I am asking because I sometimes do surveys online for money. And while I
can't speak specifically of the items that the surveys are about, they are
sometimes products that are already on the market but sometimes new items.

The one I got tonight was not one that I qualified for. But they mentioned
products like granola bars and Hamburger Helper and wanted to know if I had
purchased them in the past 6 months. The only thing I could answer "yes" to
was salty snacks. The other things were all prepared foods that we do not
eat or use.

The thing I think is odd is that they seem to be looking for a target market
that is not me. Somebody who wants to open a jar and have an instant sauce
or pre-seasoned bread crumbs or flavored cheese or something like that. In
other words, something that will make our cooking easier.

And while I do buy jarred pasta sauce and other convenience foods, I would
not call that cooking! If I make nachos, is that cooking? Seems to me it
is mostly assembling things on some chips and baking or nuking them. Yes, I
might cut things up. And if I add meat, I would probably cook it. I could
get pre-cooked, seasoned ground beef in CA. I've never seen it there and if
I did use it there, it wasn't often.

I made soup last night but was that really cooking? Yes I browned the
ground beef. I cut up some veggies but I also used canned veggies and juice
and frozen spinach. I did make the dumplings from scratch. So I guess
there was some cooking involved.

If I made that gaggy "Suddenly Salad", is that cooking? I only made the
stuff once. Never again. I think you just boiled the pasta and then mixed
it up with the dehydrated stuff that came in the box, maybe adding hot water
or oil or something. But the end result wasn't edible to me so I never
bought it again.

In my mind, anyone can make dinner. And I often do. Buy a few pre-made
things and throw them together. Tonight my daughter is having Amy's shells
and cheese (which she doesn't really like) but she seems to like them more
than the soup I made last night. She didn't want to eat it again which is
fine by me because I really like it! So I boiled the little whole wheat
shells, drained them, added the pre-made cheese sauce and mixed it through.
Also gave her some black olives and green beans straight from the can
(because she loves them that way). And then she can have some fruit and
that will be dinner. But I don't think I cooked it!

So... What do you call cooking? Is what Sandra Lee does cooking? Is her
show even still on? Haven't seen it for a long time, not that I really
liked watching it. Because I didn't.

In article >, "Julie Bove" >
wrote:

> The thing I think is odd is that they seem to be looking for a target market
> that is not me.

strangely enough, that being the reason you are involved in filling surveys: so
they can find out why people like you don't buy their products


Somebody who wants to open a jar and have an instant sauce
> or pre-seasoned bread crumbs or flavored cheese or something like that. In
> other words, something that will make our cooking easier.

On Thu, 20 Dec 2012 20:02:08 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>I am asking because I sometimes do surveys online for money. And while I
>can't speak specifically of the items that the surveys are about, they are
>sometimes products that are already on the market but sometimes new items.
>

Send me $1000 and I'll reply to your answer.

"Julie Bove" > wrote in message
...

> So... What do you call cooking? Is what Sandra Lee does cooking? Is her
> show even still on? Haven't seen it for a long time, not that I really
> liked watching it. Because I didn't.

I can't comment on Sandra Lee because I don't know what she does, but I cook
just about everything from scratch. I don't buy ready cooked food or
instant 'anything' I make all our bread, I prepare fresh veggies and meat;
although how would you rate ready made sausages? I saw seasoned breadcrumbs
mentioned in another post. I dry left over bread in my dehydrator and crush
those ... I make basic stuff like that. If I can help, feel free to ask
questions and I will try to answer

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On 12/20/2012 11:02 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
> I am asking because I sometimes do surveys online for money. And while I
> can't speak specifically of the items that the surveys are about, they are
> sometimes products that are already on the market but sometimes new items.
>
> The one I got tonight was not one that I qualified for. But they mentioned
> products like granola bars and Hamburger Helper and wanted to know if I had
> purchased them in the past 6 months. The only thing I could answer "yes" to
> was salty snacks. The other things were all prepared foods that we do not
> eat or use.
>
> The thing I think is odd is that they seem to be looking for a target market
> that is not me.
(snippage)

I participate in those market surveys, too. And you're right, they're
nearly always looking for a target group in which I don't fit. I do
sometimes get free products to test and when that's happened it's fun

As for "what is cooking"? Sure, I use some convenience foods. For
example, if I don't feel well and don't have soup made from scratch in
the freezer, I'll open a can. But adding a can of water or milk isn't
cooking.

