Here in the Western world, we call this guy "nuts", in Asia and other
parts of the world they call it a "delicacy". The poor guy picked the
wrong country.








http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012...ears-in-prison







(NBC NEWS) An Arizona drifter who skinned a cat and wore its tail and
innards around his neck was sentenced to two years in prison on Wednesday.

An Arizona Superior Court judge also sentenced Russell Christopher
Hofstad, 25, to four years probation on his release, the Maricopa County
Attorney’s office said.

Hofstad pleaded no contest last month to a felony animal cruelty charge
and guilty to a burglary charge. According to the criminal complaint,
police arrested Hofstad in January after he broke into a Phoenix
warehouse used as a music venue.












--
J Young


http://www.americandecency.org/

On 9/3/2012 2:01 PM, hypatiab7 wrote:
> On Monday, September 3, 2012 4:18:09 PM UTC-4, J wrote:
>> Here in the Western world, we call this
>> guy "nuts", in Asia and other parts of the world
>> they call it a "delicacy". The poor guy picked
>> the wrong country.
>
> You approve of people killing, cooking and eating cats? You're even worse than I thought you were.
> I didn't think that was possible. It's not a surprise, though. You've hit so many detestable lows
> that nothing you do is a surprise. It's expected.




The only thing that was expected is your lack of knowledge about other
cultures. You insult over 1.5 billion Chinese people.




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_5K-MHjxMw






--
J Young


http://www.americandecency.org/

J wrote:

> > You approve of people killing, cooking and eating cats? You're even worse than I thought you were.
> > I didn't think that was possible. It's not a surprise, though. You've hit so many detestable lows
> > that nothing you do is a surprise. It's expected.

> The only thing that was expected is your lack of knowledge about other
> cultures. You insult over 1.5 billion Chinese people.

That's total BS. Only in a few towns do they eat cats. The vast
majority of Chinese are as appalled as Americans are.

"George M. Middius" > wrote in message
...
>J wrote:
>
>> > You approve of people killing, cooking and eating cats? You're even
>> > worse than I thought you were.
>> > I didn't think that was possible. It's not a surprise, though. You've
>> > hit so many detestable lows
>> > that nothing you do is a surprise. It's expected.
>
>> The only thing that was expected is your lack of knowledge about other
>> cultures. You insult over 1.5 billion Chinese people.
>
> That's total BS. Only in a few towns do they eat cats. The vast
> majority of Chinese are as appalled as Americans are.
>
>


appalled or not as to the eating of cats, what does that have to do with
animal cruelty?

Pico Rico wrote:

> >> > You approve of people killing, cooking and eating cats? You're even
> >> > worse than I thought you were.

> >> The only thing that was expected is your lack of knowledge about other
> >> cultures. You insult over 1.5 billion Chinese people.
> >
> > That's total BS. Only in a few towns do they eat cats. The vast
> > majority of Chinese are as appalled as Americans are.

> appalled or not as to the eating of cats, what does that have to do with
> animal cruelty?

I don't follow your nonsequitur.

"George M. Middius" > wrote in message
...
> Pico Rico wrote:
>
>> >> > You approve of people killing, cooking and eating cats? You're even
>> >> > worse than I thought you were.
>
>> >> The only thing that was expected is your lack of knowledge about other
>> >> cultures. You insult over 1.5 billion Chinese people.
>> >
>> > That's total BS. Only in a few towns do they eat cats. The vast
>> > majority of Chinese are as appalled as Americans are.
>
>> appalled or not as to the eating of cats, what does that have to do with
>> animal cruelty?
>
> I don't follow your nonsequitur.
>
>

if you believe eating a cat is appalling, how does killing the cat equate to
animal cruelty?

if you believe eating a cat is not appalling, how does killing the cat
equate to animal cruelty?

Killing an animal is not, per se, animal cruelty. Even a cat.

Pico Rico wrote:

> >> > That's total BS. Only in a few towns do they eat cats. The vast
> >> > majority of Chinese are as appalled as Americans are.
> >
> >> appalled or not as to the eating of cats, what does that have to do with
> >> animal cruelty?
> >
> > I don't follow your nonsequitur.
> >
> >
>
> if you believe eating a cat is appalling, how does killing the cat equate to
> animal cruelty?

I don't know. Is that a trick question?

