On the news there was a report of cooking with sesame seed and rice bran
oil to reduce blood pressure and cholesterol, but it did not compare other
oils. Do they think those are better ?

Greg

Sqwertz > wrote:
> On Sat, 29 Sep 2012 03:38:26 +0000 (UTC), gregz wrote:
>
>> On the news there was a report of cooking with sesame seed and rice bran
>> oil to reduce blood pressure and cholesterol, but it did not compare other
>> oils. Do they think those are better ?
>
> You watched the un-named news report - you tell us!
>

Tv Channel kdka Pittsburgh.

I had. To search recent news was in huffington. Perhaps it's because the
test was done in india.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1900551.html

Greg

> <boggle>
>
> I tell you want, that whole "bacon shortage" thing was a farce, too.
> And I'm sick of hearing every other news agency repeat it. Don't
> believe anything you hear on the news. They're just out to manipulate
> you. You are not their customer, but rather you are the product being
> sold.
>
> -sw

"gregz" > wrote in message
...
> Sqwertz > wrote:
>> On Sat, 29 Sep 2012 03:38:26 +0000 (UTC), gregz wrote:
>>
>>> On the news there was a report of cooking with sesame seed and rice bran
>>> oil to reduce blood pressure and cholesterol, but it did not compare
>>> other
>>> oils. Do they think those are better ?
>>
>> You watched the un-named news report - you tell us!
>>
>
> Tv Channel kdka Pittsburgh.
>
> I had. To search recent news was in huffington. Perhaps it's because the
> test was done in india.
>
> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1900551.html

I am to the point now where I don't believe anything said about food on the
news unless of course it is a recall or something.

They said eggs were bad. Then good. Then on and on.

Margarine was better! No! Butter was better. Back and forth on that.

During the 80's they touted oat bran. Then they said the studies were
flawed.

Who knows? Eat what you like.

"John John" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 28 Sep 2012 23:20:06 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>"gregz" > wrote in message
...
>>> Sqwertz > wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 29 Sep 2012 03:38:26 +0000 (UTC), gregz wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On the news there was a report of cooking with sesame seed and rice
>>>>> bran
>>>>> oil to reduce blood pressure and cholesterol, but it did not compare
>>>>> other
>>>>> oils. Do they think those are better ?
>>>>
>>>> You watched the un-named news report - you tell us!
>>>>
>>>
>>> Tv Channel kdka Pittsburgh.
>>>
>>> I had. To search recent news was in huffington. Perhaps it's because the
>>> test was done in india.
>>>
>>> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1900551.html
>>
>>I am to the point now where I don't believe anything said about food on
>>the
>>news unless of course it is a recall or something.
>>
>>They said eggs were bad. Then good. Then on and on.
>>
>>Margarine was better! No! Butter was better. Back and forth on that.
>>
>>During the 80's they touted oat bran. Then they said the studies were
>>flawed.
>>
>>Who knows? Eat what you like.
>
> I think saturated fats have always been bad.
>

I don't think that is true for all saturated fats.

"John John" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 28 Sep 2012 23:20:06 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>"gregz" > wrote in message
...
>>> Sqwertz > wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 29 Sep 2012 03:38:26 +0000 (UTC), gregz wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On the news there was a report of cooking with sesame seed and rice
>>>>> bran
>>>>> oil to reduce blood pressure and cholesterol, but it did not compare
>>>>> other
>>>>> oils. Do they think those are better ?
>>>>
>>>> You watched the un-named news report - you tell us!
>>>>
>>>
>>> Tv Channel kdka Pittsburgh.
>>>
>>> I had. To search recent news was in huffington. Perhaps it's because the
>>> test was done in india.
>>>
>>> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1900551.html
>>
>>I am to the point now where I don't believe anything said about food on
>>the
>>news unless of course it is a recall or something.
>>
>>They said eggs were bad. Then good. Then on and on.
>>
>>Margarine was better! No! Butter was better. Back and forth on that.
>>
>>During the 80's they touted oat bran. Then they said the studies were
>>flawed.
>>
>>Who knows? Eat what you like.
>
> I think saturated fats have always been bad.