Cooking, to me, is when I have to do prep work. Slicing, dicing,
chopping, browning, sauteeing, roasting, seasoning... even if I wind up
throwing it all in the crock pot for a few hours, I had to *work*
towards the finished product and that's cooking. IMHO.

I think many of these surveys are geared towards younger people who
*don't* cook. Then again, it's market research and they're trying to
find out who buys their products. For the most part we don't, so that's
why we are screened out.

Jill

In article >,
"Julie Bove" > wrote:

> So... What do you call cooking? Is what Sandra Lee does cooking? Is her
> show even still on? Haven't seen it for a long time, not that I really
> liked watching it. Because I didn't.

I've seen a number of people buy a motherboard, RAM, case, and power
supply, plug them all together and proudly proclaim they 'built a
computer'. So I guess if you buy precooked pasta, heat it in the
microwave and squeeze a package of cheese sauce on it, then yes by
todays standards that is cooking.

Me? because of salt restrictions everything is made from scratch. And I
even once made a computer by plugging the chips into a breadboard and
wiring them all together. (based on the 8085 processor) (and I used to
get up every morning half an hour before I went to bed. Kids these days
just have it too easy)

On Friday, December 21, 2012 5:11:24 AM UTC-6, Ophelia wrote:
> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
>
> ...
>
>
>
> > So... What do you call cooking? Is what Sandra Lee does cooking? Is her
>
> > show even still on? Haven't seen it for a long time, not that I really
>
> > liked watching it. Because I didn't.
>
>
>
> I can't comment on Sandra Lee because I don't know what she does, but I cook
>
> just about everything from scratch. I don't buy ready cooked food or
>
> instant 'anything' I make all our bread, I prepare fresh veggies and meat;
>
> although how would you rate ready made sausages? I saw seasoned breadcrumbs
>
> mentioned in another post. I dry left over bread in my dehydrator and crush
>
> those ... I make basic stuff like that. If I can help, feel free to ask
>
> questions and I will try to answer
>
>
Food snob. From me, of course, that is high praise.

--Bryan

"Mark Storkamp" > wrote in message
...
> In article >,
> "Julie Bove" > wrote:
>
>> So... What do you call cooking? Is what Sandra Lee does cooking? Is
>> her
>> show even still on? Haven't seen it for a long time, not that I really
>> liked watching it. Because I didn't.
>
> I've seen a number of people buy a motherboard, RAM, case, and power
> supply, plug them all together and proudly proclaim they 'built a
> computer'. So I guess if you buy precooked pasta, heat it in the
> microwave and squeeze a package of cheese sauce on it, then yes by
> todays standards that is cooking.
>
> Me? because of salt restrictions everything is made from scratch. And I
> even once made a computer by plugging the chips into a breadboard and
> wiring them all together. (based on the 8085 processor) (and I used to
> get up every morning half an hour before I went to bed. Kids these days
> just have it too easy)

<g>

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Julie Bove wrote:
>
>What do you call cooking?

Cooking is preparing a dish by ones own abilities without a recipe.
Following a recipe is no more cooking than paint by numbers is art.

"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>> So... What do you call cooking? Is what Sandra Lee does cooking? Is
>> her show even still on? Haven't seen it for a long time, not that I
>> really liked watching it. Because I didn't.
>
> I can't comment on Sandra Lee because I don't know what she does, but I
> cook just about everything from scratch. I don't buy ready cooked food or
> instant 'anything' I make all our bread, I prepare fresh veggies and
> meat; although how would you rate ready made sausages? I saw seasoned
> breadcrumbs mentioned in another post. I dry left over bread in my
> dehydrator and crush those ... I make basic stuff like that. If I can
> help, feel free to ask questions and I will try to answer

I have never bought bread crumbs and really can't see why you would! We
often have leftover bread here, even if only a slice or two. I just chuck
it in the freezer to be used for stuffing or bread crumbs.

