012 4:42 PM, zxcvbob wrote:
> On 9/4/2012 8:23 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>>
>> Retreads are a good deal. The main problem is that the quality of the
>> tire varies considerably - all those funny semi-circular rubber pieces
>> you see on the highway are from lousy retreads.
>
> "Alligators" :-)
>
> Bob

Good name for these dangerous highway predators. I suspect that these
kill more people than the reptiles ever did. I see these things on our
roads where we travel something like 45 MPH so the problem must be worse
on the mainland where folks travel a lot faster. Those gators should be
outlawed on our roads!