Prolly but I don't eat enough of those to worry about it.

"John John" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 28 Sep 2012 23:47:38 -0700, "Reggie" >
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"John John" > wrote in message
. ..
>>> On Fri, 28 Sep 2012 23:20:06 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>"gregz" > wrote in message
...
>>>>> Sqwertz > wrote:
>>>>>> On Sat, 29 Sep 2012 03:38:26 +0000 (UTC), gregz wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On the news there was a report of cooking with sesame seed and rice
>>>>>>> bran
>>>>>>> oil to reduce blood pressure and cholesterol, but it did not compare
>>>>>>> other
>>>>>>> oils. Do they think those are better ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You watched the un-named news report - you tell us!
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Tv Channel kdka Pittsburgh.
>>>>>
>>>>> I had. To search recent news was in huffington. Perhaps it's because
>>>>> the
>>>>> test was done in india.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1900551.html
>>>>
>>>>I am to the point now where I don't believe anything said about food on
>>>>the
>>>>news unless of course it is a recall or something.
>>>>
>>>>They said eggs were bad. Then good. Then on and on.
>>>>
>>>>Margarine was better! No! Butter was better. Back and forth on that.
>>>>
>>>>During the 80's they touted oat bran. Then they said the studies were
>>>>flawed.
>>>>
>>>>Who knows? Eat what you like.
>>>
>>> I think saturated fats have always been bad.
>>>
>>
>>I don't think that is true for all saturated fats.
>
> Which ones are ok?

Coconut oil.

"Julie Bove" > wrote in message
...

>
> They said eggs were bad. Then good. Then on and on.

Recent reports say eggs are bad.
http://articles.latimes.com/2012/aug...oking-20120814

the National Heart Blood and Lung Institute recommends that to limit their
risk of developing heart disease, Americans limit their cholesterol intake
to no more than 300 mg per day (an egg yolk has just over 200 mg), and eat
no more than four whole eggs weekly, including those in baked goods or
processed foods. Those who already have heart disease, diabetes or high
LDL-cholesterol, or who have had a stroke, should limit their cholesterol to
less than 200 mg per day.

"Reggie" > wrote in message
...

>> I think saturated fats have always been bad.
>>
>
> I don't think that is true for all saturated fats.


all saturated fats are bad. As are all trans fats.

"The Other Guy" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 29 Sep 2012 16:46:01 +1000, John John >
> wrote:
>
>
>>I think saturated fats have always been bad.
>
> For some, NOT for others.
>
> I ate saturated fats most of my life, and my cholesterol is just fine
> without any medication at all.
>
> I have a friend that has eaten 'healthy' ALL his life, and his is thru
> the roof (over 400) WHILE he's on medication!

400? Yikes!

My mom and dad had "meat and potatoes" just about every meal. And plentiful
eggs, yet their cholesterol was fine too... But I wouldn't recommend it. I
think genetics plays a big role.

"Julie Bove" > wrote in message
...
>> Which ones are ok?
>
> Coconut oil.


egads! Even Mitt Romney would not make a joke like that.

"Julie Bove" > wrote in message
...
> Coconut oil.

Olive Oil and Canola oils are rich in monosaturated and polyunsaturated, so
relatively healthy... I'd only use coconut oil if I was stuck on Gilligan's
Island.

On Sat, 29 Sep 2012 07:51:45 -0400, "Somebody" > wrote:

>"Julie Bove" > wrote in message
...
>
>>
>> They said eggs were bad. Then good. Then on and on.
>
>Recent reports say eggs are bad.
>http://articles.latimes.com/2012/aug...oking-20120814

Aside from being one of the more seriously flawed studies - along with
the misleading headline-
http://www.shape.com/blogs/weight-lo...gs-bad-smoking

that study is *so* mid-August.
http://www.zest.co.uk/nutrition/why-...-you/2642.html

Jim

On 29/09/2012 7:59 AM, Somebody wrote:
> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
> ...
>>> Which ones are ok?
>>
>> Coconut oil.
>
>
> egads! Even Mitt Romney would not make a joke like that.
>
>

The information booklet I got in cardiac rehab suggested eating lots of
fruit and vegetables, but in capitals it says ...NOT COCONUT. It is
apparently very high in cholesterol. When I asked about the claims of
health benefits of the good cholesterol it was suggested that is hype
from the people selling it. IN my situation, I think I am better off
following the advice of the health professionals.

