Ed Pawlowski wrote:

> What is a native Canadian called?
> Indigenous Canadians (also known as Aboriginal Canadians or First
> Peoples) are the indigenous peoples within the boundaries of Canada.
> They comprise the First Nations, Inuit and Métis.

And Inuit are Eskimos, so I was close.

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On 2021-04-23 5:54 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
> On 4/23/2021 4:23 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2021-04-23 3:28 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I encountered a number of black people who were racists when I lived
>>> in Tennessee (Memphis).Â* In the 1990's there was an older woman named
>>> Pinkie who worked at the breakfast/lunch counter at McLemore's market
>>> who was downright rude to me all the time.Â* Her co-worker Louanne
>>> (also black) was not.
>>
>>
>> Now we have a significant black population, most of which are
>> immigrants from the Caribbean. A lot of them have a chip on their
>> shoulder about slavery, though the slavery of their ancestors several
>> generations happened in their home country.
>>
>> If you want to see real racism, go to an Indian reserve. You are
>> guaranteed to hear a rant about residential schools and how you stole
>> theirÂ* land.
>
> Despite all the rhetoric, I refuse to feel "guilty" or take any sort of
> blame for something that happened centuries before I was born.Â* I have
> no idea whether or not the first McQuown's who arrived in the US in 1680
> forced "Indians" off their land in Pennsylvania.Â* They were given a land
> grant by William Penn.Â* I don't know if there were still natives living
> there or not.Â* Maybe they lived side by side in harmony.Â* I wasn't
> there.Â* I do know none of my ancesors owned slaves of any race.
>
> The McQuown's were caught up in a religious war back in Scotland and
> were captured and transported as indentured servants.Â* It was pure luck
> the captain of the ship died and the man who assumed command was
> friendly towards the Scots.Â* He dropped them off in Amboy, NJ, rather
> than handing them over to plantation owners in Virginia.
>
> It bugs me that people try to tar all white people with the same brush.
> It simply isn't true.
>

Not all slaves were black. Not all slave owners were white.
No one seems to want to acknowledge that the slave trade was enabled by
Africans who waged war on their neighbours and sold the vanquished into
slavery.

On 4/23/2021 6:58 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
....
> Not all slaves were black. Not all slave owners were white.
> No one seems to want to acknowledge that the slave trade was enabled by
> Africans who waged war on their neighbours and sold the vanquished into
> slavery.
>
>
I've never owned a slave so the Black people that want
reparations can get in line, right behind the everyone
else with their hand out.
--
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On 2021-04-23 6:33 p.m., Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 4/23/2021 6:05 PM, Dr. Bruce wrote:
>> On 23 Apr 2021 20:29:11 GMT, "Dr. Bruce" >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Are Canadian Indians called Eskimos?
>>
>> 'Canadian Indians'? You're a ****tard.
>>
>
>
> What is a native Canadian called?
> Indigenous Canadians (also known as Aboriginal Canadians or First
> Peoples) are the indigenous peoples within the boundaries of Canada.
> They comprise the First Nations, Inuit and Métis.

It depends on the year and the source. They were Indians for a long
time, then more politely referred to as native, then indigenous. The
most common these days is First Nation, playing on the suggestion that
they were actually real nations with established boarders. If they were
really nations there would be a small number of them, not the 634 that
are recognized.

One of the latest unacceptable names is Eskimo. Some people consider it
to be a pejorative, apparently having some negative connotation. White
people get the blame for it, but it was the name that the natives of the
north called them.

On Friday, April 23, 2021 at 5:33:51 PM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 4/23/2021 6:05 PM, Dr. Bruce wrote:
> > On 23 Apr 2021 20:29:11 GMT, "Dr. Bruce" >
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Are Canadian Indians called Eskimos?
>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shq0...BCn 4eHunIGxr
FZ, a person of Greek ancestry, poked fun at racial stereotypes, but in
a non-mean-spirited way.
> >
> > 'Canadian Indians'? You're a ****tard.
> >
> What is a native Canadian called?
>
A Canadian. Native just means you were born there. I am a native of
the USA.
>
> Indigenous Canadians (also known as Aboriginal Canadians or First
> Peoples) are the indigenous peoples within the boundaries of Canada.
> They comprise the First Nations, Inuit and Métis.
>
I'm less bothered by folks not calling the indigenous folks by their preferred
terms than whether the governments of the USA and Canada honor their
treaty rights.
https://www.pri.org/stories/2021-04-...t-hunting-case
>
--Bryan

On Friday, April 23, 2021 at 12:52:32 PM UTC-10, Dr. Bruce wrote:
> cshenk wrote:
>
> > Sqwertz wrote:
> >
> > > On Fri, 23 Apr 2021 16:23:28 -0400, Dave Smith wrote:
> > >
> > > > Now we have a significant black population, most of which are
> > > > immigrants from the Caribbean. A lot of them have a chip on their
> > > > shoulder about slavery, though the slavery of their ancestors
> > > > several generations happened in their home country.
> > >
> > > 25X More slaves were taken from Africa to the Caribbean and South
> > > America than to the U.S. Yet the U.S. takes, by far, the biggest
> > > blame for slavery.
> > >
> > > Watch the slave ships arrive to the Americas in a fast forward
> > > real-time diagram he
> > >
> > >
> >
> http://www.slate.com/articles/life/t...ave_trade.html
> > >
> > > -sw
> >
> > Actually, North America is less than 4% of it all.
> There are still black slaves working in the Amazon distribution center.
> --
> The real Dr. Bruce posts with uni-berlin.de - individual.net

