I would say every school across America should do a locker search before
school begins and a body/belongings search of every child coming to
school tomorrow morning.

Every parent needs to check and doublecheck the inaccessibility at home
of their guns-these events will stir their child's curiousity about "the
family guns." The big news will be an innocent child shooting someone.

Teachers with guns in their purses? Bad idea. Elementary age school
children have been known to steal from the teacher's purse. I know
specifically of a second grader...

On Sun, 16 Dec 2012 11:39:20 -0600, (z z) wrote:

> I would say every school across America should do a locker search before
> school begins and a body/belongings search of every child coming to
> school tomorrow morning.
>
> Every parent needs to check and doublecheck the inaccessibility at home
> of their guns-these events will stir their child's curiousity about "the
> family guns." The big news will be an innocent child shooting someone.
>
> Teachers with guns in their purses? Bad idea. Elementary age school
> children have been known to steal from the teacher's purse. I know
> specifically of a second grader...

The gun nuts want teachers to be packing and not in a purse.

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

z z wrote:
>
> I would say every school across America should do a locker search before
> school begins and a body/belongings search of every child coming to
> school tomorrow morning.
>
> Every parent needs to check and doublecheck the inaccessibility at home
> of their guns-these events will stir their child's curiousity about "the
> family guns." The big news will be an innocent child shooting someone.
>
> Teachers with guns in their purses? Bad idea. Elementary age school
> children have been known to steal from the teacher's purse. I know
> specifically of a second grader...

angie in space!

On Sun, 16 Dec 2012 11:39:20 -0600, (z z) wrote:

>I would say every school across America should do a locker search before
>school begins and a body/belongings search of every child coming to
>school tomorrow morning.
>
>Every parent needs to check and doublecheck the inaccessibility at home
>of their guns-these events will stir their child's curiousity about "the
>family guns." The big news will be an innocent child shooting someone.
>
>Teachers with guns in their purses? Bad idea. Elementary age school
>children have been known to steal from the teacher's purse. I know
>specifically of a second grader...

Just for the sake or perspective, statistically in the U.S, people
have a better chance of being hit by lightning than being shot by a
psycho. Mind you, the odds of being shot and killed by a police
officer is also higher... mass shootings have been in decline since
around 2000, the peak was in 1929.

On Mon, 17 Dec 2012 07:42:35 +1100, Jeßus > wrote:

>On Sun, 16 Dec 2012 11:39:20 -0600, (z z) wrote:
>
>>I would say every school across America should do a locker search before
>>school begins and a body/belongings search of every child coming to
>>school tomorrow morning.
>>
>>Every parent needs to check and doublecheck the inaccessibility at home
>>of their guns-these events will stir their child's curiousity about "the
>>family guns." The big news will be an innocent child shooting someone.
>>
>>Teachers with guns in their purses? Bad idea. Elementary age school
>>children have been known to steal from the teacher's purse. I know
>>specifically of a second grader...
>
>Just for the sake or perspective, statistically in the U.S, people
>have a better chance of being hit by lightning than being shot by a
>psycho. Mind you, the odds of being shot and killed by a police
>officer is also higher... mass shootings have been in decline since
>around 2000, the peak was in 1929.

The graph I saw this afternoon showed a peak in the 90s.
[note this is from 2010]
http://www.aolnews.com/2010/03/01/op...ass-shootings/

Where's your data?