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 12/20/2012 11:02 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>> I am asking because I sometimes do surveys online for money. And while I
>> can't speak specifically of the items that the surveys are about, they
>> are
>> sometimes products that are already on the market but sometimes new
>> items.
>>
>> The one I got tonight was not one that I qualified for. But they
>> mentioned
>> products like granola bars and Hamburger Helper and wanted to know if I
>> had
>> purchased them in the past 6 months. The only thing I could answer "yes"
>> to
>> was salty snacks. The other things were all prepared foods that we do
>> not
>> eat or use.
>>
>> The thing I think is odd is that they seem to be looking for a target
>> market
>> that is not me.
> (snippage)
>
> I participate in those market surveys, too. And you're right, they're
> nearly always looking for a target group in which I don't fit. I do
> sometimes get free products to test and when that's happened it's fun
>
> As for "what is cooking"? Sure, I use some convenience foods. For
> example, if I don't feel well and don't have soup made from scratch in the
> freezer, I'll open a can. But adding a can of water or milk isn't
> cooking.
>
> Cooking, to me, is when I have to do prep work. Slicing, dicing,
> chopping, browning, sauteeing, roasting, seasoning... even if I wind up
> throwing it all in the crock pot for a few hours, I had to *work* towards
> the finished product and that's cooking. IMHO.
>
> I think many of these surveys are geared towards younger people who
> *don't* cook. Then again, it's market research and they're trying to find
> out who buys their products. For the most part we don't, so that's why we
> are screened out.
>
> Jill

Oh... That could be! My mom is the type who would buy such products. I
have mentioned the Hamburger Helper before which she loves. And she used
every kind of packet she could get her hands on when I was a kid. Taco
seasoning. Spaghetti sauce. Gravy mix. And perhaps those things are fine
in a pinch but if you never make stuff from scratch then you have no clue
how to do it.

I think this is akin to her and her phone. At their house they have those
programmable phones so that all you have to do is type in two digits to get
someone. Both she and my dad have the two digits memorized. And I had one
of those phones but quickly learned that it was no good for me! Again,
might be good if you were in a hurry to dial someone. But if you never
actually dial their number, you don't remember what it is. My dad wanted to
call me the other day but realized that he didn't know how to because he
didn't know my number. He is living in an adult family home now with no
phone of his own.

"Julie Bove" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>>
>> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>>> So... What do you call cooking? Is what Sandra Lee does cooking? Is
>>> her show even still on? Haven't seen it for a long time, not that I
>>> really liked watching it. Because I didn't.
>>
>> I can't comment on Sandra Lee because I don't know what she does, but I
>> cook just about everything from scratch. I don't buy ready cooked food
>> or instant 'anything' I make all our bread, I prepare fresh veggies and
>> meat; although how would you rate ready made sausages? I saw seasoned
>> breadcrumbs mentioned in another post. I dry left over bread in my
>> dehydrator and crush those ... I make basic stuff like that. If I can
>> help, feel free to ask questions and I will try to answer
>
> I have never bought bread crumbs and really can't see why you would!

I use dried breadcrumbs for coating chicken parts before I bake them. Think
Kentucky Fried Chicken etc. Our Eldest Granddaughter loves it and it is one
of the things she looks forward to when she visits

We
> often have leftover bread here, even if only a slice or two. I just chuck
> it in the freezer to be used for stuffing or bread crumbs.

Yes I do that too

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"Brooklyn1" <Gravesend1> wrote in message
...
> Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>>What do you call cooking?
>
> Cooking is preparing a dish by ones own abilities without a recipe.
> Following a recipe is no more cooking than paint by numbers is art.

I don't often follow recipes for cooking unless it is something complicated.
But for baking and some candy making I do. Those things are more finicky I
think. But there is plenty of candy I can make by rote just because I have
made it so often. I used to be able to do biscuits and dumplings by rote
too but since I haven't made them for many years, I have had to resort to
using a recipe.

On Fri, 21 Dec 2012 10:06:31 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

> But if you never
> actually dial their number, you don't remember what it is.

