"Andy" wrote in message ...

"I'm back on the laptop" > wrote:

> Makes your power outage seem like a minor inconvenience, hey?



Yeah, 24 hour minor inconvenience. I couldn't even read a book!

Andy



You could have used a flashlight I'm glad you got your power back in
such a timely manner.

Jill

"Andy" wrote in message ...

"jmcquown" > wrote:

> Yeah, 24 hour minor inconvenience. I couldn't even read a
> book!
>
> Andy
>
>
>
> You could have used a flashlight I'm glad you got your
> power back in such a timely manner.



Jill,

I actually gave some thought to rigging a flashlight stand
contraption but decided I didn't have the mechanical


wizardry or materials. A table miniature gooseneck microphone
stand would have been ideal but it wouldn't get used very often.

I thought about an audio book but the power could come on before
chapter ends.

I had called the electric company in the early morning three or
four times with "the squeaky wheel gets the grease" hopes. I'd
say it worked well. With traffic signals out, downed trees on
the roads and on wires, and flooded and washed out roads, the
entire restoration process was a slow-motion challenge, and
still is.

Bet,

Andy



No real need to rig up any contraption. When the power goes out, I'm on the
couch with a pillow behind me and a flashlight balanced between the arm of
the couch and the pillow behind my head. Or you could buy a clip-on book
light They're usually gooseneck types so you could clip it to a table or
to the book itself if it's a hardback book.

Jill

On Wed, 31 Oct 2012 09:50:09 -0400, "jmcquown" >
wrote:

> "Andy" wrote in message ...
>
> "I'm back on the laptop" > wrote:
>
> > Makes your power outage seem like a minor inconvenience, hey?
>
>
>
> Yeah, 24 hour minor inconvenience. I couldn't even read a book!
>
> Andy
>
>
>
> You could have used a flashlight I'm glad you got your power back in
> such a timely manner.
>
I listen to CNN and MSNBC on Sirius radio and one of them had some
mayor who was talking about the new practice of powering down instead
of keeping everything running until it breaks down. She said it saves
equipment, billions of dollars and they get everything powered back up
faster when it's time to turn the power back on.

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

"sf" wrote in message news
On Wed, 31 Oct 2012 09:50:09 -0400, "jmcquown" >
wrote:

> "Andy" wrote in message ...
>
> "I'm back on the laptop" > wrote:
>
> > Makes your power outage seem like a minor inconvenience, hey?
>
>
>
> Yeah, 24 hour minor inconvenience. I couldn't even read a book!
>
> Andy
>
>
>
> You could have used a flashlight I'm glad you got your power back in
> such a timely manner.
>
I listen to CNN and MSNBC on Sirius radio and one of them had some
mayor who was talking about the new practice of powering down instead
of keeping everything running until it breaks down. She said it saves
equipment, billions of dollars and they get everything powered back up
faster when it's time to turn the power back on.

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.


That makes sense. (It also makes sense to do if you're going on vacation
for a week or a month.) Unplug televisions, lamps, radios, the toaster, the
coffee maker. Stuff like that. I'm not sure I'd go to the extreme of
unplugging *every* lamp if I were simply away for a short trip. In a case
of a storm like this, yes, unplug all the lamps you don't need. Lighten the
load on the electrical providers so you don't wind up in a blackout.

Jill

On Wed, 31 Oct 2012 15:21:00 -0400, "jmcquown" >
wrote:

>
> That makes sense. (It also makes sense to do if you're going on vacation
> for a week or a month.) Unplug televisions, lamps, radios, the toaster, the
> coffee maker. Stuff like that. I'm not sure I'd go to the extreme of
> unplugging *every* lamp if I were simply away for a short trip. In a case
> of a storm like this, yes, unplug all the lamps you don't need. Lighten the
> load on the electrical providers so you don't wind up in a blackout.

Blackouts are rare here, but I found out that the converter box on one
TV powered itself down because it hadn't been used for x weeks...
which was a PITA because I didn't know the TV wasn't working because
it needed the cable company to send a signal and wake it up.

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

On Wed, 31 Oct 2012 11:37:42 -0400, "jmcquown" >
wrote:

>"Andy" wrote in message ...
>
>"jmcquown" > wrote:
>
>> Yeah, 24 hour minor inconvenience. I couldn't even read a
>> book!
>>
>> Andy
>>
>>
>>
>> You could have used a flashlight I'm glad you got your
>> power back in such a timely manner.
>
>
>
>Jill,
>
>I actually gave some thought to rigging a flashlight stand
>contraption but decided I didn't have the mechanical
>
>
>wizardry or materials. A table miniature gooseneck microphone
>stand would have been ideal but it wouldn't get used very often.
>
>I thought about an audio book but the power could come on before
>chapter ends.
>
>I had called the electric company in the early morning three or
>four times with "the squeaky wheel gets the grease" hopes. I'd
>say it worked well. With traffic signals out, downed trees on
>the roads and on wires, and flooded and washed out roads, the
>entire restoration process was a slow-motion challenge, and
>still is.
>
>Bet,
>
>Andy
>
>
>
>No real need to rig up any contraption. When the power goes out, I'm on the
>couch with a pillow behind me and a flashlight balanced between the arm of
>the couch and the pillow behind my head. Or you could buy a clip-on book
>light They're usually gooseneck types so you could clip it to a table or
>to the book itself if it's a hardback book.
>
>Jill

