On Thu, 1 Nov 2012 09:22:20 -0400, "Sharon" > wrote:

>
>
>"Dave Smith" wrote in message ...
>
>On 31/10/2012 8:07 PM, Mark Thorson wrote:
>> Dave Smith wrote:
>>>
>>> I was not an avid reader when I was a kid, and a flashlight would go
>>> through a set of batteries quickly. Now I am a reader and can't imagine
>>> going to bed without reading. I have an LED flashlight that runs on 4 AA
>>> batteries and will last for weeks.
>>
>> If you do a lot of reading in bed, you might
>> like a Kindle. The newer models have an
>> illuminated display.
>>
>
>
>Pay for a Kindle? Then pay to download books that I won't own? Nuts to
>that. We have a decent library in town.
>
> Amen to that!! Being a pensioner, I don't spend money on things like
>that, but more to the point for me is that I work one day a week in our
>village volunteer library. I can't see any sense in paying for something
>that can be obtained free and at the same time supporting a small library
>that would close if it didn't have enough patronage.....Sharon in SW Ontario
>Canada


Not everyone has easy access to the library. When I lived in larger
towns there was probably one library in the town center. If you lived
in the suburbs and had a couple of children it was not easy to get
there. I got into the habit of buying books since bookstores were
much closer and easier to get to. I also do not have to wait for the
rest of the town to read the limited number of copies of a new book.
And then there is the other round trip to return the book.

Then came Amazon and I could get a new book shipped on the first day
of sale. Now I can get the book on the Kindle just as soon as it goes
on sale. And I am going to talk to the librarian about how to get the
books for my Kindle. That should be the best of both worlds.

--
Susan N.

"Moral indignation is in most cases two percent moral,
48 percent indignation, and 50 percent envy."
Vittorio De Sica, Italian movie director (1901-1974)

"Julie Bove" > wrote in
:

>

>
> There are clip on book lights but I find that they just suck the life
> out of batteries.
>
>
>


These dont...............

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Portable-...-Light-Laptop-
Computers-Tablets-BLUE-/170925878787


http://tinyurl.com/bshccbz


Peter
Brisbane
Australia

Ed Pawlowski > wrote in
:


>
> To each his own. I thought it would end up a waste of money, but . . .
> My wife loves her Nook. I should say Nooks. She liked it so much
> when the new model came out she bought another. It does more than
> just books too, but she hardly ever touches a real book now.


Samesame. Bought a Kindle for the SO, and she has now read more books than
ever before, and with a *LOT* less clutter around the place.

I got sick of stacks of books all around.

Having said that, I just bought a shiteload of cookbooks for the new
house..... purely because they are going to look good perched on top of the
stand in the kitchen.... and I may even drag them down now and then to
scour through for a recipe..... if my Eeepad is flat, or outta reach :-)


Peter
Brisbane
Australia

"The Cook" > wrote in message
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> On Thu, 1 Nov 2012 09:22:20 -0400, "Sharon" > wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>"Dave Smith" wrote in message ...
>>
>>On 31/10/2012 8:07 PM, Mark Thorson wrote:
>>> Dave Smith wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I was not an avid reader when I was a kid, and a flashlight would go
>>>> through a set of batteries quickly. Now I am a reader and can't imagine
>>>> going to bed without reading. I have an LED flashlight that runs on 4
>>>> AA
>>>> batteries and will last for weeks.
>>>
>>> If you do a lot of reading in bed, you might
>>> like a Kindle. The newer models have an
>>> illuminated display.
>>>
>>
>>
>>Pay for a Kindle? Then pay to download books that I won't own? Nuts to
>>that. We have a decent library in town.
>>
>> Amen to that!! Being a pensioner, I don't spend money on things like
>>that, but more to the point for me is that I work one day a week in our
>>village volunteer library. I can't see any sense in paying for something
>>that can be obtained free and at the same time supporting a small library
>>that would close if it didn't have enough patronage.....Sharon in SW
>>Ontario
>>Canada
>
>
> Not everyone has easy access to the library. When I lived in larger
> towns there was probably one library in the town center. If you lived
> in the suburbs and had a couple of children it was not easy to get
> there. I got into the habit of buying books since bookstores were
> much closer and easier to get to. I also do not have to wait for the
> rest of the town to read the limited number of copies of a new book.
> And then there is the other round trip to return the book.
>
> Then came Amazon and I could get a new book shipped on the first day
> of sale. Now I can get the book on the Kindle just as soon as it goes
> on sale. And I am going to talk to the librarian about how to get the
> books for my Kindle. That should be the best of both worlds.

