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On Sep 22, 8:26*am, "Somebody" > wrote:
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> > I love milk. *I drink fat-free milk; had a tall glass of it yesterday, as
> > a matter of fact

>
> I really don't think adults should drink it... *babies weaning, sure.
>
> I still don't get why males get to see boobs the first three years as much
> as they want, and then have to go 20 years without.


You wanted your mom to go topless?

Explains a lot, I suppose.
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On Sep 22, 11:44*am, Brooklyn1 <Gravesend1> wrote:
> On Sat, 22 Sep 2012 10:04:41 -0700 (PDT), Chemo
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> >On Sep 22, 8:26*am, "Somebody" > wrote:
> >> "jmcquown" > wrote in message

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> >> > I love milk. *I drink fat-free milk; had a tall glass of it yesterday, as
> >> > a matter of fact

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> >> I really don't think adults should drink it... *babies weaning, sure..

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> >> I still don't get why males get to see boobs the first three years as much
> >> as they want, and then have to go 20 years without.

>
> >I was seeing and playing with boobs starting around 13....the neighbor
> >girl was like about 17. God, that was fun!!

>
> When I was 13 I was playing with 13 year old girls that were a Double
> D... one in particular was only 11... Sydel was my roller skating
> partner.


What is with Jewish chicks? Some are like twin cantaloupe, while
others barely scratch the surface.
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What is with Jewish chicks? Some are like twin cantaloupe, while
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On 9/22/2012 12:31 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> On Sat, 22 Sep 2012 11:26:21 -0400, Somebody wrote:
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>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
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>>
>>> I love milk. I drink fat-free milk; had a tall glass of it yesterday, as
>>> a matter of fact

>>
>> I really don't think adults should drink it... babies weaning, sure.
>>
>> I still don't get why males get to see boobs the first three years as much
>> as they want, and then have to go 20 years without.

>


first 3 years???


> Somebody needs to sober up and detox. In the meantime, take lots and
> lots of a Tylenol.
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On Friday, September 21, 2012 8:58:54 PM UTC-4, Somebody wrote:
> The ex was out of milk the other day, and her kids wanted some. So she went
>
> to the organic store near her, they had a gallon... for $12! Who would pay
>
> that?


Where is THIS? Turks and Caicos?

If desperate, I'd buy maybe just a quart or half gallon to tide me over, til I could get out for a gallon at a savings.

Tell her about freezing milk by the quart and never running out. It's been discussed here many times. Saves money and runouts.


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Kalmia > wrote:

>Tell her about freezing milk by the quart and never running out. It's
>been discussed here many times. Saves money and runouts.


It may or may not save money. Freezers cost money to own and
operate. Freezing items that are largely water is the least
efficient use of a freezer.

Approximately speaking, you are paying one dollar per month per
cubic foot of freezer space. If you freeze two gallos of milk
for six months, that might be costing you an extra $5. (Of course,
you only realize the savings by operating a smaller freezer
than if you weren't freezing milk.)

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On 9/21/2012 3:39 PM, ImStillMags wrote:
> On Sep 21, 5:58 pm, "Somebody" > wrote:
>> The ex was out of milk the other day, and her kids wanted some. So she went
>> to the organic store near her, they had a gallon... for $12! Who would pay
>> that?

>
> I would pay $0. I don't drink milk. IMHO the only ones who should
> drink cows milk are baby cows/calves.
>


What's strange is babies not drinking their own mother's milk. What's
odd is getting up in the middle of the night making a baby's formula. We
had our kids sleeping in the bed with us. When the kid would cry, one of
us would whip out a tit and start feeding the baby then we'd all go back
to sleep. As I recall, it wasn't me whipping out a tit. :-)

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Oh, the bottles fit into my regular side by side freezer - it's never chockablock full and I can always find room for three quart bottles.
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>Your dollar per month per cubic foot is too high also. Less than $3
>per cu.ft per year is common today.


Could be, I was just going by the data on one website.

Mostly, my point is that milk has a lot of water in it, so freezing
it you're mostly freezing water, which has no particular value.

Although, someone pointed out to me my practice of freezing
tomatoes in season has the same issue. The difference, I think,
is that tomatoes are unavailable out of season, which adds
to the value of freezing them.

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On 9/23/2012 12:37 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
> I saw a 5-year old breast feeding on the bus not long ago (the woman
> had a 2 year old as well). I didn't even know a woman could lactate
> that long.


