General Cooking (rec.food.cooking) For general food and cooking discussion. Foods of all kinds, food procurement, cooking methods and techniques, eating, etc.

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)   Report Post  
T
 
Posts: n/a
Default The fresh tomato crisis;

The cost of having a nice tomato & lettuce salad/sandwich,has gone
way up.






  #7 (permalink)   Report Post  
PENMART01
 
Posts: n/a
Default

>"kilikini" writes:
>
>>"SportKite1" wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > The cost of having a nice tomato & lettuce salad/sandwich,has gone
>> >way up.

>>
>> Perhaps the price of having a BLT has gone up, but having a NICE tomato is
>> nonexistent. They are the worse tasting pieces of drek I've seen in
>>years....at ANY price.

>
>I agree, they're orange instead of red and they're always hard. Good luck
>finding vine ripened these days.


Vine ripened is a myth... those I pick a couple of days early and allow to
ripen on the kitchen counter are actually as good or better than those picked
fully ripe, certainly better than 'drops', those that fully ripen and drop
off... they quite edible and very tasty but are then better suited for cooking,
for by the time they are fully vine ripened their texture suffers for slicing.

Even those sold "on-the-vine" ('bout 4-5 still attached to a vine) are lousy,
they are bright red and look perfect, perhaps too perfect (perhaps genetically
engineered)... but they are watery rather than juicy (slice one open and lots
of clear fluid gushes out), the flesh has a weird texture, gelatinous-chalky
(kinda like tofu), and they have no flavor whatsoever (again, like tofu). And
the "on-the-vine" tomatoes are kinda expensive ($3.99/lb), save your money.
When I can't have my own home growns or locally grown from farm stands I don't
eat tomatoes, other than canned. Stupidmarket tomatoes are strains specifcally
developed to withstand shipping/storage, not eating/enjoying. I've even seen
square tomatoes, cube shaped with flat sides, horticulturally engineered
nightmares so that more will fit into a crate, but flavorless and even more
cardboard-like than the typical stupidmarket specimens.

Anyone wants good tomatoes they really need to grow their own.


