On 11/19/2012 12:28 PM, Cheri wrote:
> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 11/19/2012 9:46 AM, Cheri wrote:
>>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>
>>>> I use my bank card to pay for groceries. That card is scanned into
>>>> the POS system for funds verification and that's how they get the
>>>> information. At some stores they ask for my phone number and I've seen
>>>> my information pop up on the screen. Still never got a telemarketing
>>>> call based on what I bought.
>>>>
>>>> Jill
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Well sure, then they would have your information. If you've ever had a
>>> telemarketing call, how do you know that the information was not
>>> garnered there? For instance if you bought Slim-Fast and then you get a
>>> call about Acai Berries for weight loss or something like that? Why do
>>> you think supermarkets and other stores have the cards in the first
>>> place if not to track sales and the demographic of people buying, such
>>> as areas where you live by zip code etc.
>>>
>>> Cheri
>>
>> I *know* why they have the cards. Publix doesn't offer one, for which
>> I'm grateful. If something is on sale, it's on sale, no card required.
>>
>> Some 25 years ago I was on my way to a party and stopped at a Kroger
>> (it wasn't my regular grocery store) to pick up a meat and cheese
>> platter. The gal at the checkout asked if I had one of their savings
>> cards. Nope. So she asked the young man behind me if she could use
>> his card to get me a discount. IIRC he was on his way to meet his
>> date and was only buying a single long stemmed rose and a card or some
>> such thing. He said sure. She swiped his card to get me the
>> discount. How does that help their demographic purchasing info? From
>> what they garnered from that transaction, this guy likes meat & cheese
>> platters and single long stemmed roses. LOL
>>
>> I'm not saying it never happens. I'm just saying in all these years
>> I've never had a telemarketer call me and say we see you bought this,
>> maybe you'd like this, too? <shrugs>
>>
>> Jill
>
>
> I'm absolutely sure they wouldn't say..."hey so and so sold us a list of
> their shoppers and what they bought so we decided to give you a call."
> Anyway, using the cards are a choice, so a person has to take the good
> with the bad.
>
> Cheri

All I said was I've never gotten a telemarketing call based on anything
I bought in a grocery store. Really and truly. Never had it happen.

Jill

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...

> I've never been a low carber. Maybe that's why you get the phone calls
> and I don't? I really cannot comprehend getting telemarketing calls based
> on my purchases.
>
> Jill



OK. You're one of those that get telemarketer calls based on nothing then.

Cheri

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...

> All I said was I've never gotten a telemarketing call based on anything I
> bought in a grocery store. Really and truly. Never had it happen.
>
> Jill


And all I said was, there is no way you could know that, really and truly.
Last word can be yours.

Cheri

jmcquown wrote:

> >> I don't have and have never had a store card. They know what I buy.
> >> Their point of sale system keeps track of all that stuff. I've never
> >> gotten a telemarketing call based on what I bought at a grocery store.
> >
> > Scary, isn't it?
>
> Are you generally this paranoid?

Is it possible your reading comprehension is getting worse?

On 11/19/2012 4:43 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 09:28:33 -0800, Cheri wrote:
>
>> I'm absolutely sure they wouldn't say..."hey so and so sold us a list of
>> their shoppers and what they bought so we decided to give you a call."
>> Anyway, using the cards are a choice, so a person has to take the good with
>> the bad.
>
> I have one loyalty card, and that's to a liquor store! But that card
> is not used for instant discounts.
>
> Walgreens is now off my list of places to shop. If I do go to stores
> that require a card for a discount, then I will not purchase those
> items unless they offer to give me the discount any way. Last time I
> was at Randalls (safeway) I walked out empty handed. And now that
> Walgreens started that card shit, I only walked out with one of three
> items I planned on purchasing. Anything I can get at Walgreens I can
> get at HEB or Walmart cheaper - so no reason to even stop at Walgreens
> any more.
>
> -sw
>

I agree. There's a Rite Aid across the street from Walgreens and a
Dollar General half a block down the street on the way home. They all
carry the types of things I used to buy at Walgreens. They lost a
regular customer with the rewards card crap.