"Jim Elbrecht" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 29 Sep 2012 07:51:45 -0400, "Somebody" > wrote:
>
>>"Julie Bove" > wrote in message
...
>>
>>>
>>> They said eggs were bad. Then good. Then on and on.
>>
>>Recent reports say eggs are bad.
>>http://articles.latimes.com/2012/aug...oking-20120814
>
> Aside from being one of the more seriously flawed studies - along with
> the misleading headline-
> http://www.shape.com/blogs/weight-lo...gs-bad-smoking
>
> that study is *so* mid-August.
> http://www.zest.co.uk/nutrition/why-...-you/2642.html
>
> Jim


well, I don't like the idea of contributing to factory farming, and the
cheap eggs we get are because of inhumanely treated chickens. If I buy some
again, it will be the cage free. I used to get egg beaters, but they have a
kinda plasticky taste. And must be from mass produced hen factories. I've
not seen "cage free" egg beaters. Maybe someday.

okay, I glanced at the article. Everything in moderation. Including
factory farming?

Thanks. Now I am confused and conflicted again about eggs.

On Sat, 29 Sep 2012 09:01:34 -0400, "Somebody" > wrote:

>"Jim Elbrecht" > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Sat, 29 Sep 2012 07:51:45 -0400, "Somebody" > wrote:
>>
>>>"Julie Bove" > wrote in message
...
>>>
>>>>
>>>> They said eggs were bad. Then good. Then on and on.
>>>
>>>Recent reports say eggs are bad.
>>>http://articles.latimes.com/2012/aug...oking-20120814
>>
>> Aside from being one of the more seriously flawed studies - along with
>> the misleading headline-
>> http://www.shape.com/blogs/weight-lo...gs-bad-smoking
>>
>> that study is *so* mid-August.
>> http://www.zest.co.uk/nutrition/why-...-you/2642.html
>>
>> Jim
>
>
>well, I don't like the idea of contributing to factory farming, and the
>cheap eggs we get are because of inhumanely treated chickens. If I buy some
>again, it will be the cage free.

You might want to read up on what 'cage free' really means. [or
doesn't] If you really want to buy eggs from happy hens, stop at a
roadside stand and ask to see the henhouse.


-snip-
>
>Thanks. Now I am confused and conflicted again about eggs.
>

That is the plan-- just keep buying newspapers-- that's all we ask.

Jim

"Jim Elbrecht" > wrote in message
news
>
> You might want to read up on what 'cage free' really means. [or
> doesn't] If you really want to buy eggs from happy hens, stop at a
> roadside stand and ask to see the henhouse.

yeah, I've heard even cage free doesn't always mean humane. But at least it
sounds better.


>>Thanks. Now I am confused and conflicted again about eggs.
>>
>
> That is the plan-- just keep buying newspapers-- that's all we ask.
>
> Jim

I haven't bought a newspaper in about 15 years! Sunday ed. here is $3. Who
pays that? Gallon of milk is cheaper!