White slaves too. Amazon is an equal-opportunity slaver.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ArD5KjFOoH4

On Friday, April 23, 2021 at 6:07:56 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
> On Friday, April 23, 2021 at 12:52:32 PM UTC-10, Dr. Bruce wrote:
> > cshenk wrote:
> >
> > > Sqwertz wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Fri, 23 Apr 2021 16:23:28 -0400, Dave Smith wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Now we have a significant black population, most of which are
> > > > > immigrants from the Caribbean. A lot of them have a chip on their
> > > > > shoulder about slavery, though the slavery of their ancestors
> > > > > several generations happened in their home country.
> > > >
> > > > 25X More slaves were taken from Africa to the Caribbean and South
> > > > America than to the U.S. Yet the U.S. takes, by far, the biggest
> > > > blame for slavery.
> > > >
> > > > Watch the slave ships arrive to the Americas in a fast forward
> > > > real-time diagram he
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > http://www.slate.com/articles/life/t...ave_trade.html
> > > >
> > > > -sw
> > >
> > > Actually, North America is less than 4% of it all.
> > There are still black slaves working in the Amazon distribution center.
> > --
> > The real Dr. Bruce posts with uni-berlin.de - individual.net
> White slaves too. Amazon is an equal-opportunity slaver.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ArD5KjFOoH4
>
Shitty, exploitative labor practices are *far* different than chattel slavery.
>
--Bryan

On 4/23/2021 5:54 PM, jmcquown wrote:

>
> Despite all the rhetoric, I refuse to feel "guilty" or take any sort of
> blame for something that happened centuries before I was born.Â* I have
> no idea whether or not the first McQuown's who arrived in the US in 1680
> forced "Indians" off their land in Pennsylvania.Â* They were given a land
> grant by William Penn.Â* I don't know if there were still natives living
> there or not.Â* Maybe they lived side by side in harmony.Â* I wasn't
> there.Â* I do know none of my ancesors owned slaves of any race.
>
> The McQuown's were caught up in a religious war back in Scotland and
> were captured and transported as indentured servants.Â* It was pure luck
> the captain of the ship died and the man who assumed command was
> friendly towards the Scots.Â* He dropped them off in Amboy, NJ, rather
> than handing them over to plantation owners in Virginia.
>
> It bugs me that people try to tar all white people with the same brush.
> It simply isn't true.
>
> Jill

I have no guilt either. Sure, slavery was wrong but don't blame me. My
grandparents came from Poland in the 1890s and had nothing to do with it.

There is a reparations bill in Congress but I see no obligation to
contribute to it. The money for reparations should come from the people
that sold other humans into slavery.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-53444752

My great-grandfather, Nwaubani Ogogo Oriaku, was what I prefer to call a
businessman, from the Igbo ethnic group of south-eastern Nigeria. He
dealt in a number of goods, including tobacco and palm produce. He also
sold human beings.

On 4/23/2021 6:58 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2021-04-23 5:54 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
>> On 4/23/2021 4:23 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>> On 2021-04-23 3:28 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I encountered a number of black people who were racists when I lived
>>>> in Tennessee (Memphis).Â* In the 1990's there was an older woman
>>>> named Pinkie who worked at the breakfast/lunch counter at McLemore's
>>>> market who was downright rude to me all the time.Â* Her co-worker
>>>> Louanne (also black) was not.
>>>
>>>
>>> Now we have a significant black population, most of which are
>>> immigrants from the Caribbean. A lot of them have a chip on their
>>> shoulder about slavery, though the slavery of their ancestors several
>>> generations happened in their home country.
>>>
>>> If you want to see real racism, go to an Indian reserve. You are
>>> guaranteed to hear a rant about residential schools and how you stole
>>> theirÂ* land.
>>
>> Despite all the rhetoric, I refuse to feel "guilty" or take any sort
>> of blame for something that happened centuries before I was born.Â* I
>> have no idea whether or not the first McQuown's who arrived in the US
>> in 1680 forced "Indians" off their land in Pennsylvania.Â* They were
>> given a land grant by William Penn.Â* I don't know if there were still
>> natives living there or not.Â* Maybe they lived side by side in
>> harmony.Â* I wasn't there.Â* I do know none of my ancesors owned slaves
>> of any race.
>>
>> The McQuown's were caught up in a religious war back in Scotland and
>> were captured and transported as indentured servants.Â* It was pure
>> luck the captain of the ship died and the man who assumed command was
>> friendly towards the Scots.Â* He dropped them off in Amboy, NJ, rather
>> than handing them over to plantation owners in Virginia.
>>
>> It bugs me that people try to tar all white people with the same
>> brush. It simply isn't true.
>>
>
> Not all slaves were black. Not all slave owners were white.
> No one seems to want to acknowledge that the slave trade was enabled by
> Africans who waged war on their neighbours and sold the vanquished into
> slavery.
>
>
I think most of us know it but some don't believe it. Even esteemed Dr.
Henry Louis Gates, Jr., a known black historian who hosts 'Finding Your
Roots' on PBS, acknowledges African tribes were highly complicit in the
slave trade.

