A group of friends on the other side of the country are doing a couple
of Trash Can Turkeys again this year. I have no opinion on this
practice, except that they all seem to enjoy their Thanksgiving. They
claim that it makes a really juicy turkey. I'd never heard of this
before, have you?

http://thetrashcanturkey.com/

Janet US

On Nov 22, 8:47*am, Janet Bostwick > wrote:
> A group of friends on the other side of the country are doing a couple
> of Trash Can Turkeys again this year.

The turkey that my SIL's husband made last year belonged in a trash
can.

> Janet US

--Bryan

On 11/22/2012 9:47 AM, Janet Bostwick wrote:
>
> A group of friends on the other side of the country are doing a couple
> of Trash Can Turkeys again this year. I have no opinion on this
> practice, except that they all seem to enjoy their Thanksgiving. They
> claim that it makes a really juicy turkey. I'd never heard of this
> before, have you?
>
> http://thetrashcanturkey.com/
>
> Janet US
>
I may have heard of it some years back but it seems like a heck of a lot
of work to cook a turkey.

Jill

On Nov 22, 9:08*am, jmcquown > wrote:
> On 11/22/2012 9:47 AM, Janet Bostwick wrote:
>
> > A group of friends on the other side of the country are doing a couple
> > of Trash Can Turkeys again this year. *I have no opinion on this
> > practice, except that they all seem to enjoy their Thanksgiving. *They
> > claim that it makes a really juicy turkey. *I'd never heard of this
> > before, have you?
>
> >http://thetrashcanturkey.com/
>
> > Janet US
>
> I may have heard of it some years back but it seems like a heck of a lot
> of work to cook a turkey.
>
And only a complete slob would suggest using briquets that have been
pre-soaked in solvent. People who do this are the same goofballs who
cook chickens on an open can of Coca Cola.

The website is by and for idiots. Here are some quotes:

"YOU CAN'T COOK VERY GOOD!" I guess the word, "well," is too
highfalutin for them.
"The best part It only takes ONE HOUR to cook a 12 lb turkey!!" Great
punctuation, guys, and anyone who believes that statement deserves
food poisoning.
"1 NEW metal trash can. Can MUST BE NEW!" They felt that they needed
to caution folks, because they are themselves on the edge of being too
stupid for that to be obvious.

> Jill

--Bryan

On Thu, 22 Nov 2012 07:47:01 -0700, Janet Bostwick
> wrote:

>
>A group of friends on the other side of the country are doing a couple
>of Trash Can Turkeys again this year. I have no opinion on this
>practice, except that they all seem to enjoy their Thanksgiving. They
>claim that it makes a really juicy turkey. I'd never heard of this
>before, have you?
>
>http://thetrashcanturkey.com/

Not 'trash can' - but my neighbor does them in a pit when he's hanging
out a race weekend. dig a hole- throw in some coals- add a foil
wrapped turkey- add more coals.

I would advise anyone thinking about a trash can to read up on zinc
poisoning. It isn't fun. The can *might not* get hot enough to
release the zinc from the galvanizing-- but if *I* was to try it I'd
be using a steel, unpainted-- or well burned off cylinder. [an old
water tank might work]

I'm not likely to try it though- I haven't cooked a dry turkey in
decades, and the taste from a 325 oven until my thermometer says it's
done is just the way I like it.

We have a second turkey this year from my son's job. I might hack
that one up and smoke it next week. [I smoked one whole once and
wasn't happy with it. I think smoking the parts separate will work
better-- and I can give the breast and extremities different
treatments]

Jim

On 11/22/2012 10:27 AM, Bryan wrote:
> On Nov 22, 9:08 am, jmcquown > wrote:
>> On 11/22/2012 9:47 AM, Janet Bostwick wrote:
>>
>>> A group of friends on the other side of the country are doing a couple
>>> of Trash Can Turkeys again this year. I have no opinion on this
>>> practice, except that they all seem to enjoy their Thanksgiving. They
>>> claim that it makes a really juicy turkey. I'd never heard of this
>>> before, have you?
>>
>>> http://thetrashcanturkey.com/
>>
>>> Janet US
>>
>> I may have heard of it some years back but it seems like a heck of a lot
>> of work to cook a turkey.
>>
> And only a complete slob would suggest using briquets that have been
> pre-soaked in solvent. People who do this are the same goofballs who
> cook chickens on an open can of Coca Cola.
>
> The website is by and for idiots. Here are some quotes:
>
> "YOU CAN'T COOK VERY GOOD!" I guess the word, "well," is too
> highfalutin for them.
> "The best part It only takes ONE HOUR to cook a 12 lb turkey!!" Great
> punctuation, guys, and anyone who believes that statement deserves
> food poisoning.
> "1 NEW metal trash can. Can MUST BE NEW!" They felt that they needed
> to caution folks, because they are themselves on the edge of being too
> stupid for that to be obvious.
>
>> Jill
>
> --Bryan
>
I almost mentioned the "Matchlight" briquets But hey, even if they
don't use those they're bound to douse those briquets with a liberal
amount of ligher fluid.