Jim

On Sun, 16 Dec 2012 16:16:12 -0500, Jim Elbrecht >
wrote:

>On Mon, 17 Dec 2012 07:42:35 +1100, Jeßus > wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 16 Dec 2012 11:39:20 -0600, (z z) wrote:
>>
>>>I would say every school across America should do a locker search before
>>>school begins and a body/belongings search of every child coming to
>>>school tomorrow morning.
>>>
>>>Every parent needs to check and doublecheck the inaccessibility at home
>>>of their guns-these events will stir their child's curiousity about "the
>>>family guns." The big news will be an innocent child shooting someone.
>>>
>>>Teachers with guns in their purses? Bad idea. Elementary age school
>>>children have been known to steal from the teacher's purse. I know
>>>specifically of a second grader...
>>
>>Just for the sake or perspective, statistically in the U.S, people
>>have a better chance of being hit by lightning than being shot by a
>>psycho. Mind you, the odds of being shot and killed by a police
>>officer is also higher... mass shootings have been in decline since
>>around 2000, the peak was in 1929.
>
>The graph I saw this afternoon showed a peak in the 90s.
>[note this is from 2010]
>http://www.aolnews.com/2010/03/01/op...ass-shootings/
>
>Where's your data?

Was going on memory, but will see what I can find.

Jeßus wrote:
> On Sun, 16 Dec 2012 16:16:12 -0500, Jim Elbrecht >
> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 17 Dec 2012 07:42:35 +1100, Jeßus > wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, 16 Dec 2012 11:39:20 -0600, (z z) wrote:
>>>
>>>> I would say every school across America should do a locker search before
>>>> school begins and a body/belongings search of every child coming to
>>>> school tomorrow morning.
>>>>
>>>> Every parent needs to check and doublecheck the inaccessibility at home
>>>> of their guns-these events will stir their child's curiousity about "the
>>>> family guns." The big news will be an innocent child shooting someone.
>>>>
>>>> Teachers with guns in their purses? Bad idea. Elementary age school
>>>> children have been known to steal from the teacher's purse. I know
>>>> specifically of a second grader...
>>> Just for the sake or perspective, statistically in the U.S, people
>>> have a better chance of being hit by lightning than being shot by a
>>> psycho. Mind you, the odds of being shot and killed by a police
>>> officer is also higher... mass shootings have been in decline since
>>> around 2000, the peak was in 1929.
>> The graph I saw this afternoon showed a peak in the 90s.
>> [note this is from 2010]
>> http://www.aolnews.com/2010/03/01/op...ass-shootings/
>>
>> Where's your data?
>
> Was going on memory, but will see what I can find.


Your data doesn't jive because one of you is talking about mass
shootings and the other, mass murders. (the worst massacres have not
involved guns, and there was a really bad one in 1927)

On Mon, 17 Dec 2012 09:19:00 +1100, Jeßus > wrote:

>On Sun, 16 Dec 2012 16:16:12 -0500, Jim Elbrecht >
>wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 17 Dec 2012 07:42:35 +1100, Jeßus > wrote:
>>
>>>On Sun, 16 Dec 2012 11:39:20 -0600, (z z) wrote:
>>>
>>>>I would say every school across America should do a locker search before
>>>>school begins and a body/belongings search of every child coming to
>>>>school tomorrow morning.
>>>>
>>>>Every parent needs to check and doublecheck the inaccessibility at home
>>>>of their guns-these events will stir their child's curiousity about "the
>>>>family guns." The big news will be an innocent child shooting someone.
>>>>
>>>>Teachers with guns in their purses? Bad idea. Elementary age school
>>>>children have been known to steal from the teacher's purse. I know
>>>>specifically of a second grader...
>>>
>>>Just for the sake or perspective, statistically in the U.S, people
>>>have a better chance of being hit by lightning than being shot by a
>>>psycho. Mind you, the odds of being shot and killed by a police
>>>officer is also higher... mass shootings have been in decline since
>>>around 2000, the peak was in 1929.
>>
>>The graph I saw this afternoon showed a peak in the 90s.
>>[note this is from 2010]
>>http://www.aolnews.com/2010/03/01/op...ass-shootings/

That chart contradicts Grant Duwe's own data, why I don't know...
you'll have to ask amCharts.com about that.

>>Where's your data?
>
>Was going on memory, but will see what I can find.