Back during the late 70's/early 80's, I didn't have a lot of money. I
didn't have cable TV. And no computer. Although at some point during that
time frame my dad and brother had computers. So I went to the library once
a week. For a while. I never got novels. Mostly cookbooks and decorating
books. And other things that caught my eye. But eventually I got to the
point where I felt like I had read every book of interest! Our particular
library didn't get a lot of new books and when they did get them they were
almost always either encyclopedias (do they even make those any more?) or
novels. I don't think you could check out the new novels right away, but I
could be wrong on that. I think you had to read them in the library. After
making a few trips there and finding nothing of interest that I hadn't
already read, I quit going back.

I took my daughter to a library in CA once for a book reading. She wanted
no part of it so we left. She never was one to sit and be read to. Just
didn't like books very much. Still doesn't.

Then when we lived on Staten Island, the school required the kids to get a
public library card so they could take a field trip to the library. This of
course involved the required checking out of books. Would have been okay
with me had they actually returned to the library to return the books. Ah,
but they did not! That was up to the parents to do. And that presented a
problem. Because the library had no parking lot and really very little
street parking near it. And what street parking there was, was always full!
Would have been okay if there were some sort of book drop that you could
pull up to at the street, but they did not. You had to go back into the
library! I wound up assigning the return of the books to my husband.
Because I wasn't able to walk far enough to do it.

The library here is fairly close by and does have a parking lot but it looks
pretty small. I just can't see the point in going there. To me it is a
hassle to check out a book and then return it. I never know when I will
read a book. I rarely ever read at home. Mostly only if my computer is
down for some reason. I generally take the book with me and I would not do
that with a library book. Because I might lose it. And then it might be
two weeks before I get around to reading it. Or longer. So I'd much rather
buy the books. They are usually very cheap to get on Amazon if I get them
used. And even if I get new ones, I usually have plenty of credit there
(through Swagbucks) so they cost me little to nothing. And my nephew makes
money off of them because I give them to him to sell.

"I'm back on the laptop" > wrote in message
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> "Julie Bove" > wrote in
> :
>
>>
>
>>
>> There are clip on book lights but I find that they just suck the life
>> out of batteries.
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> These dont...............
>
> http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Portable-...-Light-Laptop-
> Computers-Tablets-BLUE-/170925878787
>
>
> http://tinyurl.com/bshccbz

That doesn't look like a clip on book light. It looks like a
tablet/computer holder with a light on it. Not the same thing.

On 11/1/2012 10:06 AM, The Cook wrote:
> On Thu, 1 Nov 2012 09:22:20 -0400, "Sharon" > wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> "Dave Smith" wrote in message ...
>>
>> On 31/10/2012 8:07 PM, Mark Thorson wrote:
>>> Dave Smith wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I was not an avid reader when I was a kid, and a flashlight would go
>>>> through a set of batteries quickly. Now I am a reader and can't imagine
>>>> going to bed without reading. I have an LED flashlight that runs on 4 AA
>>>> batteries and will last for weeks.
>>>
>>> If you do a lot of reading in bed, you might
>>> like a Kindle. The newer models have an
>>> illuminated display.
>>>
>>
>>
>> Pay for a Kindle? Then pay to download books that I won't own? Nuts to
>> that. We have a decent library in town.
>>
>> Amen to that!! Being a pensioner, I don't spend money on things like
>> that, but more to the point for me is that I work one day a week in our
>> village volunteer library. I can't see any sense in paying for something
>> that can be obtained free and at the same time supporting a small library
>> that would close if it didn't have enough patronage.....Sharon in SW Ontario
>> Canada
>
>
> Not everyone has easy access to the library. When I lived in larger
> towns there was probably one library in the town center. If you lived
> in the suburbs and had a couple of children it was not easy to get
> there. I got into the habit of buying books since bookstores were
> much closer and easier to get to. I also do not have to wait for the
> rest of the town to read the limited number of copies of a new book.
> And then there is the other round trip to return the book.
>
> Then came Amazon and I could get a new book shipped on the first day
> of sale. Now I can get the book on the Kindle just as soon as it goes
> on sale. And I am going to talk to the librarian about how to get the
> books for my Kindle. That should be the best of both worlds.
>
I have access to two good nearby libraries, which is very convenient
since there is no hope that I could afford all the magazines I read
regularly. I almost always have one or two books on loan.

