Last half hour that I can eat until probably Friday and I haven't had
dinner and not even hungry. I hope this surgery works this time. I
also have to ask if the surgeon is going to be cutting into the scar
that was left from the first surgery if it's going to take longer to
heal. I'm scared and excited all at the same time because at this point
I can't walk without a walker.

Wish me luck and I'd love any prayers you have to spare if you believe
in such things.

On 9/5/2012 11:32 PM, Cheryl wrote:
> Last half hour that I can eat until probably Friday and I haven't had
> dinner and not even hungry. I hope this surgery works this time. I
> also have to ask if the surgeon is going to be cutting into the scar
> that was left from the first surgery if it's going to take longer to
> heal. I'm scared and excited all at the same time because at this point
> I can't walk without a walker.
>
> Wish me luck and I'd love any prayers you have to spare if you believe
> in such things.

Oh, I'm glad you're getting this taken care of fast. Fingers crossed
and I will be sending you good vibes all day.

nancy

On Wed, 05 Sep 2012 23:32:57 -0400, Cheryl >
wrote:

>Last half hour that I can eat until probably Friday and I haven't had
>dinner and not even hungry. I hope this surgery works this time. I
>also have to ask if the surgeon is going to be cutting into the scar
>that was left from the first surgery if it's going to take longer to
>heal. I'm scared and excited all at the same time because at this point
>I can't walk without a walker.
>
>Wish me luck and I'd love any prayers you have to spare if you believe
>in such things.

I'm wishing you sucess. And afterwards consider water aerobics, the
YMCA has excellent instructors who lead classes for those with all
sorts of physical problems.

On Wed, 05 Sep 2012 23:32:57 -0400, Cheryl >
wrote:

> Last half hour that I can eat until probably Friday and I haven't had
> dinner and not even hungry. I hope this surgery works this time. I
> also have to ask if the surgeon is going to be cutting into the scar
> that was left from the first surgery if it's going to take longer to
> heal. I'm scared and excited all at the same time because at this point
> I can't walk without a walker.
>
> Wish me luck and I'd love any prayers you have to spare if you believe
> in such things.

Good luck, Cheryl.... I'm crossing my fingers for you!

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

On 9/5/2012 9:50 PM, Nancy Young wrote:
> On 9/5/2012 11:32 PM, Cheryl wrote:

>>
>> Wish me luck and I'd love any prayers you have to spare if you believe
>> in such things.
>
> Oh, I'm glad you're getting this taken care of fast. Fingers crossed
> and I will be sending you good vibes all day.
>
> nancy
>


Exactly what Nancy said.

gloria p

On Wed, 05 Sep 2012 23:32:57 -0400, Cheryl >
wrote:

>Last half hour that I can eat until probably Friday and I haven't had
>dinner and not even hungry. I hope this surgery works this time. I
>also have to ask if the surgeon is going to be cutting into the scar
>that was left from the first surgery if it's going to take longer to
>heal. I'm scared and excited all at the same time because at this point
>I can't walk without a walker.
>
>Wish me luck and I'd love any prayers you have to spare if you believe
>in such things.

Sending prayers for a successful operation and quick and easy
recovery.

koko
--
Food is our common ground, a universal experience
James Beard

www.kokoscornerblog.com

Natural Watkins Spices
www.apinchofspices.com

On 2012-09-06, Cheryl > wrote:

> Wish me luck and I'd love any prayers you have to spare if you believe
> in such things.

Our prayers go with you, Cheryl.

nb

--
Definition of objectivism:
"Eff you! I got mine."
http://www.nongmoproject.org/

On Sep 5, 11:32*pm, Cheryl > wrote:
> Last half hour that I can eat until probably Friday and I haven't had
> dinner and not even hungry. *I hope this surgery works this time. *I
> also have to ask if the surgeon is going to be cutting into the scar
> that was left from the first surgery if it's going to take longer to
> heal. *I'm scared and excited all at the same time because at this point
> I can't walk without a walker.
>
> Wish me luck and I'd love any prayers you have to spare if you believe
> in such things.

Late with my reply, but my wishes for healing are sincere. Best to
you.

On Sep 5, 8:32*pm, Cheryl > wrote:
> Last half hour that I can eat until probably Friday and I haven't had
> dinner and not even hungry. *I hope this surgery works this time. *I
> also have to ask if the surgeon is going to be cutting into the scar
> that was left from the first surgery if it's going to take longer to
> heal. *I'm scared and excited all at the same time because at this point
> I can't walk without a walker.
>
> Wish me luck and I'd love any prayers you have to spare if you believe
> in such things.

Don't fear. Keep that excitement, the excitement will promote a good
outcome, the fear will prevent one.
If you feel any fear, take deep breaths, relax your shoulders and
body, close your eyes and visualize the outcome you desire. Know in
your heart that you are powerful enough to bring that outcome about.