Jill

On Thu, 22 Nov 2012 07:27:39 -0800 (PST), Bryan
> wrote:

>On Nov 22, 9:08*am, jmcquown > wrote:
>> On 11/22/2012 9:47 AM, Janet Bostwick wrote:
>>
>> > A group of friends on the other side of the country are doing a couple
>> > of Trash Can Turkeys again this year. *I have no opinion on this
>> > practice, except that they all seem to enjoy their Thanksgiving. *They
>> > claim that it makes a really juicy turkey. *I'd never heard of this
>> > before, have you?
>>
>> >http://thetrashcanturkey.com/
>>
>> > Janet US
>>
>> I may have heard of it some years back but it seems like a heck of a lot
>> of work to cook a turkey.
>>
>And only a complete slob would suggest using briquets that have been
>pre-soaked in solvent. People who do this are the same goofballs who
>cook chickens on an open can of Coca Cola.
>
>The website is by and for idiots. Here are some quotes:
>
>"YOU CAN'T COOK VERY GOOD!" I guess the word, "well," is too
>highfalutin for them.
>"The best part It only takes ONE HOUR to cook a 12 lb turkey!!" Great
>punctuation, guys, and anyone who believes that statement deserves
>food poisoning.
>"1 NEW metal trash can. Can MUST BE NEW!" They felt that they needed
>to caution folks, because they are themselves on the edge of being too
>stupid for that to be obvious.
>
>> Jill
>
>--Bryan

Bryan, I apologize for selecting a link that offended you. Try this
one instead.
http://www.food.com/recipe/Trash-Can-Turkey-69818

Janet US

On 11/22/2012 10:29 AM, Jim Elbrecht wrote:

> I would advise anyone thinking about a trash can to read up on zinc
> poisoning. It isn't fun. The can *might not* get hot enough to
> release the zinc from the galvanizing-- but if *I* was to try it I'd
> be using a steel, unpainted-- or well burned off cylinder.

Hey, they'll probably never have another cold! harrr

nancy

Bryan wrote:
>
> Janet Bostwick wrote:
> > A group of friends on the other side of the country are doing a couple
> > of Trash Can Turkeys again this year.
>
> The turkey that my SIL's husband made last year belonged in a trash
> can.

LOL!

Bryan wrote:
>
> And only a complete slob would suggest using briquets that have been
> pre-soaked in solvent. People who do this are the same goofballs who
> cook chickens on an open can of Coca Cola.

eh-oh ;o

Janet Bostwick > wrote:


-snip-
>
>Bryan, I apologize for selecting a link that offended you. Try this
>one instead.
>http://www.food.com/recipe/Trash-Can-Turkey-69818

Now that he's all calmed down. . . .
Hey Bryan check this one out;
http://www.inquiry.net/outdoor/skill...rash_can-2.htm

"20 Gallon trash can (some people say not to use galvanized - but
certainly try to avoid plastic) ;" [Yeah- *TRY*<G>]

"15-20 pound Turkey"
"Let cook for 1:15 - 1:30 (either work, I usually go for the extra 15
minutes)"
"Your done!!!"
"Another Note: We use 30 pounds of Match Light charcoal - we put the
unlit charcoal on the can and light it up (30 pounds of Match Light
makes an impressive fire!). If you don't have a good seal on the can
this can let a little of the starter fumes inside the can. I couldn't
smell or taste it, but one of the guys said that he could smell it."

Glad I'm not in scouts anymore.

Jim

On Thu, 22 Nov 2012 07:47:01 -0700, Janet Bostwick
> wrote:

>
> A group of friends on the other side of the country are doing a couple
> of Trash Can Turkeys again this year. I have no opinion on this
> practice, except that they all seem to enjoy their Thanksgiving. They
> claim that it makes a really juicy turkey. I'd never heard of this
> before, have you?
>
> http://thetrashcanturkey.com/
>
It looks like the manly, more complicated way to do what others of us
would do on the bbq. Too much fussing for me. For a 12 pounder, I'd
fire up my grill and use the lid. Turkey comes out crispy and evenly
cooked all over without standing it up like that on a makeshift
vertical roaster.