I found the article I had in mind:

"Grant Duwe, a criminologist with the Minnesota Department of
Corrections who has written a history of mass murders in America, said
that while mass shootings rose between the 1960s and the 1990s, they
actually dropped in the 2000s. And mass killings actually reached
their peak in 1929, according to his data. He estimates that there
were 32 in the 1980s, 42 in the 1990s and 26 in the first decade of
the century"
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/1...n_2308493.html


Also these:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2969268/posts
http://www.policeone.com/active-shoo...mpact-is-huge/
http://www.tampabay.com/news/crimino...crease/1266381
http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/...icle-1.1221062



--
Politicians are like sperm.
One in a million turn out to be an actual human being.

On Sun, 16 Dec 2012 16:24:00 -0600, zxcvbob >
wrote:

>Jeßus wrote:
>> On Sun, 16 Dec 2012 16:16:12 -0500, Jim Elbrecht >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, 17 Dec 2012 07:42:35 +1100, Jeßus > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sun, 16 Dec 2012 11:39:20 -0600, (z z) wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I would say every school across America should do a locker search before
>>>>> school begins and a body/belongings search of every child coming to
>>>>> school tomorrow morning.
>>>>>
>>>>> Every parent needs to check and doublecheck the inaccessibility at home
>>>>> of their guns-these events will stir their child's curiousity about "the
>>>>> family guns." The big news will be an innocent child shooting someone.
>>>>>
>>>>> Teachers with guns in their purses? Bad idea. Elementary age school
>>>>> children have been known to steal from the teacher's purse. I know
>>>>> specifically of a second grader...
>>>> Just for the sake or perspective, statistically in the U.S, people
>>>> have a better chance of being hit by lightning than being shot by a
>>>> psycho. Mind you, the odds of being shot and killed by a police
>>>> officer is also higher... mass shootings have been in decline since
>>>> around 2000, the peak was in 1929.
>>> The graph I saw this afternoon showed a peak in the 90s.
>>> [note this is from 2010]
>>> http://www.aolnews.com/2010/03/01/op...ass-shootings/
>>>
>>> Where's your data?
>>
>> Was going on memory, but will see what I can find.
>
>
>Your data doesn't jive because one of you is talking about mass
>shootings and the other, mass murders. (the worst massacres have not
>involved guns, and there was a really bad one in 1927)

Ahh... good pick-up, thanks for that.

"zxcvbob" wrote:
>
>Jeßus wrote:
>> On Sun, 16 Dec 2012 16:16:12 -0500, Jim Elbrecht >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, 17 Dec 2012 07:42:35 +1100, Jeßus > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sun, 16 Dec 2012 11:39:20 -0600, (z z) wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I would say every school across America should do a locker search
>>>>> before
>>>>> school begins and a body/belongings search of every child coming to
>>>>> school tomorrow morning.
>>>>> Every parent needs to check and doublecheck the inaccessibility at
>>>>> home
>>>>> of their guns-these events will stir their child's curiousity about
>>>>> "the
>>>>> family guns." The big news will be an innocent child shooting someone.
>>>>> Teachers with guns in their purses? Bad idea. Elementary age school
>>>>> children have been known to steal from the teacher's purse. I know
>>>>> specifically of a second grader...
>>>> Just for the sake or perspective, statistically in the U.S, people
>>>> have a better chance of being hit by lightning than being shot by a
>>>> psycho. Mind you, the odds of being shot and killed by a police
>>>> officer is also higher... mass shootings have been in decline since
>>>> around 2000, the peak was in 1929.
>>> The graph I saw this afternoon showed a peak in the 90s. [note this is
>>> from 2010]
>>> http://www.aolnews.com/2010/03/01/op...ass-shootings/
>>>
>>> Where's your data?
>>
>> Was going on memory, but will see what I can find.
>
>
>Your data doesn't jive because one of you is talking about mass shootings
>and the other, mass murders. (the worst massacres have not involved guns,
>and there was a really bad one in 1927)

Is this the one you've in mind for 1927?