I'm keeping good thoughts coming your way.
You will do splendidly, I know it.

Sqwertz wrote:
>
> I have had a 1.25" incision 6 times in the same spot. I just tell
> them to cut along the dotted line. It all heals just the same. iT
> probably heals slightly faster if it hasn't finished healing from the
> previous incision.

None of my business but I am curious. WTH was that for? Did they screw up
the first 5 times? arrhhh!

G.

On Thu, 06 Sep 2012 17:00:57 -0400, Gary > wrote:

>Sqwertz wrote:
>>
>> I have had a 1.25" incision 6 times in the same spot. I just tell
>> them to cut along the dotted line. It all heals just the same. iT
>> probably heals slightly faster if it hasn't finished healing from the
>> previous incision.
>
>None of my business but I am curious. WTH was that for? Did they screw up
>the first 5 times? arrhhh!

Attempted a frontal lobotomy but couldn't find his brain...btw, the
scars are on his ass. LOL

On Sep 6, 2:10*pm, Brooklyn1 <Gravesend1> wrote:
> On Thu, 06 Sep 2012 17:00:57 -0400, Gary > wrote:
> >Sqwertz wrote:
>
> >> I have had a 1.25" incision 6 times in the same spot. *I just tell
> >> them to cut along the dotted line. *It all heals just the same. *iT
> >> probably heals slightly faster if it hasn't finished healing from the
> >> previous incision.
>
> >None of my business but I am curious. *WTH was that for? *Did they screw up
> >the first 5 times? * arrhhh!
>
> Attempted a frontal lobotomy but couldn't find his brain...btw, the
> scars are on his ass. LOL

Ok, that was funny!

merryb wrote:
>
> On Sep 6, 2:10 pm, Brooklyn1 <Gravesend1> wrote:
> > On Thu, 06 Sep 2012 17:00:57 -0400, Gary > wrote:
> > >Sqwertz wrote:
> >
> > >> I have had a 1.25" incision 6 times in the same spot. I just tell
> > >> them to cut along the dotted line. It all heals just the same. iT
> > >> probably heals slightly faster if it hasn't finished healing from the
> > >> previous incision.
> >
> > >None of my business but I am curious. WTH was that for? Did they screw up
> > >the first 5 times? arrhhh!
> >
> > Attempted a frontal lobotomy but couldn't find his brain...btw, the
> > scars are on his ass. LOL
>
> Ok, that was funny!

Yes...I just read that and laughed too. Sheldon is a funny guy.

G.

On 9/5/2012 10:50 PM, Nancy Young wrote:

> Oh, I'm glad you're getting this taken care of fast. Fingers crossed
> and I will be sending you good vibes all day.
>
> nancy

What she said.

Becca

We will be holding you up in our prayers, Cheryl, and close in our hearts.
Polly

On 9/5/2012 11:32 PM, Cheryl wrote:
> Last half hour that I can eat until probably Friday and I haven't had
> dinner and not even hungry. I hope this surgery works this time. I
> also have to ask if the surgeon is going to be cutting into the scar
> that was left from the first surgery if it's going to take longer to
> heal. I'm scared and excited all at the same time because at this point
> I can't walk without a walker.
>
> Wish me luck and I'd love any prayers you have to spare if you believe
> in such things.

Ths surgery didn't seem to work at all. The affected numb/painful foot
that didn't have thi problem before surgerey is still numb/painful.
Whenever I call the surgeons office they go into some discussion about
additional pain meds will have to be handled through a pain management
specialist even if i just ask how long my foot/leg will still be
unusable. i haven't even talked to the surgeon since just before
release on friday. there is no doubt this is neurological in nature
since it wasn;t like ths before the first surgery. sorry i cant type
well laying in bed which ive been doig since i got home. surgeon is
suppoosed to call me tomorrow and i'm supposed to have an at home PT
assessnent too. 2 surgeries and i don't feel any improvement. am i
looking for something too soon?

"Cheryl" > wrote in message
...
> On 9/5/2012 11:32 PM, Cheryl wrote:
>> Last half hour that I can eat until probably Friday and I haven't had
>> dinner and not even hungry. I hope this surgery works this time. I
>> also have to ask if the surgeon is going to be cutting into the scar
>> that was left from the first surgery if it's going to take longer to
>> heal. I'm scared and excited all at the same time because at this point
>> I can't walk without a walker.
>>
>> Wish me luck and I'd love any prayers you have to spare if you believe
>> in such things.
>
> Ths surgery didn't seem to work at all. The affected numb/painful foot
> that didn't have thi problem before surgerey is still numb/painful.
> Whenever I call the surgeons office they go into some discussion about
> additional pain meds will have to be handled through a pain management
> specialist even if i just ask how long my foot/leg will still be unusable.
> i haven't even talked to the surgeon since just before release on friday.
> there is no doubt this is neurological in nature since it wasn;t like ths
> before the first surgery. sorry i cant type well laying in bed which ive
> been doig since i got home. surgeon is suppoosed to call me tomorrow and
> i'm supposed to have an at home PT assessnent too. 2 surgeries and i
> don't feel any improvement. am i looking for something too soon?

