Why is it so hard to find? Every brand has some form of sugar as the
2nd ingredient after peanuts. Even the "natural" pb's are "peanuts,
sugar, palm oil, and salt" (they took out some of the good peanut oil
and replaced it with nasty greasy palm oil) I guess it's natural
because they used sugar instead of HFCS, and palm oil instead of
hydrogenated soybean oil. Sweetened PB works just fine for cooking, but
not for eating on a cracker. I used to make my own, (the new blender
made me think of it again) the trick will be finding salted dry roasted
peanuts without a lot of MSG and yeast extract and dextrose and crap
added.

The best peanut butter I've ever eaten was made in the store at a
Kroger's many years ago. They had a peanut grinder with a big hopper of
redskin peanuts and you ground however much you wanted into a plastic
carton. I liked the gritty texture from the skins -- although a big
part of it might have been the novelty.

Bob

On Sep 6, 12:41*pm, zxcvbob > wrote:
> Why is it so hard to find? *Every brand has some form of sugar as the
> 2nd ingredient after peanuts. *Even the "natural" pb's are "peanuts,
> sugar, palm oil, and salt" (they took out some of the good peanut oil
> and replaced it with nasty greasy palm oil) *I guess it's natural
> because they used sugar instead of HFCS, and palm oil instead of
> hydrogenated soybean oil. *Sweetened PB works just fine for cooking, but
> not for eating on a cracker. *I used to make my own, (the new blender
> made me think of it again) the trick will be finding salted dry roasted
> peanuts without a lot of MSG and yeast extract and dextrose and crap
> added.
>
> The best peanut butter I've ever eaten was made in the store at a
> Kroger's many years ago. *They had a peanut grinder with a big hopper of
> redskin peanuts and you ground however much you wanted into a plastic
> carton. *I liked the gritty texture from the skins -- although a big
> part of it might have been the novelty.
>
> Bob

Try Adam's...my favorite.
http://www.adamspeanutbutter.com/product

Chemo wrote:
> On Sep 6, 12:41 pm, zxcvbob > wrote:
>
>> Why is it so hard to find? Every brand has some form of sugar as the
>> 2nd ingredient after peanuts. Even the "natural" pb's are "peanuts,
>> sugar, palm oil, and salt" (they took out some of the good peanut oil
>> and replaced it with nasty greasy palm oil) I guess it's natural
>> because they used sugar instead of HFCS, and palm oil instead of
>> hydrogenated soybean oil. Sweetened PB works just fine for cooking, but
>> not for eating on a cracker. I used to make my own, (the new blender
>> made me think of it again) the trick will be finding salted dry roasted
>> peanuts without a lot of MSG and yeast extract and dextrose and crap
>> added.
>>
>> The best peanut butter I've ever eaten was made in the store at a
>> Kroger's many years ago. They had a peanut grinder with a big hopper of
>> redskin peanuts and you ground however much you wanted into a plastic
>> carton. I liked the gritty texture from the skins -- although a big
>> part of it might have been the novelty.
>>
>> Bob
>>
>
> Try Adam's...my favorite.
> http://www.adamspeanutbutter.com/product
>

That looks good. Not available here, even though it's distributed by
Smucker's (must be a regional brand)

Bob

On Sep 6, 1:08*pm, zxcvbob > wrote:
> Chemo wrote:
> > On Sep 6, 12:41 pm, zxcvbob > wrote:
>
> >> Why is it so hard to find? *Every brand has some form of sugar as the
> >> 2nd ingredient after peanuts. *Even the "natural" pb's are "peanuts,
> >> sugar, palm oil, and salt" (they took out some of the good peanut oil
> >> and replaced it with nasty greasy palm oil) *I guess it's natural
> >> because they used sugar instead of HFCS, and palm oil instead of
> >> hydrogenated soybean oil. *Sweetened PB works just fine for cooking, but
> >> not for eating on a cracker. *I used to make my own, (the new blender
> >> made me think of it again) the trick will be finding salted dry roasted
> >> peanuts without a lot of MSG and yeast extract and dextrose and crap
> >> added.
>
> >> The best peanut butter I've ever eaten was made in the store at a
> >> Kroger's many years ago. *They had a peanut grinder with a big hopper of
> >> redskin peanuts and you ground however much you wanted into a plastic
> >> carton. *I liked the gritty texture from the skins -- although a big
> >> part of it might have been the novelty.
>
> >> Bob
>
> > Try Adam's...my favorite.
> >http://www.adamspeanutbutter.com/product
>
> That looks good. Not available here, even though it's distributed by
> Smucker's (must be a regional brand)
>
> Bob

I live in the Pacific NW so we get it just about anywhere. Really good.

On 9/6/2012 3:41 PM, zxcvbob wrote:
> Why is it so hard to find? Every brand has some form of sugar as
> the 2nd ingredient after peanuts. Even the "natural" pb's are
> "peanuts, sugar, palm oil, and salt" (they took out some of the good
> peanut oil and replaced it with nasty greasy palm oil) I guess it's
> natural because they used sugar instead of HFCS, and palm oil
> instead of hydrogenated soybean oil. Sweetened PB works just fine
> for cooking, but not for eating on a cracker. I used to make my
> own, (the new blender made me think of it again) the trick will be
> finding salted dry roasted peanuts without a lot of MSG and yeast
> extract and dextrose and crap added.
> The best peanut butter I've ever eaten was made in the store at a
> Kroger's many years ago. They had a peanut grinder with a big
> hopper of redskin peanuts and you ground however much you wanted
> into a plastic carton. I liked the gritty texture from the skins --
> although a big part of it might have been the novelty.
>
> Bob


How about Teddie?

http://www.teddie.com/nutrition.html

Just peanuts and salt.