> if you believe eating a cat is not appalling, how does killing the cat
> equate to animal cruelty?
>
> Killing an animal is not, per se, animal cruelty. Even a cat.

I don't care about cruelty. You're asking the wrong person. Killing
and eating domesticated animals is barbaric.

On Sep 3, 6:10*pm, J > wrote:
> On 9/3/2012 2:01 PM, hypatiab7 wrote:
>
> > On Monday, September 3, 2012 4:18:09 PM UTC-4, J wrote:
> >> Here in the Western world, we call this
> >> guy "nuts", in Asia and other parts of the world
> >> they call it a "delicacy". The poor guy picked
> >> the wrong country.
>
> > You approve of people killing, cooking and eating cats? You're even worse than I thought you were.
> > I didn't think that was possible. It's not a surprise, though. You've hit so many detestable lows
> > that nothing you do is a surprise. It's expected.
>
> The only thing that was expected is your lack of knowledge about other
> cultures. You insult over 1.5 billion Chinese people.

Thus implying that they all eat cats. Who is setting Sino-American
relations back 100 years now?

On Mon, 03 Sep 2012 13:18:06 -0700, J > wrote:

>
>Here in the Western world, we call this guy "nuts", in Asia and other
>parts of the world they call it a "delicacy". The poor guy picked the
>wrong country.
>
>
>http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012...ears-in-prison
>
>(NBC NEWS) An Arizona drifter who skinned a cat and wore its tail and
>innards around his neck was sentenced to two years in prison on Wednesday.

He may be nuts, but he may just be hungry. Now he will get his next
2190 meals for free from the state.

On Sep 3, 4:18*pm, J > wrote:


The title was funnier than the story, it drew me in right off the
bat. I think it was the word drifter that got me. It's funny how
people get labeled. The guy could have been called just about
anything in the article - nut-case, loner, loser, burglar, whatever -
but they chose drifter, a pretty good choice. At least the guy was
not wasteful. Many would eat the cat and throw the guts away, this
guy put it to use. Lack of direction for his obvious creativity has
brought him to the doorstep of criminality. He could have been
another Picasso.

TJ

"Pico Rico" > wrote in message
...
>
> "George M. Middius" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Pico Rico wrote:
>>
>>> >> > You approve of people killing, cooking and eating cats? You're even
>>> >> > worse than I thought you were.
>>
>>> >> The only thing that was expected is your lack of knowledge about
>>> >> other
>>> >> cultures. You insult over 1.5 billion Chinese people.
>>> >
>>> > That's total BS. Only in a few towns do they eat cats. The vast
>>> > majority of Chinese are as appalled as Americans are.
>>
>>> appalled or not as to the eating of cats, what does that have to do with
>>> animal cruelty?
>>
>> I don't follow your nonsequitur.
>>
>>
>
> if you believe eating a cat is appalling, how does killing the cat equate
> to animal cruelty?
>
> if you believe eating a cat is not appalling, how does killing the cat
> equate to animal cruelty?
>
> Killing an animal is not, per se, animal cruelty. Even a cat.

Killing kitties or puppies is murder.

"George M. Middius" > wrote in message
...
> Pico Rico wrote:
>
>> >> > That's total BS. Only in a few towns do they eat cats. The vast
>> >> > majority of Chinese are as appalled as Americans are.
>> >
>> >> appalled or not as to the eating of cats, what does that have to do
>> >> with
>> >> animal cruelty?
>> >
>> > I don't follow your nonsequitur.
>> >
>> >
>>
>> if you believe eating a cat is appalling, how does killing the cat equate
>> to
>> animal cruelty?
>
> I don't know. Is that a trick question?
>
>> if you believe eating a cat is not appalling, how does killing the cat
>> equate to animal cruelty?
>>
>> Killing an animal is not, per se, animal cruelty. Even a cat.
>
> I don't care about cruelty. You're asking the wrong person. Killing
> and eating domesticated animals is barbaric.

Cows, chickens, pigs, sheep, chickens, turkeys, etc are domesticated
animals. You're saying it's barbaric to have a nice juicy steak or some
good old fashioned Oklahoma BBQ?

