Hi there,

I have been aweful with my teeth when i was younger by being stupid
enough to eat large amounts of carbs and brush my teeth once a day ...
that silly 1 year stunt has left me with several areas of
decalcification (mostly around the gumline of the teeth). So because
of these decal'ed (as seen by white lines on my teeth) cavities (the
black dots that grow over time) start appearing over the years despite
my obsessive regimen of brushing within 20mins after eating each day
and flosing each time (so on avg i brush and floss 3x a day). And i
also use mouth wash jsut before brushing. I also use a scalar once a
month to scrape off any plaque. But yet cavities STILL keep
appearing.

My only hope is to buy some really effective fluroide mix (not the
lame-ass amounts in toothpaste or in water) that will produce a more
effective guard on my teeth, and hopefully restore them to a better
health over time.

Is there a fluroide rinse, or ideally some kind of solid mix i can
pack betweeen my teeth (like at the dentist office) each morning to
help my teeth out? I want ot be able to purchase this online or
through some black market if i have to.

I've asked my dentist but the prices are insane...Online, i am hoping
to find a cheaper deal for the same effectiveness.

Thanks

In article >,
(Quantass) wrote:

> Hi there,
>
> I have been aweful with my teeth when i was younger by being stupid
> enough to eat large amounts of carbs and brush my teeth once a day ...
> that silly 1 year stunt has left me with several areas of
> decalcification (mostly around the gumline of the teeth). So because
> of these decal'ed (as seen by white lines on my teeth) cavities (the
> black dots that grow over time) start appearing over the years despite
> my obsessive regimen of brushing within 20mins after eating each day
> and flosing each time (so on avg i brush and floss 3x a day). And i
> also use mouth wash jsut before brushing. I also use a scalar once a
> month to scrape off any plaque. But yet cavities STILL keep
> appearing.
>
> My only hope is to buy some really effective fluroide mix (not the
> lame-ass amounts in toothpaste or in water) that will produce a more
> effective guard on my teeth, and hopefully restore them to a better
> health over time.
>
> Is there a fluroide rinse, or ideally some kind of solid mix i can
> pack betweeen my teeth (like at the dentist office) each morning to
> help my teeth out? I want ot be able to purchase this online or
> through some black market if i have to.

Try talking with your pharmacist.

In article >,
(Quantass) wrote:

> Hi there,
>
> I have been aweful with my teeth when i was younger by being stupid
> enough to eat large amounts of carbs and brush my teeth once a day ...
> that silly 1 year stunt has left me with several areas of
> decalcification (mostly around the gumline of the teeth). So because
> of these decal'ed (as seen by white lines on my teeth) cavities (the
> black dots that grow over time) start appearing over the years despite
> my obsessive regimen of brushing within 20mins after eating each day
> and flosing each time (so on avg i brush and floss 3x a day). And i
> also use mouth wash jsut before brushing. I also use a scalar once a
> month to scrape off any plaque. But yet cavities STILL keep
> appearing.
>
> My only hope is to buy some really effective fluroide mix (not the
> lame-ass amounts in toothpaste or in water) that will produce a more
> effective guard on my teeth, and hopefully restore them to a better
> health over time.
>
> Is there a fluroide rinse, or ideally some kind of solid mix i can
> pack betweeen my teeth (like at the dentist office) each morning to
> help my teeth out? I want ot be able to purchase this online or
> through some black market if i have to.

Try talking with your pharmacist.

In article >,
Stan Horwitz > wrote:

> In article >,
> (Quantass) wrote:
>
> > Hi there,
> >
> > I have been aweful with my teeth when i was younger by being stupid
> > enough to eat large amounts of carbs and brush my teeth once a day ...
> > that silly 1 year stunt has left me with several areas of
> > decalcification (mostly around the gumline of the teeth). So because
> > of these decal'ed (as seen by white lines on my teeth) cavities (the
> > black dots that grow over time) start appearing over the years despite
> > my obsessive regimen of brushing within 20mins after eating each day
> > and flosing each time (so on avg i brush and floss 3x a day). And i
> > also use mouth wash jsut before brushing. I also use a scalar once a
> > month to scrape off any plaque. But yet cavities STILL keep
> > appearing.
> >
> > My only hope is to buy some really effective fluroide mix (not the
> > lame-ass amounts in toothpaste or in water) that will produce a more
> > effective guard on my teeth, and hopefully restore them to a better
> > health over time.
> >
> > Is there a fluroide rinse, or ideally some kind of solid mix i can
> > pack betweeen my teeth (like at the dentist office) each morning to
> > help my teeth out? I want ot be able to purchase this online or
> > through some black market if i have to.
>
> Try talking with your pharmacist.

And give up soda pop.

Permanently.

K.

