I knew it would be a problem, getting out of the recliner. You have to
really force it with your legs. And when I've overly exercised, I cramp up
in the ankle.. And it is a pain like I've never felt... Sure enough.
Started to cramp when I tried to get out.... banana usually helps and I
tried eat part of one earlier. But I only had one, and it was going bad...
At least it didn't go into a full cramp. It literally feels like the muscle
has twisted itself around itself like a Moebius strip.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RO3Kly8Gssg

"Somebody" > wrote in message ...
>I knew it would be a problem, getting out of the recliner. You have to
>really force it with your legs. And when I've overly exercised, I cramp up
>in the ankle.. And it is a pain like I've never felt... Sure enough.
>Started to cramp when I tried to get out.... banana usually helps and I
>tried eat part of one earlier. But I only had one, and it was going bad...
>At least it didn't go into a full cramp. It literally feels like the
>muscle has twisted itself around itself like a Moebius strip.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RO3Kly8Gssg

Try using 1/4 to 1/2 tsp No Salt stirred in water.

Cheri

"Cheri" > wrote in message
...
> Try using 1/4 to 1/2 tsp No Salt stirred in water.
>
> Cheri

Cheri,
what is "no salt"?

I've read it's potassium deficiency... I should go drink some PowerAde.
That also helps. Nothing worse than waking up in the middle of the night--
with a leg not so silently screaming.

"John John" > wrote in message
...

> What is 1/4 teaspoon of water with no salt stirred in going to do?

perhaps she means I need to hydrate?

"John John" > wrote in message
...

> And a whole teaspoon might drown you.
>
> --
> John


isn't that what did in Moon?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKUBTX9kKEo

"Somebody" > wrote in message ...
> "Cheri" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Try using 1/4 to 1/2 tsp No Salt stirred in water.
>>
>> Cheri
>
> Cheri,
> what is "no salt"?

It's the name brand for a salt substitute which is potassium chloride. It
usually works for me. Try it and see.

Cheri

"Andy" > wrote in message ...
> "Somebody" > wrote:
>
>> "John John" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>>> What is 1/4 teaspoon of water with no salt stirred in
>>> going to do?
>>
>> perhaps she means I need to hydrate?
>
>
>
> I think Cheri means salt substitute, like Morton's salt
> substitute (potassium chloride
>
> I tried it on food and it was far saltier than regular table
> salt. A glass would taste terrible! Plus ill advised. Since your
> cramps are localized in the ankles you wouldn't want to possibly
> poison yourself with the stuff.
>
> There's got to be a different cause. Are you cutting off
> circulation with your feet up on the recliner's footrest?
>
> Andy


It's very good for leg cramps. Poison yourself indeed!

Cheri

"Cheri" > wrote in message
...
> "Andy" > wrote in message
> ...
>> "Somebody" > wrote:
>>
>>> "John John" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>
>>>> What is 1/4 teaspoon of water with no salt stirred in
>>>> going to do?
>>>
>>> perhaps she means I need to hydrate?
>>
>>
>>
>> I think Cheri means salt substitute, like Morton's salt substitute
>> (potassium chloride
>>
>> I tried it on food and it was far saltier than regular table salt. A
>> glass would taste terrible! Plus ill advised. Since your cramps are
>> localized in the ankles you wouldn't want to possibly poison yourself
>> with the stuff.
>>
>> There's got to be a different cause. Are you cutting off circulation with
>> your feet up on the recliner's footrest?
>>
>> Andy
>
>
> It's very good for leg cramps. Poison yourself indeed!

And shouldn't be used by some people.

http://www.mysanantonio.com/life/foo...es-1029365.php

"Andy" > wrote in message ...
> "Cheri" > wrote:
>
>> It's very good for leg cramps. Poison yourself indeed!
>
>
>
> Cheri,
>
> In 2005, I was in the hospital with pancreatitis. I wasn't
> allowed to eat or drink for a week. I did get the OK to gargle
> and spit water to relieve dry mouth.
>
> I lived on IV sodium chloride all day with the exception of
> one bag of potassium chloride daily. I don't know the dosage
> and figured I'd absorb what my body required rather than at a
> constant rate.
>
> I also had an IV in the other arm to draw blood daily. I'm
> sure they kept close watch on both chlorides and pancreas
> function/mending.
>
> Overdosing on potassium chloride is well known. Fatalities
> have been documented.
>
> Your 1 tsp suggestion may approach or exceed %RDA. That
> doesn't even count potassium in the course of eating.
>
> I was just providing practical cautionary advice not a
> doctor's advice like you did.
>
> Look at the potassium in a daily multivitamin. The unit
> measure falls way, way short of the %RDA, probably for good
> reason.
>
> Andy

My Endo. said if you are lacking in potassium, you are generally lacking in
other things as well. Checking for a deficiency can be done via a blood
test.