In article >,
"Zacharias Mulletstein" > wrote:

> "Pico Rico" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > "George M. Middius" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >> Pico Rico wrote:
> >>
> >>> >> > You approve of people killing, cooking and eating cats? You're even
> >>> >> > worse than I thought you were.
> >>
> >>> >> The only thing that was expected is your lack of knowledge about
> >>> >> other
> >>> >> cultures. You insult over 1.5 billion Chinese people.
> >>> >
> >>> > That's total BS. Only in a few towns do they eat cats. The vast
> >>> > majority of Chinese are as appalled as Americans are.
> >>
> >>> appalled or not as to the eating of cats, what does that have to do with
> >>> animal cruelty?
> >>
> >> I don't follow your nonsequitur.
> >>
> >>
> >
> > if you believe eating a cat is appalling, how does killing the cat equate
> > to animal cruelty?
> >
> > if you believe eating a cat is not appalling, how does killing the cat
> > equate to animal cruelty?
> >
> > Killing an animal is not, per se, animal cruelty. Even a cat.
>
> Killing kitties or puppies is murder.

I agree.

But I realize that other cultures don't think of dogs or cats as family
pets.

--
JD

"the lybian lier"

"Jeanne Douglas" > wrote in message
...
> In article >,
> "Zacharias Mulletstein" > wrote:
>
>> "Pico Rico" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> >
>> > "George M. Middius" > wrote in message
>> > ...
>> >> Pico Rico wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> >> > You approve of people killing, cooking and eating cats? You're
>> >>> >> > even
>> >>> >> > worse than I thought you were.
>> >>
>> >>> >> The only thing that was expected is your lack of knowledge about
>> >>> >> other
>> >>> >> cultures. You insult over 1.5 billion Chinese people.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > That's total BS. Only in a few towns do they eat cats. The vast
>> >>> > majority of Chinese are as appalled as Americans are.
>> >>
>> >>> appalled or not as to the eating of cats, what does that have to do
>> >>> with
>> >>> animal cruelty?
>> >>
>> >> I don't follow your nonsequitur.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> > if you believe eating a cat is appalling, how does killing the cat
>> > equate
>> > to animal cruelty?
>> >
>> > if you believe eating a cat is not appalling, how does killing the cat
>> > equate to animal cruelty?
>> >
>> > Killing an animal is not, per se, animal cruelty. Even a cat.
>>
>> Killing kitties or puppies is murder.
>
> I agree.
>
> But I realize that other cultures don't think of dogs or cats as family
> pets.

Cats and dogs have souls. Cattle and pigs do not. That's why it's wrong to
hate cats and dogs. It's okay to hurt fish because they don't have any
feelings.

In article >,
"Zacharias Mulletstein" > wrote:

> "Jeanne Douglas" > wrote in message
> ...
> > In article >,
> > "Zacharias Mulletstein" > wrote:
> >
> >> "Pico Rico" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >> >
> >> > "George M. Middius" > wrote in message
> >> > ...
> >> >> Pico Rico wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>> >> > You approve of people killing, cooking and eating cats? You're
> >> >>> >> > even
> >> >>> >> > worse than I thought you were.
> >> >>
> >> >>> >> The only thing that was expected is your lack of knowledge about
> >> >>> >> other
> >> >>> >> cultures. You insult over 1.5 billion Chinese people.
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > That's total BS. Only in a few towns do they eat cats. The vast
> >> >>> > majority of Chinese are as appalled as Americans are.
> >> >>
> >> >>> appalled or not as to the eating of cats, what does that have to do
> >> >>> with
> >> >>> animal cruelty?
> >> >>
> >> >> I don't follow your nonsequitur.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> > if you believe eating a cat is appalling, how does killing the cat
> >> > equate
> >> > to animal cruelty?
> >> >
> >> > if you believe eating a cat is not appalling, how does killing the cat
> >> > equate to animal cruelty?
> >> >
> >> > Killing an animal is not, per se, animal cruelty. Even a cat.
> >>
> >> Killing kitties or puppies is murder.
> >
> > I agree.
> >
> > But I realize that other cultures don't think of dogs or cats as family
> > pets.
>
> Cats and dogs have souls.

Since we have yet to establish that there is any such thing as a soul,
that statement is meaningless.


> Cattle and pigs do not. That's why it's wrong to
> hate cats and dogs. It's okay to hurt fish because they don't have any
> feelings.

How do you know that?