On Sep 29, 5:08*am, John John > wrote:
> On Sat, 29 Sep 2012 00:50:41 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > wrote:
>
> >"John John" > wrote in message
> .. .
> >> On Fri, 28 Sep 2012 23:47:38 -0700, "Reggie" >
> >> wrote:
>
> >>>"John John" > wrote in message
> ...
> >>>> On Fri, 28 Sep 2012 23:20:06 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> >>>> > wrote:
>
> >>>>>"gregz" > wrote in message
> ...
> >>>>>> Sqwertz > wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Sat, 29 Sep 2012 03:38:26 +0000 (UTC), gregz wrote:
>
> >>>>>>>> On the news there was a report of cooking with sesame seed and rice
> >>>>>>>> bran
> >>>>>>>> oil to reduce blood pressure and cholesterol, but it did not compare
> >>>>>>>> other
> >>>>>>>> oils. Do they think those are better ?
>
> >>>>>>> You watched the un-named news report - you tell us!
>
> >>>>>> Tv Channel kdka Pittsburgh.
>
> >>>>>> I had. To search recent news was in huffington. Perhaps it's because
> >>>>>> the
> >>>>>> test was done in india.
>
> >>>>>>http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...an-oil-blood-p...
>
> >>>>>I am to the point now where I don't believe anything said about food on
> >>>>>the
> >>>>>news unless of course it is a recall or something.
>
> >>>>>They said eggs were bad. *Then good. *Then on and on.
>
> >>>>>Margarine was better! *No! *Butter was better. *Back and forth on that.
>
> >>>>>During the 80's they touted oat bran. *Then they said the studies were
> >>>>>flawed.
>
> >>>>>Who knows? *Eat what you like.
>
> >>>> I think saturated fats have always been bad.
>
> >>>I don't think that is true for all saturated fats.
>
> >> Which ones are ok?
>
> >Coconut oil.
>
> What about this quote fromhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coconut_oil:
>
> "As with dairy and meat products, the United States Food and Drug
> Administration, World Health Organization, International College of
> Nutrition, United States Department of Health and Human Services,
> American Dietetic Association, American Heart Association, British
> National Health Service, and Dietitians of Canada recommend limiting
> the consumption of significant amounts of coconut oil due to its high
> levels of saturated fat.

Julie doesn't know a lot about anything. She is just as likely to be
wrong as right. It's a crapshoot.

The really good fats are olive oil, and the newfangled "high-oleic"
oils, especially high-oleic sunflower oil, and shea butter. The
second tier are the good oils; pecan, avocado, cashew, canola and
maybe a couple of others. The neutral fats are cocoa butter and
peanut oil. Some folks would lump coconut and palm kernel in as
neutral, but I wouldn't. I'd put them in the somewhat bad category
with animal fats. Below that are the bad fats; palm fruit oil
(usually just called palm oil), and the high polyunsaturate oils like
soy, corn, safflower, cottonseed, etc. Then there are the villainous
partially hydrogenated fats, which are unfit for consumption.

There is another type of fatty acid, Omega-3. This is the stuff in
wild caught salmon, sardines, etc. It is great in moderation, but bad
in excess.

There are a few other categories as well, but I doubt anyone wants me
to go into more detail.
>
> --
> John

--Bryan

On 29/09/2012 9:25 AM, Somebody wrote:

> I haven't bought a newspaper in about 15 years! Sunday ed. here is $3. Who
> pays that? Gallon of milk is cheaper!
>


I started subscribing to a newspaper a few years ago. I like read the
newspaper and do the crossword and other games. I used to do it on my
coffee breaks. After I retired I still went out for coffee but I got
tired of walking to the nearest newspaper box and paying as small
fortune for a paper, or worse, finding the box empty. I ended up
subscribing, and it is about half the cost.

"Somebody" > wrote in message ...
> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Coconut oil.
>
> Olive Oil and Canola oils are rich in monosaturated and polyunsaturated,
> so relatively healthy... I'd only use coconut oil if I was stuck on
> Gilligan's Island.
>
>

Ginger, or Maryann?