So true! I don't know anyone's telephone numbers anymore. The only
one I know is the home phone of someone I've know since the dark ages
and has lived in the same place for 35 years with the same phone
number. I tried to port our long time phone number over to my cell,
but we'd had the number for so long, being batted back and forth
between telephone companies - they lost track of who owned my number.
I don't think they've figured it out even after 5+ years because I
always get the "disconnected" message whenever I'm curious enough to
call it.

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

sf wrote:
> On Fri, 21 Dec 2012 10:06:31 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>> But if you never
>> actually dial their number, you don't remember what it is.
>
> So true! I don't know anyone's telephone numbers anymore. The only
> one I know is the home phone of someone I've know since the dark ages
> and has lived in the same place for 35 years with the same phone
> number. I tried to port our long time phone number over to my cell,
> but we'd had the number for so long, being batted back and forth
> between telephone companies - they lost track of who owned my number.
> I don't think they've figured it out even after 5+ years because I
> always get the "disconnected" message whenever I'm curious enough to
> call it.
>
I remember some of my friends' numbers from my youth. And I have
my parents number, which they got in the mid-1940s. In part, I
like having it, but some of my childhood friends also remember MY
number (without the preamble, of course).

"Jean B." > wrote in message
...
> sf wrote:
>> On Fri, 21 Dec 2012 10:06:31 -0800, "Julie Bove"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> But if you never actually dial their number, you don't remember what it
>>> is.
>>
>> So true! I don't know anyone's telephone numbers anymore. The only
>> one I know is the home phone of someone I've know since the dark ages
>> and has lived in the same place for 35 years with the same phone
>> number. I tried to port our long time phone number over to my cell,
>> but we'd had the number for so long, being batted back and forth
>> between telephone companies - they lost track of who owned my number.
>> I don't think they've figured it out even after 5+ years because I
>> always get the "disconnected" message whenever I'm curious enough to
>> call it.
>>
> I remember some of my friends' numbers from my youth. And I have my
> parents number, which they got in the mid-1940s. In part, I like having
> it, but some of my childhood friends also remember MY number (without the
> preamble, of course).

I remember the one I had in Wichita. Jackson 40303. But when I was little
I would say 403030. I didn't know when to stop.

On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 22:25:21 -0500, "Jean B." > wrote:

> sf wrote:
> > On Fri, 21 Dec 2012 10:06:31 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> > > wrote:
> >
> >> But if you never
> >> actually dial their number, you don't remember what it is.
> >
> > So true! I don't know anyone's telephone numbers anymore. The only
> > one I know is the home phone of someone I've know since the dark ages
> > and has lived in the same place for 35 years with the same phone
> > number. I tried to port our long time phone number over to my cell,
> > but we'd had the number for so long, being batted back and forth
> > between telephone companies - they lost track of who owned my number.
> > I don't think they've figured it out even after 5+ years because I
> > always get the "disconnected" message whenever I'm curious enough to
> > call it.
> >
> I remember some of my friends' numbers from my youth. And I have
> my parents number, which they got in the mid-1940s. In part, I
> like having it, but some of my childhood friends also remember MY
> number (without the preamble, of course).

Did they have a seven digit number or was it a two or three digit
number? My grandparents (who lived next door to us) were 24 and we
had 126.

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

Julie Bove wrote:
> "Jean B." > wrote in message
> ...
>> sf wrote:
>>> On Fri, 21 Dec 2012 10:06:31 -0800, "Julie Bove"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> But if you never actually dial their number, you don't remember what it
>>>> is.
>>> So true! I don't know anyone's telephone numbers anymore. The only
>>> one I know is the home phone of someone I've know since the dark ages
>>> and has lived in the same place for 35 years with the same phone
>>> number. I tried to port our long time phone number over to my cell,
>>> but we'd had the number for so long, being batted back and forth
>>> between telephone companies - they lost track of who owned my number.
>>> I don't think they've figured it out even after 5+ years because I
>>> always get the "disconnected" message whenever I'm curious enough to
>>> call it.
>>>
>> I remember some of my friends' numbers from my youth. And I have my
>> parents number, which they got in the mid-1940s. In part, I like having
>> it, but some of my childhood friends also remember MY number (without the
>> preamble, of course).
>
> I remember the one I had in Wichita. Jackson 40303. But when I was little
> I would say 403030. I didn't know when to stop.
>
>
Cute!