--
JD

"the lybian lier"

"Jeanne Douglas" > wrote in message
...
> In article >,
> "Zacharias Mulletstein" > wrote:
>
>> "Jeanne Douglas" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > In article >,
>> > "Zacharias Mulletstein" > wrote:
>> >
>> >> "Pico Rico" > wrote in message
>> >> ...
>> >> >
>> >> > "George M. Middius" > wrote in message
>> >> > ...
>> >> >> Pico Rico wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>> >> > You approve of people killing, cooking and eating cats?
>> >> >>> >> > You're
>> >> >>> >> > even
>> >> >>> >> > worse than I thought you were.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>> >> The only thing that was expected is your lack of knowledge
>> >> >>> >> about
>> >> >>> >> other
>> >> >>> >> cultures. You insult over 1.5 billion Chinese people.
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> > That's total BS. Only in a few towns do they eat cats. The vast
>> >> >>> > majority of Chinese are as appalled as Americans are.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>> appalled or not as to the eating of cats, what does that have to
>> >> >>> do
>> >> >>> with
>> >> >>> animal cruelty?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I don't follow your nonsequitur.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> > if you believe eating a cat is appalling, how does killing the cat
>> >> > equate
>> >> > to animal cruelty?
>> >> >
>> >> > if you believe eating a cat is not appalling, how does killing the
>> >> > cat
>> >> > equate to animal cruelty?
>> >> >
>> >> > Killing an animal is not, per se, animal cruelty. Even a cat.
>> >>
>> >> Killing kitties or puppies is murder.
>> >
>> > I agree.
>> >
>> > But I realize that other cultures don't think of dogs or cats as family
>> > pets.
>>
>> Cats and dogs have souls.
>
> Since we have yet to establish that there is any such thing as a soul,
> that statement is meaningless.
>
>
>> Cattle and pigs do not. That's why it's wrong to
>> hate cats and dogs. It's okay to hurt fish because they don't have any
>> feelings.
>
> How do you know that?

Kurt Cobain told me.

Zacharias Mulletstein wrote:

>>> Cattle and pigs do not. That's why it's wrong to
>>> hate cats and dogs. It's okay to hurt fish because they don't have
>>> any feelings.

>> How do you know that?

> Kurt Cobain told me.

Nemo told me the opposite

On Tuesday, September 4, 2012 3:02:46 AM UTC-5, Zacharias Mulletstein wrote:
> "Jeanne Douglas" > wrote in message
>
> ...
>
> > In article >,
>
> > "Zacharias Mulletstein" > wrote:
>
> >
>
> >> "Pico Rico" > wrote in message
>
> >> ...
>
> >> >
>
> >> > "George M. Middius" > wrote in message
>
> >> > ...
>
> >> >> Pico Rico wrote:
>
> >> >>
>
> >> >>> >> > You approve of people killing, cooking and eating cats? You're
>
> >> >>> >> > even
>
> >> >>> >> > worse than I thought you were.
>
> >> >>
>
> >> >>> >> The only thing that was expected is your lack of knowledge about
>
> >> >>> >> other
>
> >> >>> >> cultures. You insult over 1.5 billion Chinese people.
>
> >> >>> >
>
> >> >>> > That's total BS. Only in a few towns do they eat cats. The vast
>
> >> >>> > majority of Chinese are as appalled as Americans are.
>
> >> >>
>
> >> >>> appalled or not as to the eating of cats, what does that have to do
>
> >> >>> with
>
> >> >>> animal cruelty?
>
> >> >>
>
> >> >> I don't follow your nonsequitur.
>
> >> >>
>
> >> >>
>
> >> >
>
> >> > if you believe eating a cat is appalling, how does killing the cat
>
> >> > equate
>
> >> > to animal cruelty?
>
> >> >
>
> >> > if you believe eating a cat is not appalling, how does killing the cat
>
> >> > equate to animal cruelty?
>
> >> >
>
> >> > Killing an animal is not, per se, animal cruelty. Even a cat.
>
> >>
>
> >> Killing kitties or puppies is murder.
>
> >
>
> > I agree.
>
> >
>
> > But I realize that other cultures don't think of dogs or cats as family
>
> > pets.
>
>
>
> Cats and dogs have souls. Cattle and pigs do not. That's why it's wrong to
>
> hate cats and dogs. It's okay to hurt fish because they don't have any
>
> feelings.

Are you really a stupid person, or do you just play one on Usenet?