If you get some of those new little 80 or 100 lumens flashlights, you
can balance it on your shoulder as you recline. These flashlight are
brighter than the usual ones and you can find them everywhere now. .
..2 or 3 for $15-19, Dandy little things, I have one stashed
everywhere, including my purse.
Janet US

On Wed, 31 Oct 2012 09:10:29 -0700, sf > wrote:

>On Wed, 31 Oct 2012 09:50:09 -0400, "jmcquown" >
>wrote:
>
>> "Andy" wrote in message ...
>>
>> "I'm back on the laptop" > wrote:
>>
>> > Makes your power outage seem like a minor inconvenience, hey?
>>
>>
>>
>> Yeah, 24 hour minor inconvenience. I couldn't even read a book!
>>
>> Andy
>>
>>
>>
>> You could have used a flashlight I'm glad you got your power back in
>> such a timely manner.
>>
>I listen to CNN and MSNBC on Sirius radio and one of them had some
>mayor who was talking about the new practice of powering down instead
>of keeping everything running until it breaks down. She said it saves
>equipment, billions of dollars and they get everything powered back up
>faster when it's time to turn the power back on.

Yes, in this particular case it means that only the electrical and so
forth are damaged. They ran all the trains, buses, and whatever they
could move out of the tunnels. That still leaves a bunch of critical
and expensive stuff subject to damage. You knew that LaGuardia was
under water up to the bottom of the gangways, didn't you? I wouldn't
have missed seeing this on TV. It's been educational.
Janet US

Andy wrote:
>
> "jmcquown" > wrote:
> > You could have used a flashlight
>
> I actually gave some thought to rigging a flashlight stand contraption
> but decided I didn't have the mechanical wizardry or materials.

You needn't rig some flashlight stand, Andy. heheh
Just do what I did when I was a kid and my parents told me "lights out"
I read under the covers using a flashlight.

On Wed, 31 Oct 2012 14:24:29 -0600, Janet Bostwick
> wrote:

> You knew that LaGuardia was
> under water up to the bottom of the gangways, didn't you? I wouldn't
> have missed seeing this on TV. It's been educational.

I've missed a lot of the storm-watch news because we have World
Series-watch here. The parade is over and I'm watching the
festivities at City Hall now. If you want a keepsake picture of you
and the trophy, here's where to do it
http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/ps/y2012/virtual_trophy.jsp

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

On Wed, 31 Oct 2012 14:07:12 -0700, sf > wrote:

>On Wed, 31 Oct 2012 14:24:29 -0600, Janet Bostwick
> wrote:
>
>> You knew that LaGuardia was
>> under water up to the bottom of the gangways, didn't you? I wouldn't
>> have missed seeing this on TV. It's been educational.
>
>I've missed a lot of the storm-watch news because we have World
>Series-watch here. The parade is over and I'm watching the
>festivities at City Hall now. If you want a keepsake picture of you
>and the trophy, here's where to do it
>http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/ps/y2012/virtual_trophy.jsp

that's pretty neat. I'll do that for my DIL in SF who is a fan.
thanks
Janet US

On Wed, 31 Oct 2012 14:19:55 -0600, Janet Bostwick
> wrote:

>On Wed, 31 Oct 2012 11:37:42 -0400, "jmcquown" >
>wrote:
>
>>"Andy" wrote in message ...
>>
>>"jmcquown" > wrote:
>>
>>> Yeah, 24 hour minor inconvenience. I couldn't even read a
>>> book!
>>>
>>> Andy
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> You could have used a flashlight I'm glad you got your
>>> power back in such a timely manner.
>>
>>
>>
>>Jill,
>>
>>I actually gave some thought to rigging a flashlight stand
>>contraption but decided I didn't have the mechanical
>>
>>
>>wizardry or materials. A table miniature gooseneck microphone
>>stand would have been ideal but it wouldn't get used very often.
>>
>>I thought about an audio book but the power could come on before
>>chapter ends.
>>
>>I had called the electric company in the early morning three or
>>four times with "the squeaky wheel gets the grease" hopes. I'd
>>say it worked well. With traffic signals out, downed trees on
>>the roads and on wires, and flooded and washed out roads, the
>>entire restoration process was a slow-motion challenge, and
>>still is.
>>
>>Bet,
>>
>>Andy
>>
>>
>>
>>No real need to rig up any contraption. When the power goes out, I'm on the
>>couch with a pillow behind me and a flashlight balanced between the arm of
>>the couch and the pillow behind my head. Or you could buy a clip-on book
>>light They're usually gooseneck types so you could clip it to a table or
>>to the book itself if it's a hardback book.
>>
>>Jill
>
>If you get some of those new little 80 or 100 lumens flashlights, you
>can balance it on your shoulder as you recline.
>Janet US

Not fair, yoose gals have a built in flashlight support.