"zxcvbob" wrote:
>
>Jeßus wrote:
>> On Sun, 16 Dec 2012 16:16:12 -0500, Jim Elbrecht >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, 17 Dec 2012 07:42:35 +1100, Jeßus > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sun, 16 Dec 2012 11:39:20 -0600, (z z) wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I would say every school across America should do a locker search
>>>>> before
>>>>> school begins and a body/belongings search of every child coming to
>>>>> school tomorrow morning.
>>>>> Every parent needs to check and doublecheck the inaccessibility at
>>>>> home
>>>>> of their guns-these events will stir their child's curiousity about
>>>>> "the
>>>>> family guns." The big news will be an innocent child shooting someone.
>>>>> Teachers with guns in their purses? Bad idea. Elementary age school
>>>>> children have been known to steal from the teacher's purse. I know
>>>>> specifically of a second grader...
>>>> Just for the sake or perspective, statistically in the U.S, people
>>>> have a better chance of being hit by lightning than being shot by a
>>>> psycho. Mind you, the odds of being shot and killed by a police
>>>> officer is also higher... mass shootings have been in decline since
>>>> around 2000, the peak was in 1929.
>>> The graph I saw this afternoon showed a peak in the 90s. [note this is
>>> from 2010]
>>> http://www.aolnews.com/2010/03/01/op...ass-shootings/
>>>
>>> Where's your data?
>>
>> Was going on memory, but will see what I can find.
>
>
>Your data doesn't jive because one of you is talking about mass shootings
>and the other, mass murders. (the worst massacres have not involved guns,
>and there was a really bad one in 1927)

Is this the one you've in mind for 1927?

http://flaggedrevs.labs.wikimedia.or...chool_disaster

--
bill_n

On Sunday, December 16, 2012 4:33:38 PM UTC-6, Jeßus wrote:
> On Mon, 17 Dec 2012 09:19:00 +1100, Jeßus > wrote:
>
>
>
> >On Sun, 16 Dec 2012 16:16:12 -0500, Jim Elbrecht >
>
> >wrote:
>
> >
>
> >>On Mon, 17 Dec 2012 07:42:35 +1100, Jeßus > wrote:
>
> >>
>
> >>>On Sun, 16 Dec 2012 11:39:20 -0600, (z z) wrote:
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>I would say every school across America should do a locker search before
>
> >>>>school begins and a body/belongings search of every child coming to
>
> >>>>school tomorrow morning.
>
> >>>>
>
> >>>>Every parent needs to check and doublecheck the inaccessibility at home
>
> >>>>of their guns-these events will stir their child's curiousity about "the
>
> >>>>family guns." The big news will be an innocent child shooting someone..
>
> >>>>
>
> >>>>Teachers with guns in their purses? Bad idea. Elementary age school
>
> >>>>children have been known to steal from the teacher's purse. I know
>
> >>>>specifically of a second grader...
>
> >>>
>
> >>>Just for the sake or perspective, statistically in the U.S, people
>
> >>>have a better chance of being hit by lightning than being shot by a
>
> >>>psycho. Mind you, the odds of being shot and killed by a police
>
> >>>officer is also higher... mass shootings have been in decline since
>
> >>>around 2000, the peak was in 1929.
>
> >>
>
> >>The graph I saw this afternoon showed a peak in the 90s.
>
> >>[note this is from 2010]
>
> >>http://www.aolnews.com/2010/03/01/op...ass-shootings/
>
>
>
> That chart contradicts Grant Duwe's own data, why I don't know...
>
> you'll have to ask amCharts.com about that.
>
>
>
> >>Where's your data?
>
> >
>
> >Was going on memory, but will see what I can find.
>
>
>
> I found the article I had in mind:
>
>
>
> "Grant Duwe, a criminologist with the Minnesota Department of
>
> Corrections who has written a history of mass murders in America, said
>
> that while mass shootings rose between the 1960s and the 1990s, they
>
> actually dropped in the 2000s. And mass killings actually reached
>
> their peak in 1929, according to his data. He estimates that there
>
> were 32 in the 1980s, 42 in the 1990s and 26 in the first decade of
>
> the century"
>
> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/1...n_2308493.html
>
>
>
>
>
> Also these:
>
> http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2969268/posts
>
> http://www.policeone.com/active-shoo...mpact-is-huge/
>
> http://www.tampabay.com/news/crimino...crease/1266381
>
> http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/...icle-1.1221062
>
>
I'd be interesting to know when in 1929. Were most before or after the crash?

