George M. Middius wrote:
> Dave Smith wrote:
>
>>> It takes seconds to grate/shred cheese. I can't understand why she
>>> doesn't want to do it...afterall, she's in the kitchen making dinner
>>> anyway.
>
>> I hope you will understand if I don't jump to the defense of someone
>> who can't take a few seconds to grate some cheese.
>
> Maybe Steve will tell us what the problem really is. It's clearly
> something more profound than cheese.

I was just worried that the grated cheese would clump up if kept in the
'fridge for a while. First thing is to find out if that's true, so
we'll see the next time my wife or I tries to use it, which could be as
soon as this evening.

-S-

On Fri, 19 Oct 2012 07:35:28 -0400, "Steve Freides" >
wrote:

> We'll see what it's like the next time she want it, likely
> today or tomorrow.

It should be fine if she uses it that quickly.

--
I take life with a grain of salt, a slice of lemon and a shot of tequila

On Thu, 18 Oct 2012 23:03:20 -0700 (PDT), projectile vomit chick
> wrote:

>On Oct 18, 2:54*pm, "Steve Freides" > wrote:
>> Anything one can add to home-grated sharp cheddar to keep it "fluffy?"
>> My wife likes store-bought grated cheese, I prefer my grass-fed cheddar
>> so I grated an entire block, wasn't much, today, and put it in a gallon
>> zip-top bag in the refrigerator. *Mine is already not so "fluffy".
>>
>> Cornstrach, flour, some sort of OK-but-sounds-terrible chemical they use
>> in food processing?
>>
>> Guesses are fine, but if someone actually has a real-world answer,
>> that's what I'm looking for.
>>
>> Thanks in advance.
>>
>> -S-
>
>Glad real people have real problems. LOL

There's no problem... if his wife needs special processed cheese all
she need do is skin his pecker back.

Ophelia wrote:
>
> "Steve Freides" wrote:
> > Dave Smith wrote:
> >> You're the one
> >> who lives with a woman who thinks that grating cheese is a major task.
> >
> > Very, very happily so, I might add.
>
> Which is the whole point)

Al Bundy: "Women. You can't live with them...can't send them to Canada."

On 19/10/2012 3:06 PM, Christine Dabney wrote:
> On Fri, 19 Oct 2012 15:00:42 -0400, "Steve Freides" >
> wrote:
>
>> I was just worried that the grated cheese would clump up if kept in the
>> 'fridge for a while. First thing is to find out if that's true, so
>> we'll see the next time my wife or I tries to use it, which could be as
>> soon as this evening.
>>
>> -S-
>
> It only takes a minute or so to unclump. How hard is that?
>
>
My question is how hard is it to grate some cheese for a meal? It takes
only a few seconds. It is worth it to have freshly grated cheese.

"George M. Middius" wrote:
>
> Dave Smith wrote:
>
> > > It takes seconds to grate/shred cheese. I can't understand why she
> > > doesn't want to do it...afterall, she's in the kitchen making dinner
> > > anyway.
>
> > I hope you will understand if I don't jump to the defense of someone who
> > can't take a few seconds to grate some cheese.
>
> Maybe Steve will tell us what the problem really is. It's clearly
> something more profound than cheese.

Probably no sex unless he buys her frozen grated cheese. heheh

G.

"George M. Middius" wrote:
>
> Steve Freides wrote:
>
> > > She asked for grated cheese, but he bought a block instead and she
> > > *doesn't want* to grate cheese. What can't you understand about that?
> >
> > Thank you.
>
> How long have you two had this debilitating communication problem?

And what a trivial problem it is.

G.

Steve Freides wrote:
>
> I was just worried that the grated cheese would clump up if kept in the
> 'fridge for a while. First thing is to find out if that's true, so
> we'll see the next time my wife or I tries to use it, which could be as
> soon as this evening.

Again.... grate your good cheese onto a wax paper covered cookie sheet.
Freeze it first, then bag it and keep it in your freezer. That will keep it
from clumping. This thread has turned ridiculous.

That said, you can't be needing this cheese all that often. Maybe just wait
an extra hour for dinner so you can shred it yourself for her if she's so
lazy to cook dinner but can't be bothered to shred some herself. Good
grief!@

This is like a Julie post, imo.

G.