That's just wrong, for both children. Or maybe its just a new sign of
our economy. I think a woman can lactate as long as a baby is feeding
but don't hold me to that.

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"Steve Pope" > wrote in message
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> Although, someone pointed out to me my practice of freezing
> tomatoes in season has the same issue. The difference, I think,
> is that tomatoes are unavailable out of season, which adds
> to the value of freezing them.
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> Steve



Does a frozen tomato have much flavor? How do you freeze it?


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Somebody > wrote:

>"Steve Pope" > wrote in message


>> Although, someone pointed out to me my practice of freezing
>> tomatoes in season has the same issue. The difference, I think,
>> is that tomatoes are unavailable out of season, which adds
>> to the value of freezing them.


>Does a frozen tomato have much flavor? How do you freeze it?


Great questions. First, we have only been freezing dry-farmed
tomatoes. They freeze really well. We either freeze them whole,
or oven-roast them first into a sort of sauce. We do not add
any salt or seasonings.

When they come out of the freezer, they basically get used in
sauces. It is superior (to my taste) to any shelf-stable
(canned or jarred) method. It's just about as good as a sauce
made from fresh tomatoes of the same quality.

So in my opinion, you want to do this with the best tomatoes
in peak season so that you can make good tomato sauce off-season.
It is the best option for off-season tomato sauce, so far
as I can tell.

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Sqwertz > wrote:

>On Mon, 24 Sep 2012 04:41:18 +0000 (UTC), Steve Pope wrote:


>> Somebody > wrote:


>>>"Steve Pope" > wrote in message


>>>> Although, someone pointed out to me my practice of freezing
>>>> tomatoes in season has the same issue. The difference, I think,
>>>> is that tomatoes are unavailable out of season, which adds
>>>> to the value of freezing them.

>>
>>>Does a frozen tomato have much flavor? How do you freeze it?

>>
>> Great questions.


>Please don't stroke the trolls.


Oh come on, they are strokable just the same as any
warm-blooded companion animal.

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> how much would you pay for a gallon of milk?
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About tree fiddy.

I usually pay about $2 per gallon, and as the price goes up from there I
buy a *lot* less. But I'd pay close to $4 if I had to and I *needed*
the milk for something. (I really don't use much milk at all)

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On Sep 23, 5:48*pm, Cheryl > wrote:
> On 9/23/2012 12:37 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
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> > I saw a 5-year old breast feeding on the bus not long ago (the woman
> > had a 2 year old as well). *I didn't even know a woman could lactate
> > that long.

>
> That's just wrong, for both children. *Or maybe its just a new sign of
> our economy. *I think a woman can lactate as long as a baby is feeding
> but don't hold me to that.


Some docs recommend that kids be breast fed until the age of five. My
guess is that there are cultures that will breast feed offspring even
later. It's a jarring thing to see.

My understanding is that males can produce milk by stimulating their
nipple and some cultures have male wet nurses. Who would guess? Not
me.
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"Steve Pope" > wrote in message
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>>"Steve Pope" > wrote in message

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>>> Although, someone pointed out to me my practice of freezing
>>> tomatoes in season has the same issue. The difference, I think,
>>> is that tomatoes are unavailable out of season, which adds
>>> to the value of freezing them.

>
>>Does a frozen tomato have much flavor? How do you freeze it?

>
> Great questions. First, we have only been freezing dry-farmed
> tomatoes. They freeze really well. We either freeze them whole,
> or oven-roast them first into a sort of sauce. We do not add
> any salt or seasonings.



I will have to try this. I have about 30 tomatoes all coming to fruition at
the same time. Most are just medium, but there are some beefsteak that are
getting quite large.

When you freeze them, what kind of container do you use? Put them in large
"baggies"? I love fresh cut up tomatoes in sauce, so looking forward to
trying freezing them like you do. And using the frozen in season tomatoes,
off season... Freezing sounds a lot simpler than canning. (I like to use
Occam's razor when cooking.) My dad used to can at the end of the year with
peaches, and cucumber/pickles, etc and it seemed very labor intensive and
took a lot of time. Though he quite enjoyed doing it.


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> Oh come on, they are strokable just the same as any
> warm-blooded companion animal.
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> Steve


Speaking of warm-blooded, frost alert here already! Was beautiful weather
last few weeks, and then over the weekend all of a sudden dropped at night
into the low teens and single digits (Celsius). My tomatoes may freeze
themselves!