Andy wrote:
>
> Look at the potassium in a daily multivitamin. The unit
> measure falls way, way short of the %RDA, probably for good
> reason.

IMHO, bananas are the best way to provide potassium.
Sports drinks are maybe 2nd best way.

G.

Andy wrote:
>
> Gary > wrote:
>
> > IMHO, bananas are the best way to provide potassium.
> > Sports drinks are maybe 2nd best way.
>
> Gary,
>
> The Gatorade sports drink is an interesting story.
>
> Named after the Florida Gators college football team, Gatorade
> simply examined what was lost in human sweat. Presto, Gatorade
> puts it back.

You read that people sweating a lot (for whatever reason) need to replace
the electrolites. It's potassium (and maybe a bit of salt). This is why
running races offer the sports drinks during the race and alway bananas at
the end of the race.

My favorite "end of the race" offering though was the free beer. heheheh

G.

"Cheri" > wrote in message
...

> It's the name brand for a salt substitute which is potassium chloride. It
> usually works for me. Try it and see.
>
> Cheri

where?

"Cheri" > wrote in message
...
> "Andy" > wrote in message
> ...

>> I think Cheri means salt substitute, like Morton's salt substitute
>> (potassium chloride
>>
>> I tried it on food and it was far saltier than regular table salt. A
>> glass would taste terrible! Plus ill advised. Since your cramps are
>> localized in the ankles you wouldn't want to possibly poison yourself
>> with the stuff.
>>
>> There's got to be a different cause. Are you cutting off circulation with
>> your feet up on the recliner's footrest?
>>
>> Andy
>
>
> It's very good for leg cramps. Poison yourself indeed!
>
> Cheri



now I have to unblock Andy too? grrr... I was trying to go on a diet.

"Julie Bove" > wrote in message
...

> My Endo. said if you are lacking in potassium, you are generally lacking
> in other things as well. Checking for a deficiency can be done via a
> blood test.

I had a very full physical for the bus job (2 months ago). They didn't find
any problems... which kinda confused me. Just how thorough was the
physical? I was there almost 2 hours... At the end the PA, told me to drop
my pants. (They still do that?) She grabbed lefty and then righty
(gently).. It happened so fast I didn't have time to get aroused... Thank
God!

"Gary" > wrote in message ...
>
> IMHO, bananas are the best way to provide potassium.
> Sports drinks are maybe 2nd best way.
>
> G.


I agree with this post.

"Gary" > wrote in message ...

> My favorite "end of the race" offering though was the free beer. heheheh


free sex would be a better incentive... But I'd probably crash before
finishing.

Andy > wrote:

>Overdosing on potassium chloride is well known. Fatalities
>have been documented.

Indeed, Kervorkian ("Doctor Death") would use
a final infusion of potassium chloride to induce heart
failure in his assisted suicide patients.

This is because even extremely large doses of barbituates
and opiates (which were the first steps of his "death device")
might sometime fail to kill you.

Steve

"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> Andy wrote:
>>
>> Look at the potassium in a daily multivitamin. The unit
>> measure falls way, way short of the %RDA, probably for good
>> reason.
>
> IMHO, bananas are the best way to provide potassium.
> Sports drinks are maybe 2nd best way.

I have kidney damage that requires that I limit potassium intake, so I have
a lot of experience with what does and doesn't have high amounts of
potassium.
The standard measurement for it is half a bananna in non-medical chemistry
circles, where the milligram is the measure.
That half a banana represents eight strawberries. five of them equals the
potassium in one cup of pinto beans. That gives a measure of the difference.
Your best sources of potassium are beans, nuts, salmon, and citrus fruit --
the big four for potassium are salmon, almonds, orange juice and lima beans.
In a USDA/canadian food administration book I got for fruits and vegetables
everything is listed in milligrams except for the lima beans -- 4.3 GRAMS of
potassium per serving.
How do you know if you have too much? The first symptom of potassium
overload is soreness all over the body. Just touching the skin anywhere
hurts. At that point you should discontinue potassium intake, as higher
levels will stop the heart. After my kidney damage eating half a cantaloupe
brought me to the all over soreness point. I also have to avoid broccoli,
cauliflower, all citrus except for lemons, all beans and peas except for
black eyed, green, snow, and sugar snap peas, all beans except for green
beans, all nuts except in serious moderation, and potatoes unless I soak
them overnight or boil them twice.
Potassium is a fundamental part of nerve function -- a sodium/potassium
exchange is vital for transmitting nerve impulses.
Just a bit on potassium.