In article >,
Stan Horwitz > wrote:

> In article >,
> (Quantass) wrote:
>
> > Hi there,
> >
> > I have been aweful with my teeth when i was younger by being stupid
> > enough to eat large amounts of carbs and brush my teeth once a day ...
> > that silly 1 year stunt has left me with several areas of
> > decalcification (mostly around the gumline of the teeth). So because
> > of these decal'ed (as seen by white lines on my teeth) cavities (the
> > black dots that grow over time) start appearing over the years despite
> > my obsessive regimen of brushing within 20mins after eating each day
> > and flosing each time (so on avg i brush and floss 3x a day). And i
> > also use mouth wash jsut before brushing. I also use a scalar once a
> > month to scrape off any plaque. But yet cavities STILL keep
> > appearing.
> >
> > My only hope is to buy some really effective fluroide mix (not the
> > lame-ass amounts in toothpaste or in water) that will produce a more
> > effective guard on my teeth, and hopefully restore them to a better
> > health over time.
> >
> > Is there a fluroide rinse, or ideally some kind of solid mix i can
> > pack betweeen my teeth (like at the dentist office) each morning to
> > help my teeth out? I want ot be able to purchase this online or
> > through some black market if i have to.
>
> Try talking with your pharmacist.

And give up soda pop.

Permanently.

K.

"Quantass" > wrote in message
om...
> Hi there,
>
> I have been aweful with my teeth when i was younger by being stupid
> enough to eat large amounts of carbs and brush my teeth once a day ...
> that silly 1 year stunt has left me with several areas of
> decalcification (mostly around the gumline of the teeth). So because
> of these decal'ed (as seen by white lines on my teeth) cavities (the
> black dots that grow over time) start appearing over the years despite
> my obsessive regimen of brushing within 20mins after eating each day
> and flosing each time (so on avg i brush and floss 3x a day). And i
> also use mouth wash jsut before brushing. I also use a scalar once a
> month to scrape off any plaque. But yet cavities STILL keep
> appearing.
>
> My only hope is to buy some really effective fluroide mix (not the
> lame-ass amounts in toothpaste or in water) that will produce a more
> effective guard on my teeth, and hopefully restore them to a better
> health over time.
>
> Is there a fluroide rinse, or ideally some kind of solid mix i can
> pack betweeen my teeth (like at the dentist office) each morning to
> help my teeth out? I want ot be able to purchase this online or
> through some black market if i have to.
>
> I've asked my dentist but the prices are insane...Online, i am hoping
> to find a cheaper deal for the same effectiveness.
>
> Thanks

Talk with Dr Kevorkian.

Jack End

"Quantass" > wrote in message
om...
> Hi there,
>
> I have been aweful with my teeth when i was younger by being stupid
> enough to eat large amounts of carbs and brush my teeth once a day ...
> that silly 1 year stunt has left me with several areas of
> decalcification (mostly around the gumline of the teeth). So because
> of these decal'ed (as seen by white lines on my teeth) cavities (the
> black dots that grow over time) start appearing over the years despite
> my obsessive regimen of brushing within 20mins after eating each day
> and flosing each time (so on avg i brush and floss 3x a day). And i
> also use mouth wash jsut before brushing. I also use a scalar once a
> month to scrape off any plaque. But yet cavities STILL keep
> appearing.
>
> My only hope is to buy some really effective fluroide mix (not the
> lame-ass amounts in toothpaste or in water) that will produce a more
> effective guard on my teeth, and hopefully restore them to a better
> health over time.
>
> Is there a fluroide rinse, or ideally some kind of solid mix i can
> pack betweeen my teeth (like at the dentist office) each morning to
> help my teeth out? I want ot be able to purchase this online or
> through some black market if i have to.
>
> I've asked my dentist but the prices are insane...Online, i am hoping
> to find a cheaper deal for the same effectiveness.
>
> Thanks

Talk with Dr Kevorkian.

Jack End

Johnson and Johnson make ACT mouthwash, a fluoride rinse. It is sold
in the US, and can be ordered online.

http://www.jnjoralhealth.com/act/professionals.html

I couldn't find anything at the Shoppers Drug Mart website. In the US,
it is sold at grocery stores, discount stores, pharmacies, etc. Places
like Kroger, Ralph's, Rite Aid, Target, Walmart, etc. So maybe Zellers
or Canadian Tire or who knows where.

If you're near the border, cross over and pick some up.

Any chance you're brushing too hard or too often? That plays havoc on
enamel. If your brush looks like an old broom after a few weeks,
you're brushing too hard.

Other ways to keep your teeth clean include chewing sugarless gum after
eating or eating cheese at the end of a meal. The casseins in cheese
supposedly suppress cavity bacteria. There are even chewing gums that
have these added, to improve teeth cleaning between brushing.
Greg Zywicki

Johnson and Johnson make ACT mouthwash, a fluoride rinse. It is sold
in the US, and can be ordered online.

http://www.jnjoralhealth.com/act/professionals.html

I couldn't find anything at the Shoppers Drug Mart website. In the US,
it is sold at grocery stores, discount stores, pharmacies, etc. Places
like Kroger, Ralph's, Rite Aid, Target, Walmart, etc. So maybe Zellers
or Canadian Tire or who knows where.

If you're near the border, cross over and pick some up.

Any chance you're brushing too hard or too often? That plays havoc on
enamel. If your brush looks like an old broom after a few weeks,
you're brushing too hard.

Other ways to keep your teeth clean include chewing sugarless gum after
eating or eating cheese at the end of a meal. The casseins in cheese
supposedly suppress cavity bacteria. There are even chewing gums that
have these added, to improve teeth cleaning between brushing.
Greg Zywicki

On 3 Nov 2004 07:15:51 -0800, "Zywicki" > wrote:

>Johnson and Johnson make ACT mouthwash, a fluoride rinse. It is sold
>in the US, and can be ordered online.

Second that. My dentist recommended the very brand.

Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd
AAC(F)BV66.0748.CA


"If the soup had been as hot as the claret, if the claret had been as
old as the bird, and if the bird's breasts had been as full as the
waitress's, it would have been a very good dinner."

-- Duncan Hines

To reply, replace "spaminator" with "cox"

On 3 Nov 2004 07:15:51 -0800, "Zywicki" > wrote:

>Johnson and Johnson make ACT mouthwash, a fluoride rinse. It is sold
>in the US, and can be ordered online.

Second that. My dentist recommended the very brand.

Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd
AAC(F)BV66.0748.CA


"If the soup had been as hot as the claret, if the claret had been as
old as the bird, and if the bird's breasts had been as full as the
waitress's, it would have been a very good dinner."

-- Duncan Hines

To reply, replace "spaminator" with "cox"

"Quantass" > wrote in message
om...
> Hi there,
>
> I have been aweful with my teeth when i was younger by being stupid
> enough to eat large amounts of carbs and brush my teeth once a day ...
> that silly 1 year stunt has left me with several areas of
> decalcification (mostly around the gumline of the teeth). So because
> of these decal'ed (as seen by white lines on my teeth) cavities (the
> black dots that grow over time) start appearing over the years despite
> my obsessive regimen of brushing within 20mins after eating each day
> and flosing each time (so on avg i brush and floss 3x a day). And i
> also use mouth wash jsut before brushing. I also use a scalar once a
> month to scrape off any plaque. But yet cavities STILL keep
> appearing.
>
> My only hope is to buy some really effective fluroide mix (not the
> lame-ass amounts in toothpaste or in water) that will produce a more
> effective guard on my teeth, and hopefully restore them to a better
> health over time.
>
> Is there a fluroide rinse, or ideally some kind of solid mix i can
> pack betweeen my teeth (like at the dentist office) each morning to
> help my teeth out? I want ot be able to purchase this online or
> through some black market if i have to.
>
> I've asked my dentist but the prices are insane...Online, i am hoping
> to find a cheaper deal for the same effectiveness.
>
> Thanks
=====================

Your dentist should be able to provide you with a small (economically
priced) bottle of floride gel. Mine gave me some a number of years ago.

Cyndi

Terry Pulliam Burd wrote:
>
> On 3 Nov 2004 07:15:51 -0800, "Zywicki" > wrote:
>
> >Johnson and Johnson make ACT mouthwash, a fluoride rinse. It is sold
> >in the US, and can be ordered online.
>
> Second that. My dentist recommended the very brand.

If the person's dentist didn't know that, they need a new dentist.

nancy

"Nancy Young" > wrote in message
...
> Terry Pulliam Burd wrote:
>>
>> On 3 Nov 2004 07:15:51 -0800, "Zywicki" > wrote:
>>
>> >Johnson and Johnson make ACT mouthwash, a fluoride rinse. It is sold
>> >in the US, and can be ordered online.
>>
>> Second that. My dentist recommended the very brand.
>
> If the person's dentist didn't know that, they need a new dentist.

And don't you think that fluoride mouth wash, even if expensive, is a heck
of a lot cheaper than fillings? I've used the stuff, I didn't think it was
THAT expensive, especially if you use the higher concentration that only
needs to be used once a week. A bottle lasts for a few months.

Gabby

"Nancy Young" > wrote in message
...
> Terry Pulliam Burd wrote:
>>
>> On 3 Nov 2004 07:15:51 -0800, "Zywicki" > wrote:
>>
>> >Johnson and Johnson make ACT mouthwash, a fluoride rinse. It is sold
>> >in the US, and can be ordered online.
>>
>> Second that. My dentist recommended the very brand.
>
> If the person's dentist didn't know that, they need a new dentist.

And don't you think that fluoride mouth wash, even if expensive, is a heck
of a lot cheaper than fillings? I've used the stuff, I didn't think it was
THAT expensive, especially if you use the higher concentration that only
needs to be used once a week. A bottle lasts for a few months.

Gabby

Gabby wrote:
>
> "Nancy Young" > wrote in message
> ...

> >> On 3 Nov 2004 07:15:51 -0800, "Zywicki" > wrote:
> >>
> >> >Johnson and Johnson make ACT mouthwash, a fluoride rinse. It is sold
> >> >in the US, and can be ordered online.

> > If the person's dentist didn't know that, they need a new dentist.
>
> And don't you think that fluoride mouth wash, even if expensive, is a heck
> of a lot cheaper than fillings? I've used the stuff, I didn't think it was
> THAT expensive, especially if you use the higher concentration that only
> needs to be used once a week. A bottle lasts for a few months.

Exactly! You think that's expensive, just wait till they start
yanking your teeth. Then replacing them. Expensive will have a
whole new meaning.

nancy

Gabby wrote:
>
> "Nancy Young" > wrote in message
> ...

> >> On 3 Nov 2004 07:15:51 -0800, "Zywicki" > wrote:
> >>
> >> >Johnson and Johnson make ACT mouthwash, a fluoride rinse. It is sold
> >> >in the US, and can be ordered online.

> > If the person's dentist didn't know that, they need a new dentist.
>
> And don't you think that fluoride mouth wash, even if expensive, is a heck
> of a lot cheaper than fillings? I've used the stuff, I didn't think it was
> THAT expensive, especially if you use the higher concentration that only
> needs to be used once a week. A bottle lasts for a few months.