Tracy

On Sep 6, 1:36*pm, Tracy > wrote:
> On 9/6/2012 3:41 PM, zxcvbob wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Why is it so hard to find? *Every brand has some form of sugar as
> > the 2nd ingredient after peanuts. *Even the "natural" pb's are
> > "peanuts, sugar, palm oil, and salt" (they took out some of the good
> > peanut oil and replaced it with nasty greasy palm oil) *I guess it's
> > natural because they used sugar instead of HFCS, and palm oil
> > instead of hydrogenated soybean oil. *Sweetened PB works just fine
> > for cooking, but not for eating on a cracker. *I used to make my
> > own, (the new blender made me think of it again) the trick will be
> > finding salted dry roasted peanuts without a lot of MSG and yeast
> > extract and dextrose and crap added.
> > The best peanut butter I've ever eaten was made in the store at a
> > Kroger's many years ago. *They had a peanut grinder with a big
> > hopper of redskin peanuts and you ground however much you wanted
> > into a plastic carton. *I liked the gritty texture from the skins --
> > although a big part of it might have been the novelty.
>
> > Bob
>
> How about Teddie?
>
> http://www.teddie.com/nutrition.html
>
> Just peanuts and salt.
>
> Tracy

I think I saw Jiffy has come out with a natural brand.

On Sep 6, 12:41*pm, zxcvbob > wrote:
> Why is it so hard to find? *Every brand has some form of sugar as the
> 2nd ingredient after peanuts. *Even the "natural" pb's are "peanuts,
> sugar, palm oil, and salt" (they took out some of the good peanut oil
> and replaced it with nasty greasy palm oil) *I guess it's natural
> because they used sugar instead of HFCS, and palm oil instead of
> hydrogenated soybean oil. *Sweetened PB works just fine for cooking, but
> not for eating on a cracker. *I used to make my own, (the new blender
> made me think of it again) the trick will be finding salted dry roasted
> peanuts without a lot of MSG and yeast extract and dextrose and crap
> added.
>
> The best peanut butter I've ever eaten was made in the store at a
> Kroger's many years ago. *They had a peanut grinder with a big hopper of
> redskin peanuts and you ground however much you wanted into a plastic
> carton. *I liked the gritty texture from the skins -- although a big
> part of it might have been the novelty.
>
> Bob

How about this one?
http://koeze.com/all-natural-peanut-butter-jar.aspx

zxcvbob wrote:

> Why is it so hard to find? Every brand has some form of sugar as the
> 2nd ingredient after peanuts. Even the "natural" pb's are "peanuts,
> sugar, palm oil, and salt"

Stores in my area all have at least two kinds of natural with only
peanuts and salt. Are you sure you've looked thoroughly? Smuckers is
very good and widely available.

On Thu, 06 Sep 2012 15:08:40 -0500, zxcvbob >
wrote:

>Chemo wrote:
>> On Sep 6, 12:41 pm, zxcvbob > wrote:
>>
>>> Why is it so hard to find? Every brand has some form of sugar as the
>>> 2nd ingredient after peanuts. Even the "natural" pb's are "peanuts,
>>> sugar, palm oil, and salt" (they took out some of the good peanut oil
>>> and replaced it with nasty greasy palm oil) I guess it's natural
>>> because they used sugar instead of HFCS, and palm oil instead of
>>> hydrogenated soybean oil. Sweetened PB works just fine for cooking, but
>>> not for eating on a cracker. I used to make my own, (the new blender
>>> made me think of it again) the trick will be finding salted dry roasted
>>> peanuts without a lot of MSG and yeast extract and dextrose and crap
>>> added.
>>>
>>> The best peanut butter I've ever eaten was made in the store at a
>>> Kroger's many years ago. They had a peanut grinder with a big hopper of
>>> redskin peanuts and you ground however much you wanted into a plastic
>>> carton. I liked the gritty texture from the skins -- although a big
>>> part of it might have been the novelty.
>>>
>>> Bob
>>>
>>
>> Try Adam's...my favorite.
>> http://www.adamspeanutbutter.com/product
>>
>
>That looks good. Not available here, even though it's distributed by
>Smucker's (must be a regional brand)

http://www.amazon.com/Adams-Peanut-B...+peanut+butter

Chemo wrote:

> I think I saw Jiffy has come out with a natural brand.

I saw it in the store -- it is sweetened. No emulsifiers, but god
forbid they leave out the sugar!

Chemo wrote:
> zxcvbob > wrote:
>
>> The best peanut butter I've ever eaten was made in the store at a
>> Kroger's many years ago. *They had a peanut grinder with a big hopper of
>> redskin peanuts and you ground however much you wanted into a plastic
>> carton. *I liked the gritty texture from the skins -- although a big
>> part of it might have been the novelty.

You can make your own at home in a food processor. Nuts other than
peanuts are even better.