I bought a Barnes and Noble Illuminated Nook a few months ago and like
it a lot especially for reading on long plane journeys. However, I
regret the gradual disappearance of real book stores. I must admit that
I was pleased when Borders opened and I went there a lot. The large
stores had competitive pricing initially tho' Borders dropped many
discounts when they were flailing in the throes of bankruptcy. The same
thing happened in the past when the Crown chain initially destroyed
local bookstores with aggressive pricing. They also went into bankruptcy
leaving practically no local bookstores now apart from Barnes and Noble,
which only offers discounts on store specials.

I admit I do buy books, sometimes e-books, from Amazon and B&N but I
very much regret not being able to browse in real book stores. I feel
guilty now about buying books online and patronizing the once discount
stores. I don't feel that I have gained "the best of both worlds" at all.
--
Jim Silverton (Potomac, MD)

Extraneous "not" in Reply To.

On 11/1/2012 10:32 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
> "I'm back on the laptop" > wrote in message
> ...
>> "Julie Bove" > wrote in
>> :
>>
>>>
>>
>>>
>>> There are clip on book lights but I find that they just suck the life
>>> out of batteries.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> These dont...............
>>
>> http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Portable-...-Light-Laptop-
>> Computers-Tablets-BLUE-/170925878787
>>
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/bshccbz
>
> That doesn't look like a clip on book light. It looks like a
> tablet/computer holder with a light on it. Not the same thing.
>
>
I bought an LED light with a headband from REI that was most useful for
library and paperback books during the latest power outage even if I
have an illuminated Nook.

--
Jim Silverton (Potomac, MD)

Extraneous "not" in Reply To.

On 10/31/2012 5:52 PM, Andy wrote:

> I've found a solution to the problem. A missed opportunity.A
> sport cloth/elastic headband and slip the flashlight under it,
> the flashlight resting on my ear, held in place by the
> headband. More assuredly keeping the light on the page.
>
> I will buy one tod see if it's practical for future outages!
> ;-)
>
> I remember the "lights out" experience you describe. Like
> being in a tent a million miles from home.
>
> Best,
>
> Andy

Andy, just picturing you with a flashlight strapped to your head, gave
me the giggles. If you do it, I would love to see the photos.

Becca

"Julie Bove" wrote in message ...


"The Cook" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 31 Oct 2012 20:08:20 -0400, "jmcquown" >
> wrote:
>
>>"Dave Smith" wrote in message ...
>>
>>On 31/10/2012 8:07 PM, Mark Thorson wrote:
>>> Dave Smith wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I was not an avid reader when I was a kid, and a flashlight would go
>>>> through a set of batteries quickly. Now I am a reader and can't imagine
>>>> going to bed without reading. I have an LED flashlight that runs on 4
>>>> AA
>>>> batteries and will last for weeks.
>>>
>>> If you do a lot of reading in bed, you might
>>> like a Kindle. The newer models have an
>>> illuminated display.
>>>
>>
>>
>>Pay for a Kindle? Then pay to download books that I won't own? Nuts to
>>that. We have a decent library in town.
>>
>>
>>
>>I feel the same way, Dave. Besides, I like the feel of a book in my
>>hands.
>>I like to save my place with an actual bookmark, not "bookmark this page"
>>on
>>a screen.
>>
>>Jill
>
> I didn't think I would like a Kindle until my son gave me one for
> Christmas a couple of years ago. Now I love it. And you don't have
> to "bookmark this page" when you put it down. It goes off
> automatically and when turn it back on it is right there. Many books
> that are out of print are available for Kindle for a couple of
> dollars. And the ability to keep lots of book readily available is
> great.
>
> Kindle is easy to read in almost any light. I frequently read it in
> the car when traveling. I can take several books to read on a
> vacation. And holding one of Ken Follett's books for a while is not
> fun.
>
> Now many public libraries have e-books available . I need to talk to
> the librarian about getting my account set up for it when I take the
> next load of books down there. I have run out of room for more books
> and bookcases.