Jill

On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 16:53:21 -0500, jmcquown >
wrote:

> I agree. There's a Rite Aid across the street from Walgreens and a
> Dollar General half a block down the street on the way home. They all
> carry the types of things I used to buy at Walgreens. They lost a
> regular customer with the rewards card crap.

Walgreens around here doesn't do that, it's CVS. Personally, I'm
tired of all the "rewards" cards. I don't like carrying them and I
don't like entering or giving someone my telephone number for that.

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

On 11/19/2012 4:58 PM, sf wrote:
> On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 16:53:21 -0500, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
>> I agree. There's a Rite Aid across the street from Walgreens and a
>> Dollar General half a block down the street on the way home. They all
>> carry the types of things I used to buy at Walgreens. They lost a
>> regular customer with the rewards card crap.
>
> Walgreens around here doesn't do that, it's CVS. Personally, I'm
> tired of all the "rewards" cards. I don't like carrying them and I
> don't like entering or giving someone my telephone number for that.
>
It's a fairly new thing for the Walgreens in this area. I get a weekly
sales flier via email showing what's on sale. Now it specifies the sale
price is *with* their rewards card. I don't even bother looking at it.

Jill

"Sqwertz" > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 16:54:37 -0000, Ophelia wrote:
>
>> "blake murphy" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>>> why don't you just go through the aisles and squeeze all the cans,
>>> putting dents in the generics so people won't buy them.
>>>
>>> just like you did to the bread at trader joes when they stopped
>>> carrying your brand of bread.
>>>
>>> your pal,
>>>
>>> blake
>>
>> ????
>
> I told blake that I would terrorize his arch-nemesis Andy for him
> while he was gone. I couldn't make the same offer for Sheldon (way
> too much work) but I could at least take care of Andy for him. blake
> approves of this, I'm sure of it!

Understood.

> Besides, I think some of us need a refresher once in a while. It
> seems longer than 13 months.

It certainly does

--
--
http://www.shop.helpforheroes.org.uk/

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 11/19/2012 9:46 AM, Cheri wrote:
>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>>> I use my bank card to pay for groceries. That card is scanned into
>>> the POS system for funds verification and that's how they get the
>>> information. At some stores they ask for my phone number and I've seen
>>> my information pop up on the screen. Still never got a telemarketing
>>> call based on what I bought.
>>>
>>> Jill
>>
>>
>>
>> Well sure, then they would have your information. If you've ever had a
>> telemarketing call, how do you know that the information was not
>> garnered there? For instance if you bought Slim-Fast and then you get a
>> call about Acai Berries for weight loss or something like that? Why do
>> you think supermarkets and other stores have the cards in the first
>> place if not to track sales and the demographic of people buying, such
>> as areas where you live by zip code etc.
>>
>> Cheri
>
> I *know* why they have the cards. Publix doesn't offer one, for which I'm
> grateful. If something is on sale, it's on sale, no card required.
>
> Some 25 years ago I was on my way to a party and stopped at a Kroger (it
> wasn't my regular grocery store) to pick up a meat and cheese platter. The
> gal at the checkout asked if I had one of their savings cards. Nope. So
> she asked the young man behind me if she could use his card to get me a
> discount. IIRC he was on his way to meet his date and was only buying a
> single long stemmed rose and a card or some such thing. He said sure.
> She swiped his card to get me the discount. How does that help their
> demographic purchasing info? From what they garnered from that
> transaction, this guy likes meat & cheese platters and single long stemmed
> roses. LOL
>
> I'm not saying it never happens. I'm just saying in all these years I've
> never had a telemarketer call me and say we see you bought this, maybe
> you'd like this, too? <shrugs>

Many times I've been at some store...say in another state...where I have no
card. They have some sort of generic card or in some cases they even use
their own card to give me the discount.