---= BOYCOTT FRANCE (belgium) GERMANY--SPAIN =---
---= Move UNITED NATIONS To Paris =---
*********
"Life would be devoid of all meaning were it without tribulation."
Sheldon
````````````
  #11 (permalink)   Report Post  
Kswck
 
Posts: n/a
Default


"PENMART01" > wrote in message
...
> >"kilikini" writes:
>>
>>>"SportKite1" wrote:
>>>
>>> >
>>> > The cost of having a nice tomato & lettuce salad/sandwich,has gone
>>> >way up.
>>>
>>> Perhaps the price of having a BLT has gone up, but having a NICE tomato
>>> is
>>> nonexistent. They are the worse tasting pieces of drek I've seen in
>>>years....at ANY price.

>>
>>I agree, they're orange instead of red and they're always hard. Good luck
>>finding vine ripened these days.

>
> Vine ripened is a myth... those I pick a couple of days early and allow to
> ripen on the kitchen counter are actually as good or better than those
> picked
> fully ripe, certainly better than 'drops', those that fully ripen and drop
> off... they quite edible and very tasty but are then better suited for
> cooking,
> for by the time they are fully vine ripened their texture suffers for
> slicing.
>
> Even those sold "on-the-vine" ('bout 4-5 still attached to a vine) are
> lousy,
> they are bright red and look perfect, perhaps too perfect (perhaps
> genetically
> engineered)... but they are watery rather than juicy (slice one open and
> lots
> of clear fluid gushes out), the flesh has a weird texture,
> gelatinous-chalky
> (kinda like tofu), and they have no flavor whatsoever (again, like tofu).
> And
> the "on-the-vine" tomatoes are kinda expensive ($3.99/lb), save your
> money.
> When I can't have my own home growns or locally grown from farm stands I
> don't
> eat tomatoes, other than canned. Stupidmarket tomatoes are strains
> specifcally
> developed to withstand shipping/storage, not eating/enjoying. I've even
> seen
> square tomatoes, cube shaped with flat sides, horticulturally engineered
> nightmares so that more will fit into a crate, but flavorless and even
> more
> cardboard-like than the typical stupidmarket specimens.
>
> Anyone wants good tomatoes they really need to grow their own.
>
>
> ---= BOYCOTT FRANCE (belgium) GERMANY--SPAIN =---
> ---= Move UNITED NATIONS To Paris =---
> *********
> "Life would be devoid of all meaning were it without tribulation."
> Sheldon
> ````````````


Agreed-but at this time of year-that is not practical.
Tomatoes have become Very expensive at the supermarket.


  #15 (permalink)   Report Post  
Ida Slapter
 
Posts: n/a
Default

On Wed, 3 Nov 2004 07:34:15 -0500, (T) wrote:

> The cost of having a nice tomato & lettuce salad/sandwich,has gone
>way up.


Funny how that happens to "out of season" produce.




  #17 (permalink)   Report Post  
T
 
Posts: n/a
Default

We grow quite a few tomatoes on our farm,mostly Celebrity,Viva
Italiana,Abe Lincoln hybrid and a few other varieties.It wasn't the best
season this year,but we canned 60 qts.We grow our tomatoes without the
use of chemical pesticides or weed killers.Big difference in fresh
picked garden tomatoes and store bought ones.






  #18 (permalink)   Report Post  
Wayne Boatwright
 
Posts: n/a
Default

"Kswck" > wrote in
t:

>
> "PENMART01" > wrote in message
> ...
>> >"kilikini" writes:
>>>
>>>>"SportKite1" wrote:
>>>>
>>>> >
>>>> > The cost of having a nice tomato & lettuce salad/sandwich,has
>>>> > gone way up.
>>>>
>>>> Perhaps the price of having a BLT has gone up, but having a NICE
>>>> tomato is nonexistent. They are the worse tasting pieces of drek
>>>> I've seen in years....at ANY price.
>>>
>>>I agree, they're orange instead of red and they're always hard. Good
>>>luck finding vine ripened these days.

>>
>> Vine ripened is a myth... those I pick a couple of days early and
>> allow to ripen on the kitchen counter are actually as good or better
>> than those picked fully ripe, certainly better than 'drops', those
>> that fully ripen and drop off... they quite edible and very tasty but
>> are then better suited for cooking, for by the time they are fully
>> vine ripened their texture suffers for slicing.
>>
>> Even those sold "on-the-vine" ('bout 4-5 still attached to a vine)
>> are lousy, they are bright red and look perfect, perhaps too perfect
>> (perhaps genetically engineered)... but they are watery rather than
>> juicy (slice one open and lots of clear fluid gushes out), the flesh
>> has a weird texture, gelatinous-chalky (kinda like tofu), and they
>> have no flavor whatsoever (again, like tofu). And
>> the "on-the-vine" tomatoes are kinda expensive ($3.99/lb), save your
>> money. When I can't have my own home growns or locally grown from
>> farm stands I don't eat tomatoes, other than canned. Stupidmarket
>> tomatoes are strains specifcally developed to withstand
>> shipping/storage, not eating/enjoying. I've even seen square
>> tomatoes, cube shaped with flat sides, horticulturally engineered
>> nightmares so that more will fit into a crate, but flavorless and
>> even more cardboard-like than the typical stupidmarket specimens.
>>
>> Anyone wants good tomatoes they really need to grow their own.
>>
>>
>> ---= BOYCOTT FRANCE (belgium) GERMANY--SPAIN =---
>> ---= Move UNITED NATIONS To Paris =---
>> *********
>> "Life would be devoid of all meaning were it without tribulation."
>> Sheldon
>> ````````````

>
> Agreed-but at this time of year-that is not practical.
> Tomatoes have become Very expensive at the supermarket.


I've been having rather good luck with those tomatoes that are sold in
clusters on the vine, as well as Roma tomatoes. Here in Phoenix we may
be closer to the source, but the prices are still high.

--
Wayne in Phoenix

*If there's a nit to pick, some nitwit will pick it.
*A mind is a terrible thing to lose.
  #19 (permalink)   Report Post  
Wayne Boatwright
 
Posts: n/a
Default

"Kswck" > wrote in
t:

>
> "PENMART01" > wrote in message