I don't have a Kindle but so much information is available online now, I got
rid of most of my books.



There is a "library" on the island where I live. We take our gently used
books and drop them off. (Volunteers sort and shelve them.) There's always
something there I haven't read yet. I pick up 5-6 books a couple of times a
month so I always have a few books to read.

Jill

On 10/31/2012 7:44 PM, Andy wrote:

> Pennsylvania Energy Co. (PECO), in preparation for Hurricane
> Sandy announced a free app for android and iPhone that does
> just what you describe. But after Sandy, the app turned out to
> be nothing but crap. It was easily overwhelmed with queries
> and their repair times became wild guesses.

When the power goes out, our utility company telephones, and tells us
when the power will be turned back on. They do not do that after a
hurricane, though, there is too much damage and they have no idea when
the power will be turned back on.

Becca

On 10/31/2012 9:36 PM, Julie Bove wrote:

> When Angela was young I used to chastise her for wanting to play with a
> flashlight. I guess I was thinking of how things were when I was a kid.
> Batteries were rather expensive and they didn't last very long. But now we
> buy them for cheap at Costco and they do seem to last a lot longer than they
> used to. We actually do use a lot of battery operated lamps here in the
> house on a regular basis and I only have to change the batteries maybe 3-4
> times a year.

We have flashlights, but we use oil lamps like this one, to light up a
room when the power goes out. They are not expensive, and you can read a
book using one of these.

http://www.amazon.com/Lamplight-110-...words=oil+lamp

Becca

On 01/11/2012 10:06 AM, The Cook wrote:

>> Pay for a Kindle? Then pay to download books that I won't own? Nuts to
>> that. We have a decent library in town.
>>
>> Amen to that!! Being a pensioner, I don't spend money on things like
>> that, but more to the point for me is that I work one day a week in our
>> village volunteer library. I can't see any sense in paying for something
>> that can be obtained free and at the same time supporting a small library
>> that would close if it didn't have enough patronage.....Sharon in SW Ontario
>> Canada
>
>
> Not everyone has easy access to the library. When I lived in larger
> towns there was probably one library in the town center. If you lived
> in the suburbs and had a couple of children it was not easy to get
> there. I got into the habit of buying books since bookstores were
> much closer and easier to get to. I also do not have to wait for the
> rest of the town to read the limited number of copies of a new book.
> And then there is the other round trip to return the book.


True, but I do ;-) I live between the two villages in my town and there
is a library at each. It is two miles to on and three to the other, and
I usually go by bicycle a coupe times per week.


I was not much of a reader in my youth, but my older brother was always
a very avid reader. He bought several paperbacks per week and when he
had a particularly good one he would pass it on to me, so I had a good
supply of interesting books. I often asked him why he didn't go to the
library instead of buying books. Bad idea. He discovered the library
and I lost my supply or recommended reading. But then I started going
to the library more regularly. I used to always finish any book that I
had started, but I realized that since it had cost me nothing for the
books I didn't have to waste my time by reading them and lose my
interest in reading.



> Then came Amazon and I could get a new book shipped on the first day
> of sale. Now I can get the book on the Kindle just as soon as it goes
> on sale. And I am going to talk to the librarian about how to get the
> books for my Kindle. That should be the best of both worlds.


But what do you do with all the books after they have been read once? My
wife and I both went to university and kept our text books. We have a
collection of art books that we look at frequently, cook books that are
consulted occasionally, hundreds of novels that aren't likely ever to
be read again. I have sets of bookshelve sin 5 roooms in the house. My
wife hates to discard books and I don't want any more accumulating.


>

"Dave Smith" wrote in message ...

On 01/11/2012 10:06 AM, The Cook wrote:

>> Pay for a Kindle? Then pay to download books that I won't own? Nuts to
>> that. We have a decent library in town.
>>
>> Amen to that!! Being a pensioner, I don't spend money on things like
>> that, but more to the point for me is that I work one day a week in our
>> village volunteer library. I can't see any sense in paying for something
>> that can be obtained free and at the same time supporting a small library
>> that would close if it didn't have enough patronage.....Sharon in SW
>> Ontario
>> Canada
>
>
> Not everyone has easy access to the library. When I lived in larger
> towns there was probably one library in the town center. If you lived
> in the suburbs and had a couple of children it was not easy to get
> there. I got into the habit of buying books since bookstores were
> much closer and easier to get to. I also do not have to wait for the
> rest of the town to read the limited number of copies of a new book.
> And then there is the other round trip to return the book.