--Bryan

billn wrote:
> "zxcvbob" wrote:
>>
>> Jeßus wrote:
>>> On Sun, 16 Dec 2012 16:16:12 -0500, Jim Elbrecht >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Mon, 17 Dec 2012 07:42:35 +1100, Jeßus > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, 16 Dec 2012 11:39:20 -0600, (z z) wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I would say every school across America should do a locker search
>>>>>> before
>>>>>> school begins and a body/belongings search of every child coming to
>>>>>> school tomorrow morning.
>>>>>> Every parent needs to check and doublecheck the inaccessibility at
>>>>>> home
>>>>>> of their guns-these events will stir their child's curiousity
>>>>>> about "the
>>>>>> family guns." The big news will be an innocent child shooting
>>>>>> someone.
>>>>>> Teachers with guns in their purses? Bad idea. Elementary age school
>>>>>> children have been known to steal from the teacher's purse. I know
>>>>>> specifically of a second grader...
>>>>> Just for the sake or perspective, statistically in the U.S, people
>>>>> have a better chance of being hit by lightning than being shot by a
>>>>> psycho. Mind you, the odds of being shot and killed by a police
>>>>> officer is also higher... mass shootings have been in decline since
>>>>> around 2000, the peak was in 1929.
>>>> The graph I saw this afternoon showed a peak in the 90s. [note this
>>>> is from 2010]
>>>> http://www.aolnews.com/2010/03/01/op...ass-shootings/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Where's your data?
>>>
>>> Was going on memory, but will see what I can find.
>>
>>
>> Your data doesn't jive because one of you is talking about mass
>> shootings and the other, mass murders. (the worst massacres have not
>> involved guns, and there was a really bad one in 1927)
>
> Is this the one you've in mind for 1927?
>
> "zxcvbob" wrote:
>>
>> Jeßus wrote:
>>> On Sun, 16 Dec 2012 16:16:12 -0500, Jim Elbrecht >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Mon, 17 Dec 2012 07:42:35 +1100, Jeßus > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, 16 Dec 2012 11:39:20 -0600, (z z) wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I would say every school across America should do a locker search
>>>>>> before
>>>>>> school begins and a body/belongings search of every child coming to
>>>>>> school tomorrow morning.
>>>>>> Every parent needs to check and doublecheck the inaccessibility at
>>>>>> home
>>>>>> of their guns-these events will stir their child's curiousity
>>>>>> about "the
>>>>>> family guns." The big news will be an innocent child shooting
>>>>>> someone.
>>>>>> Teachers with guns in their purses? Bad idea. Elementary age school
>>>>>> children have been known to steal from the teacher's purse. I know
>>>>>> specifically of a second grader...
>>>>> Just for the sake or perspective, statistically in the U.S, people
>>>>> have a better chance of being hit by lightning than being shot by a
>>>>> psycho. Mind you, the odds of being shot and killed by a police
>>>>> officer is also higher... mass shootings have been in decline since
>>>>> around 2000, the peak was in 1929.
>>>> The graph I saw this afternoon showed a peak in the 90s. [note this
>>>> is from 2010]
>>>> http://www.aolnews.com/2010/03/01/op...ass-shootings/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Where's your data?
>>>
>>> Was going on memory, but will see what I can find.
>>
>>
>> Your data doesn't jive because one of you is talking about mass
>> shootings and the other, mass murders. (the worst massacres have not
>> involved guns, and there was a really bad one in 1927)
>
> Is this the one you've in mind for 1927?
>
> http://flaggedrevs.labs.wikimedia.or...chool_disaster
>


I'm not sure what that "flagged revs" is all about, but yes.