Exactly! You think that's expensive, just wait till they start
yanking your teeth. Then replacing them. Expensive will have a
whole new meaning.

nancy

On Thu, 04 Nov 2004 18:03:02 -0500, Nancy Young >
wrote:

>Terry Pulliam Burd wrote:
>>
>> On 3 Nov 2004 07:15:51 -0800, "Zywicki" > wrote:
>>
>> >Johnson and Johnson make ACT mouthwash, a fluoride rinse. It is sold
>> >in the US, and can be ordered online.
>>
>> Second that. My dentist recommended the very brand.
>
>If the person's dentist didn't know that, they need a new dentist.

What my dentist told me is that, as one grows older <sigh>, one's gums
recede, leaving the newly "revealed" tooth bits vulnerable. Sooo, I
slosh Listerine and ACT every day (Listerine, I'm told, kills almost
all of the germs in one's mouth for the day). Jeez, I don't recall
worrying about cr*p like this 15 years ago...!

Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd
AAC(F)BV66.0748.CA


"If the soup had been as hot as the claret, if the claret had been as
old as the bird, and if the bird's breasts had been as full as the
waitress's, it would have been a very good dinner."

-- Duncan Hines

To reply, replace "spaminator" with "cox"

On Thu, 04 Nov 2004 18:03:02 -0500, Nancy Young >
wrote:

>Terry Pulliam Burd wrote:
>>
>> On 3 Nov 2004 07:15:51 -0800, "Zywicki" > wrote:
>>
>> >Johnson and Johnson make ACT mouthwash, a fluoride rinse. It is sold
>> >in the US, and can be ordered online.
>>
>> Second that. My dentist recommended the very brand.
>
>If the person's dentist didn't know that, they need a new dentist.

What my dentist told me is that, as one grows older <sigh>, one's gums
recede, leaving the newly "revealed" tooth bits vulnerable. Sooo, I
slosh Listerine and ACT every day (Listerine, I'm told, kills almost
all of the germs in one's mouth for the day). Jeez, I don't recall
worrying about cr*p like this 15 years ago...!

Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd
AAC(F)BV66.0748.CA


"If the soup had been as hot as the claret, if the claret had been as
old as the bird, and if the bird's breasts had been as full as the
waitress's, it would have been a very good dinner."

-- Duncan Hines

To reply, replace "spaminator" with "cox"

Terry Pulliam Burd wrote:

> On Thu, 04 Nov 2004 18:03:02 -0500, Nancy Young >
> wrote:
>
>
>>Terry Pulliam Burd wrote:
>>
>>>On 3 Nov 2004 07:15:51 -0800, "Zywicki" > wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Johnson and Johnson make ACT mouthwash, a fluoride rinse. It is sold
>>>>in the US, and can be ordered online.
>>>
>>>Second that. My dentist recommended the very brand.
>>
>>If the person's dentist didn't know that, they need a new dentist.
>
>
> What my dentist told me is that, as one grows older <sigh>, one's gums
> recede, leaving the newly "revealed" tooth bits vulnerable. Sooo, I
> slosh Listerine and ACT every day (Listerine, I'm told, kills almost
> all of the germs in one's mouth for the day). Jeez, I don't recall
> worrying about cr*p like this 15 years ago...!
>
> Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd
> AAC(F)BV66.0748.CA
>
>
> "If the soup had been as hot as the claret, if the claret had been as
> old as the bird, and if the bird's breasts had been as full as the
> waitress's, it would have been a very good dinner."
>
> -- Duncan Hines
>
> To reply, replace "spaminator" with "cox"

In order for all the germs in your mouth to be killed, you'd have to
rinse with very strong acid, a process I do not recommend because it can
result in death--not to mention severe disfigurement of your oral cavity.

It's a fad. Listerine may kill some germs, but believe me, the bulk
remains in your mouth, especially in the crevices between your teeth, et
cetera.

Listerine is nothing more that one of the many legends which have been
propagated by our media.

Rich

--
"Dum Spiro, Spero."

As long as I breath, I hope.

Cicero (Ancient Rome)





ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸¸,ø¤° `°¤ø,¸¸,ø¤°`°¤ø
><((((º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·.¸. ><((((º> ·´¯`·. , .·´¯`·.. ><((((º>

Let there be fish!!!

Terry Pulliam Burd wrote:

> On Thu, 04 Nov 2004 18:03:02 -0500, Nancy Young >
> wrote:
>
>
>>Terry Pulliam Burd wrote:
>>
>>>On 3 Nov 2004 07:15:51 -0800, "Zywicki" > wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Johnson and Johnson make ACT mouthwash, a fluoride rinse. It is sold
>>>>in the US, and can be ordered online.
>>>
>>>Second that. My dentist recommended the very brand.
>>
>>If the person's dentist didn't know that, they need a new dentist.
>
>
> What my dentist told me is that, as one grows older <sigh>, one's gums
> recede, leaving the newly "revealed" tooth bits vulnerable. Sooo, I
> slosh Listerine and ACT every day (Listerine, I'm told, kills almost
> all of the germs in one's mouth for the day). Jeez, I don't recall
> worrying about cr*p like this 15 years ago...!
>
> Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd
> AAC(F)BV66.0748.CA
>
>
> "If the soup had been as hot as the claret, if the claret had been as
> old as the bird, and if the bird's breasts had been as full as the
> waitress's, it would have been a very good dinner."
>
> -- Duncan Hines
>
> To reply, replace "spaminator" with "cox"

In order for all the germs in your mouth to be killed, you'd have to
rinse with very strong acid, a process I do not recommend because it can
result in death--not to mention severe disfigurement of your oral cavity.