Looks like the weather is going to moderate again tomorrow. I'm not going
to complain, those 105 degree days earlier this summer were killer. Garden
kinda just stagnated and withered for quite a while during that.

Are tomatoes warm-blooded or cold-blooded?




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[freezing tomatoes]

>When you freeze them, what kind of container do you use? Put them in large
>"baggies"?


Yes, I place whole tomatoes in large zip-lockes, and oven-dried
tomato sauce (or, "almost" sauce) into tupperware-type freezer
containers.

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On Sun, 23 Sep 2012 22:56:04 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

>On Sun, 23 Sep 2012 21:20:55 +0000 (UTC),
>(Steve Pope) wrote:
>
>>Kalmia > wrote:
>>
>>>Tell her about freezing milk by the quart and never running out. It's
>>>been discussed here many times. Saves money and runouts.

>>
>>It may or may not save money. Freezers cost money to own and
>>operate. Freezing items that are largely water is the least
>>efficient use of a freezer.
>>
>>Approximately speaking, you are paying one dollar per month per
>>cubic foot of freezer space. If you freeze two gallos of milk
>>for six months, that might be costing you an extra $5. (Of course,
>>you only realize the savings by operating a smaller freezer
>>than if you weren't freezing milk.)
>>
>>Steve

>
>I'm not so sure about your math. Sure, extracting the heat to freeze
>the milk has a cost, but once frozen, it is relatively cheap to
>maintain it. You also have thermal mass that helps keep the freezer
>cold when opened compared to empty space. In the event of a power
>failure, it helps keep the expensive meats frozen longer too, compared
>to either lower density or empty space.
>
>Your dollar per month per cubic foot is too high also. Less than $3
>per cu.ft per year is common today.
>
>In the case of milk, it may not be the most cost effective, but you
>have to consider if the convenience factor make it worth doing.


Exactly! Liquids are the most ecomical use of freezer space. And a
home freezer is really more than anything else a convenience, it's an
appliance same as a TV, same as a TV saves money by not having to
spend on theaters a freezer saves money by eliminating many trips to
the market. However it's certainly more economical to keep frozen
liquids than empty space... as ones freeezer stock depletes it's most
economical to fill those voids with containers of liquid in the
interim between shopping forays. A freezer shouldn't be so full that
items impede air circulation but filling the larger voids with high
mass items (beverages) saves operating costs, saves far more energy
freezing liquids than chilling air. During warm weather I freeze
water bottles, they defrost slowly so stay ice cold all day while
working outdoors. During power outages containers of frozen liquids
greatly extend the time foods remain frozen by slowing the thawing
process, the larger the containers the better... think of an ice chest
filled with cubes or block ice. During warm months I keep two half
gallon milk containers filled with water in my freezer as a matter of
course... I'm not too concerned about spoiled food from power outages
in winter.


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On Sun, 23 Sep 2012 23:57:22 -0400, "Somebody" >
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>"Steve Pope" > wrote in message
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>> Although, someone pointed out to me my practice of freezing
>> tomatoes in season has the same issue. The difference, I think,
>> is that tomatoes are unavailable out of season, which adds
>> to the value of freezing them.
>>
>> Steve

>
>
>Does a frozen tomato have much flavor? How do you freeze it?


First you cook tomatoes (sauce) to reduce their volume, it's extremely
low IQ to waste freezer space for raw tomatoes.
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On Sun, 23 Sep 2012 23:48:11 -0400, Cheryl >
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>On 9/23/2012 12:37 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
>> I saw a 5-year old breast feeding on the bus not long ago (the woman
>> had a 2 year old as well). I didn't even know a woman could lactate
>> that long.

>
>That's just wrong, for both children. Or maybe its just a new sign of
>our economy. I think a woman can lactate as long as a baby is feeding
>but don't hold me to that.


Woman can and do lactate continuously all the way up to menopause...
check out <wet nurse>... many earn their living practicing that
occupation.
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> > Somebody > wrote:
> >
> >>"Steve Pope" > wrote in message

> >
> >>> Although, someone pointed out to me my practice of freezing
> >>> tomatoes in season has the same issue. The difference, I think,
> >>> is that tomatoes are unavailable out of season, which adds
> >>> to the value of freezing them.

> >
> >>Does a frozen tomato have much flavor? How do you freeze it?

> >
> > Great questions. First, we have only been freezing dry-farmed
> > tomatoes. They freeze really well. We either freeze them whole,
> > or oven-roast them first into a sort of sauce. We do not add
> > any salt or seasonings.