True, but I do ;-) I live between the two villages in my town and there
is a library at each. It is two miles to on and three to the other, and
I usually go by bicycle a coupe times per week.


I was not much of a reader in my youth, but my older brother was always
a very avid reader. He bought several paperbacks per week and when he
had a particularly good one he would pass it on to me, so I had a good
supply of interesting books. I often asked him why he didn't go to the
library instead of buying books. Bad idea. He discovered the library
and I lost my supply or recommended reading. But then I started going
to the library more regularly. I used to always finish any book that I
had started, but I realized that since it had cost me nothing for the
books I didn't have to waste my time by reading them and lose my
interest in reading.



> Then came Amazon and I could get a new book shipped on the first day
> of sale. Now I can get the book on the Kindle just as soon as it goes
> on sale. And I am going to talk to the librarian about how to get the
> books for my Kindle. That should be the best of both worlds.


But what do you do with all the books after they have been read once? My
wife and I both went to university and kept our text books. We have a
collection of art books that we look at frequently, cook books that are
consulted occasionally, hundreds of novels that aren't likely ever to
be read again. I have sets of bookshelve sin 5 roooms in the house. My
wife hates to discard books and I don't want any more accumulating.


>

We have books brought in for donation by people who buy them and don't
want to keep them. We have a sale table and charge 25 cents each. Often,
the purchasers will donate them back and we can sell them to someone else.
It helps us to get in new books or supplies for the library. We're only
partially supported by the county. Some of our patrons have e readers, but
still take out books...Sharon

On Thu, 01 Nov 2012 06:07:26 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

> I sometimes get little blips for seconds. Just as the satellite box
> would reboot, it would happen again. I got a UPS and it acts as a
> surge protector and backup. I heard it click on and off a few times
> during the storm, no interruptions though.

UPS? The only USP I've heard of is United Parcel Service.

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

On Thu, 01 Nov 2012 13:29:39 -0700, sf > wrote:

>On Thu, 01 Nov 2012 06:07:26 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>
>> I sometimes get little blips for seconds. Just as the satellite box
>> would reboot, it would happen again. I got a UPS and it acts as a
>> surge protector and backup. I heard it click on and off a few times
>> during the storm, no interruptions though.
>
>UPS? The only USP I've heard of is United Parcel Service.

UPS -- Uninterruptible Power Supply
--
Susan N.

"Moral indignation is in most cases two percent moral,
48 percent indignation, and 50 percent envy."
Vittorio De Sica, Italian movie director (1901-1974)

On Thu, 01 Nov 2012 16:32:58 -0400, The Cook >
wrote:

>
> UPS -- Uninterruptible Power Supply

Thanks Susan!