> Try Adam's...my favorite.
> http://www.adamspeanutbutter.com/product

There are various natural brands available by region. Keep looking
and/or go to the speciality shops or the more expensive places.

"zxcvbob" > wrote in message
...
> Why is it so hard to find? Every brand has some form of sugar as the 2nd
> ingredient after peanuts. Even the "natural" pb's are "peanuts, sugar,
> palm oil, and salt" (they took out some of the good peanut oil and
> replaced it with nasty greasy palm oil) I guess it's natural because they
> used sugar instead of HFCS, and palm oil instead of hydrogenated soybean
> oil. Sweetened PB works just fine for cooking, but not for eating on a
> cracker. I used to make my own, (the new blender made me think of it
> again) the trick will be finding salted dry roasted peanuts without a lot
> of MSG and yeast extract and dextrose and crap added.
> The best peanut butter I've ever eaten was made in the store at a Kroger's
> many years ago. They had a peanut grinder with a big hopper of redskin
> peanuts and you ground however much you wanted into a plastic carton. I
> liked the gritty texture from the skins -- although a big part of it might
> have been the novelty.

Many of the stores here have the grinders.

On Sep 6, 1:58*pm, Doug Freyburger > wrote:
> Chemo wrote:
> > zxcvbob > wrote:
>
> >> The best peanut butter I've ever eaten was made in the store at a
> >> Kroger's many years ago. *They had a peanut grinder with a big hopper of
> >> redskin peanuts and you ground however much you wanted into a plastic
> >> carton. *I liked the gritty texture from the skins -- although a big
> >> part of it might have been the novelty.
>
> You can make your own at home in a food processor. *Nuts other than
> peanuts are even better.
>
> > Try Adam's...my favorite.
> >http://www.adamspeanutbutter.com/product
>
> There are various natural brands available by region. *Keep looking
> and/or go to the speciality shops or the more expensive places.

At Fred Myer as well as some local health food stores, they have a
peanut butter machine where you buy the peanuts you want and it's free
to make your own peanut butter.

zxcvbob wrote:
>
> Why is it so hard to find? Every brand has some form of sugar as the
> 2nd ingredient after peanuts. Even the "natural" pb's are "peanuts,
> sugar, palm oil, and salt" (they took out some of the good peanut oil
> and replaced it with nasty greasy palm oil) I guess it's natural
> because they used sugar instead of HFCS, and palm oil instead of
> hydrogenated soybean oil. Sweetened PB works just fine for cooking, but
> not for eating on a cracker. I used to make my own, (the new blender
> made me think of it again) the trick will be finding salted dry roasted
> peanuts without a lot of MSG and yeast extract and dextrose and crap
> added.

Just buy raw (right from the) farm peanuts and roast them yourself.
A friend of mine gives me some each year.
No worries about any additives that you don't care for.

Personally, I prefer Jif!@

Gary

On Thu, 6 Sep 2012 14:04:00 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
>"zxcvbob" > wrote in message
...
>> Why is it so hard to find? Every brand has some form of sugar as the 2nd
>> ingredient after peanuts. Even the "natural" pb's are "peanuts, sugar,
>> palm oil, and salt" (they took out some of the good peanut oil and
>> replaced it with nasty greasy palm oil) I guess it's natural because they
>> used sugar instead of HFCS, and palm oil instead of hydrogenated soybean
>> oil. Sweetened PB works just fine for cooking, but not for eating on a
>> cracker. I used to make my own, (the new blender made me think of it
>> again) the trick will be finding salted dry roasted peanuts without a lot
>> of MSG and yeast extract and dextrose and crap added.
>> The best peanut butter I've ever eaten was made in the store at a Kroger's
>> many years ago. They had a peanut grinder with a big hopper of redskin
>> peanuts and you ground however much you wanted into a plastic carton. I
>> liked the gritty texture from the skins -- although a big part of it might
>> have been the novelty.
>
>Many of the stores here have the grinders.

Yeah, but you still need to find and buy the right roasted peanuts,
not so easy.

On Sep 6, 2:25*pm, Brooklyn1 <Gravesend1> wrote:
> On Thu, 6 Sep 2012 14:04:00 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > wrote:
>
> >"zxcvbob" > wrote in message
> ...
> >> Why is it so hard to find? *Every brand has some form of sugar as the 2nd
> >> ingredient after peanuts. *Even the "natural" pb's are "peanuts, sugar,
> >> palm oil, and salt" (they took out some of the good peanut oil and
> >> replaced it with nasty greasy palm oil) *I guess it's natural because they
> >> used sugar instead of HFCS, and palm oil instead of hydrogenated soybean
> >> oil. *Sweetened PB works just fine for cooking, but not for eating on a
> >> cracker. *I used to make my own, (the new blender made me think of it
> >> again) the trick will be finding salted dry roasted peanuts without a lot
> >> of MSG and yeast extract and dextrose and crap added.
> >> The best peanut butter I've ever eaten was made in the store at a Kroger's
> >> many years ago. *They had a peanut grinder with a big hopper of redskin
> >> peanuts and you ground however much you wanted into a plastic carton. *I
> >> liked the gritty texture from the skins -- although a big part of it might
> >> have been the novelty.
>
> >Many of the stores here have the grinders.
>
> Yeah, but you still need to find and buy the right roasted peanuts,
> not so easy.

