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On Fri, 21 Dec 2012 08:09:07 -0800, sf > wrote:

>On Fri, 21 Dec 2012 08:32:33 -0500, "Somebody" >
>wrote:
>
>> Also, retail clerks are told to greet customer to decrease shrinkage.
>> Supposedly, there is less theft if would be thieves know they have been
>> noticed.
>
>In Grocery stores? I've only seen one grocery shop lifter in my life
>and nobody seemed to care. I brought their attention to him, but they
>just let him walk out. It was a homeless guy and it was just one
>large can of food. I guess it was their way of feeding the homeless.

Theft is rampant in some areas. Steaks fit into trousers very well.
People have been know to push and entire cart of food out the door
too. I know of one case recently where a woman had her granddaughter
push a cart out and when caught, she tried to explain it as the child
made a mistake.

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On Fri, 21 Dec 2012 07:27:21 -0600, George Leppla
> wrote:



>I think it goes beyond that. When I was in retail management, I noticed
>that there were "happy" stores... stores where the employees seems
>friendlier than other stores that were pretty close by. I noticed that
>the managers of the "happy" stores tended to be more outgoing and
>friendly and approachable to their employees. Managers who were "by the
>book" types tended to have less friendly stores (and a higher employee
>turnover rate).
>
>A buddy and I decided to try this in our own stores... we tried to "walk
>the floor" every day and said hello to every employee and listen to them
>if they had suggestions, etc. We got to know them a people, not just
>employees. It didn't take long to see a difference in attitude.

I do the same thing. I see every employee every day. I make it a
point to say hello and give them the opportunity to talk if they so
desire. It save a lot of aggravation by listening to what they say
and taking action if needed. Workers that feel connected do a better
job and care about doing a good job for the customer. Sometimes they
just want to say something about a TV show from the night before,
other times it is to tell me about a safety issue they noticed, or
some supplies getting low.

Profit sharing and bonuses are important too. Employees will take the
time to do things right and keep cost down if they know they will be
rewarded for their efforts.

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Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

>I do the same thing. I see every employee every day. I make it a
>point to say hello and give them the opportunity to talk if they so
>desire. It save a lot of aggravation by listening to what they say
>and taking action if needed. Workers that feel connected do a better
>job and care about doing a good job for the customer. Sometimes they
>just want to say something about a TV show from the night before,
>other times it is to tell me about a safety issue they noticed, or
>some supplies getting low.
>
>Profit sharing and bonuses are important too. Employees will take the
>time to do things right and keep cost down if they know they will be
>rewarded for their efforts.

Yes, appeal to their sense of belonging and make them feel validated.
*puke*



S.

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On 2012-12-22, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

> too. I know of one case recently where a woman had her granddaughter
> push a cart out and when caught, she tried to explain it as the child
> made a mistake.

I've had to force my Mom back into the store after catching her
pushing a full, unbagged, shopping cart out the door. "I payed for
it!", she protested. Even I couldn't say whether it was intentional
or not. (sigh)

nb

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On 12/22/2012 1:34 AM, Steve Pope wrote:
> Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>
>> I do the same thing. I see every employee every day. I make it a
>> point to say hello and give them the opportunity to talk if they so
>> desire. It save a lot of aggravation by listening to what they say
>> and taking action if needed. Workers that feel connected do a better
>> job and care about doing a good job for the customer. Sometimes they
>> just want to say something about a TV show from the night before,
>> other times it is to tell me about a safety issue they noticed, or
>> some supplies getting low.
>>
>> Profit sharing and bonuses are important too. Employees will take the
>> time to do things right and keep cost down if they know they will be
>> rewarded for their efforts.
>
> Yes, appeal to their sense of belonging and make them feel validated.
> *puke*

Intrinsic rewards are just as valuable as other types of compensation.
Just because you don't believe it doesn't mean it's not true.

nancy

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Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
> On Fri, 21 Dec 2012 08:09:07 -0800, sf > wrote:
>
> >On Fri, 21 Dec 2012 08:32:33 -0500, "Somebody" >
> >wrote:
> >
> >> Also, retail clerks are told to greet customer to decrease shrinkage.
> >> Supposedly, there is less theft if would be thieves know they have been
> >> noticed.
> >
> >In Grocery stores? I've only seen one grocery shop lifter in my life
> >and nobody seemed to care. I brought their attention to him, but they
> >just let him walk out. It was a homeless guy and it was just one
> >large can of food. I guess it was their way of feeding the homeless.
>
> Theft is rampant in some areas. Steaks fit into trousers very well.
> People have been know to push and entire cart of food out the door
> too. I know of one case recently where a woman had her granddaughter
> push a cart out and when caught, she tried to explain it as the child
> made a mistake.