That's a cool TV show, by the way. New episodes have been airing this
Spring. The word "roots" in the series doesn't connotate black. We all
have family roots.

Last month they traced some ancestry of a couple of people that were of
Irish descent and the prejudice they encountered when they did emigrate
to North America looking for a better life. "No Irish Apply" signs were
everywhere.

Jill

On 4/23/2021 7:15 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 4/23/2021 5:54 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>
>>
>> Despite all the rhetoric, I refuse to feel "guilty" or take any sort
>> of blame for something that happened centuries before I was born.Â* I
>> have no idea whether or not the first McQuown's who arrived in the US
>> in 1680 forced "Indians" off their land in Pennsylvania.Â* They were
>> given a land grant by William Penn.Â* I don't know if there were still
>> natives living there or not.Â* Maybe they lived side by side in
>> harmony.Â* I wasn't there.Â* I do know none of my ancesors owned slaves
>> of any race.
>>
>> The McQuown's were caught up in a religious war back in Scotland and
>> were captured and transported as indentured servants.Â* It was pure
>> luck the captain of the ship died and the man who assumed command was
>> friendly towards the Scots.Â* He dropped them off in Amboy, NJ, rather
>> than handing them over to plantation owners in Virginia.
>>
>> It bugs me that people try to tar all white people with the same
>> brush. It simply isn't true.
>>
>> Jill
>
> I have no guilt either.Â* Sure, slavery was wrong but don't blame me.Â* My
> grandparents came from Poland in the 1890s and had nothing to do with it.
>
My maternal Scottish grandparents didn't arrive here until 1923. They
had nothing to do with it, either.

> There is a reparations bill in Congress but I see no obligation to
> contribute to it.Â* The money for reparations should come from the people
> that sold other humans into slavery.
>
The reparations bill expects us to pay for it. I'm sorry, I was not
complicit. My family was not complicit. But even if they had been,
what's it got to do with me? How do you figure my giving money is going
to magically make things any better?

> https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-53444752
>
>"My great-grandfather, Nwaubani Ogogo Oriaku, was what I prefer to call a
> businessman, from the Igbo ethnic group of south-eastern Nigeria. He
> dealt in a number of goods, including tobacco and palm produce. He also
> sold human beings."

I'm not sure what reparations is supposed to accomplish. Hand out money
and suddenly everyone will get along? All will be forgotten? Sorry, I
don't think so.

Jill

On 4/23/2021 7:07 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2021-04-23 6:33 p.m., Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> On 4/23/2021 6:05 PM, Dr. Bruce wrote:
>>> On 23 Apr 2021 20:29:11 GMT, "Dr. Bruce" >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Are Canadian Indians called Eskimos?
>>>
>>> 'Canadian Indians'? You're a ****tard.
>>>
>>
>>
>> What is a native Canadian called?
>> Indigenous Canadians (also known as Aboriginal Canadians or First
>> Peoples) are the indigenous peoples within the boundaries of Canada.
>> They comprise the First Nations, Inuit and Métis.
>
> It depends on the year and the source. They were Indians for a long
> time, then more politely referred to as native, then indigenous. The
> most common these days is First Nation, playing on the suggestion that
> they were actually real nations with established boarders.Â* If they were
> really nations there would be a small number of them, not the 634 that
> are recognized.
>
> One of the latest unacceptable names is Eskimo. Some people consider it
> to be a pejorative, apparently having some negative connotation. White
> people get the blame for it, but it was the name that the natives of the
> north called them.

I've heard more black people use the N-word than I've ever heard whites.
Go figure.

Jill

On 2021-04-23 7:48 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
> On 4/23/2021 7:15 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

>> "My great-grandfather, Nwaubani Ogogo Oriaku, was what I prefer to
>> call a businessman, from the Igbo ethnic group of south-eastern
>> Nigeria. He dealt in a number of goods, including tobacco and palm
>> produce. He also sold human beings."
>
> I'm not sure what reparations is supposed to accomplish.Â* Hand out money
> and suddenly everyone will get along?Â* All will be forgotten?Â* Sorry, I
> don't think so.
>

Look at our Truth and Reconcilliation process. It has been going on for
years. They settle with one "first nation" and then there is an issue
with another one of them and the shit hits the fan across the country
and its like they have to start all over again.

Ed Pawlowski wrote:

> My great-grandfather, Nwaubani Ogogo Oriaku, was what I prefer to
> call a businessman, from the Igbo ethnic group of south-eastern
> Nigeria. He dealt in a number of goods, including tobacco and palm
> produce. He also sold human beings.

Some Pole you are then.