I have this, it lights an entire room, gives more than enough light
for reading without having to go through contortions, just place it on
a table.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...ls_o02_s00_i00
I have this too, works great and can even charge a cell phone.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...ls_o02_s00_i01

On Wed, 31 Oct 2012 17:16:20 -0400, Brooklyn1 <Gravesend1> wrote:

snip
>
>Not fair, yoose gals have a built in flashlight support.
>
>I have this, it lights an entire room, gives more than enough light
>for reading without having to go through contortions, just place it on
>a table.
>http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...ls_o02_s00_i00
>I have this too, works great and can even charge a cell phone.
>http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...ls_o02_s00_i01

Nice
Janet US

"Janet Bostwick" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 31 Oct 2012 17:16:20 -0400, Brooklyn1 <Gravesend1> wrote:
>
> snip
>>
>>Not fair, yoose gals have a built in flashlight support.
>>
>>I have this, it lights an entire room, gives more than enough light
>>for reading without having to go through contortions, just place it on
>>a table.
>>http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...ls_o02_s00_i00
>>I have this too, works great and can even charge a cell phone.
>>http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...ls_o02_s00_i01
>
> Nice
> Janet US

I have some battery operated lamps that are quite nice. Each one takes 4 D
cell batteries and I don't have to change the batteries very often. We
actually use them all the time. This house has very poor lighting in it. I
put them in places where there isn't enough light and no good feasible way
to otherwise put a light there. I also have a few little gooseneck lamps.
They don't put out as much light and it is a harsher light because it is
LED. But it is quite handy to have one on my computer desk. It's really
tiny and doesn't take up much space.

On 31/10/2012 3:51 PM, sf wrote:

> Blackouts are rare here, but I found out that the converter box on one
> TV powered itself down because it hadn't been used for x weeks...
> which was a PITA because I didn't know the TV wasn't working because
> it needed the cable company to send a signal and wake it up.

For years I was impressed with the fact that we rarely lost electrical
power. Then we went through a period of frequent short outages. A coupe
years ago we had a serious wind storm than knocked out our power for
about 16 hours in late April when the ground is wet and my sump pump is
very active. We had some flooding in my cellar, but it is a cellar, so
not a major problem. Lately, the power supply has been much more
reliable. We did not lose power this week. Thankfully, the storm had
lost most of its bite by the time it hit us, but still, no power loss.

On 31/10/2012 4:51 PM, Gary wrote:

> You needn't rig some flashlight stand, Andy. heheh
> Just do what I did when I was a kid and my parents told me "lights out"
> I read under the covers using a flashlight.
>

I was not an avid reader when I was a kid, and a flashlight would go
through a set of batteries quickly. Now I am a reader and can't imagine
going to bed without reading. I have an LED flashlight that runs on 4 AA
batteries and will last for weeks.

On 31/10/2012 8:07 PM, Mark Thorson wrote:
> Dave Smith wrote:
>>
>> I was not an avid reader when I was a kid, and a flashlight would go
>> through a set of batteries quickly. Now I am a reader and can't imagine
>> going to bed without reading. I have an LED flashlight that runs on 4 AA
>> batteries and will last for weeks.
>
> If you do a lot of reading in bed, you might
> like a Kindle. The newer models have an
> illuminated display.
>


Pay for a Kindle? Then pay to download books that I won't own? Nuts to
that. We have a decent library in town.

"Dave Smith" > wrote in message
...
> On 31/10/2012 8:07 PM, Mark Thorson wrote:
>> Dave Smith wrote:
>>>
>>> I was not an avid reader when I was a kid, and a flashlight would go
>>> through a set of batteries quickly. Now I am a reader and can't imagine
>>> going to bed without reading. I have an LED flashlight that runs on 4 AA
>>> batteries and will last for weeks.
>>
>> If you do a lot of reading in bed, you might
>> like a Kindle. The newer models have an
>> illuminated display.
>>
>
>
> Pay for a Kindle? Then pay to download books that I won't own? Nuts to
> that. We have a decent library in town.

Quite a lot of the Kindle books are free. But do I own one? No. And I
don't think I would want one. I also wouldn't use a library. Too much
hassle to go get the books and return them.

Once in a while I buy some books at Target or Costco but mostly I get used
ones online. I do read very quickly. Most of the time I can finish a book
in 2 hours. I then pass them on to my mom who may or may not read them.
She passes them on to my nephew who sells them.