On 10/7/2012 2:18 AM, Cheri wrote:
> "Andy" > wrote in message ...
>> "Somebody" > wrote:
>>
>>> "John John" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>
>>>> What is 1/4 teaspoon of water with no salt stirred in
>>>> going to do?
>>>
>>> perhaps she means I need to hydrate?
>>
>>
>>
>> I think Cheri means salt substitute, like Morton's salt substitute
>> (potassium chloride
>>
>> I tried it on food and it was far saltier than regular table salt. A
>> glass would taste terrible! Plus ill advised. Since your cramps are
>> localized in the ankles you wouldn't want to possibly poison yourself
>> with the stuff.
>>
>> There's got to be a different cause. Are you cutting off circulation
>> with your feet up on the recliner's footrest?
>>
>> Andy
>
>
> It's very good for leg cramps. Poison yourself indeed!
>
> Cheri

Magnesium (deficiency of) is the electrolyte that is usually involved
with muscle cramping.

My doc suggests the supplement use promoted by the Mayo clinic. One of
those is magnesium (commonly found as calcium-magnesium-zinc tabs).

"John John" > wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 7 Oct 2012 08:18:47 -0400, "Somebody" > wrote:
>
>>"Julie Bove" > wrote in message
...
>>
>>> My Endo. said if you are lacking in potassium, you are generally lacking
>>> in other things as well. Checking for a deficiency can be done via a
>>> blood test.
>>
>>I had a very full physical for the bus job (2 months ago). They didn't
>>find
>>any problems... which kinda confused me. Just how thorough was the
>>physical? I was there almost 2 hours... At the end the PA, told me to
>>drop
>>my pants. (They still do that?) She grabbed lefty and then righty
>>(gently).. It happened so fast I didn't have time to get aroused...
>>Thank
>>God!
>
> Makes you wonder what she had to go through to get her job.

lol

it happened so fast... I was like wft is she doing... oh, grabbing my
balls, and asking me to cough.

I thought: my ex never grabbed them like that! If she had, maybe we'd
still be married. (The PA was very gentle. Guess she been around the ball
park a few times.)

Gary wrote:
> Andy wrote:
>> Look at the potassium in a daily multivitamin. The unit
>> measure falls way, way short of the %RDA, probably for good
>> reason.
>
> IMHO, bananas are the best way to provide potassium.
> Sports drinks are maybe 2nd best way.
>
> G.

Yabbut, for those who control carbs, bananas are pretty carby.

--

"Jean B." > wrote in message
...
> Gary wrote:
>> Andy wrote:
>>> Look at the potassium in a daily multivitamin. The unit
>>> measure falls way, way short of the %RDA, probably for good
>>> reason.
>>
>> IMHO, bananas are the best way to provide potassium.
>> Sports drinks are maybe 2nd best way.
>>
>> G.
>
> Yabbut, for those who control carbs, bananas are pretty carby.

Bananas are overrated when it comes to potassium. Nuts are better, as is
salmon and most beans. Broccoli is also a good source of it, too, and for
that fast hit, nothing beats orange juice.

On 10/6/2012 3:17 PM, Somebody wrote:
> I knew it would be a problem, getting out of the recliner. You have to
> really force it with your legs. And when I've overly exercised, I cramp up
> in the ankle.. And it is a pain like I've never felt... Sure enough.
> Started to cramp when I tried to get out.... banana usually helps and I
> tried eat part of one earlier. But I only had one, and it was going bad...
> At least it didn't go into a full cramp. It literally feels like the muscle
> has twisted itself around itself like a Moebius strip.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RO3Kly8Gssg
>
>

I'll take some Tums for cramps. I have to be careful about eating
bananas because they can trigger leg cramps. I understand that potassium
should alleviate cramping but my body has other ideas.