One store employee once told me that they caught a large woman waddling out
of the store (K-Mart). She had a 19" TV squeezed between her thighs
underneath her dress. hahahaha

g.

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Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
> Profit sharing and bonuses are important too. Employees will take the
> time to do things right and keep cost down if they know they will be
> rewarded for their efforts.

In my company the current boss is the son of who really ran the business for
50 years. 3 years ago, his mother died and his dad died with her mentally.
He's given up on life. So now the business is all up to the son.

He's a lazy ass that doesn't want to work. He immediately cut out all
benefits like vacation time and christmas bonuses. He wants all the profits
for himself.

This year I got tired of it. I mentioned Christmas bonus and he starts
crying about no money in the business account. This year I called him on
that and explained just WHY there was no money in the company account.

So I got one this year but sad that I had to guilt him into it. Would have
been better if he had done that on his own to show appreciation.

G.

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On Sat, 22 Dec 2012 06:34:49 +0000 (UTC),
(Steve Pope) wrote:

>Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>
>>I do the same thing. I see every employee every day. I make it a
>>point to say hello and give them the opportunity to talk if they so
>>desire. It save a lot of aggravation by listening to what they say
>>and taking action if needed. Workers that feel connected do a better
>>job and care about doing a good job for the customer. Sometimes they
>>just want to say something about a TV show from the night before,
>>other times it is to tell me about a safety issue they noticed, or
>>some supplies getting low.
>>
>>Profit sharing and bonuses are important too. Employees will take the
>>time to do things right and keep cost down if they know they will be
>>rewarded for their efforts.
>
>Yes, appeal to their sense of belonging and make them feel validated.
>*puke*
>
>
>
>S.

I'm sorry that you've worked for jerks all your life. Our employees
really do care and really do know their contribution helps. Most have
been with the company for 10+ years and have been through a flood, a
fire, economic downturn, and some really good times. In the bad
years, there was no bonus. In the good years, it can be two months
pay. No matter how slow things were, no one ever missed their 40 hour
pay. No one has been laid off in 25 years (although some have been
deservedly fired)

I could tell you many stories if how this group pulls together to help
each other and the company and how we've helped them. Probably
difficult in a huge corporation, but with 20 people, we can do a lot
together.

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On Sat, 22 Dec 2012 09:09:15 -0500, Gary > wrote:

>
>He's a lazy ass that doesn't want to work. He immediately cut out all
>benefits like vacation time and christmas bonuses. He wants all the profits
>for himself.
>
>This year I got tired of it. I mentioned Christmas bonus and he starts
>crying about no money in the business account. This year I called him on
>that and explained just WHY there was no money in the company account.
>
>So I got one this year but sad that I had to guilt him into it. Would have
>been better if he had done that on his own to show appreciation.
>
>G.

That often happens with second generation ownership. The old man
struggles to make a good business and the kids just want to rake it
in.

A good business owner knows he can only do so much himself. He has to
hire good people, trust them, reward them, and share the benefits.
Both have to be honest with each other too. You can't make empty
promises and get dedication down the road. Nor can you BS that you
can do something you are incapable of doing

Our regular employees get overtime of course, salaried do not. Every
once in a while, after a time of "extra effort" they may get a
restaurant gift certificate as a thank you. Both get generous reward
every five years of service. Ten years is usually a weekend away, 15
years is pretty much a trip to anywhere you want to go. In my case it
was Italy for 10 days. In spite of what Steve Pope's feelings are,
there is every reason to do a good job.

