"Richard K." > wrote in message
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> "George" > wrote in message
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>> Just so I understand all unions are go [sic] no matter how corrupt they
>> are?
>
>
> People are corrupt, not institutions... Be it government, Catholic Church,
> unions, Enron, BP, guns etc... Best institutions are those that have
> oversight and transparency. When any institution has people that do dumb
> or corrupt things, it should be in the news and be made fun of by
> comedians. Corrupt people should be ostracized, jailed and purged. (Until
> they repent and find Jesus.)
I was warned as a child *never* to trust people "who have found Jesus". Now,
as a senior, I realise that that was some of the best advice I ever had!
Graham

On 04/11/2012 5:50 AM, notbob wrote:

> Well who the Hell doesn't!!?? I went, first, to junior college, than
> later to 4 yr college, all while I was working full time --nay,
> overtime! -- and not during some kick back 3 month vacation. It's
> called night school. I'm talking 50-70 hr work weeks ...plus school.
> Plus homework. (harrumph!)
>
> I'm not saying teachers shouldn't get more pay, but let's knock off
> this "but look how hard we work" horsecrap, tout de suite!


My wife was a teacher and she worked hard. I was on a compressed work
week, working 7 am to 4:30. Sometimes we car pooled and she would drop
me off at my office before 7 and proceed to school, and then I would
have to wait for her. I only worked 4 days a week but she did 5. Then
she had work to do at home, at least two hours every night and then at
least a another half day on weekends. She had work to keep her busy
through at least half of the Christmas and spring breaks. She had a
week or two of work after the end of the school year and again before
the next term started up. They may only have 6 hours a day in the class
room but between lesson planning, preparation, marking and record
keeping, there is usually at least that much more to do after hours.

On 04/11/2012 11:46 AM, graham wrote:

>> People are corrupt, not institutions... Be it government, Catholic Church,
>> unions, Enron, BP, guns etc... Best institutions are those that have
>> oversight and transparency. When any institution has people that do dumb
>> or corrupt things, it should be in the news and be made fun of by
>> comedians. Corrupt people should be ostracized, jailed and purged. (Until
>> they repent and find Jesus.)
> I was warned as a child *never* to trust people "who have found Jesus". Now,
> as a senior, I realise that that was some of the best advice I ever had!
> Graham
>
>

During my years working in enforcement I discovered a universal truth.
When someone says "I swear to God...", the next thing that comes out of
their mind is likely to be a lie.

"graham" > wrote in message
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> "Richard K." > wrote in message
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>> "George" > wrote in message
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>>> Just so I understand all unions are go [sic] no matter how corrupt they
>>> are?
>>
>>
>> People are corrupt, not institutions... Be it government, Catholic
>> Church, unions, Enron, BP, guns etc... Best institutions are those that
>> have oversight and transparency. When any institution has people that do
>> dumb or corrupt things, it should be in the news and be made fun of by
>> comedians. Corrupt people should be ostracized, jailed and purged. (Until
>> they repent and find Jesus.)
> I was warned as a child *never* to trust people "who have found Jesus".
> Now, as a senior, I realise that that was some of the best advice I ever
> had!
> Graham

As a child, Jesus was not very good at the game Hide 'n Seek. Other kids
would easily find Him without searching very hard.

The only saying I find palatable ever attributed to RR was when he said:
"trust... but verify"

George wrote:

> Teachers jobs like most jobs are based on an annual salary. So lets say
> they hire you at a salary of say $60k/year for any job. That means just
> considering salary you are paid $1,1154/week. If you work in the
> private sector you are typically required to work for 50 of those weeks
> and you are free to do what you want for the other two weeks while
> receiving your salary. If you are a teacher you are required to work for
> ~ 37 of those weeks and are free to do what you want with pay for 15 weeks.

Seriously, are you serious? If so, you might be a Republican.