--
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On 4/23/2021 7:53 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2021-04-23 7:48 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
>> On 4/23/2021 7:15 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
>>> "My great-grandfather, Nwaubani Ogogo Oriaku, was what I prefer to
>>> call a businessman, from the Igbo ethnic group of south-eastern
>>> Nigeria. He dealt in a number of goods, including tobacco and palm
>>> produce. He also sold human beings."
>>
>> I'm not sure what reparations is supposed to accomplish.Â* Hand out
>> money and suddenly everyone will get along?Â* All will be forgotten?
>> Sorry, I don't think so.
>>
>
> Look at our Truth and Reconcilliation process. It has been going on for
> years. They settle with one "first nation" and then there is an issue
> with another one of them and the shit hits the fan across the country
> and its like they have to start all over again.
>
>
There is no way anyone can agree on a payout of money for people ti
forgive and forget the past. It can't be done.

Jill

jmcquown wrote:

> On 4/23/2021 7:07 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> > On 2021-04-23 6:33 p.m., Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> > > On 4/23/2021 6:05 PM, Dr. Bruce wrote:
> > > > On 23 Apr 2021 20:29:11 GMT, "Dr. Bruce"
> > > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Are Canadian Indians called Eskimos?
> > > >
> > > > 'Canadian Indians'? You're a ****tard.

Trolling the trolls. Love it.

> > > What is a native Canadian called?
> > > Indigenous Canadians (also known as Aboriginal Canadians or First
> > > Peoples) are the indigenous peoples within the boundaries of
> > > Canada. They comprise the First Nations, Inuit and Métis.
> >
> > It depends on the year and the source. They were Indians for a long
> > time, then more politely referred to as native, then indigenous.
> > The most common these days is First Nation, playing on the
> > suggestion that they were actually real nations with established
> > boarders.Â* If they were really nations there would be a small
> > number of them, not the 634 that are recognized.
> >
> > One of the latest unacceptable names is Eskimo. Some people
> > consider it to be a pejorative, apparently having some negative
> > connotation. White people get the blame for it, but it was the
> > name that the natives of the north called them.
>
> I've heard more black people use the N-word than I've ever heard
> whites. Go figure.

That's the same as that people in your age group can call you a biddy,
but young people can't or they'd be agist.

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Dave Smith wrote:

> On 2021-04-23 7:48 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
> > On 4/23/2021 7:15 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
> > > "My great-grandfather, Nwaubani Ogogo Oriaku, was what I prefer
> > > to call a businessman, from the Igbo ethnic group of
> > > south-eastern Nigeria. He dealt in a number of goods, including
> > > tobacco and palm produce. He also sold human beings."
> >
> > I'm not sure what reparations is supposed to accomplish.Â* Hand out
> > money and suddenly everyone will get along?Â* All will be
> > forgotten?Â* Sorry, I don't think so.
> >
> Look at our Truth and Reconcilliation process. It has been going on
> for years. They settle with one "first nation" and then there is an
> issue with another one of them and the shit hits the fan across the
> country and its like they have to start all over again.

I support the Dave Smith doctrine: white people are right and non-white
people have to shut up.

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On 2021-04-23 7:52 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
> On 4/23/2021 7:07 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>> One of the latest unacceptable names is Eskimo. Some people consider
>> it to be a pejorative, apparently having some negative connotation.
>> White people get the blame for it, but it was the name that the
>> natives of the north called them.
>
> I've heard more black people use the N-word than I've ever heard whites.
> Go figure.
>

One might think that if it is so offensive that it can not even be
spoken, that it would be the very last word they would want to use
themselves. Maybe it's tine to realize that the racism is them is just
looking for something to take offense at,

Dr. Bruce wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
>
>> On 4/23/2021 7:07 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>> On 2021-04-23 6:33 p.m., Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>> On 4/23/2021 6:05 PM, Dr. Bruce wrote:
>>>>> On 23 Apr 2021 20:29:11 GMT, "Dr. Bruce"
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Are Canadian Indians called Eskimos?
>>>>>
>>>>> 'Canadian Indians'? You're a ****tard.
>
> Trolling the trolls. Love it.
>
>>>> What is a native Canadian called?
>>>> Indigenous Canadians (also known as Aboriginal Canadians or First
>>>> Peoples) are the indigenous peoples within the boundaries of
>>>> Canada. They comprise the First Nations, Inuit and Métis.
>>>
>>> It depends on the year and the source. They were Indians for a long
>>> time, then more politely referred to as native, then indigenous.
>>> The most common these days is First Nation, playing on the
>>> suggestion that they were actually real nations with established
>>> boarders.Â* If they were really nations there would be a small
>>> number of them, not the 634 that are recognized.
>>>
>>> One of the latest unacceptable names is Eskimo. Some people
>>> consider it to be a pejorative, apparently having some negative
>>> connotation. White people get the blame for it, but it was the
>>> name that the natives of the north called them.
>>
>> I've heard more black people use the N-word than I've ever heard
>> whites. Go figure.
>
> That's the same as that people in your age group can call you a biddy,
> but young people can't or they'd be agist.
>

<*SNIFF*>

Dr. Bruce wrote:
> Dave Smith wrote:
>
>> On 2021-04-23 7:48 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
>>> On 4/23/2021 7:15 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>
>>>> "My great-grandfather, Nwaubani Ogogo Oriaku, was what I prefer
>>>> to call a businessman, from the Igbo ethnic group of
>>>> south-eastern Nigeria. He dealt in a number of goods, including
>>>> tobacco and palm produce. He also sold human beings."
>>>
>>> I'm not sure what reparations is supposed to accomplish.Â* Hand out
>>> money and suddenly everyone will get along?Â* All will be
>>> forgotten?Â* Sorry, I don't think so.
>>>
>> Look at our Truth and Reconcilliation process. It has been going on
>> for years. They settle with one "first nation" and then there is an
>> issue with another one of them and the shit hits the fan across the
>> country and its like they have to start all over again.
>
> I support the Dave Smith doctrine: white people are right and non-white
> people have to shut up.
>

And all of them have to submit to your damn ass sniffing.