I use the organic peanuts right at the store and grind them at the
store.

On 9/6/2012 11:25 AM, Gary wrote:
> zxcvbob wrote:
>>
>> Why is it so hard to find? Every brand has some form of sugar as the
>> 2nd ingredient after peanuts. Even the "natural" pb's are "peanuts,
>> sugar, palm oil, and salt" (they took out some of the good peanut oil
>> and replaced it with nasty greasy palm oil) I guess it's natural
>> because they used sugar instead of HFCS, and palm oil instead of
>> hydrogenated soybean oil. Sweetened PB works just fine for cooking, but
>> not for eating on a cracker. I used to make my own, (the new blender
>> made me think of it again) the trick will be finding salted dry roasted
>> peanuts without a lot of MSG and yeast extract and dextrose and crap
>> added.
>
> Just buy raw (right from the) farm peanuts and roast them yourself.
> A friend of mine gives me some each year.
> No worries about any additives that you don't care for.
>
> Personally, I prefer Jif!@
>

I always see grind-your-own nut butter machines in health food stores so
what the problem is is unclear. How do you roast peanuts? My guess is
that you stick them in a 300 degree oven for an hour.

I like Jif because it's tasty. Ground peanuts are just too bland. Jif
has a new hazelnut chocolate spread. I dislike hazelnuts but it could be
a good seller for Jif - if they put in enough sugar. :-)

> Gary
>

On Thu, 06 Sep 2012 14:41:22 -0500, zxcvbob >
wrote:

>Why is it so hard to find? Every brand has some form of sugar as the
>2nd ingredient after peanuts. Even the "natural" pb's are "peanuts,
>sugar, palm oil, and salt" (they took out some of the good peanut oil
>and replaced it with nasty greasy palm oil) I guess it's natural
>because they used sugar instead of HFCS, and palm oil instead of
>hydrogenated soybean oil. Sweetened PB works just fine for cooking, but
>not for eating on a cracker. I used to make my own, (the new blender
>made me think of it again) the trick will be finding salted dry roasted
>peanuts without a lot of MSG and yeast extract and dextrose and crap
>added.
>
>The best peanut butter I've ever eaten was made in the store at a
>Kroger's many years ago. They had a peanut grinder with a big hopper of
>redskin peanuts and you ground however much you wanted into a plastic
>carton. I liked the gritty texture from the skins -- although a big
>part of it might have been the novelty.
>
>Bob

Do you shop Costco? Kirkland has their own brand and I believe it is
all natural, organic and unsweetened. I've heard that it is good.
Janet US

On Sep 6, 3:25*pm, Janet Bostwick > wrote:
> On Thu, 06 Sep 2012 14:41:22 -0500, zxcvbob >
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >Why is it so hard to find? *Every brand has some form of sugar as the
> >2nd ingredient after peanuts. *Even the "natural" pb's are "peanuts,
> >sugar, palm oil, and salt" (they took out some of the good peanut oil
> >and replaced it with nasty greasy palm oil) *I guess it's natural
> >because they used sugar instead of HFCS, and palm oil instead of
> >hydrogenated soybean oil. *Sweetened PB works just fine for cooking, but
> >not for eating on a cracker. *I used to make my own, (the new blender
> >made me think of it again) the trick will be finding salted dry roasted
> >peanuts without a lot of MSG and yeast extract and dextrose and crap
> >added.
>
> >The best peanut butter I've ever eaten was made in the store at a
> >Kroger's many years ago. *They had a peanut grinder with a big hopper of
> >redskin peanuts and you ground however much you wanted into a plastic
> >carton. *I liked the gritty texture from the skins -- although a big
> >part of it might have been the novelty.
>
> >Bob
>
> Do you shop Costco? *Kirkland has their own brand and I believe it is
> all natural, organic and unsweetened. *I've heard that it is good.
> Janet US

Going to Costco tonight. Might have to look it up.

On Sep 6, 3:25*pm, Janet Bostwick > wrote:
> On Thu, 06 Sep 2012 14:41:22 -0500, zxcvbob >
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >Why is it so hard to find? *Every brand has some form of sugar as the
> >2nd ingredient after peanuts. *Even the "natural" pb's are "peanuts,
> >sugar, palm oil, and salt" (they took out some of the good peanut oil
> >and replaced it with nasty greasy palm oil) *I guess it's natural
> >because they used sugar instead of HFCS, and palm oil instead of
> >hydrogenated soybean oil. *Sweetened PB works just fine for cooking, but
> >not for eating on a cracker. *I used to make my own, (the new blender
> >made me think of it again) the trick will be finding salted dry roasted
> >peanuts without a lot of MSG and yeast extract and dextrose and crap
> >added.
>
> >The best peanut butter I've ever eaten was made in the store at a
> >Kroger's many years ago. *They had a peanut grinder with a big hopper of
> >redskin peanuts and you ground however much you wanted into a plastic
> >carton. *I liked the gritty texture from the skins -- although a big
> >part of it might have been the novelty.
>
> >Bob
>
> Do you shop Costco? *Kirkland has their own brand and I believe it is
> all natural, organic and unsweetened. *I've heard that it is good.
> Janet US

Don't know if it's organic, but it's just Valencia peanuts & salt.