"John John" > wrote in message
news
> On Sat, 29 Sep 2012 00:50:41 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>"John John" > wrote in message
. ..
>>> On Fri, 28 Sep 2012 23:47:38 -0700, "Reggie" >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>"John John" > wrote in message
m...
>>>>> On Fri, 28 Sep 2012 23:20:06 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"gregz" > wrote in message
...
>>>>>>> Sqwertz > wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Sat, 29 Sep 2012 03:38:26 +0000 (UTC), gregz wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On the news there was a report of cooking with sesame seed and
>>>>>>>>> rice
>>>>>>>>> bran
>>>>>>>>> oil to reduce blood pressure and cholesterol, but it did not
>>>>>>>>> compare
>>>>>>>>> other
>>>>>>>>> oils. Do they think those are better ?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You watched the un-named news report - you tell us!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Tv Channel kdka Pittsburgh.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I had. To search recent news was in huffington. Perhaps it's because
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> test was done in india.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1900551.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I am to the point now where I don't believe anything said about food
>>>>>>on
>>>>>>the
>>>>>>news unless of course it is a recall or something.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>They said eggs were bad. Then good. Then on and on.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Margarine was better! No! Butter was better. Back and forth on
>>>>>>that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>During the 80's they touted oat bran. Then they said the studies were
>>>>>>flawed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Who knows? Eat what you like.
>>>>>
>>>>> I think saturated fats have always been bad.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I don't think that is true for all saturated fats.
>>>
>>> Which ones are ok?
>>
>>Coconut oil.
>
> What about this quote from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coconut_oil:
>
> "As with dairy and meat products, the United States Food and Drug
> Administration, World Health Organization, International College of
> Nutrition, United States Department of Health and Human Services,
> American Dietetic Association, American Heart Association, British
> National Health Service, and Dietitians of Canada recommend limiting
> the consumption of significant amounts of coconut oil due to its high
> levels of saturated fat.

It's wrong.

"Reggie" > wrote in message
...
>
> "John John" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Fri, 28 Sep 2012 23:20:06 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"gregz" > wrote in message
...
>>>> Sqwertz > wrote:
>>>>> On Sat, 29 Sep 2012 03:38:26 +0000 (UTC), gregz wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On the news there was a report of cooking with sesame seed and rice
>>>>>> bran
>>>>>> oil to reduce blood pressure and cholesterol, but it did not compare
>>>>>> other
>>>>>> oils. Do they think those are better ?
>>>>>
>>>>> You watched the un-named news report - you tell us!
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Tv Channel kdka Pittsburgh.
>>>>
>>>> I had. To search recent news was in huffington. Perhaps it's because
>>>> the
>>>> test was done in india.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1900551.html
>>>
>>>I am to the point now where I don't believe anything said about food on
>>>the
>>>news unless of course it is a recall or something.
>>>
>>>They said eggs were bad. Then good. Then on and on.
>>>
>>>Margarine was better! No! Butter was better. Back and forth on that.
>>>
>>>During the 80's they touted oat bran. Then they said the studies were
>>>flawed.
>>>
>>>Who knows? Eat what you like.
>>
>> I think saturated fats have always been bad.
>>
>
> I don't think that is true for all saturated fats.
http://www.menshealth.com/health/saturated-fat

gregz wrote:
>
>On the news there was a report of cooking with sesame seed and rice bran
>oil to reduce blood pressure and cholesterol, but it did not compare other
>oils. Do they think those are better ?

Better than what, sex?

Cholesterol and blood pressure are separate entities. Typical
vegetable oils contain no cholesterol yet their excess consumption can
contribute to excessively high BP. And some people can consume all
the high cholesterol foods they desire and can have low cholesterol
levels and still have high BP. I recommend you engage in lots of sex
and use whichever oils you like as a lubricant.

"Reggie" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Somebody" > wrote in message ...
>> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Coconut oil.
>>
>> Olive Oil and Canola oils are rich in monosaturated and polyunsaturated,
>> so relatively healthy... I'd only use coconut oil if I was stuck on
>> Gilligan's Island.
>>
>>
>
> Ginger, or Maryann?

both!

Though Ginger is a bit stuck up and not very spontaneous... if it had to be
monogamous, MaryAnn. She's got spunk. The good kind of spunk.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xY18MqdeFOM

On Sep 29, 5:05*am, "Somebody" > wrote:
> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
>
> ...
>
> > Coconut oil.
>
> Olive Oil and Canola oils are rich in monosaturated and polyunsaturated, so
> relatively healthy... *I'd only use coconut oil if I was stuck on Gilligan's
> Island.