We love you and we ache for you and we really hope that these
problems can resolve. This may be too soon; we hope that more
time will bring improvement. Best wishes during the evaluation
and the agonies of waiting. Thank you for your message, and
we would like to receive many more, with increasingly better news.

pavane

On Mon, 10 Sep 2012 22:52:38 -0400, Cheryl >
wrote:

> On 9/5/2012 11:32 PM, Cheryl wrote:
> > Last half hour that I can eat until probably Friday and I haven't had
> > dinner and not even hungry. I hope this surgery works this time. I
> > also have to ask if the surgeon is going to be cutting into the scar
> > that was left from the first surgery if it's going to take longer to
> > heal. I'm scared and excited all at the same time because at this point
> > I can't walk without a walker.
> >
> > Wish me luck and I'd love any prayers you have to spare if you believe
> > in such things.
>
> Ths surgery didn't seem to work at all. The affected numb/painful foot
> that didn't have thi problem before surgerey is still numb/painful.
> Whenever I call the surgeons office they go into some discussion about
> additional pain meds will have to be handled through a pain management
> specialist even if i just ask how long my foot/leg will still be
> unusable. i haven't even talked to the surgeon since just before
> release on friday. there is no doubt this is neurological in nature
> since it wasn;t like ths before the first surgery. sorry i cant type
> well laying in bed which ive been doig since i got home. surgeon is
> suppoosed to call me tomorrow and i'm supposed to have an at home PT
> assessnent too. 2 surgeries and i don't feel any improvement. am i
> looking for something too soon?

I don't know. Dave Smith's rib bones were cut when he had his heart
surgery and he was sore (I don't know the level of pain) for months
afterward.

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

On Mon, 10 Sep 2012 23:50:51 -0400, "pavane" >
wrote:

>
>"Cheryl" > wrote in message
...
>> On 9/5/2012 11:32 PM, Cheryl wrote:
>>> Last half hour that I can eat until probably Friday and I haven't had
>>> dinner and not even hungry. I hope this surgery works this time. I
>>> also have to ask if the surgeon is going to be cutting into the scar
>>> that was left from the first surgery if it's going to take longer to
>>> heal. I'm scared and excited all at the same time because at this point
>>> I can't walk without a walker.
>>>
>>> Wish me luck and I'd love any prayers you have to spare if you believe
>>> in such things.
>>
>> Ths surgery didn't seem to work at all. The affected numb/painful foot
>> that didn't have thi problem before surgerey is still numb/painful.
>> Whenever I call the surgeons office they go into some discussion about
>> additional pain meds will have to be handled through a pain management
>> specialist even if i just ask how long my foot/leg will still be unusable.
>> i haven't even talked to the surgeon since just before release on friday.
>> there is no doubt this is neurological in nature since it wasn;t like ths
>> before the first surgery. sorry i cant type well laying in bed which ive
>> been doig since i got home. surgeon is suppoosed to call me tomorrow and
>> i'm supposed to have an at home PT assessnent too. 2 surgeries and i
>> don't feel any improvement. am i looking for something too soon?
>
>We love you and we ache for you and we really hope that these
>problems can resolve. This may be too soon; we hope that more
>time will bring improvement. Best wishes during the evaluation
>and the agonies of waiting. Thank you for your message, and
>we would like to receive many more, with increasingly better news.
>
>pavane
>
agree with pavane..
aloha,
Cea

On Mon, 10 Sep 2012 22:52:38 -0400, Cheryl >
wrote:

>On 9/5/2012 11:32 PM, Cheryl wrote:
>> Last half hour that I can eat until probably Friday and I haven't had
>> dinner and not even hungry. I hope this surgery works this time. I
>> also have to ask if the surgeon is going to be cutting into the scar
>> that was left from the first surgery if it's going to take longer to
>> heal. I'm scared and excited all at the same time because at this point
>> I can't walk without a walker.
>>
>> Wish me luck and I'd love any prayers you have to spare if you believe
>> in such things.
>
>Ths surgery didn't seem to work at all. The affected numb/painful foot
>that didn't have thi problem before surgerey is still numb/painful.
>Whenever I call the surgeons office they go into some discussion about
>additional pain meds will have to be handled through a pain management
>specialist even if i just ask how long my foot/leg will still be
>unusable. i haven't even talked to the surgeon since just before
>release on friday. there is no doubt this is neurological in nature
>since it wasn;t like ths before the first surgery. sorry i cant type
>well laying in bed which ive been doig since i got home. surgeon is
>suppoosed to call me tomorrow and i'm supposed to have an at home PT
>assessnent too. 2 surgeries and i don't feel any improvement. am i
>looking for something too soon?