On 19/10/2012 12:03 PM, Steve Freides wrote:
hard cheeses.
>
> Cheddar cheese seems in between, no? It's hard enough to use in the
> grater although it doesn't work through as easily as a hard cheese like
> parmesan. I guess what I'm getting is shredded cheese produced from a
> kitch appliance I call a grater - maybe I should call it a shredded, but
> after all, what's in a name?
>
> If you have a suggestion as to how to get what I need, I'm all ears.


Get a food processor with a grater attachment. Set it up ahead of time
so all you wife has to do is put it into the machine and turn it on for
a couple seconds. She can leave it for you to clean up when you get
home. You get to have your good cheese and she doesn't have to do any work.

On 10/19/2012 3:06 PM, Christine Dabney wrote:
> On Fri, 19 Oct 2012 15:00:42 -0400, "Steve Freides" >
> wrote:
>
>> I was just worried that the grated cheese would clump up if kept in the
>> 'fridge for a while. First thing is to find out if that's true, so
>> we'll see the next time my wife or I tries to use it, which could be as
>> soon as this evening.
>>
>> -S-
>
> It only takes a minute or so to unclump. How hard is that?
>

I usually pre-shred mozzarella cheese and freeze it but it will clump
into a big frozen ball. I guess because it's damp enough and then gets
frozen while wet. So then the only thing I can do is cut pieces from
the frozen blob and put it through the FP. After that it never clumps again.

On 10/19/2012 6:08 PM, Gary wrote:
> Steve Freides wrote:
>>
>> I was just worried that the grated cheese would clump up if kept in the
>> 'fridge for a while. First thing is to find out if that's true, so
>> we'll see the next time my wife or I tries to use it, which could be as
>> soon as this evening.
>
> Again.... grate your good cheese onto a wax paper covered cookie sheet.
> Freeze it first, then bag it and keep it in your freezer. That will keep it
> from clumping. This thread has turned ridiculous.
>
> That said, you can't be needing this cheese all that often. Maybe just wait
> an extra hour for dinner so you can shred it yourself for her if she's so
> lazy to cook dinner but can't be bothered to shred some herself. Good
> grief!@
>
> This is like a Julie post, imo.

Not from the OP Gary. That's how threads morph. Steve only asked if
there was something to keep cheese fluffy and the rest is what you seem
to be calling a Julie post.

On 10/19/2012 8:51 AM, Ophelia wrote:

> A small shredder might better. At least you won't have the storage
> problems.
>
> http://www.lakeland.co.uk/15063/I-Ca...-Measuring-Jug
>
>
> You can even buy electric ones.

I think I really really like this! Thanks O! Another gadget for my new
pantry.

"Cheryl" > wrote in message
...
> On 10/19/2012 8:51 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>> A small shredder might better. At least you won't have the storage
>> problems.
>>
>> http://www.lakeland.co.uk/15063/I-Ca...-Measuring-Jug
>>
>>
>> You can even buy electric ones.
>
> I think I really really like this! Thanks O! Another gadget for my new
> pantry.

so I guess OP's wife gets one of these for Christmas?

On 10/19/2012 8:30 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> On Fri, 19 Oct 2012 19:57:37 -0400, Cheryl wrote:
>
>> On 10/19/2012 8:51 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>
>>> A small shredder might better. At least you won't have the storage
>>> problems.
>>>
>>> http://www.lakeland.co.uk/15063/I-Ca...-Measuring-Jug
>>>
>>>
>>> You can even buy electric ones.
>>
>> I think I really really like this! Thanks O! Another gadget for my new
>> pantry.
>
> Don't do it. That thing is way too small to be of practical any use.
> Looks like it would just be a PITA. You could grate 1/4lb of cheese
> by hand on a paddle grater and have it clean before you even have that
> thing assembled. My paddle grater hangs under the cabinet next to my
> knives. Whip, whip, done!

Ok, paddle garter it is. I almost accidentally wrote paddle farter
though.

On Fri, 19 Oct 2012 19:41:50 -0400, Cheryl >
wrote:

> We had a discussion on this group not too long ago about box cheese
> graters and how people called it grated cheese when it really meant
> shredded unless it was a hard cheese. I never really thought about the
> difference before either, but this group will for sure set you straight
> on these mistakes!

Just because they out-shout everyone else doesn't make them correct.
How come the 4 sided version and even the flat type that I use is
called a grater and not a shredder?