--Bryan

On Mon, 03 Sep 2012 23:13:50 -0500, Zacharias Mulletstein wrote:

>
>
> "George M. Middius" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Pico Rico wrote:
>>
>>> >> > That's total BS. Only in a few towns do they eat cats. The vast
>>> >> > majority of Chinese are as appalled as Americans are.
>>> >
>>> >> appalled or not as to the eating of cats, what does that have to do
>>> >> with
>>> >> animal cruelty?
>>> >
>>> > I don't follow your nonsequitur.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> if you believe eating a cat is appalling, how does killing the cat
>>> equate to
>>> animal cruelty?
>>
>> I don't know. Is that a trick question?
>>
>>> if you believe eating a cat is not appalling, how does killing the cat
>>> equate to animal cruelty?
>>>
>>> Killing an animal is not, per se, animal cruelty. Even a cat.
>>
>> I don't care about cruelty. You're asking the wrong person. Killing and
>> eating domesticated animals is barbaric.
>
> Cows, chickens, pigs, sheep, chickens, turkeys, etc are domesticated
> animals. You're saying it's barbaric to have a nice juicy steak or some
> good old fashioned Oklahoma BBQ?

People have a cultural aversion to eating animals that are not usually
considered as food sources: cats, dogs, rats, horses, etc. Other
animals, like cows, pigs and chickens, are eaten without a second
thought. Some animals, like deer, rabbits and squirrels, are more likely
to be eaten by people who hunt recreationally, as they are not usually
stocked in the local supermarket. Other animals, like snakes, insects,
maggots, etc, can be eaten in survival situations, though in some cultures
they would be considered a delicacy.

Like many areas of human activity, there isn't a whole lot of "rhyme of
reason" to what is considered acceptable fare.

--
MarkA
Keeper of Things Put There Only Just The Night Before
About eight o'clock

On Mon, 03 Sep 2012 23:13:50 -0500, Zacharias Mulletstein wrote:

>
>
> "George M. Middius" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Pico Rico wrote:
>>
>>> >> > That's total BS. Only in a few towns do they eat cats. The vast
>>> >> > majority of Chinese are as appalled as Americans are.
>>> >
>>> >> appalled or not as to the eating of cats, what does that have to do
>>> >> with
>>> >> animal cruelty?
>>> >
>>> > I don't follow your nonsequitur.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> if you believe eating a cat is appalling, how does killing the cat
>>> equate to
>>> animal cruelty?
>>
>> I don't know. Is that a trick question?
>>
>>> if you believe eating a cat is not appalling, how does killing the cat
>>> equate to animal cruelty?
>>>
>>> Killing an animal is not, per se, animal cruelty. Even a cat.
>>
>> I don't care about cruelty. You're asking the wrong person. Killing and
>> eating domesticated animals is barbaric.
>
> Cows, chickens, pigs, sheep, chickens, turkeys, etc are domesticated
> animals. You're saying it's barbaric to have a nice juicy steak or some
> good old fashioned Oklahoma BBQ?

People have a cultural aversion to eating animals that are not usually
considered as food sources: cats, dogs, rats, horses, etc. Other
animals, like cows, pigs and chickens, are eaten without a second
thought. Some animals, like deer, rabbits and squirrels, are more likely
to be eaten by people who hunt recreationally, as they are not usually
stocked in the local supermarket. Other animals, like snakes, insects,
maggots, etc, can be eaten in survival situations, though in some cultures
they would be considered a delicacy. Finally, cannibalism is practiced in
some cultures, though is usually considered taboo, except in survival
situations. Though not usually discussed, I have no doubt that some of
the survivors of the concentration camps in Germany during WWII survived
by cannibalism.

Like many areas of human activity, there isn't a whole lot of "rhyme of
reason" to what is considered acceptable fare.

--
MarkA
Keeper of Things Put There Only Just The Night Before
About eight o'clock

Zacharias Mulletstein wrote:

> > I don't care about cruelty. You're asking the wrong person. Killing
> > and eating domesticated animals is barbaric.
>
> Cows, chickens, pigs, sheep, chickens, turkeys, etc are domesticated
> animals. You're saying it's barbaric to have a nice juicy steak or some
> good old fashioned Oklahoma BBQ?
>

Gosh, you're smart. Please teach me all about life and death.