Way too many people with back problems want instant results so opt for
surgery, a big mistake. I'm very glad I heeded a second opinion and
cancelled my back surgery. I've since been told by several doctors
(not surgeons) that once one has back surgery they will need many
surgeries until they are a cripple in a wheelchair. I think you ought
to try the injections again, but a different doctor. The first place
where I had injections I got zero results, so I went to a different
group of doctors and it's now been five years and I'm pain free...
there were three doctors, each time a different doctor administered
the shot... I suppose they each used a different cocktail and a
different technique, all I know is that it worked. After a few months
I returned hundreds of pain pills to the pharmacy to dispose of. Good
luck.

On 2012-09-11, Brooklyn1 <Gravesend1> wrote:

> the shot... I suppose they each used a different cocktail and a
> different technique, all I know is that it worked. After a few months
> I returned hundreds of pain pills to the pharmacy to dispose of. Good
> luck.

Don't they have a portable belt-pak narcotic injector, like those ya
see on hosp tv progs? Sort of an epidural beeper thingie?

nb

--
Definition of objectivism:
"Eff you! I got mine."
http://www.nongmoproject.org/

On 9/10/2012 9:52 PM, Cheryl wrote:
> On 9/5/2012 11:32 PM, Cheryl wrote:
>> Last half hour that I can eat until probably Friday and I haven't had
>> dinner and not even hungry. I hope this surgery works this time. I
>> also have to ask if the surgeon is going to be cutting into the scar
>> that was left from the first surgery if it's going to take longer to
>> heal. I'm scared and excited all at the same time because at this point
>> I can't walk without a walker.
>>
>> Wish me luck and I'd love any prayers you have to spare if you believe
>> in such things.
>
> Ths surgery didn't seem to work at all. The affected numb/painful foot
> that didn't have thi problem before surgerey is still numb/painful.
> Whenever I call the surgeons office they go into some discussion about
> additional pain meds will have to be handled through a pain management
> specialist even if i just ask how long my foot/leg will still be
> unusable. i haven't even talked to the surgeon since just before
> release on friday. there is no doubt this is neurological in nature
> since it wasn;t like ths before the first surgery. sorry i cant type
> well laying in bed which ive been doig since i got home. surgeon is
> suppoosed to call me tomorrow and i'm supposed to have an at home PT
> assessnent too. 2 surgeries and i don't feel any improvement. am i
> looking for something too soon?
>

I'm so sorry that the surgery did not work, Cheryl. Maybe you can get a
referral to a neurologist after the evaluation.

--
Janet Wilder
Way-the-heck-south Texas
Spelling doesn't count. Cooking does.

On 2012-09-11, Cheryl > wrote:

> Ths surgery didn't seem to work at all.

I'm sorry to hear it, Cheryl. I didn't realize the half kidding reply
to shelly's post was for this. OTOH, perhaps that's an option. I've
heard of electronic triggering devices that send a painkiller or
electric shock to the afflicted area for back pain control.

This is one instance where my big fat yap has no say, me having no
experience in this area. I hope you get the problem resolved, but I
don't know if I'd go back under the knife, again. If ya do, threaten
the doc with death if he fails. Sort of an incentive program.

nb


--
Definition of objectivism:
"Eff you! I got mine."
http://www.nongmoproject.org/

On Sep 10, 7:52*pm, Cheryl > wrote:
> On 9/5/2012 11:32 PM, Cheryl wrote:
>
> > Last half hour that I can eat until probably Friday and I haven't had
> > dinner and not even hungry. *I hope this surgery works this time. *I
> > also have to ask if the surgeon is going to be cutting into the scar
> > that was left from the first surgery if it's going to take longer to
> > heal. *I'm scared and excited all at the same time because at this point
> > I can't walk without a walker.
>
> > Wish me luck and I'd love any prayers you have to spare if you believe
> > in such things.
>
> Ths surgery didn't seem to work at all. *The affected numb/painful foot
> that didn't have thi problem before surgerey is still numb/painful.
> Whenever I call the surgeons office they go into some discussion about
> additional pain meds will have to be handled through a pain management
> specialist even if i just ask how long my foot/leg will still be
> unusable. *i haven't even talked to the surgeon since just before
> release on friday. *there is no doubt this is neurological in nature
> since it wasn;t like ths before the first surgery. *sorry i cant type
> well laying in bed which ive been doig since i got home. *surgeon is
> suppoosed to call me tomorrow and i'm supposed to have an at home PT
> assessnent too. *2 surgeries and i don't feel any improvement. *am i
> looking for something too soon?