--
I take life with a grain of salt, a slice of lemon and a shot of tequila

On Fri, 19 Oct 2012 17:32:03 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

> On 19/10/2012 3:06 PM, Christine Dabney wrote:
> > On Fri, 19 Oct 2012 15:00:42 -0400, "Steve Freides" >
> > wrote:
> >
> >> I was just worried that the grated cheese would clump up if kept in the
> >> 'fridge for a while. First thing is to find out if that's true, so
> >> we'll see the next time my wife or I tries to use it, which could be as
> >> soon as this evening.
> >>
> >> -S-
> >
> > It only takes a minute or so to unclump. How hard is that?
> >
> >
> My question is how hard is it to grate some cheese for a meal? It takes
> only a few seconds. It is worth it to have freshly grated cheese.

He's already said she likes his cheese. Maybe she'll change her mind
about the process now.

--
I take life with a grain of salt, a slice of lemon and a shot of tequila

On 10/19/2012 11:05 PM, sf wrote:
> On Fri, 19 Oct 2012 19:41:50 -0400, Cheryl >
> wrote:
>
>> We had a discussion on this group not too long ago about box cheese
>> graters and how people called it grated cheese when it really meant
>> shredded unless it was a hard cheese. I never really thought about the
>> difference before either, but this group will for sure set you straight
>> on these mistakes!
>
> Just because they out-shout everyone else doesn't make them correct.
> How come the 4 sided version and even the flat type that I use is
> called a grater and not a shredder?
>
Good question.

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 19 Oct 2012 19:41:50 -0400, Cheryl >
> wrote:
>
>> We had a discussion on this group not too long ago about box cheese
>> graters and how people called it grated cheese when it really meant
>> shredded unless it was a hard cheese. I never really thought about the
>> difference before either, but this group will for sure set you straight
>> on these mistakes!
>
> Just because they out-shout everyone else doesn't make them correct.
> How come the 4 sided version and even the flat type that I use is
> called a grater and not a shredder?
>

because you can shred with a grater but you cannot grate with a shredder.

On Sat, 20 Oct 2012 06:42:27 -0700, "Pico Rico"
> wrote:

> because you can shred with a grater but you cannot grate with a shredder.

My flat grater only has one use: shredding.

--
I take life with a grain of salt, a slice of lemon and a shot of tequila

Pico Rico wrote:
> "sf" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Fri, 19 Oct 2012 19:41:50 -0400, Cheryl >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> We had a discussion on this group not too long ago about box cheese
>>> graters and how people called it grated cheese when it really meant
>>> shredded unless it was a hard cheese. I never really thought about
>>> the difference before either, but this group will for sure set you
>>> straight on these mistakes!
>>
>> Just because they out-shout everyone else doesn't make them correct.
>> How come the 4 sided version and even the flat type that I use is
>> called a grater and not a shredder?
>>
>
> because you can shred with a grater but you cannot grate with a
> shredder.

My quest is for a greater shredder.

-S-

Dave Smith wrote:

> My question is how hard is it to grate some cheese for a meal? It takes
> only a few seconds. It is worth it to have freshly grated cheese.

Obvious, isn't it. That's why I thought the cheese business was a
flashpoint for an underlying conflict.

"Dave Smith" wrote in message ...

On 19/10/2012 12:03 PM, Steve Freides wrote:
hard cheeses.
>
> Cheddar cheese seems in between, no? It's hard enough to use in the
> grater although it doesn't work through as easily as a hard cheese like
> parmesan. I guess what I'm getting is shredded cheese produced from a
> kitch appliance I call a grater - maybe I should call it a shredded, but
> after all, what's in a name?
>
> If you have a suggestion as to how to get what I need, I'm all ears.


Get a food processor with a grater attachment. Set it up ahead of time
so all you wife has to do is put it into the machine and turn it on for
a couple seconds. She can leave it for you to clean up when you get
home. You get to have your good cheese and she doesn't have to do any work.
*************

Dave, *he's* the one who works from home. She comes home from work and
cooks. He does the shopping, she does the cooking. Nice arrangement, seems
to work for them.

At any rate, as others have pointed out, he's confusing shredding (for
softer cheeses such as cheddar) with grating (hard cheeses). The store
bought bags of pre-shredded cheese are often dusted with corn starch (corn
flour) to keep the cheese from sticking together. Seems like he could do
the same if he's shredding a lot of cheddar.