But most of my reading is magazines. I get a lot of them for free or maybe
$2.95 to $4.95 per year. I get all kinds. And then I pass them on to
someone I know.

Andy > wrote in :

> "jmcquown" > wrote:
>
>> Yeah, 24 hour minor inconvenience. I couldn't even read a
>> book!
>>

>
> I actually gave some thought to rigging a flashlight stand
> contraption but decided I didn't have the mechanical
>
>
> wizardry or materials. A table miniature gooseneck microphone
> stand would have been ideal but it wouldn't get used very often.



I'm sure you'd have these sorts of things over there, and they have a
multitude of uses :-)

I think it takes a couple AA batteries.



http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Portable-...-Light-Laptop-
Computers-Tablets-BLUE-/170925878787


http://tinyurl.com/bshccbz



>
> I had called the electric company in the early morning three or
> four times with "the squeaky wheel gets the grease" hopes. I'd
> say it worked well.



You're lucky!!
When we call the power company over here, we get to talk to a computer who
gives us an 'update' on where the power is out, and how long it's expected
to be that way.



Peter
Brisbane
Australia

"Gary" wrote in message ...

Andy wrote:
>
> "jmcquown" > wrote:
> > You could have used a flashlight
>
> I actually gave some thought to rigging a flashlight stand contraption
> but decided I didn't have the mechanical wizardry or materials.

You needn't rig some flashlight stand, Andy. heheh
Just do what I did when I was a kid and my parents told me "lights out"
I read under the covers using a flashlight.


I almost mentioned that, Gary! But I've only seen that done in the movies


Jill

Dave Smith wrote:
>
> I was not an avid reader when I was a kid, and a flashlight would go
> through a set of batteries quickly. Now I am a reader and can't imagine
> going to bed without reading. I have an LED flashlight that runs on 4 AA
> batteries and will last for weeks.

If you do a lot of reading in bed, you might
like a Kindle. The newer models have an
illuminated display.

"Dave Smith" wrote in message ...

On 31/10/2012 8:07 PM, Mark Thorson wrote:
> Dave Smith wrote:
>>
>> I was not an avid reader when I was a kid, and a flashlight would go
>> through a set of batteries quickly. Now I am a reader and can't imagine
>> going to bed without reading. I have an LED flashlight that runs on 4 AA
>> batteries and will last for weeks.
>
> If you do a lot of reading in bed, you might
> like a Kindle. The newer models have an
> illuminated display.
>


Pay for a Kindle? Then pay to download books that I won't own? Nuts to
that. We have a decent library in town.



I feel the same way, Dave. Besides, I like the feel of a book in my hands.
I like to save my place with an actual bookmark, not "bookmark this page" on
a screen.

Jill

"Brooklyn1" wrote in message
...

On Wed, 31 Oct 2012 14:19:55 -0600, Janet Bostwick
> wrote:

>On Wed, 31 Oct 2012 11:37:42 -0400, "jmcquown" >
>wrote:
>
>>"Andy" wrote in message ...
>>
>>"jmcquown" > wrote:
>>
>>> Yeah, 24 hour minor inconvenience. I couldn't even read a
>>> book!
>>>
>>> Andy
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> You could have used a flashlight I'm glad you got your
>>> power back in such a timely manner.
>>
>>
>>
>>Jill,
>>
>>I actually gave some thought to rigging a flashlight stand
>>contraption but decided I didn't have the mechanical
>>
>>
>>wizardry or materials. A table miniature gooseneck microphone
>>stand would have been ideal but it wouldn't get used very often.
>>
>>I thought about an audio book but the power could come on before
>>chapter ends.
>>
>>I had called the electric company in the early morning three or
>>four times with "the squeaky wheel gets the grease" hopes. I'd
>>say it worked well. With traffic signals out, downed trees on
>>the roads and on wires, and flooded and washed out roads, the
>>entire restoration process was a slow-motion challenge, and
>>still is.
>>
>>Bet,
>>
>>Andy
>>
>>
>>
>>No real need to rig up any contraption. When the power goes out, I'm on
>>the
>>couch with a pillow behind me and a flashlight balanced between the arm of
>>the couch and the pillow behind my head. Or you could buy a clip-on book
>>light They're usually gooseneck types so you could clip it to a table
>>or
>>to the book itself if it's a hardback book.
>>
>>Jill
>
>If you get some of those new little 80 or 100 lumens flashlights, you
>can balance it on your shoulder as you recline.
>Janet US

Not fair, yoose gals have a built in flashlight support.

I have this, it lights an entire room, gives more than enough light
for reading without having to go through contortions, just place it on
a table.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...ls_o02_s00_i00
I have this too, works great and can even charge a cell phone.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...ls_o02_s00_i01


That first link says "Delivery may be impacted by Hurricane Sandy". Some
help! LOL Okay, potential future help because this isn't going to be the
last natural disaster.