I think you still have a lot of healing to do- you just had this done!
It might take a few months to be able to tell, but it's waaaay too
soon to know.

On 9/10/2012 11:50 PM, pavane wrote:

> "Cheryl" > wrote in message
> ...

>> Ths surgery didn't seem to work at all. The affected numb/painful
>> foot that didn't have thi problem before surgerey is still
>> numb/painful. Whenever I call the surgeons office they go into some
>> discussion about additional pain meds will have to be handled
>> through a pain management specialist even if i just ask how long my
>> foot/leg will still be unusable. i haven't even talked to the
>> surgeon since just before release on friday. there is no doubt this
>> is neurological in nature since it wasn;t like ths before the first
>> surgery. sorry i cant type well laying in bed which ive been doig
>> since i got home. surgeon is suppoosed to call me tomorrow and i'm
>> supposed to have an at home PT assessnent too. 2 surgeries and i
>> don't feel any improvement. am i looking for something too soon?
>
> We love you and we ache for you and we really hope that these
> problems can resolve. This may be too soon; we hope that more time
> will bring improvement. Best wishes during the evaluation and the
> agonies of waiting. Thank you for your message, and we would like to
> receive many more, with increasingly better news.
>
Thank you for your kind words! Means a lot to me. I didn't get
much encouragement from my surgeon but the PT assessment was very
informative. She said the nerves are damaged and likely will heal with
time. I don't know exactly what it all means but swelling is still
causing the numbness in my leg and foot but I can actually feel
improvement! Only 2 spots with pain, the rest just pins and needles.
Before surgery 2 it was just all pain. She said I was walking ok, but
if any of the nerve damage is permanent (small chance of that) I will
have to relearn some things, like walking. This is worst case scenario
so I will just go with the flow and do the PT as directed and see where
it goes.

Thanks again.

On Sep 12, 2:10*pm, Cheryl > wrote:
> On 9/10/2012 11:50 PM, pavane wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > "Cheryl" > wrote in message
> ...
> >> Ths surgery didn't seem to work at all. *The affected numb/painful
> >> foot that didn't have thi problem before surgerey is still
> >> numb/painful. Whenever I call the surgeons office they go into some
> >> discussion about additional pain meds will have to be handled
> >> through a pain management specialist even if i just ask how long my
> >> foot/leg will still be unusable. i haven't even talked to the
> >> surgeon since just before release on friday. there is no doubt this
> >> is neurological in nature since it wasn;t like ths before the first
> >> surgery. *sorry i cant type well laying in bed which ive been doig
> >> since i got home. *surgeon is suppoosed to call me tomorrow and i'm
> >> supposed to have an at home PT assessnent too. *2 surgeries and i
> >> don't feel any improvement. *am i looking for something too soon?
>
> > We love you and we ache for you and we really hope that these
> > problems can resolve. This may be too soon; we hope that more time
> > will bring improvement. Best wishes during the evaluation and the
> > agonies of waiting. Thank you for your message, and we would like to
> > receive many more, with increasingly better news.
>
> Thank you for your kind words! *Means a lot to me. * *I didn't get
> much encouragement from my surgeon but the PT assessment was very
> informative. *She said the nerves are damaged and likely will heal with
> time. *I don't know exactly what it all means but swelling is still
> causing the numbness in my leg and foot but I can actually feel
> improvement! *Only 2 spots with pain, the rest just pins and needles.
> Before surgery 2 it was just all pain. *She said I was walking ok, but
> if any of the nerve damage is permanent (small chance of that) I will
> have to relearn some things, like walking. *This is worst case scenario
> so I will just go with the flow and do the PT as directed and see where
> it goes.
>
> Thanks again.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

I'm happy to hear that you are getting pins and needles and only 2
spots with actual pain. That is VERY encouraging. Just take it
easy
and don't try to will yourself well all at once. The body is a
miraculous thing, it will heal if we let it go at it's own pace and
treat it gently.

On 9/11/2012 11:47 AM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> Way too many people with back problems want instant results so opt for
> surgery, a big mistake. I'm very glad I heeded a second opinion and
> cancelled my back surgery. I've since been told by several doctors
> (not surgeons) that once one has back surgery they will need many
> surgeries until they are a cripple in a wheelchair. I think you ought
> to try the injections again, but a different doctor. The first place
> where I had injections I got zero results, so I went to a different
> group of doctors and it's now been five years and I'm pain free...
> there were three doctors, each time a different doctor administered
> the shot... I suppose they each used a different cocktail and a
> different technique, all I know is that it worked. After a few months
> I returned hundreds of pain pills to the pharmacy to dispose of. Good
> luck.