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

On Nov 22, 10:03*am, Janet Bostwick > wrote:
> On Thu, 22 Nov 2012 07:27:39 -0800 (PST), Bryan
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > wrote:
> >On Nov 22, 9:08 am, jmcquown > wrote:
> >> On 11/22/2012 9:47 AM, Janet Bostwick wrote:
>
> >> > A group of friends on the other side of the country are doing a couple
> >> > of Trash Can Turkeys again this year. I have no opinion on this
> >> > practice, except that they all seem to enjoy their Thanksgiving. They
> >> > claim that it makes a really juicy turkey. I'd never heard of this
> >> > before, have you?
>
> >> >http://thetrashcanturkey.com/
>
> >> > Janet US
>
> >> I may have heard of it some years back but it seems like a heck of a lot
> >> of work to cook a turkey.
>
> >And only a complete slob would suggest using briquets that have been
> >pre-soaked in solvent. *People who do this are the same goofballs who
> >cook chickens on an open can of Coca Cola.
>
> >The website is by and for idiots. *Here are some quotes:
>
> >"YOU CAN'T COOK VERY GOOD!" *I guess the word, "well," is too
> >highfalutin for them.
> >"The best part It only takes ONE HOUR to cook a 12 lb turkey!!" *Great
> >punctuation, guys, and anyone who believes that statement deserves
> >food poisoning.
> >"1 NEW metal trash can. Can MUST BE NEW!" *They felt that they needed
> >to caution folks, because they are themselves on the edge of being too
> >stupid for that to be obvious.
>
> >> Jill
>
> >--Bryan
>
> Bryan, I apologize for selecting a link that offended you. *Try this
> one instead.http://www.food.com/recipe/Trash-Can-Turkey-69818

It's still a dumb thing to do, if for no other reason that you end up
with no gravy. Goofball ideas do look more attractive though when not
delivered in idiot format.

>
> Janet US

--Bryan

On Thu, 22 Nov 2012 09:22:45 -0800 (PST), Bryan
> wrote:
snip

>
>It's still a dumb thing to do, if for no other reason that you end up
>with no gravy. Goofball ideas do look more attractive though when not
>delivered in idiot format.
>
>>
>> Janet US
>
>--Bryan

I agree about the no gravy part. Unfortunately, there are a bunch of
ways to cook turkey that do not produce good gravy, or none at all.
The worst one I ever tried was using a Nesco covered roaster. The
turkey basically steamed and produced this awful pale liquid with
none of the flavor that comes from juices browning in the pan. Not
quite as bad as when I tried the turkey cooking bag. -- ending up with
stewed turkey.
Janet US

On Thu, 22 Nov 2012 07:47:01 -0700, Janet Bostwick
> wrote:

>
>A group of friends on the other side of the country are doing a couple
>of Trash Can Turkeys again this year. I have no opinion on this
>practice, except that they all seem to enjoy their Thanksgiving. They
>claim that it makes a really juicy turkey. I'd never heard of this
>before, have you?
>
>http://thetrashcanturkey.com/
>
>Janet US

That sure looks like a white trash trailer park.

On Thu, 22 Nov 2012 12:47:55 -0500, Brooklyn1 <Gravesend1> wrote:

>On Thu, 22 Nov 2012 07:47:01 -0700, Janet Bostwick
> wrote:
>
>>
>>A group of friends on the other side of the country are doing a couple
>>of Trash Can Turkeys again this year. I have no opinion on this
>>practice, except that they all seem to enjoy their Thanksgiving. They
>>claim that it makes a really juicy turkey. I'd never heard of this
>>before, have you?
>>
>>http://thetrashcanturkey.com/
>>
>>Janet US
>
>That sure looks like a white trash trailer park.

It sounds better when Robert Irvine calls it
"90 minute turkey."
http://tinyurl.com/aeeyowu
Janet US

On Nov 22, 11:33*am, Janet Bostwick > wrote:
>
> I agree about the no gravy part. *Unfortunately, there are a bunch of
> ways to cook turkey that do not produce good gravy, or none at all.
> The worst one I ever tried was using a Nesco covered roaster. *The
> turkey basically steamed and produced this awful *pale liquid with
> none of the flavor that comes from juices browning in the pan. *Not
> quite as bad as when I tried the turkey cooking bag. -- ending up with
> stewed turkey.