>
>
> I will have to try this. I have about 30 tomatoes all coming to fruition at
> the same time. Most are just medium, but there are some beefsteak that are
> getting quite large.
>
> When you freeze them, what kind of container do you use? Put them in large
> "baggies"? I love fresh cut up tomatoes in sauce, so looking forward to
> trying freezing them like you do. And using the frozen in season tomatoes,
> off season... Freezing sounds a lot simpler than canning. (I like to use
> Occam's razor when cooking.) My dad used to can at the end of the year with
> peaches, and cucumber/pickles, etc and it seemed very labor intensive and
> took a lot of time. Though he quite enjoyed doing it.
>

I had a few tomatoes that I needed to do something with last week, so
I oven roasted them to whiz in the FP and freeze. After I did it, I
saw 1/4 of an onion that I could have roasted and whizzed with them.
I always seem to have the two together anyway, so it would have been
fine for my intents and purposes to just roast them together in the
first place.

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If you're going to anthropomorphize them, I vote for cold-blooded
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> When you freeze them, what kind of container do you use? Put them in large
> "baggies"? I love fresh cut up tomatoes in sauce, so looking forward to
> trying freezing them like you do. And using the frozen in season tomatoes,
> off season... Freezing sounds a lot simpler than canning.


I chop extra summer tomatoes just like they would go into the pot for
spaghetti sauce, chili, etc. Then I freeze them in ziploc bags until
needed. Much better than winter store tomatoes or canned.

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On 9/23/2012 4:50 PM, Kalmia wrote:
> On Friday, September 21, 2012 8:58:54 PM UTC-4, Somebody wrote:
>> The ex was out of milk the other day, and her kids wanted some. So she went
>>
>> to the organic store near her, they had a gallon... for $12! Who would pay
>>
>> that?

>
> Where is THIS? Turks and Caicos?
>
> If desperate, I'd buy maybe just a quart or half gallon to tide me over, til I could get out for a gallon at a savings.
>
> Tell her about freezing milk by the quart and never running out. It's been discussed here many times. Saves money and runouts.
>

For that price I'd start getting used to powdered milk. It can be mixed
with liquid milk to get used to it. My ex-husbands family grew up with
powdered milk, but they had 12 kids and it was the 60s/70s.
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> My ex-husbands family grew up with
> powdered milk, but they had 12 kids and it was the 60s/70s.


12 kids? Holy mackerel! That was a good catholic/mormon family.

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On Mon, 24 Sep 2012 20:47:28 -0400, Cheryl >
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>On 9/23/2012 4:50 PM, Kalmia wrote:
>> On Friday, September 21, 2012 8:58:54 PM UTC-4, Somebody wrote:
>>> The ex was out of milk the other day, and her kids wanted some. So she went
>>>
>>> to the organic store near her, they had a gallon... for $12! Who would pay
>>>
>>> that?

>>
>> Where is THIS? Turks and Caicos?
>>
>> If desperate, I'd buy maybe just a quart or half gallon to tide me over, til I could get out for a gallon at a savings.
>>
>> Tell her about freezing milk by the quart and never running out. It's been discussed here many times. Saves money and runouts.
>>

>For that price I'd start getting used to powdered milk. It can be mixed
>with liquid milk to get used to it. My ex-husbands family grew up with
>powdered milk, but they had 12 kids and it was the 60s/70s.


One measly drop of vanilla extract per quart totally obliterates that
it's powdered.
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On 9/24/2012 9:04 PM, sf wrote:
> On Mon, 24 Sep 2012 20:47:28 -0400, Cheryl >
> wrote:
>
>> My ex-husbands family grew up with
>> powdered milk, but they had 12 kids and it was the 60s/70s.

>
> 12 kids? Holy mackerel! That was a good catholic/mormon family.
>

Bingo. Catholic.


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> wrote:
>
>> My ex-husbands family grew up with
>> powdered milk, but they had 12 kids and it was the 60s/70s.

>
> 12 kids? Holy mackerel! That was a good catholic/mormon family.


my dad came from a family of 12, and one of those 12 had 12. My grandmother
had 56 grandchildren! (yes, they were farmers and catholic.)


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>> Are tomatoes warm-blooded or cold-blooded?