I understand what you're saying and wish it would have worked for me,
and glad you have relief! Interesting about the different results from
different doctors...

On 9/11/2012 4:11 PM, Janet Wilder wrote:
> On 9/10/2012 9:52 PM, Cheryl wrote:
>> On 9/5/2012 11:32 PM, Cheryl wrote:
>>> Last half hour that I can eat until probably Friday and I haven't had
>>> dinner and not even hungry. I hope this surgery works this time. I
>>> also have to ask if the surgeon is going to be cutting into the scar
>>> that was left from the first surgery if it's going to take longer to
>>> heal. I'm scared and excited all at the same time because at this point
>>> I can't walk without a walker.
>>>
>>> Wish me luck and I'd love any prayers you have to spare if you believe
>>> in such things.
>>
>> Ths surgery didn't seem to work at all. The affected numb/painful foot
>> that didn't have thi problem before surgerey is still numb/painful.
>> Whenever I call the surgeons office they go into some discussion about
>> additional pain meds will have to be handled through a pain management
>> specialist even if i just ask how long my foot/leg will still be
>> unusable. i haven't even talked to the surgeon since just before
>> release on friday. there is no doubt this is neurological in nature
>> since it wasn;t like ths before the first surgery. sorry i cant type
>> well laying in bed which ive been doig since i got home. surgeon is
>> suppoosed to call me tomorrow and i'm supposed to have an at home PT
>> assessnent too. 2 surgeries and i don't feel any improvement. am i
>> looking for something too soon?
>>
>
> I'm so sorry that the surgery did not work, Cheryl. Maybe you can get a
> referral to a neurologist after the evaluation.
>
I think I'm feeling better. I'm just looking for something too soon.

On 9/11/2012 5:34 PM, merryb wrote:
> On Sep 10, 7:52 pm, Cheryl > wrote:
>> On 9/5/2012 11:32 PM, Cheryl wrote:
>>
>>> Last half hour that I can eat until probably Friday and I haven't had
>>> dinner and not even hungry. I hope this surgery works this time. I
>>> also have to ask if the surgeon is going to be cutting into the scar
>>> that was left from the first surgery if it's going to take longer to
>>> heal. I'm scared and excited all at the same time because at this point
>>> I can't walk without a walker.
>>
>>> Wish me luck and I'd love any prayers you have to spare if you believe
>>> in such things.
>>
>> Ths surgery didn't seem to work at all. The affected numb/painful foot
>> that didn't have thi problem before surgerey is still numb/painful.
>> Whenever I call the surgeons office they go into some discussion about
>> additional pain meds will have to be handled through a pain management
>> specialist even if i just ask how long my foot/leg will still be
>> unusable. i haven't even talked to the surgeon since just before
>> release on friday. there is no doubt this is neurological in nature
>> since it wasn;t like ths before the first surgery. sorry i cant type
>> well laying in bed which ive been doig since i got home. surgeon is
>> suppoosed to call me tomorrow and i'm supposed to have an at home PT
>> assessnent too. 2 surgeries and i don't feel any improvement. am i
>> looking for something too soon?
>
> I think you still have a lot of healing to do- you just had this done!
> It might take a few months to be able to tell, but it's waaaay too
> soon to know.
>
You're right of course. Now I know the nerves are what need healing
most of all now that my spine is straight from the fusion.

On 9/11/2012 4:38 PM, notbob wrote:
> On 2012-09-11, Cheryl > wrote:
>
>> Ths surgery didn't seem to work at all.
>
> I'm sorry to hear it, Cheryl. I didn't realize the half kidding reply
> to shelly's post was for this. OTOH, perhaps that's an option. I've
> heard of electronic triggering devices that send a painkiller or
> electric shock to the afflicted area for back pain control.
>
> This is one instance where my big fat yap has no say, me having no
> experience in this area. I hope you get the problem resolved, but I
> don't know if I'd go back under the knife, again. If ya do, threaten
> the doc with death if he fails. Sort of an incentive program.
>

No worries! I thought it was funny! Second surgery done, and I now
feel like this one helped more than the first one. CT scan after
surgery showed improvement in the bunched up nerve areas.

I just need to give it time and PT.

On 9/10/2012 9:52 PM, Cheryl wrote:

> suppoosed to call me tomorrow and i'm supposed to have an at home PT
> assessnent too. 2 surgeries and i don't feel any improvement. am i
> looking for something too soon?


Cheryl, I feel terrible about this, you have been through so much
already. It is too bad the surgeon is so non communicative.