It's a fad. Listerine may kill some germs, but believe me, the bulk
remains in your mouth, especially in the crevices between your teeth, et
cetera.

Listerine is nothing more that one of the many legends which have been
propagated by our media.

Rich

--
"Dum Spiro, Spero."

As long as I breath, I hope.

Cicero (Ancient Rome)





ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸¸,ø¤° `°¤ø,¸¸,ø¤°`°¤ø
><((((º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·.¸. ><((((º> ·´¯`·. , .·´¯`·.. ><((((º>

Let there be fish!!!

"Richard Periut" > wrote in message
...
> Terry Pulliam Burd wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 04 Nov 2004 18:03:02 -0500, Nancy Young >
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Terry Pulliam Burd wrote:
>> What my dentist told me is that, as one grows older <sigh>, one's gums
>> recede, leaving the newly "revealed" tooth bits vulnerable. Sooo, I
>> slosh Listerine and ACT every day (Listerine, I'm told, kills almost
>> all of the germs in one's mouth for the day). Jeez, I don't recall
>> worrying about cr*p like this 15 years ago...!

> In order for all the germs in your mouth to be killed, you'd have to rinse
> with very strong acid, a process I do not recommend because it can result
> in death--not to mention severe disfigurement of your oral cavity.
>
> It's a fad. Listerine may kill some germs, but believe me, the bulk
> remains in your mouth, especially in the crevices between your teeth, et
> cetera.
>
> Listerine is nothing more that one of the many legends which have been
> propagated by our media.
>

Not according to the ADA

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp...nguage=printer

"Richard Periut" > wrote in message
...
> Terry Pulliam Burd wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 04 Nov 2004 18:03:02 -0500, Nancy Young >
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Terry Pulliam Burd wrote:
>> What my dentist told me is that, as one grows older <sigh>, one's gums
>> recede, leaving the newly "revealed" tooth bits vulnerable. Sooo, I
>> slosh Listerine and ACT every day (Listerine, I'm told, kills almost
>> all of the germs in one's mouth for the day). Jeez, I don't recall
>> worrying about cr*p like this 15 years ago...!

> In order for all the germs in your mouth to be killed, you'd have to rinse
> with very strong acid, a process I do not recommend because it can result
> in death--not to mention severe disfigurement of your oral cavity.
>
> It's a fad. Listerine may kill some germs, but believe me, the bulk
> remains in your mouth, especially in the crevices between your teeth, et
> cetera.
>
> Listerine is nothing more that one of the many legends which have been
> propagated by our media.
>

Not according to the ADA

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp...nguage=printer

Gabby wrote:

> "Richard Periut" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>Terry Pulliam Burd wrote:
>>
>>
>>>On Thu, 04 Nov 2004 18:03:02 -0500, Nancy Young >
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Terry Pulliam Burd wrote:
>>>
>>>What my dentist told me is that, as one grows older <sigh>, one's gums
>>>recede, leaving the newly "revealed" tooth bits vulnerable. Sooo, I
>>>slosh Listerine and ACT every day (Listerine, I'm told, kills almost
>>>all of the germs in one's mouth for the day). Jeez, I don't recall
>>>worrying about cr*p like this 15 years ago...!
>
>
>>In order for all the germs in your mouth to be killed, you'd have to rinse
>>with very strong acid, a process I do not recommend because it can result
>>in death--not to mention severe disfigurement of your oral cavity.
>>
>>It's a fad. Listerine may kill some germs, but believe me, the bulk
>>remains in your mouth, especially in the crevices between your teeth, et
>>cetera.
>>
>>Listerine is nothing more that one of the many legends which have been
>>propagated by our media.
>>
>
>
> Not according to the ADA
>
> http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp...nguage=printer
>
>

All it states is that it "helps" reduce gum disease. It does not state
that it kills most bacteria in your mouth; that's their pitch they want
you to believe.

Also, you fell for the oldest trick in the book, a pharmaceutical
company designing and funding a study which glorifies its product.

Believe me, studying medical publications on a weekly basis, has allowed
me to recognize BS when it is published.

Rich

--
"Dum Spiro, Spero."

As long as I breath, I hope.

Cicero (Ancient Rome)





ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸¸,ø¤° `°¤ø,¸¸,ø¤°`°¤ø
><((((º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·.¸. ><((((º> ·´¯`·. , .·´¯`·.. ><((((º>

Let there be fish!!!