I agree...Mary Ann and coconut oil would go good together.

On Sep 29, 6:25*am, "Somebody" > wrote:
> "Jim Elbrecht" > wrote in message
>
> news >
>
>
> > You might want to read up on what 'cage free' really means. [or
> > doesn't] * *If you really want to buy eggs from happy hens, stop at a
> > roadside stand and ask to see the henhouse.
>
> yeah, I've heard even cage free doesn't always mean humane. *But at least it
> sounds better.
>
> >>Thanks. *Now I am confused and conflicted again about eggs.
>
> > That is the plan-- just keep buying newspapers-- that's all we ask.
>
> > Jim
>
> I haven't bought a newspaper in about 15 years! *Sunday ed. here is $3. *Who
> pays that? *Gallon of milk is cheaper!

Regular or Organic?

On Sep 29, 2:13*pm, "Somebody" > wrote:
> "Reggie" > wrote in message
>
> ...
>
>
>
> > "Somebody" > wrote in ...
> >> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
> ...
> >>> Coconut oil.
>
> >> Olive Oil and Canola oils are rich in monosaturated and polyunsaturated,
> >> so relatively healthy... *I'd only use coconut oil if I was stuck on
> >> Gilligan's Island.
>
> > Ginger, or Maryann?
>
> both!
>
> Though Ginger is a bit stuck up and not very spontaneous... *if it had to be
> monogamous, MaryAnn. *She's got spunk. *The good kind of spunk.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xY18MqdeFOM

You and Lou?

"Chemo" > wrote in message
...
> Though Ginger is a bit stuck up and not very spontaneous... if it had to
> be
> monogamous, MaryAnn. She's got spunk. The good kind of spunk.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xY18MqdeFOM

You and Lou?

---

Lou doesn't have spunk (the good kind of spunk)... At least I hope that's
not what all those Kleenexes in his wastebasket are full of. Ewww...
Remember the ep where Mary and Lou went on a date? Awkward! Creepy!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gb8zCOF5qo

On 9/29/2012 10:12 AM, Bryan wrote:

> There is another type of fatty acid, Omega-3. This is the stuff in
> wild caught salmon, sardines, etc. It is great in moderation, but bad
> in excess.

My mom vaguely mentioned that taking fish oil supplements isn't as
highly recommended now as it used to be. I haven't had a chance to look
up what she was talking about. She's been taking it for years and now
bought into whatever she heard and isn't taking the supplements any
more. Need to look into that.

On Saturday, September 29, 2012 7:05:31 AM UTC-5, Somebody wrote:
> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
>
> ...
>
> > Coconut oil.
>
>
>
> Olive Oil and Canola oils are rich in monosaturated and polyunsaturated, so
>
> relatively healthy... I'd only use coconut oil if I was stuck on Gilligan's
>
> Island.

Polyunsaturates are bad, except for the Omega 3s, and then in moderation. Olive oil is NOT high in polyunsaturated fats. You are blowing out your ass.

Also, some saturated fatty acids are perfectly fine; the only bad saturated fatty acids are lauric, myristic and palmitic, and some of the longer chain ones that are only found in very low concentrations in foods. Stearic acid is good, and butyric, caproic, caprylic and capric are OK too.

--Bryan

On Saturday, September 29, 2012 6:54:13 AM UTC-5, Somebody wrote:
> "Reggie" > wrote in message
>
> ...
>
>
>
> >> I think saturated fats have always been bad.
>
> >>
>
> >
>
> > I don't think that is true for all saturated fats.
>
>
>
>
>
> all saturated fats are bad. As are all trans fats.

No. You are wrong. NOT "all saturated fats are bad." Some are good.
http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/91/1/46.abstract

--Bryan

"Bryan" > wrote in message
...

Polyunsaturates are bad, except for the Omega 3s, and then in moderation.
Olive oil is NOT high in polyunsaturated fats. You are blowing out your
ass.