That 1927 story was fascinating-I had no idea there were so much earlier
precedents in the U.S. The things they didnt teach us in history!

You know that Kevin Bacon thing about degrees of separation? I would be
very interested in genealogical workups of all of these freaks of nature
to determine if a thread of insanity has been introduced and
reintroduced over centuries into their bloodlines. No religion is more
known for this than catholicism-traits are passed on and reinforced by
generations of marriages between degrees of cousins, in close
communities that don't bring in fresh blood.

On Sun, 16 Dec 2012 14:58:59 -0800 (PST), Bryan
> wrote:

>On Sunday, December 16, 2012 4:33:38 PM UTC-6, Jeßus wrote:
>> On Mon, 17 Dec 2012 09:19:00 +1100, Jeßus > wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> >On Sun, 16 Dec 2012 16:16:12 -0500, Jim Elbrecht >
>>
>> >wrote:
>>
>> >
>>
>> >>On Mon, 17 Dec 2012 07:42:35 +1100, Jeßus > wrote:
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >>>On Sun, 16 Dec 2012 11:39:20 -0600, (z z) wrote:
>>
>> >>>
>>
>> >>>>I would say every school across America should do a locker search before
>>
>> >>>>school begins and a body/belongings search of every child coming to
>>
>> >>>>school tomorrow morning.
>>
>> >>>>
>>
>> >>>>Every parent needs to check and doublecheck the inaccessibility at home
>>
>> >>>>of their guns-these events will stir their child's curiousity about "the
>>
>> >>>>family guns." The big news will be an innocent child shooting someone.
>>
>> >>>>
>>
>> >>>>Teachers with guns in their purses? Bad idea. Elementary age school
>>
>> >>>>children have been known to steal from the teacher's purse. I know
>>
>> >>>>specifically of a second grader...
>>
>> >>>
>>
>> >>>Just for the sake or perspective, statistically in the U.S, people
>>
>> >>>have a better chance of being hit by lightning than being shot by a
>>
>> >>>psycho. Mind you, the odds of being shot and killed by a police
>>
>> >>>officer is also higher... mass shootings have been in decline since
>>
>> >>>around 2000, the peak was in 1929.
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >>The graph I saw this afternoon showed a peak in the 90s.
>>
>> >>[note this is from 2010]
>>
>> >>http://www.aolnews.com/2010/03/01/op...ass-shootings/
>>
>>
>>
>> That chart contradicts Grant Duwe's own data, why I don't know...
>>
>> you'll have to ask amCharts.com about that.
>>
>>
>>
>> >>Where's your data?
>>
>> >
>>
>> >Was going on memory, but will see what I can find.
>>
>>
>>
>> I found the article I had in mind:
>>
>>
>>
>> "Grant Duwe, a criminologist with the Minnesota Department of
>>
>> Corrections who has written a history of mass murders in America, said
>>
>> that while mass shootings rose between the 1960s and the 1990s, they
>>
>> actually dropped in the 2000s. And mass killings actually reached
>>
>> their peak in 1929, according to his data. He estimates that there
>>
>> were 32 in the 1980s, 42 in the 1990s and 26 in the first decade of
>>
>> the century"
>>
>> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/1...n_2308493.html
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Also these:
>>
>> http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2969268/posts
>>
>> http://www.policeone.com/active-shoo...mpact-is-huge/
>>
>> http://www.tampabay.com/news/crimino...crease/1266381
>>
>> http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/...icle-1.1221062
>>
>>
>I'd be interesting to know when in 1929. Were most before or after the crash?

Good question, perhaps Jim call tell us. I'm having a lazy attack
right now.