Gabby wrote:

> "Richard Periut" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>Terry Pulliam Burd wrote:
>>
>>
>>>On Thu, 04 Nov 2004 18:03:02 -0500, Nancy Young >
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Terry Pulliam Burd wrote:
>>>
>>>What my dentist told me is that, as one grows older <sigh>, one's gums
>>>recede, leaving the newly "revealed" tooth bits vulnerable. Sooo, I
>>>slosh Listerine and ACT every day (Listerine, I'm told, kills almost
>>>all of the germs in one's mouth for the day). Jeez, I don't recall
>>>worrying about cr*p like this 15 years ago...!
>
>
>>In order for all the germs in your mouth to be killed, you'd have to rinse
>>with very strong acid, a process I do not recommend because it can result
>>in death--not to mention severe disfigurement of your oral cavity.
>>
>>It's a fad. Listerine may kill some germs, but believe me, the bulk
>>remains in your mouth, especially in the crevices between your teeth, et
>>cetera.
>>
>>Listerine is nothing more that one of the many legends which have been
>>propagated by our media.
>>
>
>
> Not according to the ADA
>
> http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp...nguage=printer
>
>

All it states is that it "helps" reduce gum disease. It does not state
that it kills most bacteria in your mouth; that's their pitch they want
you to believe.

Also, you fell for the oldest trick in the book, a pharmaceutical
company designing and funding a study which glorifies its product.

Believe me, studying medical publications on a weekly basis, has allowed
me to recognize BS when it is published.

Rich

--
"Dum Spiro, Spero."

As long as I breath, I hope.

Cicero (Ancient Rome)





ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸¸,ø¤° `°¤ø,¸¸,ø¤°`°¤ø
><((((º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·.¸. ><((((º> ·´¯`·. , .·´¯`·.. ><((((º>

Let there be fish!!!

Gabby wrote:

> "Richard Periut" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>Terry Pulliam Burd wrote:
>>
>>
>>>On Thu, 04 Nov 2004 18:03:02 -0500, Nancy Young >
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Terry Pulliam Burd wrote:
>>>
>>>What my dentist told me is that, as one grows older <sigh>, one's gums
>>>recede, leaving the newly "revealed" tooth bits vulnerable. Sooo, I
>>>slosh Listerine and ACT every day (Listerine, I'm told, kills almost
>>>all of the germs in one's mouth for the day). Jeez, I don't recall
>>>worrying about cr*p like this 15 years ago...!
>
>
>>In order for all the germs in your mouth to be killed, you'd have to rinse
>>with very strong acid, a process I do not recommend because it can result
>>in death--not to mention severe disfigurement of your oral cavity.
>>
>>It's a fad. Listerine may kill some germs, but believe me, the bulk
>>remains in your mouth, especially in the crevices between your teeth, et
>>cetera.
>>
>>Listerine is nothing more that one of the many legends which have been
>>propagated by our media.
>>
>
>
> Not according to the ADA
>
> http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp...nguage=printer
>
>
Also, note how vague these answers from Pfizer a


http://www.listerine.com/questions/index.html

--
"Dum Spiro, Spero."

As long as I breath, I hope.

Cicero (Ancient Rome)





ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸¸,ø¤° `°¤ø,¸¸,ø¤°`°¤ø
><((((º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·.¸. ><((((º> ·´¯`·. , .·´¯`·.. ><((((º>

Let there be fish!!!

Gabby wrote:

> "Richard Periut" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>Terry Pulliam Burd wrote:
>>
>>
>>>On Thu, 04 Nov 2004 18:03:02 -0500, Nancy Young >
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Terry Pulliam Burd wrote:
>>>
>>>What my dentist told me is that, as one grows older <sigh>, one's gums
>>>recede, leaving the newly "revealed" tooth bits vulnerable. Sooo, I
>>>slosh Listerine and ACT every day (Listerine, I'm told, kills almost
>>>all of the germs in one's mouth for the day). Jeez, I don't recall
>>>worrying about cr*p like this 15 years ago...!
>
>
>>In order for all the germs in your mouth to be killed, you'd have to rinse
>>with very strong acid, a process I do not recommend because it can result
>>in death--not to mention severe disfigurement of your oral cavity.
>>
>>It's a fad. Listerine may kill some germs, but believe me, the bulk
>>remains in your mouth, especially in the crevices between your teeth, et
>>cetera.
>>
>>Listerine is nothing more that one of the many legends which have been
>>propagated by our media.
>>
>
>
> Not according to the ADA
>
> http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp...nguage=printer
>
>
Also, note how vague these answers from Pfizer a


http://www.listerine.com/questions/index.html

--
"Dum Spiro, Spero."

As long as I breath, I hope.

Cicero (Ancient Rome)





ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸¸,ø¤° `°¤ø,¸¸,ø¤°`°¤ø
><((((º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·.¸. ><((((º> ·´¯`·. , .·´¯`·.. ><((((º>

Let there be fish!!!

Richard Periut wrote:

>
> All it states is that it "helps" reduce gum disease. It does not state
> that it kills most bacteria in your mouth; that's their pitch they want
> you to believe.

Most dental hygiene products suggest that you use them as part of an dental
hygiene program of frequent brushing, flossing and mouthwash.

Richard Periut wrote:

>
> All it states is that it "helps" reduce gum disease. It does not state
> that it kills most bacteria in your mouth; that's their pitch they want
> you to believe.

Most dental hygiene products suggest that you use them as part of an dental
hygiene program of frequent brushing, flossing and mouthwash.

Dave Smith wrote:
> Richard Periut wrote:
>
>
>>All it states is that it "helps" reduce gum disease. It does not state
>>that it kills most bacteria in your mouth; that's their pitch they want
>>you to believe.
>
>
> Most dental hygiene products suggest that you use them as part of an dental
> hygiene program of frequent brushing, flossing and mouthwash.
>
>
Yes, but that's not the same as "killing" all the germs in your mouth;
not the truth. A pitch to get people to buy their product. Effective
washing and flossing are superior. How can Listerine remove food
particles stuck between your teeth? Ask yourself.