Jill

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> "Dave Smith" wrote in message ...
>
> On 31/10/2012 8:07 PM, Mark Thorson wrote:
>> Dave Smith wrote:
>>>
>>> I was not an avid reader when I was a kid, and a flashlight would go
>>> through a set of batteries quickly. Now I am a reader and can't imagine
>>> going to bed without reading. I have an LED flashlight that runs on 4 AA
>>> batteries and will last for weeks.
>>
>> If you do a lot of reading in bed, you might
>> like a Kindle. The newer models have an
>> illuminated display.
>>
>
>
> Pay for a Kindle? Then pay to download books that I won't own? Nuts to
> that. We have a decent library in town.
>
>
>
> I feel the same way, Dave. Besides, I like the feel of a book in my
> hands. I like to save my place with an actual bookmark, not "bookmark this
> page" on a screen.
>
> Jill

when I doze off and roll over on a book, no problem. With a Kindle, etc.?

"Pico Rico" wrote in message ...


"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> "Dave Smith" wrote in message ...
>
> On 31/10/2012 8:07 PM, Mark Thorson wrote:
>> Dave Smith wrote:
>>>
>>> I was not an avid reader when I was a kid, and a flashlight would go
>>> through a set of batteries quickly. Now I am a reader and can't imagine
>>> going to bed without reading. I have an LED flashlight that runs on 4 AA
>>> batteries and will last for weeks.
>>
>> If you do a lot of reading in bed, you might
>> like a Kindle. The newer models have an
>> illuminated display.
>>
>
>
> Pay for a Kindle? Then pay to download books that I won't own? Nuts to
> that. We have a decent library in town.
>
>
>
> I feel the same way, Dave. Besides, I like the feel of a book in my
> hands. I like to save my place with an actual bookmark, not "bookmark this
> page" on a screen.
>
> Jill

when I doze off and roll over on a book, no problem. With a Kindle, etc.?


You may roll over and activate an app! LOL

Jill

"jmcquown" > wrote:
> "Brooklyn1" wrote in message ...
>
> On Wed, 31 Oct 2012 14:19:55 -0600, Janet Bostwick
> > wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 31 Oct 2012 11:37:42 -0400, "jmcquown" >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> "Andy" wrote in message ...
>>>
>>> "jmcquown" > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yeah, 24 hour minor inconvenience. I couldn't even read a
>>>> book!
>>>>
>>>> Andy
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You could have used a flashlight I'm glad you got your
>>>> power back in such a timely manner.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Jill,
>>>
>>> I actually gave some thought to rigging a flashlight stand
>>> contraption but decided I didn't have the mechanical
>>>
>>>
>>> wizardry or materials. A table miniature gooseneck microphone
>>> stand would have been ideal but it wouldn't get used very often.
>>>
>>> I thought about an audio book but the power could come on before
>>> chapter ends.
>>>
>>> I had called the electric company in the early morning three or
>>> four times with "the squeaky wheel gets the grease" hopes. I'd
>>> say it worked well. With traffic signals out, downed trees on
>>> the roads and on wires, and flooded and washed out roads, the
>>> entire restoration process was a slow-motion challenge, and
>>> still is.
>>>
>>> Bet,
>>>
>>> Andy
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> No real need to rig up any contraption. When the power goes out, I'm on >>the
>>> couch with a pillow behind me and a flashlight balanced between the arm of
>>> the couch and the pillow behind my head. Or you could buy a clip-on book
>>> light They're usually gooseneck types so you could clip it to a table >>or
>>> to the book itself if it's a hardback book.
>>>
>>> Jill
>>
>> If you get some of those new little 80 or 100 lumens flashlights, you
>> can balance it on your shoulder as you recline.
>> Janet US
>
> Not fair, yoose gals have a built in flashlight support.
>
> I have this, it lights an entire room, gives more than enough light
> for reading without having to go through contortions, just place it on
> a table.
> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...ls_o02_s00_i00
> I have this too, works great and can even charge a cell phone.
> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...ls_o02_s00_i01
>
>
> That first link says "Delivery may be impacted by Hurricane Sandy". Some
> help! LOL Okay, potential future help because this isn't going to be the
> last natural disaster.
>
> Jill

360 lanterns glare you in the eyes.

If anybody does not have one of these, please purchase soon.

http://www.kmart.com:80/northwest-te...lockType=G2 2

Greg



http://www.kmart.com:80/northwest-te...lockType=G2 2

"Dave Smith" > wrote in message
...
> On 31/10/2012 3:51 PM, sf wrote:
>
>> Blackouts are rare here, but I found out that the converter box on one
>> TV powered itself down because it hadn't been used for x weeks...
>> which was a PITA because I didn't know the TV wasn't working because
>> it needed the cable company to send a signal and wake it up.
>
> For years I was impressed with the fact that we rarely lost electrical
> power. Then we went through a period of frequent short outages. A coupe
> years ago we had a serious wind storm than knocked out our power for about
> 16 hours in late April when the ground is wet and my sump pump is very
> active. We had some flooding in my cellar, but it is a cellar, so not a
> major problem. Lately, the power supply has been much more reliable. We
> did not lose power this week. Thankfully, the storm had lost most of its
> bite by the time it hit us, but still, no power loss.