sf wrote:
> On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 22:25:21 -0500, "Jean B." > wrote:
>
>> sf wrote:
>>> On Fri, 21 Dec 2012 10:06:31 -0800, "Julie Bove"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> But if you never
>>>> actually dial their number, you don't remember what it is.
>>> So true! I don't know anyone's telephone numbers anymore. The only
>>> one I know is the home phone of someone I've know since the dark ages
>>> and has lived in the same place for 35 years with the same phone
>>> number. I tried to port our long time phone number over to my cell,
>>> but we'd had the number for so long, being batted back and forth
>>> between telephone companies - they lost track of who owned my number.
>>> I don't think they've figured it out even after 5+ years because I
>>> always get the "disconnected" message whenever I'm curious enough to
>>> call it.
>>>
>> I remember some of my friends' numbers from my youth. And I have
>> my parents number, which they got in the mid-1940s. In part, I
>> like having it, but some of my childhood friends also remember MY
>> number (without the preamble, of course).
>
> Did they have a seven digit number or was it a two or three digit
> number? My grandparents (who lived next door to us) were 24 and we
> had 126.
>
I only remember back to 7 digits (actually 3 letters and 4
digits). But you may be right. I am not sure WHEN they got the
number. Could have been mater than I though.

On Sunday, December 23, 2012 9:25:21 PM UTC-6, Jean B. wrote:
> sf wrote:
>
> > On Fri, 21 Dec 2012 10:06:31 -0800, "Julie Bove"
>
> > > wrote:
>
> >
>
> >> But if you never
>
> >> actually dial their number, you don't remember what it is.
>
> >
>
> > So true! I don't know anyone's telephone numbers anymore. The only
>
> > one I know is the home phone of someone I've know since the dark ages
>
> > and has lived in the same place for 35 years with the same phone
>
> > number. I tried to port our long time phone number over to my cell,
>
> > but we'd had the number for so long, being batted back and forth
>
> > between telephone companies - they lost track of who owned my number.
>
> > I don't think they've figured it out even after 5+ years because I
>
> > always get the "disconnected" message whenever I'm curious enough to
>
> > call it.
>
> >
>
> I remember some of my friends' numbers from my youth. And I have
>
> my parents number, which they got in the mid-1940s. In part, I
>
> like having it, but some of my childhood friends also remember MY
>
> number (without the preamble, of course).

When I was a kid, our number was VIctor 2-2584.

--Bryan

On Mon, 24 Dec 2012 21:43:11 -0800 (PST), Bryan
> wrote:

>On Sunday, December 23, 2012 9:25:21 PM UTC-6, Jean B. wrote:
>> sf wrote:
>>
>> > On Fri, 21 Dec 2012 10:06:31 -0800, "Julie Bove"
>>
>> > > wrote:
>>
>> >
>>
>> >> But if you never
>>
>> >> actually dial their number, you don't remember what it is.
>>
>> >
>>
>> > So true! I don't know anyone's telephone numbers anymore. The only
>>
>> > one I know is the home phone of someone I've know since the dark ages
>>
>> > and has lived in the same place for 35 years with the same phone
>>
>> > number. I tried to port our long time phone number over to my cell,
>>
>> > but we'd had the number for so long, being batted back and forth
>>
>> > between telephone companies - they lost track of who owned my number.
>>
>> > I don't think they've figured it out even after 5+ years because I
>>
>> > always get the "disconnected" message whenever I'm curious enough to
>>
>> > call it.
>>
>> >
>>
>> I remember some of my friends' numbers from my youth. And I have
>>
>> my parents number, which they got in the mid-1940s. In part, I
>>
>> like having it, but some of my childhood friends also remember MY
>>
>> number (without the preamble, of course).
>
>When I was a kid, our number was VIctor 2-2584.
>
>--Bryan

My parent's phone number was ESplanade 5-1892 from 1954 until my
father passed in 1995, and all that time they used the same rotary
phone. I still much prefer a rotary dial to a keypad... I very rarely
misdialed with a rotary, but I very often miskey with a keypad.