Rich

--
"Dum Spiro, Spero."

As long as I breath, I hope.

Cicero (Ancient Rome)





ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸¸,ø¤° `°¤ø,¸¸,ø¤°`°¤ø
><((((º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·.¸. ><((((º> ·´¯`·. , .·´¯`·.. ><((((º>

Let there be fish!!!

Dave Smith wrote:
> Richard Periut wrote:
>
>
>>All it states is that it "helps" reduce gum disease. It does not state
>>that it kills most bacteria in your mouth; that's their pitch they want
>>you to believe.
>
>
> Most dental hygiene products suggest that you use them as part of an dental
> hygiene program of frequent brushing, flossing and mouthwash.
>
>
Yes, but that's not the same as "killing" all the germs in your mouth;
not the truth. A pitch to get people to buy their product. Effective
washing and flossing are superior. How can Listerine remove food
particles stuck between your teeth? Ask yourself.

Rich

--
"Dum Spiro, Spero."

As long as I breath, I hope.

Cicero (Ancient Rome)





ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸¸,ø¤° `°¤ø,¸¸,ø¤°`°¤ø
><((((º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·.¸. ><((((º> ·´¯`·. , .·´¯`·.. ><((((º>

Let there be fish!!!

"Dave Smith" > wrote in message
...
> Richard Periut wrote:
>
>>
>> All it states is that it "helps" reduce gum disease. It does not state
>> that it kills most bacteria in your mouth; that's their pitch they want
>> you to believe.
>
> Most dental hygiene products suggest that you use them as part of an
> dental
> hygiene program of frequent brushing, flossing and mouthwash.
>
They don't suggest 'frequent' brushing -- only twice daily. Brushing more
often is damaging to the enamel and the gums, especially when most people
brush too vigorously. They actually promote the use of mouth rinse as an
alternative to brushing at other times.

Gabby

"Dave Smith" > wrote in message
...
> Richard Periut wrote:
>
>>
>> All it states is that it "helps" reduce gum disease. It does not state
>> that it kills most bacteria in your mouth; that's their pitch they want
>> you to believe.
>
> Most dental hygiene products suggest that you use them as part of an
> dental
> hygiene program of frequent brushing, flossing and mouthwash.
>
They don't suggest 'frequent' brushing -- only twice daily. Brushing more
often is damaging to the enamel and the gums, especially when most people
brush too vigorously. They actually promote the use of mouth rinse as an
alternative to brushing at other times.

Gabby

>"Gabby" writes:
>
>"Dave Smith" wrote:
>> Richard Periut wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> All it states is that it "helps" reduce gum disease. It does not state
>>> that it kills most bacteria in your mouth; that's their pitch they want
>>> you to believe.
>>
>> Most dental hygiene products suggest that you use them as part of an
>> dental
>> hygiene program of frequent brushing, flossing and mouthwash.
>>
>They don't suggest 'frequent' brushing -- only twice daily. Brushing more
>often is damaging to the enamel and the gums, especially when most people
>brush too vigorously. They actually promote the use of mouth rinse as an
>alternative to brushing at other times.

Actually the ADA advocates brushing and flossing after eating. Other than
freshening breath, very temporarilly, OTC mouth washes essentially do
nothing... and used indescriminately some mouth washes are actually harmful...
rinsing and gargling with plain old salt water is far better for promoting good
oral hygiene, and a heck of a lot less money.


---= BOYCOTT FRANCE (belgium) GERMANY--SPAIN =---
---= Move UNITED NATIONS To Paris =---
*********
"Life would be devoid of all meaning were it without tribulation."
Sheldon
````````````

>"Gabby" writes:
>
>"Dave Smith" wrote:
>> Richard Periut wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> All it states is that it "helps" reduce gum disease. It does not state
>>> that it kills most bacteria in your mouth; that's their pitch they want
>>> you to believe.
>>
>> Most dental hygiene products suggest that you use them as part of an
>> dental
>> hygiene program of frequent brushing, flossing and mouthwash.
>>
>They don't suggest 'frequent' brushing -- only twice daily. Brushing more
>often is damaging to the enamel and the gums, especially when most people
>brush too vigorously. They actually promote the use of mouth rinse as an
>alternative to brushing at other times.

Actually the ADA advocates brushing and flossing after eating. Other than
freshening breath, very temporarilly, OTC mouth washes essentially do
nothing... and used indescriminately some mouth washes are actually harmful...
rinsing and gargling with plain old salt water is far better for promoting good
oral hygiene, and a heck of a lot less money.


---= BOYCOTT FRANCE (belgium) GERMANY--SPAIN =---
---= Move UNITED NATIONS To Paris =---
*********
"Life would be devoid of all meaning were it without tribulation."
Sheldon
````````````

PENMART01 wrote:

> Actually the ADA advocates brushing and flossing after eating. Other than
> freshening breath, very temporarilly, OTC mouth washes essentially do
> nothing... and used indescriminately some mouth washes are actually
harmful...
> rinsing and gargling with plain old salt water is far better for promoting
good
> oral hygiene, and a heck of a lot less money.


And notice what a big component of those OTC mouthwashes is - SUGAR.
Bacteria love sugar, it's their preferred fodder, they thrive on it...