Becca

On Sep 12, 2:20*pm, Cheryl > wrote:
> On 9/11/2012 4:38 PM, notbob wrote:
>
> > On 2012-09-11, Cheryl > wrote:
>
> >> Ths surgery didn't seem to work at all.
>
> > I'm sorry to hear it, Cheryl. *I didn't realize the half kidding reply
> > to shelly's post was for this. *OTOH, perhaps that's an option. *I've
> > heard of electronic triggering devices that send a painkiller or
> > electric shock to the afflicted area for back pain control.
>
> > This is one instance where my big fat yap has no say, me having no
> > experience in this area. *I hope you get the problem resolved, but I
> > don't know if I'd go back under the knife, again. *If ya do, threaten
> > the doc with death if he fails. *Sort of an incentive program. *
>
> No worries! *I thought it was funny! *Second surgery done, and I now
> feel like this one helped more than the first one. *CT scan after
> surgery showed improvement in the bunched up nerve areas.
>
> I just need to give it time and PT. *

Exactly- surgery isn't for wimps! I'm sure you'll feel better every
day.

On 9/12/2012 5:16 PM, Cheryl wrote:
> On 9/11/2012 11:47 AM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>> Way too many people with back problems want instant results so opt for
>> surgery, a big mistake. I'm very glad I heeded a second opinion and
>> cancelled my back surgery. I've since been told by several doctors
>> (not surgeons) that once one has back surgery they will need many
>> surgeries until they are a cripple in a wheelchair. I think you ought
>> to try the injections again, but a different doctor. The first place
>> where I had injections I got zero results, so I went to a different
>> group of doctors and it's now been five years and I'm pain free...
>> there were three doctors, each time a different doctor administered
>> the shot... I suppose they each used a different cocktail and a
>> different technique, all I know is that it worked. After a few months
>> I returned hundreds of pain pills to the pharmacy to dispose of. Good
>> luck.
>
> I understand what you're saying and wish it would have worked for me,
> and glad you have relief! Interesting about the different results from
> different doctors...

Sheldon, BTW, this was one of the diagnosis that caused the need for
surgery. Since one vertebrae slipped under another one, and PT wasn't
working to move it back into place, fusion was the only option other
than just numbing the pain with sterioids. And yes, permanent nerve
damage can be a result, and possible future surgeries, but at 49 we saw
no reason not to do the surgery so I can at least have some quality of
life. I literally wasn't able to walk but for short distances.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmedhealth/PMH0002240/

On 9/12/2012 5:20 PM, Cheryl wrote:

> No worries! I thought it was funny! Second surgery done, and I now
> feel like this one helped more than the first one. CT scan after
> surgery showed improvement in the bunched up nerve areas.
>
> I just need to give it time and PT.

I'm really glad to hear that, I hated to see you didn't
have relief again after another surgery. Bad enough I'm sure
you're sick of being laid up. I hope you're up and about soon.

nancy

On Wed, 12 Sep 2012 17:10:03 -0400, Cheryl >
wrote:

> Thank you for your kind words! Means a lot to me. I didn't get
> much encouragement from my surgeon but the PT assessment was very
> informative. She said the nerves are damaged and likely will heal with
> time. I don't know exactly what it all means but swelling is still
> causing the numbness in my leg and foot but I can actually feel
> improvement! Only 2 spots with pain, the rest just pins and needles.
> Before surgery 2 it was just all pain. She said I was walking ok, but
> if any of the nerve damage is permanent (small chance of that) I will
> have to relearn some things, like walking. This is worst case scenario
> so I will just go with the flow and do the PT as directed and see where
> it goes.

Glad to hear all systems are go and more importantly that you're in
less pain. Keeping my fingers crossed for you!

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

On Wed, 12 Sep 2012 18:50:05 -0400, Cheryl >
wrote:

>On 9/12/2012 5:16 PM, Cheryl wrote:
>> On 9/11/2012 11:47 AM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>> Way too many people with back problems want instant results so opt for
>>> surgery, a big mistake. I'm very glad I heeded a second opinion and
>>> cancelled my back surgery. I've since been told by several doctors
>>> (not surgeons) that once one has back surgery they will need many
>>> surgeries until they are a cripple in a wheelchair. I think you ought
>>> to try the injections again, but a different doctor. The first place
>>> where I had injections I got zero results, so I went to a different
>>> group of doctors and it's now been five years and I'm pain free...
>>> there were three doctors, each time a different doctor administered
>>> the shot... I suppose they each used a different cocktail and a
>>> different technique, all I know is that it worked. After a few months
>>> I returned hundreds of pain pills to the pharmacy to dispose of. Good
>>> luck.
>>
>> I understand what you're saying and wish it would have worked for me,
>> and glad you have relief! Interesting about the different results from
>> different doctors...
>
>Sheldon, BTW, this was one of the diagnosis that caused the need for
>surgery. Since one vertebrae slipped under another one, and PT wasn't
>working to move it back into place, fusion was the only option other
>than just numbing the pain with sterioids. And yes, permanent nerve
>damage can be a result, and possible future surgeries, but at 49 we saw
>no reason not to do the surgery so I can at least have some quality of
>life. I literally wasn't able to walk but for short distances.
>
>http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmedhealth/PMH0002240/