Dr. Bruce wrote:
> Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
>> My great-grandfather, Nwaubani Ogogo Oriaku, was what I prefer to
>> call a businessman, from the Igbo ethnic group of south-eastern
>> Nigeria. He dealt in a number of goods, including tobacco and palm
>> produce. He also sold human beings.
>
> Some Pole you are then.
>

<*SNIFF*>

Ed Pawlowski wrote:

> On 4/23/2021 5:54 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>
> >
> > Despite all the rhetoric, I refuse to feel "guilty" or take any
> > sort of blame for something that happened centuries before I was
> > born.Â* I have no idea whether or not the first McQuown's who
> > arrived in the US in 1680 forced "Indians" off their land in
> > Pennsylvania.Â* They were given a land grant by William Penn.Â* I
> > don't know if there were still natives living there or not.Â* Maybe
> > they lived side by side in harmony.Â* I wasn't there.Â* I do know
> > none of my ancesors owned slaves of any race.
> >
> > The McQuown's were caught up in a religious war back in Scotland
> > and were captured and transported as indentured servants.Â* It was
> > pure luck the captain of the ship died and the man who assumed
> > command was friendly towards the Scots.Â* He dropped them off in
> > Amboy, NJ, rather than handing them over to plantation owners in
> > Virginia.
> >
> > It bugs me that people try to tar all white people with the same
> > brush. It simply isn't true.
> >
> > Jill
>
> I have no guilt either. Sure, slavery was wrong but don't blame me.
> My grandparents came from Poland in the 1890s and had nothing to do
> with it.
>
> There is a reparations bill in Congress but I see no obligation to
> contribute to it. The money for reparations should come from the
> people that sold other humans into slavery.
>
> https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-53444752
>
> My great-grandfather, Nwaubani Ogogo Oriaku, was what I prefer to
> call a businessman, from the Igbo ethnic group of south-eastern
> Nigeria. He dealt in a number of goods, including tobacco and palm
> produce. He also sold human beings.

On my fathers side, they arrived fleeing the Kaiser. On Mom's side, no
slave owners though some that married into the main family may have had
some at some point. Mostly NY area. The few in Virginia, were
abolishinists. Were they rich? Actually, fairly well to do on her
side until the 1929 stock crash but no guilt on slave ownership. LOst
80% but the 20% left rode them through find but with no paid servants.

On 4/23/2021 8:39 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2021-04-23 7:52 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
>> On 4/23/2021 7:07 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>> One of the latest unacceptable names is Eskimo. Some people consider
>>> it to be a pejorative, apparently having some negative connotation.
>>> White people get the blame for it, but it was the name that the
>>> natives of the north called them.
>>
>> I've heard more black people use the N-word than I've ever heard
>> whites. Go figure.
>>
>
> One might think that if it is so offensive that it can not even be
> spoken, that it would be the very last word they would want to use
> themselves.Â* Maybe it's tine to realize that the racism is them is just
> looking for something to take offense at,
>
Couple of months ago a black school resource officer (cop) was chasing a
black kid and said "stop you N" and he got fired. If we can't say it,
they should not either.

On Fri, 23 Apr 2021 18:33:44 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

> They comprise the First Nations, Inuit and Métis.

Correct. If you know the particular First Nation, it is better to use the
name in their original language.

For example, when I was educating Pamela about Canadian history &
politics regarding the story of the valley of silver & gold, I always
used 'Ashkinabé' instead of 'Native' or 'Indian' when speaking about the
Anomaly.

Dave Smith wrote:

> On 2021-04-23 6:33 p.m., Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> > On 4/23/2021 6:05 PM, Dr. Bruce wrote:
> > > On 23 Apr 2021 20:29:11 GMT, "Dr. Bruce" >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Are Canadian Indians called Eskimos?
> > >
> > > 'Canadian Indians'? You're a ****tard.
> > >
> >
> >
> > What is a native Canadian called?
> > Indigenous Canadians (also known as Aboriginal Canadians or First
> > Peoples) are the indigenous peoples within the boundaries of
> > Canada. They comprise the First Nations, Inuit and Métis.
>
> It depends on the year and the source. They were Indians for a long
> time, then more politely referred to as native, then indigenous. The
> most common these days is First Nation, playing on the suggestion
> that they were actually real nations with established boarders. If
> they were really nations there would be a small number of them, not
> the 634 that are recognized.
>
> One of the latest unacceptable names is Eskimo. Some people consider
> it to be a pejorative, apparently having some negative connotation.
> White people get the blame for it, but it was the name that the
> natives of the north called them.