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 10:11:46 -0500, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
>> I'm not saying it never happens. I'm just saying in all these years
>> I've never had a telemarketer call me and say we see you bought this,
>> maybe you'd like this, too? <shrugs>
>
> When did you *ever* get a telemarketing call for weight loss? When I
> had a land line, I mainly got home repair type calls. Sure, I had one
> once for the ubiquitous vitamin pills everyone here talked about at
> the time... but I was in a silly mood that day and I don't think the
> person on the other end of the line liked his job - so we joked and
> BSed for a few minutes and that was that. I think he took me off the
> call list because I never got one of those calls again.

Years ago the main call I got was for the MCI phone company. Are they even
around any more? Every night at dinner time. Two or three calls. This was
before we had the Do Not Call list. I began screaming and acting totally
crazy. This after I told them repeatedly to stop calling me. They were a
horrible phone company. My boss made the mistake of getting them where I
worked. The power would go out and we'd lose our phones. Or we'd just lose
our phones randomly.

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 11/19/2012 12:31 PM, Cheri wrote:
>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On 11/19/2012 11:06 AM, sf wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 10:11:46 -0500, jmcquown >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I'm not saying it never happens. I'm just saying in all these years
>>>>> I've never had a telemarketer call me and say we see you bought this,
>>>>> maybe you'd like this, too? <shrugs>
>>>>
>>>> When did you *ever* get a telemarketing call for weight loss? When I
>>>> had a land line, I mainly got home repair type calls. Sure, I had one
>>>> once for the ubiquitous vitamin pills everyone here talked about at
>>>> the time... but I was in a silly mood that day and I don't think the
>>>> person on the other end of the line liked his job - so we joked and
>>>> BSed for a few minutes and that was that. I think he took me off the
>>>> call list because I never got one of those calls again.
>>>>
>>> See, now who isn't quoting correctly? (teasing you) *I* never got a
>>> telemarketing call for weight loss. Cheri apparently did or does.
>>> I've never bought Slim Fast.
>>>
>>> Jill
>>
>>
>> No, Cheri does not use Slim Fast, but have bought Atkins Shakes once in
>> awhile as meal replacements. I've been a low carber for many years.
>>
>> Cheri
>
>
> I've never been a low carber. Maybe that's why you get the phone calls
> and I don't? I really cannot comprehend getting telemarketing calls based
> on my purchases.

I don't think I have either. Although I have gotten calls from companies I
have ordered from. One was for supplements. I had heard a radio program
and they had a guy touting this stuff on there. I can't remember the exact
product but it was for kids and they said kids loved the taste. Whatever it
was, I thought Angela needed it so I ordered it. She did not love the taste
and neither did I. But they started bugging me about buying more stuff for
her and tried to use the tactic that her health would suffer if I didn't buy
her these things.

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 16:53:21 -0500, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
>> I agree. There's a Rite Aid across the street from Walgreens and a
>> Dollar General half a block down the street on the way home. They all
>> carry the types of things I used to buy at Walgreens. They lost a
>> regular customer with the rewards card crap.
>
> Walgreens around here doesn't do that, it's CVS. Personally, I'm
> tired of all the "rewards" cards. I don't like carrying them and I
> don't like entering or giving someone my telephone number for that.

I'm sure they do it there. It's a nationwide program. Just started a few
months ago. I signed up but never got a card. They will just put in my
phone number though and it works.

On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 09:48:24 -0800, "Cheri" >
wrote:

>"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
>
>> I've never been a low carber. Maybe that's why you get the phone calls
>> and I don't? I really cannot comprehend getting telemarketing calls based
>> on my purchases.
>>
>> Jill
>
>
>
>OK. You're one of those that get telemarketer calls based on nothing then.
>
>Cheri

Agree with Jill. Only calls I've gotten were trying to sell alarm
systems. A couple of years ago it was car warranties. Never had a
call trying to sell me anything food related. Never had a call
remotely connected in any way to a supermarket card.