>
> If you're going to anthropomorphize them, I vote for cold-blooded
> because they need warmth to grow and produce.



the squirrels around here are cold-blooded. And getting kind of bold. They
seem to be pairing up and going kinda nuts... The vinegar soaked socks do
seem to be keeping them from the tomatoes.


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>> When you freeze them, what kind of container do you use? Put them in
>> large
>> "baggies"? I love fresh cut up tomatoes in sauce, so looking forward to
>> trying freezing them like you do. And using the frozen in season
>> tomatoes,
>> off season... Freezing sounds a lot simpler than canning.

>
> I chop extra summer tomatoes just like they would go into the pot for
> spaghetti sauce, chili, etc. Then I freeze them in ziploc bags until
> needed. Much better than winter store tomatoes or canned.
>
> G.



wonder know if I should with whole tomato as Steve suggests, or
chopped/diced like Gary... I'll try some of both. Pre-diced may be easier
when using?


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> I had a few tomatoes that I needed to do something with last week, so
> I oven roasted them to whiz in the FP and freeze. After I did it, I
> saw 1/4 of an onion that I could have roasted and whizzed with them.
> I always seem to have the two together anyway, so it would have been
> fine for my intents and purposes to just roast them together in the
> first place.



"whizzed" them?


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>wonder know if I should with whole tomato as Steve suggests, or
>chopped/diced like Gary... I'll try some of both. Pre-diced may be easier
>when using?


Either way works. If you chop them up, some juice will
squirt out. Also, with whole tomatoes you can rinse any
frost off when you take them out of the freezer.

Steve


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> ... Milk is always available.
>
> Steve



If you have an available supply of mammals, and keep them lactating.


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On 24/09/2012 11:57 PM, Cheryl wrote:
> On 9/24/2012 9:04 PM, sf wrote:
>> On Mon, 24 Sep 2012 20:47:28 -0400, Cheryl >
>> wrote:
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>>> My ex-husbands family grew up with
>>> powdered milk, but they had 12 kids and it was the 60s/70s.

>>
>> 12 kids? Holy mackerel! That was a good catholic/mormon family.
>>

> Bingo. Catholic.



My friend's mother came from a family that had had 6 kids, then a set of
quintuplets, and then three more after the quints.

One of our neighbours has 13 brothers and sisters. She has a couple
parties every year and has the whole family and all their kids.
grandchildren and friends. With the exception of one, the old brother,
they all get along very well.

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On 25/09/2012 11:07 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 24/09/2012 11:57 PM, Cheryl wrote:
>> On 9/24/2012 9:04 PM, sf wrote:
>>> On Mon, 24 Sep 2012 20:47:28 -0400, Cheryl >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> My ex-husbands family grew up with
>>>> powdered milk, but they had 12 kids and it was the 60s/70s.
>>>
>>> 12 kids? Holy mackerel! That was a good catholic/mormon family.
>>>

>> Bingo. Catholic.

>
>
> My friend's mother came from a family that had had 6 kids, then a set of
> quintuplets, and then three more after the quints.


They need a TV really badly, preferably in the master bedroom.

The only family I can recall that was extreme was a family of 18
children. There were, in total, 23 children in the household but it is
thought that 5 were illegitimate children of the elder daughters.
>
> One of our neighbours has 13 brothers and sisters. She has a couple
> parties every year and has the whole family and all their kids.
> grandchildren and friends. With the exception of one, the old brother,
> they all get along very well.
>

Large families generally do. They have to, they don't have a choice.

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On Mon, 24 Sep 2012 23:59:47 -0400, "Somebody" >
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> > On Mon, 24 Sep 2012 20:47:28 -0400, Cheryl >
> > wrote:
> >
> >> My ex-husbands family grew up with
> >> powdered milk, but they had 12 kids and it was the 60s/70s.

> >
> > 12 kids? Holy mackerel! That was a good catholic/mormon family.

>
> my dad came from a family of 12, and one of those 12 had 12. My grandmother
> had 56 grandchildren! (yes, they were farmers and catholic.)
>

56 makes a fun reunion for cousins, that's for sure!

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> >> Are tomatoes warm-blooded or cold-blooded?

> >
> > If you're going to anthropomorphize them, I vote for cold-blooded
> > because they need warmth to grow and produce.

>
>
> the squirrels around here are cold-blooded. And getting kind of bold. They
> seem to be pairing up and going kinda nuts... The vinegar soaked socks do
> seem to be keeping them from the tomatoes.
>

Have you ever figured out how that works? Does it confuse their sense
of smell or what?

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