My understanding may be flawed but https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eskimo

Tells that some settlement issues in the USA mean Eskimo is used at
times generically but Inuit is generally to be used for the Polar
region ones (and I think the Aleuit?). It doesn't apply outside USA as
it's a legal thing related to Alaska only. The article is a little
flawed now as they are sure Native Americans arrived a lot earlier than
what they say. Perhaps in the severe arctic, they left less tracable
signs?

jmcquown wrote:

> On 4/23/2021 7:07 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> > On 2021-04-23 6:33 p.m., Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> > > On 4/23/2021 6:05 PM, Dr. Bruce wrote:
> > > > On 23 Apr 2021 20:29:11 GMT, "Dr. Bruce"
> > > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Are Canadian Indians called Eskimos?
> > > >
> > > > 'Canadian Indians'? You're a ****tard.
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > What is a native Canadian called?
> > > Indigenous Canadians (also known as Aboriginal Canadians or First
> > > Peoples) are the indigenous peoples within the boundaries of
> > > Canada. They comprise the First Nations, Inuit and Métis.
> >
> > It depends on the year and the source. They were Indians for a long
> > time, then more politely referred to as native, then indigenous.
> > The most common these days is First Nation, playing on the
> > suggestion that they were actually real nations with established
> > boarders.Â* If they were really nations there would be a small
> > number of them, not the 634 that are recognized.
> >
> > One of the latest unacceptable names is Eskimo. Some people
> > consider it to be a pejorative, apparently having some negative
> > connotation. White people get the blame for it, but it was the
> > name that the natives of the north called them.
>
> I've heard more black people use the N-word than I've ever heard
> whites. Go figure.
>
> Jill

So have I. Odd but still unacceptable.

Dave Smith wrote:

> On 2021-04-23 7:52 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
> > On 4/23/2021 7:07 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> > > One of the latest unacceptable names is Eskimo. Some people
> > > consider it to be a pejorative, apparently having some negative
> > > connotation. White people get the blame for it, but it was the
> > > name that the natives of the north called them.
> >
> > I've heard more black people use the N-word than I've ever heard
> > whites. Go figure.
> >
>
> One might think that if it is so offensive that it can not even be
> spoken, that it would be the very last word they would want to use
> themselves. Maybe it's tine to realize that the racism is them is
> just looking for something to take offense at,

I've been told sometimes Black people use it to desensitize themselves
to it. I do not really know.

On 2021-04-23 10:00 p.m., Mike Duffy wrote:
> On Fri, 23 Apr 2021 18:33:44 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
>> They comprise the First Nations, Inuit and Métis.
>
> Correct. If you know the particular First Nation, it is better to use the
> name in their original language.
>
> For example, when I was educating Pamela about Canadian history &
> politics regarding the story of the valley of silver & gold, I always
> used 'Ashkinabé' instead of 'Native' or 'Indian' when speaking about the
> Anomaly.
>
We are all supposed to learn the names of 50 "nations" ? Most people
can't even pronounce any of them, never mind learn them all.

On 2021-04-23 10:05 p.m., cshenk wrote:
> Dave Smith wrote:
>

>> One of the latest unacceptable names is Eskimo. Some people consider
>> it to be a pejorative, apparently having some negative connotation.
>> White people get the blame for it, but it was the name that the
>> natives of the north called them.
>
> My understanding may be flawed but https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eskimo
>
> Tells that some settlement issues in the USA mean Eskimo is used at
> times generically but Inuit is generally to be used for the Polar
> region ones (and I think the Aleuit?). It doesn't apply outside USA as
> it's a legal thing related to Alaska only. The article is a little
> flawed now as they are sure Native Americans arrived a lot earlier than
> what they say. Perhaps in the severe arctic, they left less tracable
> signs?
>

It gets a little more complicated. The Inuit in northern Canada are
descendants of the Thule culture. Before they settled there about 500
years ago there was a similar group of the Dorset culture.

On 2021-04-23 10:16 p.m., cshenk wrote:
> Dave Smith wrote:
>

>> One might think that if it is so offensive that it can not even be
>> spoken, that it would be the very last word they would want to use
>> themselves. Maybe it's tine to realize that the racism is them is
>> just looking for something to take offense at,
>
> I've been told sometimes Black people use it to desensitize themselves
> to it. I do not really know.
>

That is their story so they had better stick to it. I can't use some of
their more offensive comments. It's okay to say mother ****er but I
can't even quote the n word.

On Sat, 24 Apr 2021 02:00:29 +0000, Mike Duffy wrote:

> On Fri, 23 Apr 2021 18:33:44 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
>> They comprise the First Nations, Inuit and Métis.
>
> Correct. If you know the particular First Nation, it is better to use
> the name in their original language.
>
> For example, when I was educating Pamela about Canadian history &
> politics regarding the story of the valley of silver & gold, I always
> used 'Ashkinabé' instead of 'Native' or 'Indian' when speaking about the
> Anomaly.

Sorry, Anishnabai. It's been a while.

dsi1 wrote:


> White slaves too. Amazon is an equal-opportunity slaver.