Jill

On Fri, 19 Oct 2012 20:05:38 -0700, sf > wrote:

>On Fri, 19 Oct 2012 19:41:50 -0400, Cheryl >
>wrote:
>
>> We had a discussion on this group not too long ago about box cheese
>> graters and how people called it grated cheese when it really meant
>> shredded unless it was a hard cheese. I never really thought about the
>> difference before either, but this group will for sure set you straight
>> on these mistakes!
>
>Just because they out-shout everyone else doesn't make them correct.
>How come the 4 sided version and even the flat type that I use is
>called a grater and not a shredder?

So ignorant asswipes like you don't get box graters confused with nail
clippers. Very few box graters actually incorporate a grater, they
all incorporate various shreders and slicers. Food processors don't
grate either even though they are supplied with what are called
various sized grater blades, that are actually shredders. Shredding
is in fact slicing... grating is in fact abrading. With how sf grates
on nerves I'm very surprised that her mother didn't tie her into a
gunny sack with a brick and toss her off a bridge... probably did, but
her 300 pound cellulite ass is like trying to drown kapok.

On Sat, 20 Oct 2012 06:42:27 -0700, "Pico Rico"
> wrote:

>
>"sf" > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Fri, 19 Oct 2012 19:41:50 -0400, Cheryl >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> We had a discussion on this group not too long ago about box cheese
>>> graters and how people called it grated cheese when it really meant
>>> shredded unless it was a hard cheese. I never really thought about the
>>> difference before either, but this group will for sure set you straight
>>> on these mistakes!
>>
>> Just because they out-shout everyone else doesn't make them correct.
>> How come the 4 sided version and even the flat type that I use is
>> called a grater and not a shredder?
>>
>
>because you can shred with a grater but you cannot grate with a shredder.

Actually you cannot shred with a grater.

On 20/10/2012 11:55 AM, jmcquown wrote:

>
> Get a food processor with a grater attachment. Set it up ahead of time
> so all you wife has to do is put it into the machine and turn it on for
> a couple seconds. She can leave it for you to clean up when you get
> home. You get to have your good cheese and she doesn't have to do any work.
> *************
>
> Dave, *he's* the one who works from home. She comes home from work and
> cooks. He does the shopping, she does the cooking. Nice arrangement,
> seems to work for them.
>
> At any rate, as others have pointed out, he's confusing shredding (for
> softer cheeses such as cheddar) with grating (hard cheeses). The store
> bought bags of pre-shredded cheese are often dusted with corn starch
> (corn flour) to keep the cheese from sticking together. Seems like he
> could do the same if he's shredding a lot of cheddar.
>
>


Shredder and grater are interchangeable. There are tools called box
graters that usually have one face that is a grater while the other
faces are different sizes of shredders/graters.

I had some sympathy for him wanting a better quality cheese when she
wanted the convenience of have the cheese pre grated/shredded. But if he
doesn't care to show some cajones and insist on her using the better
cheese. We're taking cheese here. How much work is is to shred cheese?

On 20/10/2012 11:31 AM, George M. Middius wrote:
> Dave Smith wrote:
>
>> My question is how hard is it to grate some cheese for a meal? It takes
>> only a few seconds. It is worth it to have freshly grated cheese.
>
> Obvious, isn't it. That's why I thought the cheese business was a
> flashpoint for an underlying conflict.
>


Yep. Someone's on a power trip. He is going to get frustrated, then he
is going to yell at the kid. The kid is going to kick the dog...

On Oct 20, 11:54*am, Dave Smith > wrote:
> On 20/10/2012 11:31 AM, George M. Middius wrote:
>
> > Dave Smith wrote:
>
> >> My question is how hard is it to grate some cheese for a meal? *It takes
> >> only a few seconds. It is worth it to have freshly grated cheese.
>
> > Obvious, isn't it. That's why I thought the cheese business was a
> > flashpoint for an underlying conflict.
>
> Yep. Someone's on a power trip. He is going to get frustrated, then he
> is going to yell at the kid. The kid is going to kick the dog...

this has to be the dumbest thread of the week.

