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I found the Sara Lee bread at Albertsons. They had a Honey Whole Wheat and
a Whole Wheat. Both contained not only milk but soy flour. The Whole Wheat
also had some sort of raisin in it. So that is three reasons why we can not
eat it. Raisins are not allowed on the South Beach diet.

If your Sara Lee bread there does not contain milk then they must use some
sort of different recipe for your area. But I kind doubt it.


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> On Tue, 4 Sep 2012 22:06:36 -0700, Julie Bove wrote:
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>> I found the Sara Lee bread at Albertsons. They had a Honey Whole Wheat
>> and
>> a Whole Wheat. Both contained not only milk but soy flour. The Whole
>> Wheat
>> also had some sort of raisin in it. So that is three reasons why we can
>> not
>> eat it. Raisins are not allowed on the South Beach diet.
>>
>> If your Sara Lee bread there does not contain milk then they must use
>> some
>> sort of different recipe for your area. But I kind doubt it.

>
> Raisins in wheat bread?


It wasn't actual raisins. And I can't remember exactly what it said. Maybe
raisin juice or concentrate or extract or something like that. I think they
somehow think that is better to use to feed the yeast than sugar.
>
> Obviously I'm talking about their "Classic 100% Whole Wheat Bread".
> Not some specialty crap with honey and ras....


This wasn't fancy and I am pretty damned sure it was the same stuff that you
claimed you had.
>
> Oh, just **** off. That's two useless pings from you today. You're
> determined to miserable so who am I to interfere with that? Stop
> pinging me with your bullshit. There's plenty of other people here to
> troll - no need to try and single me out.


I'm not miserable. You're the one that said the bread doesn't contain milk.
Every website I saw said that their bread had either milk or butter. And
the ones I saw in the store that were whole wheat did contain milk.


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Julie Bove wrote:

> > Raisins in wheat bread?

>
> It wasn't actual raisins.


Raisin juice concentrate, probably.

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> Julie Bove wrote:
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>> > Raisins in wheat bread?

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>> It wasn't actual raisins.

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> Raisin juice concentrate, probably.


That could be. I'm not going to write down the ingredients or buy the
bread. And I can't seem to find them listed online for sure. I see
conflicting information but I also see that they have changed their recipe
at some point.


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On Wed, 5 Sep 2012 00:29:31 -0500, Sqwertz >
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>On Tue, 4 Sep 2012 22:06:36 -0700, Julie Bove wrote:
>
>> I found the Sara Lee bread at Albertsons. They had a Honey Whole Wheat and
>> a Whole Wheat. Both contained not only milk but soy flour. The Whole Wheat
>> also had some sort of raisin in it. So that is three reasons why we can not
>> eat it. Raisins are not allowed on the South Beach diet.
>>
>> If your Sara Lee bread there does not contain milk then they must use some
>> sort of different recipe for your area. But I kind doubt it.

>
>Raisins in wheat bread?
>
>Obviously I'm talking about their "Classic 100% Whole Wheat Bread".
>Not some specialty crap with honey and ras....
>
>Oh, just **** off. That's two useless pings from you today. You're
>determined to miserable so who am I to interfere with that? Stop
>pinging me with your bullshit. There's plenty of other people here to
>troll - no need to try and single me out.
>
>-sw


Pureed raisins are a common commercial sweetener in many things. You
will not see bits of raisins in the food item. I see it most often in
rye and wheat breads.
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On Wed, 5 Sep 2012 00:10:00 -0700, "Julie Bove"
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>It wasn't actual raisins. And I can't remember exactly what it said. Maybe
>raisin juice or concentrate or extract or something like that. I think they
>somehow think that is better to use to feed the yeast than sugar.
>>

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yeast doesn't need sugar to feed. The yeast works on the broken parts
of the flour for food. I still hear people on the food network saying
you have to add sugar to feed the yeast. Bah! Get a clue people!
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> On Wed, 5 Sep 2012 00:10:00 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
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>>
>>It wasn't actual raisins. And I can't remember exactly what it said.
>>Maybe
>>raisin juice or concentrate or extract or something like that. I think
>>they
>>somehow think that is better to use to feed the yeast than sugar.
>>>

> snip
> yeast doesn't need sugar to feed. The yeast works on the broken parts
> of the flour for food. I still hear people on the food network saying
> you have to add sugar to feed the yeast. Bah! Get a clue people!
> Janet US


Well, no it doesn't but from what I have read about it, the yeast is
activated more quickly with sugar. Not that I'm an expert or anything. But
I have always added either sugar, honey or molasses to my bread when I made
it.


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Janet Bostwick wrote:

> yeast doesn't need sugar to feed. The yeast works on the broken parts
> of the flour for food. I still hear people on the food network saying
> you have to add sugar to feed the yeast. Bah! Get a clue people!


Your score is only 75. You're penalized for giving an incomplete
answer. The whole answer includes a reference to the timeframe. If you
have 4 hours or more, you don't need to add sugar or another source of
carbs. If your timeframe is 2 hours, you do need sugar.

I'd bet the reason they stress feeding sugar to the yeast is that
they're aiming at inexperienced cooks.


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On Wed, 05 Sep 2012 12:15:49 -0400, George M. Middius
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>Janet Bostwick wrote:
>
>> yeast doesn't need sugar to feed. The yeast works on the broken parts
>> of the flour for food. I still hear people on the food network saying
>> you have to add sugar to feed the yeast. Bah! Get a clue people!

>
>Your score is only 75. You're penalized for giving an incomplete
>answer. The whole answer includes a reference to the timeframe. If you
>have 4 hours or more, you don't need to add sugar or another source of
>carbs. If your timeframe is 2 hours, you do need sugar.
>
>I'd bet the reason they stress feeding sugar to the yeast is that
>they're aiming at inexperienced cooks.
>

The full answer is far more complex than even you indicate. I wasn't
intending to write a book for those who really couldn't care less, I
just wanted to clear up something that bugs me big time.
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Janet Bostwick wrote:
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> On Wed, 5 Sep 2012 00:10:00 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
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> >
> >It wasn't actual raisins. And I can't remember exactly what it said. Maybe
> >raisin juice or concentrate or extract or something like that. I think they
> >somehow think that is better to use to feed the yeast than sugar.
> >>

> snip
> yeast doesn't need sugar to feed. The yeast works on the broken parts
> of the flour for food. I still hear people on the food network saying
> you have to add sugar to feed the yeast. Bah! Get a clue people!
> Janet US


Yeast does feed on sugar. If you add plain sugar the reaction will happen
quicker. If not the yeast will eat the flour (carbohydrate) and still use
that for sugar. Just like our body does. It just takes a bit longer.

G.
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