Except, grasshopper, that even the primarily black "slaves" at the Bessemer, Alabama Amazon distribution center recently voted *against* joining a union - and by a large margin:


https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/09/t...ats-union.html

April 9, 2021

"Amazon workers at a giant warehouse in Alabama voted decisively against forming a union on Friday, squashing the most significant organizing drive in the internet giants history and dealing a crushing blow to labor and Democrats when conditions appeared ripe for them to make advances...

Workers cast 1,798 votes against a union, giving Amazon enough to emphatically defeat the effort. Ballots in favor of a union trailed at 738, fewer than 30 percent of the votes tallied, according to federal officials...

The Retail, Wholesale and Department Store Union had organized around critical themes of supporting Black essential workers in the pandemic. The union estimated that 85 percent of the workers at the Bessemer warehouse were Black...

William and Lavonette Stokes, who started work at the Bessemer warehouse in July, said the union had failed to convince them how it could improve their working conditions. Amazon already provides good benefits, relatively high pay that starts at $15 an hour and opportunities to advance, said the couple, who have five children...

€œAmazon is the only job I know where they pay your health insurance from Day 1,€� Ms. Stokes, 52, said. She added that she had been turned off by how organizers tried to cast the union drive as an extension of the Black Lives Matter movement because most of the workers are Black.

€œThis was not an African-American issue, said Ms. Stokes, who is Black. €œI feel you can work there comfortably without being harassed.€�

In a news conference organized by Amazon on Friday, Mr. Stokes and other workers said they had concerns that they wanted the company to address, like better training and anti-bias coaching for managers.

€œWe just feel like we can do it without the union,€� he said.. €œWhy pay the union to do what we can do ourselves?€�

</>

Ed Pawlowski wrote:

> On 4/23/2021 8:39 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> > On 2021-04-23 7:52 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
> > > On 4/23/2021 7:07 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> > > > One of the latest unacceptable names is Eskimo. Some people
> > > > consider it to be a pejorative, apparently having some
> > > > negative connotation. White people get the blame for it, but
> > > > it was the name that the natives of the north called them.
> > >
> > > I've heard more black people use the N-word than I've ever heard
> > > whites. Go figure.
> > >
> >
> > One might think that if it is so offensive that it can not even be
> > spoken, that it would be the very last word they would want to use
> > themselves.Â* Maybe it's tine to realize that the racism is them is
> > just looking for something to take offense at,
> >
> Couple of months ago a black school resource officer (cop) was
> chasing a black kid and said "stop you N" and he got fired. If we
> can't say it, they should not either.

If it's not offensive between them but is offensive when other colours
say it, that doesn't bother me. Gays can also call each other things
that non gays can't call them.

It's the intention that counts, not the word.

--
The real Dr. Bruce posts with uni-berlin.de - individual.net

Dave Smith wrote:

> On 2021-04-23 10:16 p.m., cshenk wrote:
> > Dave Smith wrote:
> >
>
> > > One might think that if it is so offensive that it can not even be
> > > spoken, that it would be the very last word they would want to use
> > > themselves. Maybe it's tine to realize that the racism is them is
> > > just looking for something to take offense at,
> >
> > I've been told sometimes Black people use it to desensitize
> > themselves to it. I do not really know.
> >
>
> That is their story so they had better stick to it. I can't use some
> of their more offensive comments. It's okay to say mother ****er but
> I can't even quote the n word.

Duh, mother ****er's not racist, just rude.

--
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Mike Duffy wrote:

> On Sat, 24 Apr 2021 02:00:29 +0000, Mike Duffy wrote:
>
> > On Fri, 23 Apr 2021 18:33:44 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> >
> >> They comprise the First Nations, Inuit and Métis.
> >
> > Correct. If you know the particular First Nation, it is better to
> > use the name in their original language.
> >
> > For example, when I was educating Pamela about Canadian history &
> > politics regarding the story of the valley of silver & gold, I
> > always used 'Ashkinabé' instead of 'Native' or 'Indian' when
> > speaking about the Anomaly.
>
> Sorry, Anishnabai. It's been a while.

Trying to sound intelligent and getting it wrong? Typical

--
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Ed Pawlowski wrote:

> I have no guilt either. Sure, slavery was wrong but don't blame me. My
> grandparents came from Poland in the 1890s and had nothing to do with it.
>
> There is a reparations bill in Congress but I see no obligation to
> contribute to it. The money for reparations should come from the people
> that sold other humans into slavery.
>
> https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-53444752
>
> My great-grandfather, Nwaubani Ogogo Oriaku, was what I prefer to call a
> businessman, from the Igbo ethnic group of south-eastern Nigeria. He
> dealt in a number of goods, including tobacco and palm produce. He also
> sold human beings.


People don't know history, until relatively recently (before the Industrial Age) slavery/indentured servitude was *endemic* to most societies...even the Danes:

Danish slave trade

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danish_slave_trade

"The Danish slave trade occurred separately in two different periods: the trade in European slaves during the Viking Age, from the 8th to 10th century; and the Danish role in selling African slaves during the Atlantic slave trade, from the 1600s until a 1792 law to abolish the trade came into effect on 1 January 1803. Slavery continued in the Danish West Indies until July, 1848, when all unfree people in Danish lands were emancipated.