Kid across the street is selling citrus fruit for a band fundraiser.
Do you think he got my name because I bought oranges at Stop & Shop
last year?

On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 08:50:30 -0500, jmcquown >
wrote:



>>
>> One thing I do notice is my ACME generic brands are squeezing
>> brand name products off the store shelves. There's more ACME
>> frozen vegetables than Libby, Bird's Eye, etc., so I never buy
>> ACME's generic brand products in silent protest.
>>
>> Andy
>>
>
>Not buying the generic products but not telling anyone you're unhappy
>with the selections isn't going to change anything. I'm not sure
>telling them would make a difference, but it can't hurt.
>
>Jill

Not to mention ****ing money away. In most cases, the store brand is
just as good as the more expensive name brand. Evidently, people
agree because they give shelf space to what sells and what makes them
profit.

Sqwertz wrote:
> On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 16:54:37 -0000, Ophelia wrote:
>
>> "blake murphy" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>>> why don't you just go through the aisles and squeeze all the cans,
>>> putting dents in the generics so people won't buy them.
>>>
>>> just like you did to the bread at trader joes when they stopped
>>> carrying your brand of bread.
>>>
>>> your pal,
>>>
>>> blake
>> ????
>
> I told blake that I would terrorize his arch-nemesis Andy for him
> while he was gone. I couldn't make the same offer for Sheldon (way
> too much work) but I could at least take care of Andy for him. blake
> approves of this, I'm sure of it!
>
> Besides, I think some of us need a refresher once in a while. It
> seems longer than 13 months.
>
> -sw

Sigh. I really liked Blake.

"Sqwertz" > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 23:06:03 -0500, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
>> Not to mention ****ing money away. In most cases, the store brand is
>> just as good as the more expensive name brand. Evidently, people
>> agree because they give shelf space to what sells and what makes them
>> profit.
>
> I recently had an off-brand of green beans that were odd. They were
> cut into 1/2" sections and some of the stems were still attached
> (maybe 3 stems in the whole can). I figure these had blemishes so
> they were cut smaller so as not to waste as much (when they discard
> the blemish). The same process must not have caused inefficiencies
> at the destemmer.

I have found stems in every brand of beans that I've bought recently. I
never used to find that. Not even with the cheap beans.

On 19/11/2012 12:16 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> On 11/18/2012 8:10 PM, Cheri wrote:
>> "Andy" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>>> At many stores they're advanced enough that you can just
>>> recite your phone number and the membership info is fetched.
>>> So in that sense, even membership cards are becoming obsolete!
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Andy
>>
>>
>>
>> But not the constant tracking of your shopping habits, where you live
>> etc. which leads to more telemarketing calls.
>>
>> Cheri
>
> I don't have and have never had a store card. They know what I buy.
> Their point of sale system keeps track of all that stuff. I've never
> gotten a telemarketing call based on what I bought at a grocery store.
>
> Jill

I'm the same. I don't like the loss of privacy you endure when you sign
your life away to one or more of thse cards. Rewards card ditto.

--

Krypsis

Sqwertz wrote:

> > Well sure, then they would have your information. If you've ever had a
> > telemarketing call, how do you know that the information was not garnered
> > there?

> I really doubt loyalty cards the source of any telemarketing calls.
> That would bury the whole loyalty cards programs and people would then
> resist them and use fake info.

Of course you're right, but this is an argument you can't win. No way
can simple facts combat deeply entrenched beliefs like these. People
who see plots and schemes everywhere can't be dissuaded from their
persecution trips.

You might as well tell a fundy that it's simply impossible the Earth
is only 5000 years old. No matter how high the mountain of proof, the
fundy clings to his "faith".

Julie Bove wrote:

> Years ago the main call I got was for the MCI phone company. Are they even
> around any more?

No, but you can visit Bernie Ebbers in Leavenworth.