--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

On Nov 1, 7:31*am, "Julie Bove" > wrote:
> "The Cook" > wrote in message
>
> ...
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Thu, 1 Nov 2012 09:22:20 -0400, "Sharon" > wrote:
>
> >>"Dave Smith" *wrote in ...
>
> >>On 31/10/2012 8:07 PM, Mark Thorson wrote:
> >>> Dave Smith wrote:
>
> >>>> I was not an avid reader when I was a kid, and a flashlight would go
> >>>> through a set of batteries quickly. Now I am a reader and can't imagine
> >>>> going to bed without reading. I have an LED flashlight that runs on 4
> >>>> AA
> >>>> batteries and will last for weeks.
>
> >>> If you do a lot of reading in bed, you might
> >>> like a Kindle. *The newer models have an
> >>> illuminated display.
>
> >>Pay for a Kindle? *Then pay to download books that I won't own? Nuts to
> >>that. We have a decent library in town.
>
> >> * Amen to that!! *Being a pensioner, I don't spend money on things like
> >>that, but more to the point for me is that I work one day a week in our
> >>village volunteer library. *I can't see any sense in paying for something
> >>that can be obtained free and at the same time supporting a small library
> >>that would close if it didn't have enough patronage.....Sharon in SW
> >>Ontario
> >>Canada
>
> > Not everyone has easy access to the library. *When I lived in larger
> > towns there was probably one library in the town center. *If you lived
> > in the suburbs and had a couple of children it was not easy to get
> > there. *I got into the habit of buying books since bookstores were
> > much closer and easier to get to. *I also do not have to wait for the
> > rest of the town to read the limited number of copies of a new book.
> > And then there is the other round trip to return the book.
>
> > Then came Amazon and I could get a new book shipped on the first day
> > of sale. *Now I can get the book on the Kindle just as soon as it goes
> > on sale. *And I am going to talk to the librarian about how to get the
> > books for my Kindle. *That should be the best of both worlds.
>
> Back during the late 70's/early 80's, I didn't have a lot of money. *I
> didn't have cable TV. *And no computer. *Although at some point during that
> time frame my dad and brother had computers. *So I went to the library once
> a week. *For a while. *I never got novels. *Mostly cookbooks and decorating
> books. *And other things that caught my eye. *But eventually I got to the
> point where I felt like I had read every book of interest! *Our particular
> library didn't get a lot of new books and when they did get them they were
> almost always either encyclopedias (do they even make those any more?) or
> novels. *I don't think you could check out the new novels right away, but I
> could be wrong on that. *I think you had to read them in the library. *After
> making a few trips there and finding nothing of interest that I hadn't
> already read, I quit going back.
>
> I took my daughter to a library in CA once for a book reading. *She wanted
> no part of it so we left. *She never was one to sit and be read to. *Just
> didn't like books very much. *Still doesn't.
>
> Then when we lived on Staten Island, the school required the kids to get a
> public library card so they could take a field trip to the library. *This of
> course involved the required checking out of books. *Would have been okay
> with me had they actually returned to the library to return the books. *Ah,
> but they did not! *That was up to the parents to do. *And that presented a
> problem. *Because the library had no parking lot and really very little
> street parking near it. *And what street parking there was, was always full!
> Would have been okay if there were some sort of book drop that you could
> pull up to at the street, but they did not. *You had to go back into the
> library! *I wound up assigning the return of the books to my husband.
> Because I wasn't able to walk far enough to do it.
>
> The library here is fairly close by and does have a parking lot but it looks
> pretty small. *I just can't see the point in going there. *To me it is a
> hassle to check out a book and then return it. *I never know when I will
> read a book. *I rarely ever read at home. *Mostly only if my computer is
> down for some reason. *I generally take the book with me and I would not do
> that with a library book. *Because I might lose it. *And then it might be
> two weeks before I get around to reading it. *Or longer. *So I'd much rather
> buy the books. *They are usually very cheap to get on Amazon if I get them
> used. *And even if I get new ones, I usually have plenty of credit there
> (through Swagbucks) so they cost me little to nothing. *And my nephew makes
> money off of them because I give them to him to sell.

LOLOL! This was a great reply- thanks for the laugh!

Andy wrote:
>
> Printed books that are professionally typeset can be a joy to
> read. That and I love the smell fresh ink. At the bookstore,
> the first thing I do is open it and sniff. It smells so
> beautiful... toooo me.

So....you're a book sniffer eh? Just as I always suspected.

Julie Bove wrote:
>
> Quite a lot of the Kindle books are free. But do I own one? No. And I
> don't think I would want one. I also wouldn't use a library. Too much
> hassle to go get the books and return them.

LOL! Julie, you really do post so many negative things. As much as I read,
I wouldn't be able to afford buying new books all the time. The public
library is one of the best things provided, imo.

That said, I live only one mile from my library branch, so it's not like I
have to travel far to check out and return.

Gary

Julie Bove wrote:
>
> I don't have a Kindle but so much information is available online now, I got
> rid of most of my books.

I don't have a Kindle either but I'll probably try one someday. That said, I
do love my printed books. I have many bookshelfs filled to the hilt and so
many books to warrant even more bookshelves. I only get rid of books that
I've read once and didn't like.

Gary

"Julie Bove" > wrote in news:k6u16m$gji$1@dont-
email.me:

>
> "I'm back on the laptop" > wrote in message
> ...
>> "Julie Bove" > wrote in
>> :
>>
>>>
>>
>>>
>>> There are clip on book lights but I find that they just suck the life
>>> out of batteries.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> These dont...............
>>
>> http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Portable-...-Light-Laptop-
>> Computers-Tablets-BLUE-/170925878787
>>
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/bshccbz
>
> That doesn't look like a clip on book light. It looks like a
> tablet/computer holder with a light on it. Not the same thing.
>
>



Well, jeez, the name should have given it away straight away!!