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"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 22 Dec 2012 06:34:49 +0000 (UTC),
> (Steve Pope) wrote:
>
>>Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>>
>>>I do the same thing. I see every employee every day. I make it a
>>>point to say hello and give them the opportunity to talk if they so
>>>desire. It save a lot of aggravation by listening to what they say
>>>and taking action if needed. Workers that feel connected do a better
>>>job and care about doing a good job for the customer. Sometimes they
>>>just want to say something about a TV show from the night before,
>>>other times it is to tell me about a safety issue they noticed, or
>>>some supplies getting low.
>>>
>>>Profit sharing and bonuses are important too. Employees will take the
>>>time to do things right and keep cost down if they know they will be
>>>rewarded for their efforts.
>>
>>Yes, appeal to their sense of belonging and make them feel validated.
>>*puke*
>>
>>
>>
>>S.
>
> I'm sorry that you've worked for jerks all your life. Our employees
> really do care and really do know their contribution helps. Most have
> been with the company for 10+ years and have been through a flood, a
> fire, economic downturn, and some really good times. In the bad
> years, there was no bonus. In the good years, it can be two months
> pay. No matter how slow things were, no one ever missed their 40 hour
> pay. No one has been laid off in 25 years (although some have been
> deservedly fired)
>
> I could tell you many stories if how this group pulls together to help
> each other and the company and how we've helped them. Probably
> difficult in a huge corporation, but with 20 people, we can do a lot
> together.


Can I put an application?

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Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

>On Sat, 22 Dec 2012 06:34:49 +0000 (UTC),

>>>I do the same thing. I see every employee every day. I make it a
>>>point to say hello and give them the opportunity to talk if they so
>>>desire. It save a lot of aggravation by listening to what they say
>>>and taking action if needed. Workers that feel connected do a better
>>>job and care about doing a good job for the customer. Sometimes they
>>>just want to say something about a TV show from the night before,
>>>other times it is to tell me about a safety issue they noticed, or
>>>some supplies getting low.
>>>
>>>Profit sharing and bonuses are important too. Employees will take the
>>>time to do things right and keep cost down if they know they will be
>>>rewarded for their efforts.
>>
>>Yes, appeal to their sense of belonging and make them feel validated.
>>*puke*

>I'm sorry that you've worked for jerks all your life.

Let us just say I am cynical. I have seen the psycho-social
techniques that employers and businesses use on their workers,
in fact they are trained to do this, when at bottom they are
only in it for the money and ultimately treat their workers like
dirt.

And I actually believe it's getting worse, not better -- perhaps
due to the decline of socialism and the increase in globalization.
In any event, it is a real effect and is a genuine problem.


Steve

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On 12/22/2012 11:08 AM, Steve Pope wrote:
> Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 22 Dec 2012 06:34:49 +0000 (UTC),
>
>>>> I do the same thing. I see every employee every day. I make it a
>>>> point to say hello and give them the opportunity to talk if they so
>>>> desire. It save a lot of aggravation by listening to what they say
>>>> and taking action if needed. Workers that feel connected do a better
>>>> job and care about doing a good job for the customer. Sometimes they
>>>> just want to say something about a TV show from the night before,
>>>> other times it is to tell me about a safety issue they noticed, or
>>>> some supplies getting low.
>>>>
>>>> Profit sharing and bonuses are important too. Employees will take the
>>>> time to do things right and keep cost down if they know they will be
>>>> rewarded for their efforts.
>>>
>>> Yes, appeal to their sense of belonging and make them feel validated.
>>> *puke*
>
>> I'm sorry that you've worked for jerks all your life.
>
> Let us just say I am cynical. I have seen the psycho-social
> techniques that employers and businesses use on their workers,
> in fact they are trained to do this, when at bottom they are
> only in it for the money and ultimately treat their workers like
> dirt.
>
> Steve
>
WalMart aside (and I have never worked there), it's nice when employers
say thank you. Doesn't matter what time of year it is. I worked for a
privately owned company where I was suprised to be handed a bonus check.
Another company gave everyone a holiday spiral sliced ham. I've
attended company paid banquets and parties. Even a trip to a theme
park. Too many employees don't even get a verbal thank you for doing a
good job. IMHO, it does count for something.