Also, some saturated fatty acids are perfectly fine; the only bad saturated
fatty acids are lauric, myristic and palmitic, and some of the longer chain
ones that are only found in very low concentrations in foods. Stearic acid
is good, and butyric, caproic, caprylic and capric are OK too.

--Bryan

---

sorry. I will try to do better next time... But, olive oil is high in
monosaturate fats which are not relatively that bad. Are you going against
the Mayo clinic? Okay maybe the "mayo" clinic has a vested interest in
promoting fats, still it's respected by many even outside the mayonnaise
industry.
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/foo...rition/AN01037

"The main type of fat found in all kinds of olive oil is monounsaturated
fatty acids (MUFAs). MUFAs are actually considered a healthy dietary fat"

On 29/09/2012 5:13 PM, Somebody wrote:

> Though Ginger is a bit stuck up and not very spontaneous... if it had to be
> monogamous, MaryAnn. She's got spunk. The good kind of spunk.
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xY18MqdeFOM
>


Ditto.

"Bryan" > wrote in message
...
>
> No. You are wrong. NOT "all saturated fats are bad." Some are good.
> http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/91/1/46.abstract
>
> --Bryan


You are starting to sound like Julie Bove... Even the Mayo(nnaise) clinic
says saturated fat is bad.
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/fat/NU00262

Harmful dietary fat
The two main types of potentially harmful dietary fat:

a.. Saturated fat. This is a type of fat that comes mainly from animal
sources of food. Saturated fat raises total blood cholesterol levels and
low-density lipoprotein (LDL) cholesterol levels, which can increase your
risk of cardiovascular disease. Saturated fat may also increase your risk of
type 2 diabetes.
b.. Trans fat. This is a type of fat that occurs naturally in some foods,
especially foods from animals. But most trans fats are made during food
processing through partial hydrogenation of unsaturated fats. This process
creates fats that are easier to cook with and less likely to spoil than are
naturally occurring oils. These trans fats are called industrial or
synthetic trans fats. Research studies show that synthetic trans fat can
increase unhealthy LDL cholesterol and lower healthy high-density
lipoprotein (HDL) cholesterol. This can increase your risk of cardiovascular
disease.
Most fats that have a high percentage of saturated fat or trans fat are
solid at room temperature. Because of this, they're typically referred to as
solid fats. They include beef fat, pork fat, shortening, stick margarine and
butter.

On Saturday, September 29, 2012 1:16:11 PM UTC-4, Julie Bove wrote:

( about 5000 words deleted)
>
>
> It's wrong.

Would you learn to SNIP when you reply? Yer wearin' out my scroll button.

On 29/09/2012 6:05 PM, Cheryl wrote:
> On 9/29/2012 10:12 AM, Bryan wrote:
>
>> There is another type of fatty acid, Omega-3. This is the stuff in
>> wild caught salmon, sardines, etc. It is great in moderation, but bad
>> in excess.
>
> My mom vaguely mentioned that taking fish oil supplements isn't as
> highly recommended now as it used to be. I haven't had a chance to look
> up what she was talking about. She's been taking it for years and now
> bought into whatever she heard and isn't taking the supplements any
> more. Need to look into that.


At lest they now sell fish oil in capsules. When I was a kid it was sold
in bottles and dosed by the spoonful. It was pretty well universally
despised hated.

"Mark Thorson" > wrote in message
...
> Dave Smith wrote:
>>
>> On 29/09/2012 7:59 AM, Somebody wrote:
>> > "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
>> > ...
>> >>> Which ones are ok?
>> >>
>> >> Coconut oil.
>> >
>> > egads! Even Mitt Romney would not make a joke like that.
>>
>> The information booklet I got in cardiac rehab suggested eating lots of
>> fruit and vegetables, but in capitals it says ...NOT COCONUT. It is
>> apparently very high in cholesterol. When I asked about the claims of
>> health benefits of the good cholesterol it was suggested that is hype
>> from the people selling it. IN my situation, I think I am better off
>> following the advice of the health professionals.
>
> Yes, coconut oil is even worse than beef fat
> and lard. It's being hyped by the "alternative
> medicine" crowd that rejects medical science.

but beef fat and lard are healthy. you need to stay current.