On Thu, 6 Sep 2012 14:29:34 -0700 (PDT), Chemo >
wrote:

>On Sep 6, 2:25*pm, Brooklyn1 <Gravesend1> wrote:
>> On Thu, 6 Sep 2012 14:04:00 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >"zxcvbob" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> >> Why is it so hard to find? *Every brand has some form of sugar as the 2nd
>> >> ingredient after peanuts. *Even the "natural" pb's are "peanuts, sugar,
>> >> palm oil, and salt" (they took out some of the good peanut oil and
>> >> replaced it with nasty greasy palm oil) *I guess it's natural because they
>> >> used sugar instead of HFCS, and palm oil instead of hydrogenated soybean
>> >> oil. *Sweetened PB works just fine for cooking, but not for eating on a
>> >> cracker. *I used to make my own, (the new blender made me think of it
>> >> again) the trick will be finding salted dry roasted peanuts without a lot
>> >> of MSG and yeast extract and dextrose and crap added.
>> >> The best peanut butter I've ever eaten was made in the store at a Kroger's
>> >> many years ago. *They had a peanut grinder with a big hopper of redskin
>> >> peanuts and you ground however much you wanted into a plastic carton. *I
>> >> liked the gritty texture from the skins -- although a big part of it might
>> >> have been the novelty.
>>
>> >Many of the stores here have the grinders.
>>
>> Yeah, but you still need to find and buy the right roasted peanuts,
>> not so easy.
>
>I use the organic peanuts right at the store and grind them at the
>store.

They're not consistant. I buy in the shell peanuts all the time but
every bag tastes a little different, it's a crap shoot crop...
occasonally they aren't good except for the squirrels. I think buying
a good brand of natural peanut butter makes more sense, no labor and
somehow it's very consistant. And I don't care one iota about
organic... there is no such thing... it's a scam to extract dollars
from the pinheads who have no sense.

On Sep 6, 4:05*pm, Brooklyn1 <Gravesend1> wrote:
> On Thu, 6 Sep 2012 14:29:34 -0700 (PDT), Chemo >
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >On Sep 6, 2:25*pm, Brooklyn1 <Gravesend1> wrote:
> >> On Thu, 6 Sep 2012 14:04:00 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>
> >> > wrote:
>
> >> >"zxcvbob" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >> >> Why is it so hard to find? *Every brand has some form of sugar as the 2nd
> >> >> ingredient after peanuts. *Even the "natural" pb's are "peanuts, sugar,
> >> >> palm oil, and salt" (they took out some of the good peanut oil and
> >> >> replaced it with nasty greasy palm oil) *I guess it's natural because they
> >> >> used sugar instead of HFCS, and palm oil instead of hydrogenated soybean
> >> >> oil. *Sweetened PB works just fine for cooking, but not for eating on a
> >> >> cracker. *I used to make my own, (the new blender made me think of it
> >> >> again) the trick will be finding salted dry roasted peanuts without a lot
> >> >> of MSG and yeast extract and dextrose and crap added.
> >> >> The best peanut butter I've ever eaten was made in the store at a Kroger's
> >> >> many years ago. *They had a peanut grinder with a big hopper of redskin
> >> >> peanuts and you ground however much you wanted into a plastic carton. *I
> >> >> liked the gritty texture from the skins -- although a big part of it might
> >> >> have been the novelty.
>
> >> >Many of the stores here have the grinders.
>
> >> Yeah, but you still need to find and buy the right roasted peanuts,
> >> not so easy.
>
> >I use the organic peanuts right at the store and grind them at the
> >store.
>
> They're not consistant. *I buy in the shell peanuts all the time but
> every bag tastes a little different, it's a crap shoot crop...
> occasonally they aren't good except for the squirrels. *I think buying
> a good brand of natural peanut butter makes more sense, no labor and
> somehow it's very consistant. *And I don't care one iota about
> organic... there is no such thing... it's a scam to extract dollars
> from the pinheads who have no sense.

You're an idiot.

On 9/6/2012 6:00 PM, merryb wrote:
> On Sep 6, 3:25 pm, Janet > wrote:
>> On Thu, 06 Sep 2012 14:41:22 -0500, >
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> Why is it so hard to find? Every brand has some form of sugar as the
>>> 2nd ingredient after peanuts. Even the "natural" pb's are "peanuts,
>>> sugar, palm oil, and salt" (they took out some of the good peanut oil
>>> and replaced it with nasty greasy palm oil) I guess it's natural
>>> because they used sugar instead of HFCS, and palm oil instead of
>>> hydrogenated soybean oil. Sweetened PB works just fine for cooking, but
>>> not for eating on a cracker. I used to make my own, (the new blender
>>> made me think of it again) the trick will be finding salted dry roasted
>>> peanuts without a lot of MSG and yeast extract and dextrose and crap
>>> added.
>>
>>> The best peanut butter I've ever eaten was made in the store at a
>>> Kroger's many years ago. They had a peanut grinder with a big hopper of
>>> redskin peanuts and you ground however much you wanted into a plastic
>>> carton. I liked the gritty texture from the skins -- although a big
>>> part of it might have been the novelty.
>>
>>> Bob
>>
>> Do you shop Costco? Kirkland has their own brand and I believe it is
>> all natural, organic and unsweetened. I've heard that it is good.
>> Janet US
>
> Don't know if it's organic, but it's just Valencia peanuts& salt.