Jill

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"Steve Pope" > wrote in message
...
> Let us just say I am cynical. I have seen the psycho-social
> techniques that employers and businesses use on their workers,
> in fact they are trained to do this, when at bottom they are
> only in it for the money and ultimately treat their workers like
> dirt.
>
> And I actually believe it's getting worse, not better -- perhaps
> due to the decline of socialism and the increase in globalization.
> In any event, it is a real effect and is a genuine problem.
>
>
> Steve


I had one boss that was new and wanted to be a good boss and would come
around all excited and smiling and say "you are doing a good job!" But the
guy had no clue what I did or if I did a good or bad job. It was so fake
I'd rather the guy had just not said anything, or maybe would have a real
conversation with me.

I know Wal-mart is cheaper, but I don't like that they give their employees
fewer benefits than unionized stores, and will literally close a store where
employees attempt to unionize... The quality of their produce is not that
great. I guess canned good are the same wherever you get them and are
cheaper, but I feel dirty shopping at Wal-Mart and feel like I'm hurting the
working class in some vague way.

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On Sat, 22 Dec 2012 11:02:03 -0500, "Somebody" >
wrote:

>"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Sat, 22 Dec 2012 06:34:49 +0000 (UTC),
>> (Steve Pope) wrote:
>>
>>>Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>>>
>>>>I do the same thing. I see every employee every day. I make it a
>>>>point to say hello and give them the opportunity to talk if they so
>>>>desire. It save a lot of aggravation by listening to what they say
>>>>and taking action if needed. Workers that feel connected do a better
>>>>job and care about doing a good job for the customer. Sometimes they
>>>>just want to say something about a TV show from the night before,
>>>>other times it is to tell me about a safety issue they noticed, or
>>>>some supplies getting low.
>>>>
>>>>Profit sharing and bonuses are important too. Employees will take the
>>>>time to do things right and keep cost down if they know they will be
>>>>rewarded for their efforts.
>>>
>>>Yes, appeal to their sense of belonging and make them feel validated.
>>>*puke*
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>S.
>>
>> I'm sorry that you've worked for jerks all your life. Our employees
>> really do care and really do know their contribution helps. Most have
>> been with the company for 10+ years and have been through a flood, a
>> fire, economic downturn, and some really good times. In the bad
>> years, there was no bonus. In the good years, it can be two months
>> pay. No matter how slow things were, no one ever missed their 40 hour
>> pay. No one has been laid off in 25 years (although some have been
>> deservedly fired)
>>
>> I could tell you many stories if how this group pulls together to help
>> each other and the company and how we've helped them. Probably
>> difficult in a huge corporation, but with 20 people, we can do a lot
>> together.
>
>
>Can I put an application?

Yeah, you can put an application up your ass... choose a large
suppository. With how you construct a simple sentence it's very
evident that you possess absolutely no marketable skills.

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Ed Pawlowski wrote:

> Theft is rampant in some areas. Steaks fit into trousers very well.
> People have been know to push and entire cart of food out the door
> too.

heh-- I saw that once. It was in the self-checkout line. The woman waited
until the cashier left her station, then she scooted out the door.

I also saw a kid slip a 12-pack into his backpack at a Safeway. It took him
about 3 seconds, very slick. Another time, at the same store, the mgr
caught a different kid trying the same thing.

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On Sat, 22 Dec 2012 11:46:32 -0500, jmcquown >
wrote:

>On 12/22/2012 11:08 AM, Steve Pope wrote:
>> Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, 22 Dec 2012 06:34:49 +0000 (UTC),
>>
>>>>> I do the same thing. I see every employee every day. I make it a
>>>>> point to say hello and give them the opportunity to talk if they so
>>>>> desire. It save a lot of aggravation by listening to what they say
>>>>> and taking action if needed. Workers that feel connected do a better
>>>>> job and care about doing a good job for the customer. Sometimes they
>>>>> just want to say something about a TV show from the night before,
>>>>> other times it is to tell me about a safety issue they noticed, or
>>>>> some supplies getting low.
>>>>>
>>>>> Profit sharing and bonuses are important too. Employees will take the
>>>>> time to do things right and keep cost down if they know they will be
>>>>> rewarded for their efforts.
>>>>
>>>> Yes, appeal to their sense of belonging and make them feel validated.
>>>> *puke*
>>
>>> I'm sorry that you've worked for jerks all your life.
>>
>> Let us just say I am cynical. I have seen the psycho-social
>> techniques that employers and businesses use on their workers,
>> in fact they are trained to do this, when at bottom they are
>> only in it for the money and ultimately treat their workers like
>> dirt.