Imagine that stewed in bag thing, but seasoned with cilantro. That is
what was served to us last year, prompting my son to insist that I
make the meal every TG. I am doing one thing differently this hear.
I cut off the legs/thighs, and am roasting them for the better part of
an hour or so before putting the rest in, stuffed with stuffing that's
as hot as I am comfortable working with.

> Janet US

--Bryan

On 11/22/2012 8:29 AM, Bryan wrote:
> On Nov 22, 11:33 am, Janet Bostwick > wrote:
>>
>> I agree about the no gravy part. Unfortunately, there are a bunch of
>> ways to cook turkey that do not produce good gravy, or none at all.
>> The worst one I ever tried was using a Nesco covered roaster. The
>> turkey basically steamed and produced this awful pale liquid with
>> none of the flavor that comes from juices browning in the pan. Not
>> quite as bad as when I tried the turkey cooking bag. -- ending up with
>> stewed turkey.
>
> Imagine that stewed in bag thing, but seasoned with cilantro. That is
> what was served to us last year, prompting my son to insist that I
> make the meal every TG. I am doing one thing differently this hear.
> I cut off the legs/thighs, and am roasting them for the better part of
> an hour or so before putting the rest in, stuffed with stuffing that's
> as hot as I am comfortable working with.
>
>> Janet US
>
> --Bryan
>

I've been cutting the legs/thighs off and laying them next to the bird
on the roasting pan thigh side up. It works spiffy and you can roast the
turkey all at the same time. I don't stuff the bird and can cook a 20lb+
bird in under 2 hours at 350. This year, I'll try using the convection
fan at 325 to see how it goes. It's gonna be one fast turkey.

On Thu, 22 Nov 2012 10:29:17 -0800 (PST), Bryan
> wrote:

>On Nov 22, 11:33*am, Janet Bostwick > wrote:
>>
>> I agree about the no gravy part. *Unfortunately, there are a bunch of
>> ways to cook turkey that do not produce good gravy, or none at all.
>> The worst one I ever tried was using a Nesco covered roaster. *The
>> turkey basically steamed and produced this awful *pale liquid with
>> none of the flavor that comes from juices browning in the pan. *Not
>> quite as bad as when I tried the turkey cooking bag. -- ending up with
>> stewed turkey.
>
>Imagine that stewed in bag thing, but seasoned with cilantro. That is
>what was served to us last year, prompting my son to insist that I
>make the meal every TG. I am doing one thing differently this hear.
>I cut off the legs/thighs, and am roasting them for the better part of
>an hour or so before putting the rest in, stuffed with stuffing that's
>as hot as I am comfortable working with.
>
>> Janet US
>
>--Bryan

I recently saw one of the Food Network people roast the turkey halfway
and then stuff it.
Janet US

On 11/22/2012 7:47 AM, Janet Bostwick wrote:
>
> A group of friends on the other side of the country are doing a couple
> of Trash Can Turkeys again this year. I have no opinion on this
> practice, except that they all seem to enjoy their Thanksgiving. They
> claim that it makes a really juicy turkey. I'd never heard of this
> before, have you?
>
> http://thetrashcanturkey.com/
>
> Janet US
>


The trash can as shown is galvanized with a layer of zinc to prevent
rusting. Zinc is necessary in minute amounts for health but an overage
can interfere with absorption of other needed metals.

There is a condition called the "zinc shakes" or "zinc chills" or metal
fume fever that can be induced by the inhalation of freshly formed zinc
oxide formed during the heating of galvanized materials.

I wouldn't eat it any more than if the trash can were plastic.

gloria p

On Thu, 22 Nov 2012 14:14:54 -0700, gloria p >
wrote:

>On 11/22/2012 7:47 AM, Janet Bostwick wrote:
>>
>> A group of friends on the other side of the country are doing a couple
>> of Trash Can Turkeys again this year. I have no opinion on this
>> practice, except that they all seem to enjoy their Thanksgiving. They
>> claim that it makes a really juicy turkey. I'd never heard of this
>> before, have you?
>>
>> http://thetrashcanturkey.com/
>>
>> Janet US
>>
>
>
>The trash can as shown is galvanized with a layer of zinc to prevent
>rusting. Zinc is necessary in minute amounts for health but an overage
>can interfere with absorption of other needed metals.
>
>There is a condition called the "zinc shakes" or "zinc chills" or metal
>fume fever that can be induced by the inhalation of freshly formed zinc
>oxide formed during the heating of galvanized materials.
>
>I wouldn't eat it any more than if the trash can were plastic.
>
>gloria p