On 10/7/2012 1:42 PM, dsi1 wrote:

> I'll take some Tums for cramps. I have to be careful about eating
> bananas because they can trigger leg cramps. I understand that potassium
> should alleviate cramping but my body has other ideas.


My problem, was a shortage of vitamin D. I began taking 50K per day and
the cramps went away almost immediately. I was eating 2-3 bananas per
day for weeks and weeks, and it did not stop the leg cramps, so I had
lab work done.

Becca

Ema Nymton wrote:
>
>My problem, was a shortage of vitamin D. I began taking 50K per day and
>the cramps went away almost immediately. I was eating 2-3 bananas per
>day for weeks and weeks, and it did not stop the leg cramps, so I had
>lab work done.
>
>Becca

Where have you been? You asked about if the leaves were turning here
so I posted some pictures but it seems you never saw them even though
I titled the post "Ping Becca".

"Jean B." > wrote in message
...
> Yabbut, for those who control carbs, bananas are pretty carby.
>
> --

I only break off about an inch at a time... then refrigerate... well,
fridgerate. After the second time, re-fridgerate.

"Nicole Massey" > wrote in message
...

> Bananas are overrated when it comes to potassium. Nuts are better, as is
> salmon and most beans. Broccoli is also a good source of it, too, and for
> that fast hit, nothing beats orange juice.

I think my OJ has gone bad. Had over a week... They say it ferments. I
should throw it away.

Pshaw on dissing nanners! I know for me, they make a difference.

"dsi1" > wrote in message
...

> I'll take some Tums for cramps. I have to be careful about eating bananas
> because they can trigger leg cramps. I understand that potassium should
> alleviate cramping but my body has other ideas.


are you made out of anti-matter?

"Brooklyn1" <Gravesend1> wrote in message
...

> Where have you been? You asked about if the leaves were turning here
> so I posted some pictures but it seems you never saw them even though
> I titled the post "Ping Becca".


maybe she didn't want to be pinged by you?

On Saturday, October 6, 2012 9:17:15 PM UTC-4, Somebody wrote:
> I knew it would be a problem, getting out of the recliner. You have to
>
> really force it with your legs. And when I've overly exercised, I cramp up
>
> in the ankle.. And it is a pain like I've never felt... Sure enough.
>
> Started to cramp when I tried to get out.... banana usually helps and I
>
> tried eat part of one earlier. But I only had one, and it was going bad....
>
> At least it didn't go into a full cramp. It literally feels like the muscle
>
> has twisted itself around itself like a Moebius strip.
>
>
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RO3Kly8Gssg

The active ingredient is most likely potassium. Bananas are an excellent source ans a lack od potassium is a common reason for leg and other muscle cramps. You might want to keep some potassium tablets on hand, but check with your doctor before going overboard. Hyperkalemia can damage kidneys.

I have a problem with magnesium deficiency, which also leads to cramps. It's caused by a genetic anomaly andc easily managed.

Jerry

On Sun, 7 Oct 2012 16:51:46 -0700 (PDT), Jerry Avins >
wrote:
....
>The active ingredient is most likely potassium. Bananas are an excellent source ans a lack od potassium is a common reason for leg and other muscle cramps. You might want to keep some potassium tablets on hand, but check with your doctor before going overboard. Hyperkalemia can damage kidneys.
>
>I have a problem with magnesium deficiency, which also leads to cramps. It's caused by a genetic anomaly andc easily managed.
>
>Jerry

Hypo or hyperkalemia mostly affects your heart rhythms, and both can
be fatal.

John Kuthe...

On 10/7/2012 11:37 AM, Ema Nymton wrote:
> On 10/7/2012 1:42 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>
>> I'll take some Tums for cramps. I have to be careful about eating
>> bananas because they can trigger leg cramps. I understand that potassium
>> should alleviate cramping but my body has other ideas.
>
>
> My problem, was a shortage of vitamin D. I began taking 50K per day and
> the cramps went away almost immediately. I was eating 2-3 bananas per
> day for weeks and weeks, and it did not stop the leg cramps, so I had
> lab work done.
>
> Becca

That's kind of unusual, around here anyway. Sounds like you live up North.

On 10/7/2012 1:28 PM, Somebody wrote:
> "dsi1" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>> I'll take some Tums for cramps. I have to be careful about eating bananas
>> because they can trigger leg cramps. I understand that potassium should
>> alleviate cramping but my body has other ideas.
>
>
> are you made out of anti-matter?
>
>

Evidently, there's nothing guaranteed with the chemistry of the human
body. The body deals with percentages not absolutes.