There's no Costco around here. They are about to build one.

Bob

"Brooklyn1" <Gravesend1> wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 6 Sep 2012 14:29:34 -0700 (PDT), Chemo >
> wrote:
>
>>On Sep 6, 2:25 pm, Brooklyn1 <Gravesend1> wrote:
>>> On Thu, 6 Sep 2012 14:04:00 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>> >"zxcvbob" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>> >> Why is it so hard to find? Every brand has some form of sugar as the
>>> >> 2nd
>>> >> ingredient after peanuts. Even the "natural" pb's are "peanuts,
>>> >> sugar,
>>> >> palm oil, and salt" (they took out some of the good peanut oil and
>>> >> replaced it with nasty greasy palm oil) I guess it's natural because
>>> >> they
>>> >> used sugar instead of HFCS, and palm oil instead of hydrogenated
>>> >> soybean
>>> >> oil. Sweetened PB works just fine for cooking, but not for eating on
>>> >> a
>>> >> cracker. I used to make my own, (the new blender made me think of it
>>> >> again) the trick will be finding salted dry roasted peanuts without a
>>> >> lot
>>> >> of MSG and yeast extract and dextrose and crap added.
>>> >> The best peanut butter I've ever eaten was made in the store at a
>>> >> Kroger's
>>> >> many years ago. They had a peanut grinder with a big hopper of
>>> >> redskin
>>> >> peanuts and you ground however much you wanted into a plastic carton.
>>> >> I
>>> >> liked the gritty texture from the skins -- although a big part of it
>>> >> might
>>> >> have been the novelty.
>>>
>>> >Many of the stores here have the grinders.
>>>
>>> Yeah, but you still need to find and buy the right roasted peanuts,
>>> not so easy.
>>
>>I use the organic peanuts right at the store and grind them at the
>>store.
>
> They're not consistant. I buy in the shell peanuts all the time but
> every bag tastes a little different, it's a crap shoot crop...
> occasonally they aren't good except for the squirrels. I think buying
> a good brand of natural peanut butter makes more sense, no labor and
> somehow it's very consistant. And I don't care one iota about
> organic... there is no such thing... it's a scam to extract dollars
> from the pinheads who have no sense.

Yeah. I haven't bought them like that for a while. I had to quit feeding
the squirrels here except for when I see them. I used to keep some
hazelnuts in the shell by the front door for them but I don't see them much
any more. We have too many rats around and I was told not to feed the
animals. I loved putting peanuts out for the Stellar Jays. But no more.

When we lived in NY, I would buy peanuts at the Brooklyn Army base. They
sold them salted and unsalted from a huge box. I don't think they added to
the box. You'd just watch the supply dwindle. They were sold in bulk. I
didn't like to buy them when it got towards the bottom of the box because
they weren't necessarily fresh.

On Thu, 06 Sep 2012 16:57:11 -0400, George M. Middius
> wrote:

>zxcvbob wrote:
>
>> Why is it so hard to find? Every brand has some form of sugar as the
>> 2nd ingredient after peanuts. Even the "natural" pb's are "peanuts,
>> sugar, palm oil, and salt"
>
>Stores in my area all have at least two kinds of natural with only
>peanuts and salt. Are you sure you've looked thoroughly? Smuckers is
>very good and widely available.
>

Yep, Smucker's is what I buy. Just scored 2 jars for 2-for-$6 at
Schnucks.

John Kuthe...

George M. Middius wrote:
> Chemo wrote:
>
>> I think I saw Jiffy has come out with a natural brand.
>
> I saw it in the store -- it is sweetened. No emulsifiers, but god
> forbid they leave out the sugar!

Compare the carb counts between the brands with sugar and the brands
without. The same. The cheap brands must use the most whithered burned
out crappy peanuts they can find and then they add sugar to make up for
the missing quality. Yet what's on my shelf at the moment? Jif. It's
easy to find. Go figure. I wag my finger at myself. ;^)

l, not -l wrote:
> On 6-Sep-2012, zxcvbob > wrote:
>
>> Why is it so hard to find? Every brand has some form of sugar as the
>> 2nd ingredient after peanuts. Even the "natural" pb's are "peanuts,
>> sugar, palm oil, and salt" (they took out some of the good peanut oil
>> and replaced it with nasty greasy palm oil) I guess it's natural
>> because they used sugar instead of HFCS, and palm oil instead of
>> hydrogenated soybean oil. Sweetened PB works just fine for cooking, but
>> not for eating on a cracker. I used to make my own, (the new blender
>> made me think of it again) the trick will be finding salted dry roasted
>> peanuts without a lot of MSG and yeast extract and dextrose and crap
>> added.
>
> I recommend Smucker's Natural, I prefer the chunky variety. "Ingredients:
> Peanuts, contains 1% or less of salt."
>
> When bought, there is oil separation and it needs to be stirred vigorously
> to reincorporate. Refrigeration tends to keep separation from reocurring.


Thanks, I will look for it. Meanwhile, I bought a pound of unsalted
dry-roasted peanuts to grind. Not sure how much salt to add (about 4.5
grams?) it probably needs to be that really fine popcorn salt.