Danish slave trade during the Viking Age

During the Viking Age, thralls (Norse slaves) were an important part of the economy and one of the main reasons for the raids on England where slaves were captured. This practice was largely abolished once Denmark became Christian in the 10th century.

Danish transatlantic slave trade

Trading African slaves was part of the transatlantic slave trade by Denmark-Norway around 1671, when the Danish West India Company was chartered until 1 January 1803 when the 1792 law to abolish the slave trade came into effect. However, an illegal trade in enslaved Africans continued.

Slavery in the Danish West Indies continued until 3 July 1848 when slaves gathered at Frederiksted and demanded their freedom. Fearing a revolt Danish Governor Peter von Scholten issued a proclamation that "all unfree in the Danish West Indies are from today emancipated."

As of 1778, it was estimated annually Dano-Norwegians shipped approximately 3,000 African slaves to the Danish West Indies During the 1720s, many of these African slaves were sourced from the Akan-region Akwamu, Ga-Adangbe in present-day Ghana, with a large number taken to the island of St Jan (now Saint John in the U.S. Virgin Islands), rebelling in 1733 and attempting to found an Akwamu-led nation, including one of its leaders Breffu.The country's ships transported approximately 100,000 African slaves, about 2% of the total number in the early 19th century..."

</>

On Friday, April 23, 2021 at 10:06:59 PM UTC-5, Dr. Bruce wrote:
> Ed Pawlowski wrote:

> > Couple of months ago a black school resource officer (cop) was
> > chasing a black kid and said "stop you N" and he got fired. If we
> > can't say it, they should not either.

> If it's not offensive between them but is offensive when other colours
> say it, that doesn't bother me. Gays can also call each other things
> that non gays can't call them.


So it's okay for Steve Wertz to call you "faggot", then...???

--
Best
Greg

On 2021-04-23 10:57 p.m., Mike Duffy wrote:
> On Sat, 24 Apr 2021 02:00:29 +0000, Mike Duffy wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 23 Apr 2021 18:33:44 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>
>>> They comprise the First Nations, Inuit and Métis.
>>
>> Correct. If you know the particular First Nation, it is better to use
>> the name in their original language.
>>
>> For example, when I was educating Pamela about Canadian history &
>> politics regarding the story of the valley of silver & gold, I always
>> used 'Ashkinabé' instead of 'Native' or 'Indian' when speaking about the
>> Anomaly.
>
> Sorry, Anishnabai. It's been a while.
>


Okay.... back to my comment about people not being able to remember or
pronounce them.

Dr. Bruce wrote:
> Mike Duffy wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 24 Apr 2021 02:00:29 +0000, Mike Duffy wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, 23 Apr 2021 18:33:44 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>
>>>> They comprise the First Nations, Inuit and Métis.
>>>
>>> Correct. If you know the particular First Nation, it is better to
>>> use the name in their original language.
>>>
>>> For example, when I was educating Pamela about Canadian history &
>>> politics regarding the story of the valley of silver & gold, I
>>> always used 'Ashkinabé' instead of 'Native' or 'Indian' when
>>> speaking about the Anomaly.
>>
>> Sorry, Anishnabai. It's been a while.
>
> Trying to sound intelligent and getting it wrong? Typical
>

Relax and have another whiff, master doctor.

Dave Smith wrote:

> On 2021-04-23 10:05 p.m., cshenk wrote:
> > Dave Smith wrote:
> >
>
> > > One of the latest unacceptable names is Eskimo. Some people
> > > consider it to be a pejorative, apparently having some negative
> > > connotation. White people get the blame for it, but it was the
> > > name that the natives of the north called them.
> >
> > My understanding may be flawed but
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eskimo
> >
> > Tells that some settlement issues in the USA mean Eskimo is used at
> > times generically but Inuit is generally to be used for the Polar
> > region ones (and I think the Aleuit?). It doesn't apply outside
> > USA as it's a legal thing related to Alaska only. The article is a
> > little flawed now as they are sure Native Americans arrived a lot
> > earlier than what they say. Perhaps in the severe arctic, they
> > left less tracable signs?
> >
>
> It gets a little more complicated. The Inuit in northern Canada are
> descendants of the Thule culture. Before they settled there about 500
> years ago there was a similar group of the Dorset culture.

Yes, saw that. At one time we called generically all the serious top
nothern set 'Eskimo' but they are various native tribes that span the
globe up there.

On Fri, 23 Apr 2021 21:16:39 -0500, "cshenk"
> wrote:

>Dave Smith wrote:
>
>> On 2021-04-23 7:52 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
>> > On 4/23/2021 7:07 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>> > > One of the latest unacceptable names is Eskimo. Some people
>> > > consider it to be a pejorative, apparently having some negative
>> > > connotation. White people get the blame for it, but it was the
>> > > name that the natives of the north called them.
>> >
>> > I've heard more black people use the N-word than I've ever heard
>> > whites. Go figure.
>> >
>>
>> One might think that if it is so offensive that it can not even be
>> spoken, that it would be the very last word they would want to use
>> themselves. Maybe it's tine to realize that the racism is them is
>> just looking for something to take offense at,
>
>I've been told sometimes Black people use it to desensitize themselves
>to it. I do not really know.

ROTFL.................