Jeßus wrote:
> Jeßus > wrote:
>> Jim Elbrecht > wrote:
>>> Jeßus > wrote:
>>>> (z z) wrote:
>
>>>>>Teachers with guns in their purses? Bad idea.

Because it's better to be mowed down than to be able to stop the
attacker.

>>>>>Elementary age school
>>>>>children have been known to steal from the teacher's purse. I know
>>>>>specifically of a second grader...

Which is why a gun needs to be in a holster as anyone educated about
guns knows.

>>>>Just for the sake or perspective, statistically in the U.S, people
>>>>have a better chance of being hit by lightning than being shot by a
>>>>psycho. Mind you, the odds of being shot and killed by a police
>>>>officer is also higher... mass shootings have been in decline since
>>>>around 2000, the peak was in 1929.
>
>>>The graph I saw this afternoon showed a peak in the 90s.
>>>[note this is from 2010]
>>>http://www.aolnews.com/2010/03/01/op...ass-shootings/
>
> That chart contradicts Grant Duwe's own data, why I don't know...
> you'll have to ask amCharts.com about that.

When I saw the chart I thought the diffreence was in the total
population. Divide by the population of the country and that's how you
get the peak right about the time machine guns were banned. Of course
that did not stop criminals from committing crimes with machine guns.

On Dec 17, 1:43*pm, Doug Freyburger > wrote:
> Jeßus wrote:
> > Je us > wrote:
> >> Jim Elbrecht > wrote:
> >>> Je us > wrote:
> >>>> (z z) wrote:
>
> >>>>>Teachers with guns in their purses? Bad idea.
>
> Because it's better to be mowed down than to be able to stop the
> attacker.
>
> >>>>>Elementary age school
> >>>>>children have been known to steal from the teacher's purse. I know
> >>>>>specifically of a second grader...
>
> Which is why a gun needs to be in a holster as anyone educated about
> guns knows.
>
> >>>>Just for the sake or perspective, statistically in the U.S, people
> >>>>have a better chance of being hit by lightning than being shot by a
> >>>>psycho. Mind you, the odds of being shot and killed by a police
> >>>>officer is also higher... mass shootings have been in decline since
> >>>>around 2000, the peak was in 1929.
>
> >>>The graph I saw this afternoon showed a peak in the 90s.
> >>>[note this is from 2010]
> >>>http://www.aolnews.com/2010/03/01/op...decline-of-mas....
>
> > That chart contradicts Grant Duwe's own data, why I don't know...
> > you'll have to ask amCharts.com about that.
>
> When I saw the chart I thought the diffreence was in the total
> population. *Divide by the population of the country and that's how you
> get the peak right about the time machine guns were banned. *Of course
> that did not stop criminals from committing crimes with machine guns.


I perfer short burst to steady fire.

On Dec 16, 12:39*pm, (z z) wrote:


> I would say every school across America should do a locker search before
> school begins and a body/belongings search of every child coming to
> school tomorrow morning.
>
> Every parent needs to check and doublecheck the inaccessibility at home
> of their guns-these events will stir their child's curiousity about "the
> family guns." The big news will be an innocent child shooting someone.
>
> Teachers with guns in their purses? Bad idea. Elementary age school
> children have been known to steal from the teacher's purse. I know
> specifically of a second grader...


LOL.

TJ

On Dec 17, 6:16*pm, wrote:
On Dec 17, 1:43*pm, Doug Freyburger > wrote:



> > When I saw the chart I thought the diffreence was in the total
> > population. *Divide by the population of the country and that's how you
> > get the peak right about the time machine guns were banned. *Of course
> > that did not stop criminals from committing crimes with machine guns.



> I perfer short burst to steady fire.


I don't like weapons. I prefer wishing people to death. It can
be done. It takes effort. Teamwork. Concentration. Desire. All
kinds of stuff. But it can be done. It's hard to do alone. You need
support. Mere desire is not enough. I will kill with a weapon if
necessary, but I prefer wishing people to death. It's easier and also
harder to prove in court.