"Reggie" > wrote in message
...
>
> but beef fat and lard are healthy.

not for cattle.

On Saturday, September 29, 2012 6:04:36 PM UTC-5, Somebody wrote:
> "Bryan" > wrote in message
>
> ...
>
> >
>
> > No. You are wrong. NOT "all saturated fats are bad." Some are good.
>
> > http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/91/1/46.abstract
>
> >
>
> > --Bryan
>
>
>
>
>
> You are starting to sound like Julie Bove... Even the Mayo(nnaise) clinic
>
> says saturated fat is bad.
>
> http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/fat/NU00262
>
>
>
> Harmful dietary fat
>
> The two main types of potentially harmful dietary fat:
>
>
>
> a.. Saturated fat. This is a type of fat that comes mainly from animal
>
> sources of food. Saturated fat raises total blood cholesterol levels and
>
> low-density lipoprotein (LDL) cholesterol levels, which can increase your
>
> risk of cardiovascular disease. Saturated fat may also increase your risk of
>
> type 2 diabetes.
>
> b.. Trans fat. This is a type of fat that occurs naturally in some foods,
>
> especially foods from animals. But most trans fats are made during food
>
> processing through partial hydrogenation of unsaturated fats. This process
>
> creates fats that are easier to cook with and less likely to spoil than are
>
> naturally occurring oils. These trans fats are called industrial or
>
> synthetic trans fats. Research studies show that synthetic trans fat can
>
> increase unhealthy LDL cholesterol and lower healthy high-density
>
> lipoprotein (HDL) cholesterol. This can increase your risk of cardiovascular
>
> disease.
>
> Most fats that have a high percentage of saturated fat or trans fat are
>
> solid at room temperature. Because of this, they're typically referred to as
>
> solid fats. They include beef fat, pork fat, shortening, stick margarine and
>
> butter.

That's the pablum that they feed simpletons like you because they figure that you're either too stupid or too lazy (or both) to learn the more complicated facts. Stearic acid is an 18 carbon fully saturated fat that LOWERS LDL levels. Saturated fatty acids with carbon chains of 10 or fewer have no effect on serum cholesterol.

--Bryan

On Saturday, September 29, 2012 6:38:20 PM UTC-5, Reggie wrote:
> "Mark Thorson" > wrote in message
>
> ...
>
> > Dave Smith wrote:
>
> >>
>
> >> On 29/09/2012 7:59 AM, Somebody wrote:
>
> >> > "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
>
> >> > ...
>
> >> >>> Which ones are ok?
>
> >> >>
>
> >> >> Coconut oil.
>
> >> >
>
> >> > egads! Even Mitt Romney would not make a joke like that.
>
> >>
>
> >> The information booklet I got in cardiac rehab suggested eating lots of
>
> >> fruit and vegetables, but in capitals it says ...NOT COCONUT. It is
>
> >> apparently very high in cholesterol. When I asked about the claims of
>
> >> health benefits of the good cholesterol it was suggested that is hype
>
> >> from the people selling it. IN my situation, I think I am better off
>
> >> following the advice of the health professionals.
>
> >
>
> > Yes, coconut oil is even worse than beef fat
>
> > and lard. It's being hyped by the "alternative
>
> > medicine" crowd that rejects medical science.
>
>
>
> but beef fat and lard are healthy. you need to stay current.

No, they are not. They just aren't as relatively bad as once thought, but that's not because they are good, but because the inflammatory effects of polyunsaturates are more well understood. Beef fat and lard are high in palmitic and myristic acids. Those are baddies.

--Bryan

"Somebody" > wrote in message ...
> "Reggie" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> but beef fat and lard are healthy.
>
> not for cattle.

no, it is spinal tissue that might be a problem.