Bob

zxcvbob > wrote in :
> Why is it so hard to find? Every brand has some form of sugar as the
> 2nd ingredient after peanuts. Even the "natural" pb's are "peanuts,
> sugar, palm oil, and salt" (they took out some of the good peanut oil
> and replaced it with nasty greasy palm oil) I guess it's natural
> because they used sugar instead of HFCS, and palm oil instead of
> hydrogenated soybean oil. Sweetened PB works just fine for cooking, but
> not for eating on a cracker. I used to make my own, (the new blender
> made me think of it again) the trick will be finding salted dry roasted
> peanuts without a lot of MSG and yeast extract and dextrose and crap
> added.
>
> The best peanut butter I've ever eaten was made in the store at a
> Kroger's many years ago. They had a peanut grinder with a big hopper of
> redskin peanuts and you ground however much you wanted into a plastic
> carton. I liked the gritty texture from the skins -- although a big
> part of it might have been the novelty.

For the past five years the only peanut butter I've bought is the
Trader Joe's house brand. I get the Crunchy Salted (ingrediants:
Dry Roasted Peanuts and salt). It is available both smooth and
unsalted as well.

I used to buy the Smuckers brand (also just peanuts and salt), but
found that I saved about 40% by switching to Trader Joe's.

Lawman

zxcvbob wrote:
> l, not -l wrote:
>
>> I recommend Smucker's Natural, I prefer the chunky variety. "Ingredients:
>> Peanuts, contains 1% or less of salt."
>>
>> When bought, there is oil separation and it needs to be stirred vigorously
>> to reincorporate. Refrigeration tends to keep separation from reocurring.
>
> Thanks, I will look for it. Meanwhile, I bought a pound of unsalted
> dry-roasted peanuts to grind. Not sure how much salt to add (about 4.5
> grams?) it probably needs to be that really fine popcorn salt.

Try it without added salt. Taste it near the end. If it needs it then
add the salt. Nut butter I've made more often than not needs no added
salt for my tastes.

lawman3 wrote:

> For the past five years the only peanut butter I've bought is the
> Trader Joe's house brand.

I've had that too, and anybody who hasn't, take heed: It has a muted,
flat taste compared to Smuckers.

On Thu, 06 Sep 2012 21:47:25 -0500, zxcvbob >
wrote:

>l, not -l wrote:
>> On 6-Sep-2012, zxcvbob > wrote:
>>
>>> Why is it so hard to find? Every brand has some form of sugar as the
>>> 2nd ingredient after peanuts. Even the "natural" pb's are "peanuts,
>>> sugar, palm oil, and salt" (they took out some of the good peanut oil
>>> and replaced it with nasty greasy palm oil) I guess it's natural
>>> because they used sugar instead of HFCS, and palm oil instead of
>>> hydrogenated soybean oil. Sweetened PB works just fine for cooking, but
>>> not for eating on a cracker. I used to make my own, (the new blender
>>> made me think of it again) the trick will be finding salted dry roasted
>>> peanuts without a lot of MSG and yeast extract and dextrose and crap
>>> added.
>>
>> I recommend Smucker's Natural, I prefer the chunky variety. "Ingredients:
>> Peanuts, contains 1% or less of salt."
>>
>> When bought, there is oil separation and it needs to be stirred vigorously
>> to reincorporate. Refrigeration tends to keep separation from reocurring.
>
>
>Thanks, I will look for it. Meanwhile, I bought a pound of unsalted
>dry-roasted peanuts to grind. Not sure how much salt to add (about 4.5
>grams?) it probably needs to be that really fine popcorn salt.

Unless you feel you need to play kitchen there's no point, unless you
don't mind ruining a lot of peanuts. Dry roasted won't make very good
peanut butter, it'll be much too dry. You need to use in the shell
roasted peanuts, salted or not. I've tried grinding peanuts, it
doesn't turn out as good as what you can buy, texture or flaver wise.
I'm not a big peanut butter consumer but when I do indulge it's
Smucker's Natural. When I want real peanut flavor I eat in shell
peanuts, I buy these in 3 lb or 5 lb size, whichever is on sale at my
local market:
http://www.hamptonfarms.com/products...n-farms-brand/

http://www.walmart.com/ip/Smucker-s-...26-oz/10308155

On 9/6/2012 10:47 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> On Thu, 06 Sep 2012 21:47:25 -0500, >
> wrote:
>
>> l, not -l wrote:
>>> On 6-Sep-2012, > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Why is it so hard to find? Every brand has some form of sugar as the
>>>> 2nd ingredient after peanuts. Even the "natural" pb's are "peanuts,
>>>> sugar, palm oil, and salt" (they took out some of the good peanut oil
>>>> and replaced it with nasty greasy palm oil) I guess it's natural
>>>> because they used sugar instead of HFCS, and palm oil instead of
>>>> hydrogenated soybean oil. Sweetened PB works just fine for cooking, but
>>>> not for eating on a cracker. I used to make my own, (the new blender
>>>> made me think of it again) the trick will be finding salted dry roasted
>>>> peanuts without a lot of MSG and yeast extract and dextrose and crap
>>>> added.
>>>
>>> I recommend Smucker's Natural, I prefer the chunky variety. "Ingredients:
>>> Peanuts, contains 1% or less of salt."
>>>
>>> When bought, there is oil separation and it needs to be stirred vigorously
>>> to reincorporate. Refrigeration tends to keep separation from reocurring.
>>
>>
>> Thanks, I will look for it. Meanwhile, I bought a pound of unsalted
>> dry-roasted peanuts to grind. Not sure how much salt to add (about 4.5
>> grams?) it probably needs to be that really fine popcorn salt.
>
> Unless you feel you need to play kitchen there's no point, unless you
> don't mind ruining a lot of peanuts. Dry roasted won't make very good
> peanut butter, it'll be much too dry. You need to use in the shell
> roasted peanuts, salted or not. I've tried grinding peanuts, it
> doesn't turn out as good as what you can buy, texture or flaver wise.
> I'm not a big peanut butter consumer but when I do indulge it's
> Smucker's Natural. When I want real peanut flavor I eat in shell
> peanuts, I buy these in 3 lb or 5 lb size, whichever is on sale at my
> local market:
> http://www.hamptonfarms.com/products...n-farms-brand/
>
> http://www.walmart.com/ip/Smucker-s-...26-oz/10308155