On 19/10/2012 11:05 PM, sf wrote:
> On Fri, 19 Oct 2012 19:41:50 -0400, Cheryl >
> wrote:
>
>> We had a discussion on this group not too long ago about box cheese
>> graters and how people called it grated cheese when it really meant
>> shredded unless it was a hard cheese. I never really thought about the
>> difference before either, but this group will for sure set you straight
>> on these mistakes!
>
> Just because they out-shout everyone else doesn't make them correct.
> How come the 4 sided version and even the flat type that I use is
> called a grater and not a shredder?
>


I have a cheese grater. It is mainly for Parmesan cheese. It is hand
held gadget with a crank and a lever doodat like a garlic press, and the
is a tube shaped grater that is turned with a crank. I also have a micro
plane grater. Then there is a flat grater and a box grater, both sold as
graters, not as shredders. I also have a food processor that has an
attachment, sometimes called a shredder and sometimes called a grater.

Chemo wrote:

> > >> My question is how hard is it to grate some cheese for a meal? *It takes
> > >> only a few seconds. It is worth it to have freshly grated cheese.
> >
> > > Obvious, isn't it. That's why I thought the cheese business was a
> > > flashpoint for an underlying conflict.
> >
> > Yep. Someone's on a power trip. He is going to get frustrated, then he
> > is going to yell at the kid. The kid is going to kick the dog...
>
> this has to be the dumbest thread of the week.

Tell us about all the nasty sheepish cheese where you live.

On Oct 20, 1:36*pm, George M. Middius > wrote:
> Chemo wrote:
> > > >> My question is how hard is it to grate some cheese for a meal? It takes
> > > >> only a few seconds. It is worth it to have freshly grated cheese.
>
> > > > Obvious, isn't it. That's why I thought the cheese business was a
> > > > flashpoint for an underlying conflict.
>
> > > Yep. Someone's on a power trip. He is going to get frustrated, then he
> > > is going to yell at the kid. The kid is going to kick the dog...
>
> > this has to be the dumbest thread of the week.
>
> Tell us about all the nasty sheepish cheese where you live.

this is where I get just about all my cheese.
http://http://www.roguecreamery.com/store/

"sf" wrote in message ...

On Fri, 19 Oct 2012 19:41:50 -0400, Cheryl >
wrote:

> We had a discussion on this group not too long ago about box cheese
> graters and how people called it grated cheese when it really meant
> shredded unless it was a hard cheese. I never really thought about the
> difference before either, but this group will for sure set you straight
> on these mistakes!

Just because they out-shout everyone else doesn't make them correct.
How come the 4 sided version and even the flat type that I use is
called a grater and not a shredder?

--
I take life with a grain of salt, a slice of lemon and a shot of tequila



IF you're talking about a box grater when you say "the 4 sided version",
there's a good reason. One side has wider blades for shredding (soft
cheeses). The other side is small holes for grating (hard cheeses). You've
been around long enough to know the difference. The thing is, there is no
rule that says you can't make larger shredded Parmesan than you can cheddar.
It really depends on the recipe and the usage.

However, the OP said he was grating or shredding? large quantities and
doesn't want it to stick together. The only suggestion I have is to toss it
in some corn starch. Otherwise cheddar, shredded or grated, will stick
together when you attempt to store it in bulk.

Jill

"sf" wrote in message ...

On Sat, 20 Oct 2012 06:42:27 -0700, "Pico Rico"
> wrote:

> because you can shred with a grater but you cannot grate with a shredder.

My flat grater only has one use: shredding.

--
I take life with a grain of salt, a slice of lemon and a shot of tequila



So that means everyone has the same flat grater? I have a flat cheese
"grater". I have one similar to this:

http://www.plumbersurplus.com/Prod/E...FQu0nQodMxQAng

You can shred, slice or grate on it. I think the OP needs to use the larger
holes for "shredding" cheddar.

I also have a box grater (rarely used) but it, too, has different size holes
depending upon the desired result.

Jill

"Gary" wrote in message ...

"George M. Middius" wrote:
>
> Steve Freides wrote:
>
> > > She asked for grated cheese, but he bought a block instead and she
> > > *doesn't want* to grate cheese. What can't you understand about that?
> >
> > Thank you.
>
> How long have you two had this debilitating communication problem?

And what a trivial problem it is.

G.
***************

At least it's a food related discussion

Jill

jmcquown wrote:
>
> "Gary" wrote in message ...
>
> "George M. Middius" wrote:
> >
> > Steve Freides wrote:
> >
> > > > She asked for grated cheese, but he bought a block instead and she
> > > > *doesn't want* to grate cheese. What can't you understand about that?
> > >
> > > Thank you.
> >
> > How long have you two had this debilitating communication problem?
>
> And what a trivial problem it is.
>
> G.
> ***************
>
> At least it's a food related discussion

One thing I like about this ng is that we can feel free to talk OT
occasionally too. Once everyone knows everyone, why not be able to talk
about all? Have a health problem? Tell us and get some support.