Those mouthwashes are quite the racket, I'd sure like to have a chunk of
that action....

I use a weak hydrogen peroxide/water solution for mouthwash...it's cheap and
effective...

And if you want a really effective tooth cleaner, brush yer teeth with a
combo of salt and baking soda...just like folks or yore did...it really
scours the old piehole out.

--
Best
Greg

PENMART01 wrote:

> Actually the ADA advocates brushing and flossing after eating. Other than
> freshening breath, very temporarilly, OTC mouth washes essentially do
> nothing... and used indescriminately some mouth washes are actually
harmful...
> rinsing and gargling with plain old salt water is far better for promoting
good
> oral hygiene, and a heck of a lot less money.


And notice what a big component of those OTC mouthwashes is - SUGAR.
Bacteria love sugar, it's their preferred fodder, they thrive on it...

Those mouthwashes are quite the racket, I'd sure like to have a chunk of
that action....

I use a weak hydrogen peroxide/water solution for mouthwash...it's cheap and
effective...

And if you want a really effective tooth cleaner, brush yer teeth with a
combo of salt and baking soda...just like folks or yore did...it really
scours the old piehole out.

--
Best
Greg

Terry Pulliam Burd > wrote in message >. ..
> On 3 Nov 2004 07:15:51 -0800, "Zywicki" > wrote:
>
> >Johnson and Johnson make ACT mouthwash, a fluoride rinse. It is sold
> >in the US, and can be ordered online.
>
> Second that. My dentist recommended the very brand.
>
> Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd
> AAC(F)BV66.0748.CA


Colgate makes a high fluoride toothpaste that is prescription only in
the US. My kid had to use it for a while.

Sandi

"Rick & Cyndi" > wrote in message news:<hcxid.223$mg1.138@trnddc02>...
> "Quantass" > wrote in message
> om...
> > Hi there,
> >
> > I have been aweful with my teeth when i was younger by being stupid
> > enough to eat large amounts of carbs and brush my teeth once a day ...
> > that silly 1 year stunt has left me with several areas of
> > decalcification (mostly around the gumline of the teeth). So because
> > of these decal'ed (as seen by white lines on my teeth) cavities (the
> > black dots that grow over time) start appearing over the years despite
> > my obsessive regimen of brushing within 20mins after eating each day
> > and flosing each time (so on avg i brush and floss 3x a day). And i
> > also use mouth wash jsut before brushing. I also use a scalar once a
> > month to scrape off any plaque. But yet cavities STILL keep
> > appearing.
> >
> > My only hope is to buy some really effective fluroide mix (not the
> > lame-ass amounts in toothpaste or in water) that will produce a more
> > effective guard on my teeth, and hopefully restore them to a better
> > health over time.
> >
> > Is there a fluroide rinse, or ideally some kind of solid mix i can
> > pack betweeen my teeth (like at the dentist office) each morning to
> > help my teeth out? I want ot be able to purchase this online or
> > through some black market if i have to.
> >
> > I've asked my dentist but the prices are insane...Online, i am hoping
> > to find a cheaper deal for the same effectiveness.
> >
> > Thanks
> =====================
>
> Your dentist should be able to provide you with a small (economically
> priced) bottle of floride gel. Mine gave me some a number of years ago.
>
> Cyndi

My duaghter had that....and when she finished that bottle, her regular
toothpaste was switched to a Colgate high fluoride toothpaste that was
prescription only. Too much soda - at school. The following year the
kids voted out the soda machine and had it replaced with a machine for
water and gatorade.

Sandi

"Rick & Cyndi" > wrote in message news:<hcxid.223$mg1.138@trnddc02>...
> "Quantass" > wrote in message
> om...
> > Hi there,
> >
> > I have been aweful with my teeth when i was younger by being stupid
> > enough to eat large amounts of carbs and brush my teeth once a day ...
> > that silly 1 year stunt has left me with several areas of
> > decalcification (mostly around the gumline of the teeth). So because
> > of these decal'ed (as seen by white lines on my teeth) cavities (the
> > black dots that grow over time) start appearing over the years despite
> > my obsessive regimen of brushing within 20mins after eating each day
> > and flosing each time (so on avg i brush and floss 3x a day). And i
> > also use mouth wash jsut before brushing. I also use a scalar once a
> > month to scrape off any plaque. But yet cavities STILL keep
> > appearing.
> >
> > My only hope is to buy some really effective fluroide mix (not the
> > lame-ass amounts in toothpaste or in water) that will produce a more
> > effective guard on my teeth, and hopefully restore them to a better
> > health over time.
> >
> > Is there a fluroide rinse, or ideally some kind of solid mix i can
> > pack betweeen my teeth (like at the dentist office) each morning to
> > help my teeth out? I want ot be able to purchase this online or
> > through some black market if i have to.
> >
> > I've asked my dentist but the prices are insane...Online, i am hoping
> > to find a cheaper deal for the same effectiveness.
> >
> > Thanks
> =====================
>
> Your dentist should be able to provide you with a small (economically
> priced) bottle of floride gel. Mine gave me some a number of years ago.
>
> Cyndi

My duaghter had that....and when she finished that bottle, her regular
toothpaste was switched to a Colgate high fluoride toothpaste that was
prescription only. Too much soda - at school. The following year the
kids voted out the soda machine and had it replaced with a machine for
water and gatorade.

Sandi