It does indicate that surgery increases the risk of needing more
surgeries and with no guarantees. The doctors I went to also perform
surgery but they insisted I go other routes first with surgery as a
last resort. I don't know where you live but this is where I was
treated, it's quite a facility, it may be a possibility for you.
http://www.capitalregionspecialsurge.../neurosurgery/
At 49 you're a young chick, much too young to give up... I have shoes
in my closet older than you, and their tongues are still supple! LOL

On 9/12/2012 6:53 PM, Nancy Young wrote:
> On 9/12/2012 5:20 PM, Cheryl wrote:
>
>> No worries! I thought it was funny! Second surgery done, and I now
>> feel like this one helped more than the first one. CT scan after
>> surgery showed improvement in the bunched up nerve areas.
>>
>> I just need to give it time and PT.
>
> I'm really glad to hear that, I hated to see you didn't
> have relief again after another surgery. Bad enough I'm sure
> you're sick of being laid up. I hope you're up and about soon.

Thanks, Nancy. I'm anxious to get back to work. I don't like them
being able to do without me! LOL Though I talked to my boss and he
gave me a lot of assignments, mostly research and writing about some new
technology we're moving to, and which he wants to understand better, so
that's work I can easily do being laid up. I'm glad they've been so
understanding.

On 9/12/2012 7:01 PM, sf wrote:
> On Wed, 12 Sep 2012 17:10:03 -0400, Cheryl >
> wrote:
>
>> Thank you for your kind words! Means a lot to me. I didn't get
>> much encouragement from my surgeon but the PT assessment was very
>> informative. She said the nerves are damaged and likely will heal with
>> time. I don't know exactly what it all means but swelling is still
>> causing the numbness in my leg and foot but I can actually feel
>> improvement! Only 2 spots with pain, the rest just pins and needles.
>> Before surgery 2 it was just all pain. She said I was walking ok, but
>> if any of the nerve damage is permanent (small chance of that) I will
>> have to relearn some things, like walking. This is worst case scenario
>> so I will just go with the flow and do the PT as directed and see where
>> it goes.
>
> Glad to hear all systems are go and more importantly that you're in
> less pain. Keeping my fingers crossed for you!
>
Thanks! Slow going but I'm encouraged now and that helps. Just like
Imstillmags wrote about.

On 9/12/2012 4:10 PM, Cheryl wrote:

> Thank you for your kind words! Means a lot to me. I didn't get
> much encouragement from my surgeon but the PT assessment was very
> informative. She said the nerves are damaged and likely will heal with
> time. I don't know exactly what it all means but swelling is still
> causing the numbness in my leg and foot but I can actually feel
> improvement! Only 2 spots with pain, the rest just pins and needles.
> Before surgery 2 it was just all pain. She said I was walking ok, but
> if any of the nerve damage is permanent (small chance of that) I will
> have to relearn some things, like walking. This is worst case scenario
> so I will just go with the flow and do the PT as directed and see where
> it goes.


This is sounding much better. You may be ready to do sprints in Rio in
2017.

Becca <----keeping positive thoughts for Cheryl.

Cheryl wrote:
> On 9/5/2012 11:32 PM, Cheryl wrote:
>> Last half hour that I can eat until probably Friday and I haven't had
>> dinner and not even hungry. I hope this surgery works this time. I
>> also have to ask if the surgeon is going to be cutting into the scar
>> that was left from the first surgery if it's going to take longer to
>> heal. I'm scared and excited all at the same time because at this point
>> I can't walk without a walker.
>>
>> Wish me luck and I'd love any prayers you have to spare if you believe
>> in such things.
>
> Ths surgery didn't seem to work at all. The affected numb/painful foot
> that didn't have thi problem before surgerey is still numb/painful.
> Whenever I call the surgeons office they go into some discussion about
> additional pain meds will have to be handled through a pain management
> specialist even if i just ask how long my foot/leg will still be
> unusable. i haven't even talked to the surgeon since just before
> release on friday. there is no doubt this is neurological in nature
> since it wasn;t like ths before the first surgery. sorry i cant type
> well laying in bed which ive been doig since i got home. surgeon is
> suppoosed to call me tomorrow and i'm supposed to have an at home PT
> assessnent too. 2 surgeries and i don't feel any improvement. am i
> looking for something too soon?
>
Oh no! I hope later posts from you will reveal a large amount of
improvement!

--
Jean B.