We tend to lose it here about twice a year for maybe 2 hours at a time.
Once in a while we will get little piddly ones that are just annoying.
Power goes out for a few minutes and then comes back on. So then we have to
go around resetting the clocks and it knocks out the programming on the
cable so we have to wait till it resets.

"Dave Smith" > wrote in message
...
> On 31/10/2012 4:51 PM, Gary wrote:
>
>> You needn't rig some flashlight stand, Andy. heheh
>> Just do what I did when I was a kid and my parents told me "lights out"
>> I read under the covers using a flashlight.
>>
>
> I was not an avid reader when I was a kid, and a flashlight would go
> through a set of batteries quickly. Now I am a reader and can't imagine
> going to bed without reading. I have an LED flashlight that runs on 4 AA
> batteries and will last for weeks.

When Angela was young I used to chastise her for wanting to play with a
flashlight. I guess I was thinking of how things were when I was a kid.
Batteries were rather expensive and they didn't last very long. But now we
buy them for cheap at Costco and they do seem to last a lot longer than they
used to. We actually do use a lot of battery operated lamps here in the
house on a regular basis and I only have to change the batteries maybe 3-4
times a year.

"Mark Thorson" > wrote in message
...
> Dave Smith wrote:
>>
>> I was not an avid reader when I was a kid, and a flashlight would go
>> through a set of batteries quickly. Now I am a reader and can't imagine
>> going to bed without reading. I have an LED flashlight that runs on 4 AA
>> batteries and will last for weeks.
>
> If you do a lot of reading in bed, you might
> like a Kindle. The newer models have an
> illuminated display.

I find reading in bed to be horribly uncomfortable. Yes, I used to do it as
a kid because my parents would make me stay in my bed. And I wasn't allowed
to have the light on. So I would use a flashlight. But as an adult, I have
very rarely read in bed. Just doesn't appeal to me.

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> "Dave Smith" wrote in message ...
>
> On 31/10/2012 8:07 PM, Mark Thorson wrote:
>> Dave Smith wrote:
>>>
>>> I was not an avid reader when I was a kid, and a flashlight would go
>>> through a set of batteries quickly. Now I am a reader and can't imagine
>>> going to bed without reading. I have an LED flashlight that runs on 4 AA
>>> batteries and will last for weeks.
>>
>> If you do a lot of reading in bed, you might
>> like a Kindle. The newer models have an
>> illuminated display.
>>
>
>
> Pay for a Kindle? Then pay to download books that I won't own? Nuts to
> that. We have a decent library in town.
>
>
>
> I feel the same way, Dave. Besides, I like the feel of a book in my
> hands. I like to save my place with an actual bookmark, not "bookmark this
> page" on a screen.

My parents didn't seem to think they would like Kindles. But then they got
them and they use them all the time. I have a feeling if I did get one, I
might like it at least for some things. I didn't think Angela needed an
IPad either. But I did let her get one with her own money. And I love the
thing! Not that I use it all the time, because I don't. But when my
computer was in the shop awhile back, she loaned it to me and it was great!

On Wed, 31 Oct 2012 14:19:55 -0600, Janet Bostwick
> wrote:



>>
>>No real need to rig up any contraption. When the power goes out, I'm on the
>>couch with a pillow behind me and a flashlight balanced between the arm of
>>the couch and the pillow behind my head. Or you could buy a clip-on book
>>light They're usually gooseneck types so you could clip it to a table or
>>to the book itself if it's a hardback book.
>>
>>Jill
>
>If you get some of those new little 80 or 100 lumens flashlights, you
>can balance it on your shoulder as you recline. These flashlight are
>brighter than the usual ones and you can find them everywhere now. .
>.2 or 3 for $15-19, Dandy little things, I have one stashed
>everywhere, including my purse.
>Janet US

Or light up the room
http://www.amazon.com/Rayovac-SE3DLN...ef=pd_sim_sg_1

LED lights are available in many forms for the way you want light, bit
it a room, or a book.

On Wed, 31 Oct 2012 20:08:20 -0400, "jmcquown" >
wrote:



>
>
>Pay for a Kindle? Then pay to download books that I won't own? Nuts to
>that. We have a decent library in town.
>
>
>
>I feel the same way, Dave. Besides, I like the feel of a book in my hands.
>I like to save my place with an actual bookmark, not "bookmark this page" on
>a screen.
>
>Jill

To each his own. I thought it would end up a waste of money, but . . .
My wife loves her Nook. I should say Nooks. She liked it so much
when the new model came out she bought another. It does more than
just books too, but she hardly ever touches a real book now.