This sounds like your fantasy, not something of which you have first
hand experience... I am highly suspect that you have any marketable
skills... cynic is not a skill, it's a psychosis.

>WalMart aside (and I have never worked there), it's nice when employers
>say thank you. Doesn't matter what time of year it is. I worked for a
>privately owned company where I was suprised to be handed a bonus check.
> Another company gave everyone a holiday spiral sliced ham. I've
>attended company paid banquets and parties. Even a trip to a theme
>park. Too many employees don't even get a verbal thank you for doing a
>good job. IMHO, it does count for something.
>
>Jill

Those who work for organizations like Steve Pope described hire very
low skilled workers who are unreliable, very transient, and easily
replaceable. I don't ever remember Steve Pope mentioning what sort of
work he did for a living, if he has ever been gainfully employed.

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Steve Pope wrote:

> Let us just say I am cynical. I have seen the psycho-social
> techniques that employers and businesses use on their workers,
> in fact they are trained to do this, when at bottom they are
> only in it for the money and ultimately treat their workers like
> dirt.

Smiley faces are a good start, but if you want employees to give their all,
the boss has to share the wealth.

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On Sat, 22 Dec 2012 11:50:02 -0500, "Somebody" >
wrote:

>"Steve Pope" > wrote in message
...
>> Let us just say I am cynical. I have seen the psycho-social
>> techniques that employers and businesses use on their workers,
>> in fact they are trained to do this, when at bottom they are
>> only in it for the money and ultimately treat their workers like
>> dirt.

>
>I had one boss that was new and wanted to be a good boss and would come
>around all excited and smiling and say "you are doing a good job!" But the
>guy had no clue what I did or if I did a good or bad job.

Obviously you didn't do anything nor do you know how to do anything...
he was obviously being polite before firing your useless ass.

>I know Wal-mart is cheaper, but I don't like that they give their employees
>fewer benefits than unionized stores.

The truth is that Walmart pays more and offers better benefits than
any other similar retail company... check at their web site, it's all
there. I know several people who work for Walmart, they love their
jobs. Walmart bends over backwards to help their employees, but what
they won't tolerate is drugging, stealing, and no shows. Those who
say Walmart is unfair are always those who they or a relative/friend
were dismissed for cause, one or all of the above.

>I feel dirty shopping at Wal-Mart and feel like I'm hurting the
>working class in some vague way.

There's nothing vague about that, you'd feel dirty no matter where you
are because you are dirt.

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On 12/22/2012 10:49 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

> A good business owner knows he can only do so much himself. He has to
> hire good people, trust them, reward them, and share the benefits.
> Both have to be honest with each other too. You can't make empty
> promises and get dedication down the road. Nor can you BS that you
> can do something you are incapable of doing
>
> Our regular employees get overtime of course, salaried do not. Every
> once in a while, after a time of "extra effort" they may get a
> restaurant gift certificate as a thank you. Both get generous reward
> every five years of service. Ten years is usually a weekend away, 15
> years is pretty much a trip to anywhere you want to go. In my case it
> was Italy for 10 days. In spite of what Steve Pope's feelings are,
> there is every reason to do a good job.

Those are great anniversary incentives! Recently for my 15 years of
service I got to select from an online catalog but there wasn't anything
as decent as a trip, so I selected a knife set. ;)

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"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
...

> A good business owner knows he can only do so much himself. He has to
> hire good people, trust them, reward them, and share the benefits.
> Both have to be honest with each other too. You can't make empty
> promises and get dedication down the road. Nor can you BS that you
> can do something you are incapable of doing

Was watching this last night and seemed apropos... basically, don't be an
a$$hole whether you are an employee or employer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKT9v3PwmvA