On Wed, 21 Nov 2012 00:37:53 +1100, Krypsis >
wrote:

> On 19/11/2012 12:16 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> > On 11/18/2012 8:10 PM, Cheri wrote:
> >> "Andy" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >>
> >>> At many stores they're advanced enough that you can just
> >>> recite your phone number and the membership info is fetched.
> >>> So in that sense, even membership cards are becoming obsolete!
> >>>
> >>> Best,
> >>>
> >>> Andy
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> But not the constant tracking of your shopping habits, where you live
> >> etc. which leads to more telemarketing calls.
> >>
> >> Cheri
> >
> > I don't have and have never had a store card. They know what I buy.
> > Their point of sale system keeps track of all that stuff. I've never
> > gotten a telemarketing call based on what I bought at a grocery store.
> >
> > Jill
>
> I'm the same. I don't like the loss of privacy you endure when you sign
> your life away to one or more of thse cards. Rewards card ditto.

Nobody complains about credit cards, which do all of the POS tracking
everyone is complaining about. This is the next step, that tracks
cash sales too. Frankly, rewards cards have been around for such a
long time I'm surprised anyone is still complaining about them. They
are what they are. If you don't like the idea, then don't get one...
they aren't going away any time soon. The next step will be a
consolidation into universal cards... just like the credit card
concept which consolidated all those individual store cards - only
it's a rewards card. Or maybe it will be another option on our credit
card: credit, debit, cash sale. All they need to do is figure out how
to make it profitable for a third party company, and then it will be a
reality that no one bats an eyelash at.

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

sf wrote:
> Nobody complains about credit cards, which do all of the POS tracking
> everyone is complaining about. This is the next step, that tracks
> cash sales too. Frankly, rewards cards have been around for such a
> long time I'm surprised anyone is still complaining about them. They
> are what they are. If you don't like the idea, then don't get one...
> they aren't going away any time soon. The next step will be a
> consolidation into universal cards... just like the credit card
> concept which consolidated all those individual store cards - only
> it's a rewards card. Or maybe it will be another option on our credit
> card: credit, debit, cash sale. All they need to do is figure out how
> to make it profitable for a third party company, and then it will be a
> reality that no one bats an eyelash at.

My only complaint is having to carry all of the cards around and remembering
to give the card to the clerk.

I do know people who use their credit cards for most everything but are
fearful of the store cards. They will get them, but they give bogus
information.

George M. Middius wrote:
> Julie Bove wrote:
>
>> Years ago the main call I got was for the MCI phone company. Are
>> they even around any more?
>
> No, but you can visit Bernie Ebbers in Leavenworth.

Um... Who is he? And what Leavenworth?

On Tue, 20 Nov 2012 21:25:17 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

> I do know people who use their credit cards for most everything but are
> fearful of the store cards. They will get them, but they give bogus
> information.

People here do it. Why? I dunno. They already know all they want to
know about you. Dumbells.

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

On Tue, 20 Nov 2012 21:26:09 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

> George M. Middius wrote:
> > Julie Bove wrote:
> >
> >> Years ago the main call I got was for the MCI phone company. Are
> >> they even around any more?
> >
> > No, but you can visit Bernie Ebbers in Leavenworth.
>
> Um... Who is he? And what Leavenworth?
>

When people say "in" Leavenworth, they mean prison 99% of the time.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernard_Ebbers

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 20 Nov 2012 21:26:09 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>> George M. Middius wrote:
>> > Julie Bove wrote:
>> >
>> >> Years ago the main call I got was for the MCI phone company. Are
>> >> they even around any more?
>> >
>> > No, but you can visit Bernie Ebbers in Leavenworth.
>>
>> Um... Who is he? And what Leavenworth?
>>
>
> When people say "in" Leavenworth, they mean prison 99% of the time.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernard_Ebbers

Ohhh... We have a Leavenworth here in WA. Not a prison.