Hmmm, it says they have that in stock at my local WMT. I will look for
it next time I go there (about once a month for dogfood) Thanks!

Bob

"zxcvbob" > wrote in message
...
> Why is it so hard to find? Every brand has some form of sugar as the 2nd
> ingredient after peanuts. Even the "natural" pb's are "peanuts, sugar,
> palm oil, and salt" (they took out some of the good peanut oil and
> replaced it with nasty greasy palm oil) I guess it's natural because they
> used sugar instead of HFCS, and palm oil instead of hydrogenated soybean
> oil. Sweetened PB works just fine for cooking, but not for eating on a
> cracker. I used to make my own, (the new blender made me think of it
> again) the trick will be finding salted dry roasted peanuts without a lot
> of MSG and yeast extract and dextrose and crap added.
> The best peanut butter I've ever eaten was made in the store at a Kroger's
> many years ago. They had a peanut grinder with a big hopper of redskin
> peanuts and you ground however much you wanted into a plastic carton. I
> liked the gritty texture from the skins -- although a big part of it might
> have been the novelty.


Laura Scudders. "Just peanuts and salt, nothing else."

Paul

"zxcvbob" wrote in message ...

Why is it so hard to find? Every brand has some form of sugar as the
2nd ingredient after peanuts. Even the "natural" pb's are "peanuts,
sugar, palm oil, and salt" (they took out some of the good peanut oil
and replaced it with nasty greasy palm oil) I guess it's natural
because they used sugar instead of HFCS, and palm oil instead of
hydrogenated soybean oil. Sweetened PB works just fine for cooking, but
not for eating on a cracker. I used to make my own, (the new blender
made me think of it again) the trick will be finding salted dry roasted
peanuts without a lot of MSG and yeast extract and dextrose and crap
added.

The best peanut butter I've ever eaten was made in the store at a
Kroger's many years ago. They had a peanut grinder with a big hopper of
redskin peanuts and you ground however much you wanted into a plastic
carton. I liked the gritty texture from the skins -- although a big
part of it might have been the novelty.

Bob


I guess it depends on where you live. I can buy Publix brand PB and all it
contains is ground peanuts and salt. It's not cheap, but it's delicious.

Jill

Sqwertz wrote:
>
> I wonder how they make "less fat" peanut butter. I looked at Laura
> Scudders and they have at least 2g of sugar from mostly maltodextrin
> I'm guessing. And it looks like they use "reduced fat ground peanuts"
> - the floor scrapings from the peanut oil factories?

At least peanut oil is sold as a regular product. They can grind the
peanuts, spin the butter to expell much of the natural oil and seel it
as a regular product. Then they can add some cheap crappy oil if needed
plus a bunch of sugar to correct the fact that removing the original oil
ruined the butter's texture.

I just looked at the jars in the shelf in the kitchen. Skippy not Jif
this time. Looks like there was a two for the price of one sale. Sure
enough it has cotton seed, rape seed and soy oils. It even admits to
having corn syrup. I figure that one is to spread the sugar across more
ingredients in the list to make it look like it has less.

The commercial one I like lately is Sun Butter. Ground from sunflower
seeds. Really good. I got the first one because it sounded cool to
have some butter another than tahini made from seeds rather than nuts.
I got the subsequent one because it tastes fabulous to me.

On Fri, 7 Sep 2012 15:54:18 +0000 (UTC), Doug Freyburger
> wrote:

> I just looked at the jars in the shelf in the kitchen. Skippy not Jif
> this time. Looks like there was a two for the price of one sale. Sure
> enough it has cotton seed, rape seed and soy oils. It even admits to
> having corn syrup. I figure that one is to spread the sugar across more
> ingredients in the list to make it look like it has less.
>
> The commercial one I like lately is Sun Butter. Ground from sunflower
> seeds. Really good. I got the first one because it sounded cool to
> have some butter another than tahini made from seeds rather than nuts.
> I got the subsequent one because it tastes fabulous to me.

If you're trying to figure out how to use the Skippy up quickly, find
a recipe for flourless peanut butter cookies. I had some cr*ppy store
brand I didn't like but didn't want to toss, so I made those with it.
I didn't use all the sugar the recipe called for and thought the batch
I made was fantastic.

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