"Portable-Lap-Desk-Stable-Table-Light-Laptop-Computers-Tablets"

It is a "Stable Table", designed to go on your knees while you sit, or
basically anywhere, and remain stable.

The SO uses one for reading, sewing, eating, fixing things..... and the
batteries seems to last quite a long time.

As stated, it has a multitude of uses, whereas a "clip-on book light" is
basically just that. And not much good for anything else.


Peter
Brisbane
Australia

On Thu, 01 Nov 2012 13:29:39 -0700, sf > wrote:

>On Thu, 01 Nov 2012 06:07:26 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>
>> I sometimes get little blips for seconds. Just as the satellite box
>> would reboot, it would happen again. I got a UPS and it acts as a
>> surge protector and backup. I heard it click on and off a few times
>> during the storm, no interruptions though.
>
>UPS? The only USP I've heard of is United Parcel Service.

Uninterruptible power supply. The two I have are APC, about $50 from
Staples, etc.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uninter...e_power_supply

On Thu, 01 Nov 2012 23:28:19 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

> On Thu, 01 Nov 2012 13:29:39 -0700, sf > wrote:
>
> >On Thu, 01 Nov 2012 06:07:26 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
> >
> >> I sometimes get little blips for seconds. Just as the satellite box
> >> would reboot, it would happen again. I got a UPS and it acts as a
> >> surge protector and backup. I heard it click on and off a few times
> >> during the storm, no interruptions though.
> >
> >UPS? The only USP I've heard of is United Parcel Service.
>
> Uninterruptible power supply. The two I have are APC, about $50 from
> Staples, etc.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uninter...e_power_supply

Thanks!


--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

Ed Pawlowski > wrote in
:

> On Thu, 01 Nov 2012 13:29:39 -0700, sf > wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 01 Nov 2012 06:07:26 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>>
>>> I sometimes get little blips for seconds. Just as the satellite box
>>> would reboot, it would happen again. I got a UPS and it acts as a
>>> surge protector and backup. I heard it click on and off a few times
>>> during the storm, no interruptions though.
>>
>>UPS? The only USP I've heard of is United Parcel Service.
>
> Uninterruptible power supply. The two I have are APC, about $50 from
> Staples, etc.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uninter...e_power_supply
>


I have them on my home computer upstairs and TV/set top box etc
downstairs....... and on the computers at work.

They have come in *REAL* handy, quite a few times.


Peter
Brisbane
Australia

On Thu, 01 Nov 2012 23:28:19 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

>On Thu, 01 Nov 2012 13:29:39 -0700, sf > wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 01 Nov 2012 06:07:26 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>>
>>> I sometimes get little blips for seconds. Just as the satellite box
>>> would reboot, it would happen again. I got a UPS and it acts as a
>>> surge protector and backup. I heard it click on and off a few times
>>> during the storm, no interruptions though.
>>
>>UPS? The only USP I've heard of is United Parcel Service.
>
>Uninterruptible power supply. The two I have are APC, about $50 from
>Staples, etc.
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uninter...e_power_supply

I just bought one to replace the one that died after six years and it
arrived yesterday, plugged in to charge for a day.
http://www.amazon.com/APC-BR1000G-Ba.../dp/B0038ZTZ3W

Brooklyn1 <Gravesend1> wrote:
> On Thu, 01 Nov 2012 23:28:19 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 01 Nov 2012 13:29:39 -0700, sf > wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 01 Nov 2012 06:07:26 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>>>
>>>> I sometimes get little blips for seconds. Just as the satellite box
>>>> would reboot, it would happen again. I got a UPS and it acts as a
>>>> surge protector and backup. I heard it click on and off a few times
>>>> during the storm, no interruptions though.
>>>
>>> UPS? The only USP I've heard of is United Parcel Service.
>>
>> Uninterruptible power supply. The two I have are APC, about $50 from
>> Staples, etc.
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uninter...e_power_supply
>
> I just bought one to replace the one that died after six years and it
> arrived yesterday, plugged in to charge for a day.
> http://www.amazon.com/APC-BR1000G-Ba.../dp/B0038ZTZ3W

Typical longevity or less. Mostly less, or just does not power something
for long.


Greg