"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 31 Oct 2012 14:19:55 -0600, Janet Bostwick
> > wrote:
>
>
>
>>>
>>>No real need to rig up any contraption. When the power goes out, I'm on
>>>the
>>>couch with a pillow behind me and a flashlight balanced between the arm
>>>of
>>>the couch and the pillow behind my head. Or you could buy a clip-on book
>>>light They're usually gooseneck types so you could clip it to a table
>>>or
>>>to the book itself if it's a hardback book.
>>>
>>>Jill
>>
>>If you get some of those new little 80 or 100 lumens flashlights, you
>>can balance it on your shoulder as you recline. These flashlight are
>>brighter than the usual ones and you can find them everywhere now. .
>>.2 or 3 for $15-19, Dandy little things, I have one stashed
>>everywhere, including my purse.
>>Janet US
>
> Or light up the room
> http://www.amazon.com/Rayovac-SE3DLN...ef=pd_sim_sg_1
>
> LED lights are available in many forms for the way you want light, bit
> it a room, or a book.

Yes and they are getting better. When they first came out they would bug
the heck out of my eyes. They no longer seem to do that.

There are clip on book lights but I find that they just suck the life out of
batteries.

"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 31 Oct 2012 20:08:20 -0400, "jmcquown" >
> wrote:
>
>
>
>>
>>
>>Pay for a Kindle? Then pay to download books that I won't own? Nuts to
>>that. We have a decent library in town.
>>
>>
>>
>>I feel the same way, Dave. Besides, I like the feel of a book in my
>>hands.
>>I like to save my place with an actual bookmark, not "bookmark this page"
>>on
>>a screen.
>>
>>Jill
>
> To each his own. I thought it would end up a waste of money, but . . .
> My wife loves her Nook. I should say Nooks. She liked it so much
> when the new model came out she bought another. It does more than
> just books too, but she hardly ever touches a real book now.

I like the aspect that you can get so much for free. Not that I have one.
I don't. And I likely wouldn't get one unless given one as a gift.

On Wed, 31 Oct 2012 19:33:24 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:



>
>We tend to lose it here about twice a year for maybe 2 hours at a time.
>Once in a while we will get little piddly ones that are just annoying.
>Power goes out for a few minutes and then comes back on. So then we have to
>go around resetting the clocks and it knocks out the programming on the
>cable so we have to wait till it resets.
>

I sometimes get little blips for seconds. Just as the satellite box
would reboot, it would happen again. I got a UPS and it acts as a
surge protector and backup. I heard it click on and off a few times
during the storm, no interruptions though.

"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 31 Oct 2012 19:33:24 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>
>
>>
>>We tend to lose it here about twice a year for maybe 2 hours at a time.
>>Once in a while we will get little piddly ones that are just annoying.
>>Power goes out for a few minutes and then comes back on. So then we have
>>to
>>go around resetting the clocks and it knocks out the programming on the
>>cable so we have to wait till it resets.
>>
>
> I sometimes get little blips for seconds. Just as the satellite box
> would reboot, it would happen again. I got a UPS and it acts as a
> surge protector and backup. I heard it click on and off a few times
> during the storm, no interruptions though.

I flipped out the other day because my little cat walked under my computer
desk as she frequently does. But as she did so, everything went dead. And
I was right in the middle of something. I thought she had somehow unplugged
something, but no. She had stepped on the on/off switch on the surge
protector.

"Andy" > wrote in message ...
> Mark Thorson > wrote:
>
>> If you do a lot of reading in bed, you might
>> like a Kindle. The newer models have an
>> illuminated display.
>
>
>
> What I know is it's everything except a cell phone. If you
> want to read on the train to work, etc., you have to carry two
> devices.
>
> My iPhone has free Kindle, Google, Books, iBooks readers, each
> coming with a set of free ebooks.
>
> I don't find the iPhone a satisfactory ebook platform because
> of the small screen and too much "page turning," and
> rudimentary text, hyphenation and justification settings.
>
> Printed books that are professionally typeset can be a joy to
> read. That and I love the smell fresh ink. At the bookstore,
> the first thing I do is open it and sniff. It smells so
> beautiful... toooo me.
>
> Andy

I really hate going to most book stores. Perhaps because as a child, my
parents seemed to spend hours in them. Also the library. They always were
super big readers.

I don't mind some smaller, used book stores although the smell of some of
the old books can really get to me. I like vintage cookbooks and some other
things so those places are interesting. But the big book stores like Barnes
and Noble are places I dislike. If I go in there looking for a certain
thing, I will look and look and not be able to find what I am looking for.
And then I will have to wait at the help desk. Invariably there will be
nobody there. And then they will finally come. And most of the time they
will wind up telling me they do not carry what I am looking for. Or they do
carry it and there is supposed to be one in stock but they can't find it!
So all in all a big waste of my time.

I've had much better luck going to places like Amazon and ordering stuff
online.