Gary

On 2012-10-18, Steve Freides > wrote:
>
> Guesses are fine, but if someone actually has a real-world answer,
> that's what I'm looking for.

The "real-world" answer is, grate it as you need it.

That's the whole point of "Home-Grated". Pre-grated cheese doesn't
store well. Dries out quicker and tends to stick together. That's
why even commercial name-brand grated cheeses use a some kinda starchy
powder to prevent sticking. Sargento brand uses something seemingly
as coarse as corned flour, or whatever the heck it is.

Bottom line, grate it right over yer food.

nb

--
Definition of objectivism:
"Eff you! I got mine."
http://www.nongmoproject.org/

"notbob" > wrote in message
...
> On 2012-10-18, Steve Freides > wrote:
>>
>> Guesses are fine, but if someone actually has a real-world answer,
>> that's what I'm looking for.
>
> The "real-world" answer is, grate it as you need it.
>
> That's the whole point of "Home-Grated". Pre-grated cheese doesn't
> store well. Dries out quicker and tends to stick together. That's
> why even commercial name-brand grated cheeses use a some kinda starchy
> powder to prevent sticking. Sargento brand uses something seemingly
> as coarse as corned flour, or whatever the heck it is.
>
> Bottom line, grate it right over yer food.
>


There is a big difference between a commercial operation grating tons of
cheese, to be stored, transported, stored, transported, delivered to store,
sit on shelf, finally bought by consumer, transported, sit on shelf, finally
used, and the home user who pre-grates, stores, and uses in relatively short
order. Pre grate at home. Not much of a problem if it saves you time, or
you need to do for someone who can't grate on the fly (arthritis, anyone?)

"Gary" wrote in message ...

jmcquown wrote:
>
> "Gary" wrote in message ...
>
> "George M. Middius" wrote:
> >
> > Steve Freides wrote:
> >
> > > > She asked for grated cheese, but he bought a block instead and she
> > > > *doesn't want* to grate cheese. What can't you understand about
> > > > that?
> > >
> > > Thank you.
> >
> > How long have you two had this debilitating communication problem?
>
> And what a trivial problem it is.
>
> G.
> ***************
>
> At least it's a food related discussion

One thing I like about this ng is that we can feel free to talk OT
occasionally too. Once everyone knows everyone, why not be able to talk
about all? Have a health problem? Tell us and get some support.

Gary
*****************

Oh, I agree with that (somewhat). Many of us have "known" each other for
over a decade. (There *is* no CABAL. Heheh) Still, it's nice to have more
on topic, food related posts

Jill

On Sun, 21 Oct 2012 09:42:07 -0400, Gary > wrote:

>jmcquown wrote:
>>
>> "Gary" wrote in message ...
>>
>> "George M. Middius" wrote:
>> >
>> > Steve Freides wrote:
>> >
>> > > > She asked for grated cheese, but he bought a block instead and she
>> > > > *doesn't want* to grate cheese. What can't you understand about that?
>> > >
>> > > Thank you.
>> >
>> > How long have you two had this debilitating communication problem?
>>
>> And what a trivial problem it is.
>>
>> G.
>> ***************
>>
>> At least it's a food related discussion
>
>One thing I like about this ng is that we can feel free to talk OT
>occasionally too. Once everyone knows everyone, why not be able to talk
>about all? Have a health problem? Tell us and get some support.

Some of us have a PENchant for talking kinky.

Chemo wrote:

> > Tell us about all the nasty sheepish cheese where you live.
>
> this is where I get just about all my cheese.
> http://http://www.roguecreamery.com/store/

High prices! I only buy "artisanal" cheese occasionally.

Your palate must be limited, though -- Rogue appears to have only
cheddar and blue cheeses. That would get old pretty quickly.

Gary wrote:

> One thing I like about this ng is that we can feel free to talk OT
> occasionally too. Once everyone knows everyone, why not be able to talk
> about all? Have a health problem? Tell us and get some support.

I have a big health problem -- no insurance. And your steadfast
support for Romney may cut off even the limited access I have to
health care.