The active ingredient is most likely potassium. Bananas are an excellent
source ans a lack od potassium is a common reason for leg and other muscle
cramps. You might want to keep some potassium tablets on hand, but check
with your doctor before going overboard. Hyperkalemia can damage kidneys.

I have a problem with magnesium deficiency, which also leads to cramps. It's
caused by a genetic anomaly andc easily managed.

Jerry

---

It's only when I over exercise so not long term. Also when I under-exercise
and stop getting enough.

"Nicole Massey" > wrote:
> "Jean B." > wrote in message
> ...
>> Gary wrote:
>>> Andy wrote:
>>>> Look at the potassium in a daily multivitamin. The unit
>>>> measure falls way, way short of the %RDA, probably for good
>>>> reason.
>>>
>>> IMHO, bananas are the best way to provide potassium.
>>> Sports drinks are maybe 2nd best way.
>>>
>>> G.
>>
>> Yabbut, for those who control carbs, bananas are pretty carby.
>
> Bananas are overrated when it comes to potassium. Nuts are better, as is
> salmon and most beans. Broccoli is also a good source of it, too, and for
> that fast hit, nothing beats orange juice.

Yes, but bananas are virtually a liquid when it enters your stomach.
Instant relief too.

Greg

John Kuthe > wrote:
> On Sun, 7 Oct 2012 16:51:46 -0700 (PDT), Jerry Avins >
> wrote:
> ...
>> The active ingredient is most likely potassium. Bananas are an excellent
>> source ans a lack od potassium is a common reason for leg and other
>> muscle cramps. You might want to keep some potassium tablets on hand,
>> but check with your doctor before going overboard. Hyperkalemia can damage kidneys.
>>
>> I have a problem with magnesium deficiency, which also leads to cramps.
>> It's caused by a genetic anomaly andc easily managed.
>>
>> Jerry
>
> Hypo or hyperkalemia mostly affects your heart rhythms, and both can
> be fatal.
>
> John Kuthe...

I tried taking a couple potassium pills, and became edgy and tense. Well,
they use it to kill living things.

I'm not supposed to take potassium on diuretic. Been taking magnesium for a
few years to control heart rhythms, along with extra calcium. I think zinc
may also be a factor.

Extra D during the winter has relieved most of my hip problems, but my
upper arm joints are getting more sensitive. Going to try getting more of
the other joint remedies.

Greg

On 10/7/2012 8:39 AM, Nicole Massey wrote:

> Potassium is a fundamental part of nerve function -- a sodium/potassium
> exchange is vital for transmitting nerve impulses.
> Just a bit on potassium.

That is all very interesting, thank you! Is there a possibility that
some of the symptoms of too much potassium could show up with a
potassium deficit? Specifically the sensitivity to touch.

"gregz" > wrote in message
...

> I tried taking a couple potassium pills, and became edgy and tense. Well,
> they use it to kill living things.
>
> I'm not supposed to take potassium on diuretic. Been taking magnesium for
> a
> few years to control heart rhythms, along with extra calcium. I think zinc
> may also be a factor.
>
> Extra D during the winter has relieved most of my hip problems, but my
> upper arm joints are getting more sensitive. Going to try getting more of
> the other joint remedies.
>
> Greg



My mum used to get Prevention magazine... I looked at it a few times. Made
my head spin.

I was going to post a link to the Exorcist... but my god. No one needs to
see that (again).

On 10/7/2012 4:58 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:

> Where have you been? You asked about if the leaves were turning here
> so I posted some pictures but it seems you never saw them even though
> I titled the post "Ping Becca".


We went to the dentist in Mexico, so we were gone for a few days. I
would move to the Rio Grande Valley, if not for the possibility of
grandchildren. I did see your photos and I loved them. You live in a
beautiful part of the country.

Becca

>> My problem, was a shortage of vitamin D. I began taking 50K per day and
>> the cramps went away almost immediately. I was eating 2-3 bananas per
>> day for weeks and weeks, and it did not stop the leg cramps, so I had
>> lab work done.
>>
>> Becca
>
> That's kind of unusual, around here anyway. Sounds like you live up North.


It is beautiful up North, much prettier than it is here, but I will
never live where it snows. I live in the Gulf Coast of Texas, near Houston.

Becca