TJ

In article >, says...
>
> JeÃ?us wrote:
> > Jeßus > wrote:
> >> Jim Elbrecht > wrote:
> >>> Jeßus > wrote:
> >>>> (z z) wrote:
> >
> >>>>>Teachers with guns in their purses? Bad idea.
>
> Because it's better to be mowed down than to be able to stop the
> attacker.
>
> >>>>>Elementary age school
> >>>>>children have been known to steal from the teacher's purse. I know
> >>>>>specifically of a second grader...
>
> Which is why a gun needs to be in a holster as anyone educated about
> guns knows.
>
> >>>>Just for the sake or perspective, statistically in the U.S, people
> >>>>have a better chance of being hit by lightning than being shot by a
> >>>>psycho. Mind you, the odds of being shot and killed by a police
> >>>>officer is also higher... mass shootings have been in decline since
> >>>>around 2000, the peak was in 1929.
> >
> >>>The graph I saw this afternoon showed a peak in the 90s.
> >>>[note this is from 2010]
> >>>http://www.aolnews.com/2010/03/01/op...ass-shootings/
> >
> > That chart contradicts Grant Duwe's own data, why I don't know...
> > you'll have to ask amCharts.com about that.
>
> When I saw the chart I thought the diffreence was in the total
> population. Divide by the population of the country and that's how you
> get the peak right about the time machine guns were banned. Of course
> that did not stop criminals from committing crimes with machine guns.

It's my understanding that at the time of the machine gun ban, two
lawfully owned machine guns had been used in the commission of crimes in
the previous 50 years, one of them by a police officer. So it's really
difficult to see out how the machine gun ban would have had any effect
at all. This was a classic example of fixing something that wasn't
broken, and the NRA took a lot of heat for throwing the machine gun
owners under the bus.

Tommy Joe wrote:
>
> I don't like weapons. I prefer wishing people to death. It can
> be done. It takes effort. Teamwork. Concentration. Desire. All
> kinds of stuff. But it can be done. It's hard to do alone. You need
> support. Mere desire is not enough. I will kill with a weapon if
> necessary, but I prefer wishing people to death. It's easier and also
> harder to prove in court.

Given enough rope, most ppl tend to hang themselves eventually.

On Tue, 18 Dec 2012 12:57:24 -0500, Gary > wrote:

> Tommy Joe wrote:
> >
> > I don't like weapons. I prefer wishing people to death. It can
> > be done. It takes effort. Teamwork. Concentration. Desire. All
> > kinds of stuff. But it can be done. It's hard to do alone. You need
> > support. Mere desire is not enough. I will kill with a weapon if
> > necessary, but I prefer wishing people to death. It's easier and also
> > harder to prove in court.
>
> Given enough rope, most ppl tend to hang themselves eventually.

Okay, that made me laugh. I won't make you clean coffee off my
computer screen because I finished the cup before I got to your post.



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"Gary" > wrote in message ...

> Given enough rope, most ppl tend to hang themselves eventually.


Not if they have been properly taught rope safety.

"Tommy Joe" > wrote in message
...
On Dec 17, 6:16 pm, wrote:
On Dec 17, 1:43 pm, Doug Freyburger > wrote:



> > When I saw the chart I thought the diffreence was in the total
> > population. Divide by the population of the country and that's how you
> > get the peak right about the time machine guns were banned. Of course
> > that did not stop criminals from committing crimes with machine guns.



> I perfer short burst to steady fire.


I don't like weapons. I prefer wishing people to death. It can
be done. It takes effort. Teamwork. Concentration. Desire. All
kinds of stuff. But it can be done. It's hard to do alone. You need
support. Mere desire is not enough. I will kill with a weapon if
necessary, but I prefer wishing people to death. It's easier and also
harder to prove in court.

TJ

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that would be dandy technique for the police to use when confronted with an
armed baddie.