On Wed, 31 Oct 2012 20:08:20 -0400, "jmcquown" >
wrote:

>"Dave Smith" wrote in message ...
>
>On 31/10/2012 8:07 PM, Mark Thorson wrote:
>> Dave Smith wrote:
>>>
>>> I was not an avid reader when I was a kid, and a flashlight would go
>>> through a set of batteries quickly. Now I am a reader and can't imagine
>>> going to bed without reading. I have an LED flashlight that runs on 4 AA
>>> batteries and will last for weeks.
>>
>> If you do a lot of reading in bed, you might
>> like a Kindle. The newer models have an
>> illuminated display.
>>
>
>
>Pay for a Kindle? Then pay to download books that I won't own? Nuts to
>that. We have a decent library in town.
>
>
>
>I feel the same way, Dave. Besides, I like the feel of a book in my hands.
>I like to save my place with an actual bookmark, not "bookmark this page" on
>a screen.
>
>Jill

I didn't think I would like a Kindle until my son gave me one for
Christmas a couple of years ago. Now I love it. And you don't have
to "bookmark this page" when you put it down. It goes off
automatically and when turn it back on it is right there. Many books
that are out of print are available for Kindle for a couple of
dollars. And the ability to keep lots of book readily available is
great.

Kindle is easy to read in almost any light. I frequently read it in
the car when traveling. I can take several books to read on a
vacation. And holding one of Ken Follett's books for a while is not
fun.

Now many public libraries have e-books available . I need to talk to
the librarian about getting my account set up for it when I take the
next load of books down there. I have run out of room for more books
and bookcases.





--
Susan N.

"Moral indignation is in most cases two percent moral,
48 percent indignation, and 50 percent envy."
Vittorio De Sica, Italian movie director (1901-1974)

"Dave Smith" wrote in message ...

On 31/10/2012 8:07 PM, Mark Thorson wrote:
> Dave Smith wrote:
>>
>> I was not an avid reader when I was a kid, and a flashlight would go
>> through a set of batteries quickly. Now I am a reader and can't imagine
>> going to bed without reading. I have an LED flashlight that runs on 4 AA
>> batteries and will last for weeks.
>
> If you do a lot of reading in bed, you might
> like a Kindle. The newer models have an
> illuminated display.
>


Pay for a Kindle? Then pay to download books that I won't own? Nuts to
that. We have a decent library in town.

Amen to that!! Being a pensioner, I don't spend money on things like
that, but more to the point for me is that I work one day a week in our
village volunteer library. I can't see any sense in paying for something
that can be obtained free and at the same time supporting a small library
that would close if it didn't have enough patronage.....Sharon in SW Ontario
Canada

"Andy" > wrote in message ...
> "Julie Bove" > wrote:
>
>> I've had much better luck going to places like Amazon and
>> ordering stuff online.
>
>
>
> Julie,
>
> Do you remember when Amazon.com was a small upstart and all
> they sold were books?

Yes. And then I remember them selling toys. And then not long after that
they had everything!
>
> They instantly struck fear in the brick and mortar book
> stores.
>
> Look at them now!
>
> And with Kindle handheld readers? Definitely no sleeping
> giant!!!

Yep!

"The Cook" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 31 Oct 2012 20:08:20 -0400, "jmcquown" >
> wrote:
>
>>"Dave Smith" wrote in message ...
>>
>>On 31/10/2012 8:07 PM, Mark Thorson wrote:
>>> Dave Smith wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I was not an avid reader when I was a kid, and a flashlight would go
>>>> through a set of batteries quickly. Now I am a reader and can't imagine
>>>> going to bed without reading. I have an LED flashlight that runs on 4
>>>> AA
>>>> batteries and will last for weeks.
>>>
>>> If you do a lot of reading in bed, you might
>>> like a Kindle. The newer models have an
>>> illuminated display.
>>>
>>
>>
>>Pay for a Kindle? Then pay to download books that I won't own? Nuts to
>>that. We have a decent library in town.
>>
>>
>>
>>I feel the same way, Dave. Besides, I like the feel of a book in my
>>hands.
>>I like to save my place with an actual bookmark, not "bookmark this page"
>>on
>>a screen.
>>
>>Jill
>
> I didn't think I would like a Kindle until my son gave me one for
> Christmas a couple of years ago. Now I love it. And you don't have
> to "bookmark this page" when you put it down. It goes off
> automatically and when turn it back on it is right there. Many books
> that are out of print are available for Kindle for a couple of
> dollars. And the ability to keep lots of book readily available is
> great.
>
> Kindle is easy to read in almost any light. I frequently read it in
> the car when traveling. I can take several books to read on a
> vacation. And holding one of Ken Follett's books for a while is not
> fun.
>
> Now many public libraries have e-books available . I need to talk to
> the librarian about getting my account set up for it when I take the
> next load of books down there. I have run out of room for more books
> and bookcases.

I don't have a Kindle but so much information is available online now, I got
rid of most of my books.