If you read the rest of the recipes that can be searched, they all
mention specifically to use a stainless steel can.
(I just linked the first recipe on the page, I doubt that they are
using that particular one.)
They are all PhD's in various sciences, so I'm sure one of them
figured it out.
Janet US

On 11/22/2012 9:47 AM, Janet Bostwick wrote:
>
> A group of friends on the other side of the country are doing a couple
> of Trash Can Turkeys again this year. I have no opinion on this
> practice, except that they all seem to enjoy their Thanksgiving. They
> claim that it makes a really juicy turkey. I'd never heard of this
> before, have you?
>
> http://thetrashcanturkey.com/
>

Weird, and it looks like a fire hazard. But I'm all for adventurous cooking.

On Thu, 22 Nov 2012 18:09:18 -0700, Janet Bostwick
> wrote:

>On Thu, 22 Nov 2012 14:14:54 -0700, gloria p >
>wrote:
>
>>On 11/22/2012 7:47 AM, Janet Bostwick wrote:
>>>
>>> A group of friends on the other side of the country are doing a couple
>>> of Trash Can Turkeys again this year. I have no opinion on this
>>> practice, except that they all seem to enjoy their Thanksgiving. They
>>> claim that it makes a really juicy turkey. I'd never heard of this
>>> before, have you?
>>>
>>> http://thetrashcanturkey.com/
>>>
>>> Janet US
>>>
>>
>>
>>The trash can as shown is galvanized with a layer of zinc to prevent
>>rusting. Zinc is necessary in minute amounts for health but an overage
>>can interfere with absorption of other needed metals.
>>
>>There is a condition called the "zinc shakes" or "zinc chills" or metal
>>fume fever that can be induced by the inhalation of freshly formed zinc
>>oxide formed during the heating of galvanized materials.
>>
>>I wouldn't eat it any more than if the trash can were plastic.
>>
>>gloria p
>
>If you read the rest of the recipes that can be searched, they all
>mention specifically to use a stainless steel can.
>(I just linked the first recipe on the page, I doubt that they are
>using that particular one.)
>They are all PhD's in various sciences, so I'm sure one of them
>figured it out.
>Janet US

Do you have any idea how much that trash can in stainless steel would
cost... I doubt they even make such a thing, it would need to be
custom made, by NASA. Around here a lot of folks cook in ordinary
30/55 gallon steel drums. At one time not too long ago nearly
everyone here used 55 gallon steel drums as burn barrels to incinerate
their trash, no longer permitted... I have a nice clean one in my
barn.

On Thu, 22 Nov 2012 07:47:01 -0700, Janet Bostwick
> wrote:

>
>A group of friends on the other side of the country are doing a couple
>of Trash Can Turkeys again this year. I have no opinion on this
>practice, except that they all seem to enjoy their Thanksgiving. They
>claim that it makes a really juicy turkey. I'd never heard of this
>before, have you?
>
>http://thetrashcanturkey.com/
>
>Janet US

Huh. But WHAT IF you took a steel sheet and rolled it up into a
cylinder...... and then put a domed top on it with vents...... and
then put a pan with vents on the bottom to hold the coals..... and
then put a grill in the cylinder....... THAT might work pretty good!

Or just go buy a Weber Smokey Mountain cooker.

On 11/22/2012 3:14 PM, gloria p wrote:
> On 11/22/2012 7:47 AM, Janet Bostwick wrote:
>>
>> A group of friends on the other side of the country are doing a couple
>> of Trash Can Turkeys again this year. I have no opinion on this
>> practice, except that they all seem to enjoy their Thanksgiving. They
>> claim that it makes a really juicy turkey. I'd never heard of this
>> before, have you?
>>
>> http://thetrashcanturkey.com/
>>
>> Janet US
>>
>
>
> The trash can as shown is galvanized with a layer of zinc to prevent
> rusting. Zinc is necessary in minute amounts for health but an
> overage can interfere with absorption of other needed metals.
>
> There is a condition called the "zinc shakes" or "zinc chills" or
> metal fume fever that can be induced by the inhalation of freshly
> formed zinc oxide formed during the heating of galvanized materials.
>
> I wouldn't eat it any more than if the trash can were plastic.

I'd also be leery of the wood post. I can just see some moron driving
a green treated 4 x 4 into the ground, wrapping it in aluminum foil,
and perching the bird on it.

Well you don't use a galvanized trash can. Stick with Rubbermaid and you can't fail.

I love these goofy rituals.

I'll stick with the boring oven bag.