> ...
>> >"kilikini" writes:
>>>
>>>>"SportKite1" wrote:
>>>>
>>>> >
>>>> > The cost of having a nice tomato & lettuce salad/sandwich,has
>>>> > gone way up.
>>>>
>>>> Perhaps the price of having a BLT has gone up, but having a NICE
>>>> tomato is nonexistent. They are the worse tasting pieces of drek
>>>> I've seen in years....at ANY price.
>>>
>>>I agree, they're orange instead of red and they're always hard. Good
>>>luck finding vine ripened these days.

>>
>> Vine ripened is a myth... those I pick a couple of days early and
>> allow to ripen on the kitchen counter are actually as good or better
>> than those picked fully ripe, certainly better than 'drops', those
>> that fully ripen and drop off... they quite edible and very tasty but
>> are then better suited for cooking, for by the time they are fully
>> vine ripened their texture suffers for slicing.
>>
>> Even those sold "on-the-vine" ('bout 4-5 still attached to a vine)
>> are lousy, they are bright red and look perfect, perhaps too perfect
>> (perhaps genetically engineered)... but they are watery rather than
>> juicy (slice one open and lots of clear fluid gushes out), the flesh
>> has a weird texture, gelatinous-chalky (kinda like tofu), and they
>> have no flavor whatsoever (again, like tofu). And
>> the "on-the-vine" tomatoes are kinda expensive ($3.99/lb), save your
>> money. When I can't have my own home growns or locally grown from
>> farm stands I don't eat tomatoes, other than canned. Stupidmarket
>> tomatoes are strains specifcally developed to withstand
>> shipping/storage, not eating/enjoying. I've even seen square
>> tomatoes, cube shaped with flat sides, horticulturally engineered
>> nightmares so that more will fit into a crate, but flavorless and
>> even more cardboard-like than the typical stupidmarket specimens.
>>
>> Anyone wants good tomatoes they really need to grow their own.
>>
>>
>> ---= BOYCOTT FRANCE (belgium) GERMANY--SPAIN =---
>> ---= Move UNITED NATIONS To Paris =---
>> *********
>> "Life would be devoid of all meaning were it without tribulation."
>> Sheldon
>> ````````````

>
> Agreed-but at this time of year-that is not practical.
> Tomatoes have become Very expensive at the supermarket.


I've been having rather good luck with those tomatoes that are sold in
clusters on the vine, as well as Roma tomatoes. Here in Phoenix we may
be closer to the source, but the prices are still high.

--
Wayne in Phoenix

*If there's a nit to pick, some nitwit will pick it.
*A mind is a terrible thing to lose.
  #20 (permalink)   Report Post  
SportKite1
 
Posts: n/a
Default


What's with the lack of post trimming on r.f.c. from regular posters? Do we
need a freakin' refresher course? Ellen


>Subject: The fresh tomato crisis;
>From: Wayne Boatwright
>Date: 11/3/2004 8:32 PM Eastern Standard Time
>Message-id: >
>
>"Kswck" > wrote in
et:
>
>>
>> "PENMART01" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> >"kilikini" writes:
>>>>
>>>>>"SportKite1" wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> >
>>>>> > The cost of having a nice tomato & lettuce salad/sandwich,has
>>>>> > gone way up.
>>>>>
>>>>> Perhaps the price of having a BLT has gone up, but having a NICE
>>>>> tomato is nonexistent. They are the worse tasting pieces of drek
>>>>> I've seen in years....at ANY price.
>>>>
>>>>I agree, they're orange instead of red and they're always hard. Good
>>>>luck finding vine ripened these days.
>>>
>>> Vine ripened is a myth... those I pick a couple of days early and
>>> allow to ripen on the kitchen counter are actually as good or better
>>> than those picked fully ripe, certainly better than 'drops', those
>>> that fully ripen and drop off... they quite edible and very tasty but
>>> are then better suited for cooking, for by the time they are fully
>>> vine ripened their texture suffers for slicing.
>>>
>>> Even those sold "on-the-vine" ('bout 4-5 still attached to a vine)
>>> are lousy, they are bright red and look perfect, perhaps too perfect
>>> (perhaps genetically engineered)... but they are watery rather than
>>> juicy (slice one open and lots of clear fluid gushes out), the flesh
>>> has a weird texture, gelatinous-chalky (kinda like tofu), and they
>>> have no flavor whatsoever (again, like tofu). And
>>> the "on-the-vine" tomatoes are kinda expensive ($3.99/lb), save your
>>> money. When I can't have my own home growns or locally grown from
>>> farm stands I don't eat tomatoes, other than canned. Stupidmarket
>>> tomatoes are strains specifcally developed to withstand
>>> shipping/storage, not eating/enjoying. I've even seen square
>>> tomatoes, cube shaped with flat sides, horticulturally engineered
>>> nightmares so that more will fit into a crate, but flavorless and
>>> even more cardboard-like than the typical stupidmarket specimens.
>>>
>>> Anyone wants good tomatoes they really need to grow their own.
>>>
>>>
>>> ---= BOYCOTT FRANCE (belgium) GERMANY--SPAIN =---
>>> ---= Move UNITED NATIONS To Paris =---
>>> *********
>>> "Life would be devoid of all meaning were it without tribulation."
>>> Sheldon
>>> ````````````

>>
>> Agreed-but at this time of year-that is not practical.
>> Tomatoes have become Very expensive at the supermarket.

>
>I've been having rather good luck with those tomatoes that are sold in
>clusters on the vine, as well as Roma tomatoes. Here in Phoenix we may
>be closer to the source, but the prices are still high.
>
>--
>Wayne in Phoenix
>
> *If there's a nit to pick, some nitwit will pick it.
> *A mind is a terrible thing to lose.
>
>
>
>
>
>







  #21 (permalink)   Report Post  
SportKite1
 
Posts: n/a
Default


What's with the lack of post trimming on r.f.c. from regular posters? Do we
need a freakin' refresher course? Ellen


>Subject: The fresh tomato crisis;
>From: Wayne Boatwright
>Date: 11/3/2004 8:32 PM Eastern Standard Time
>Message-id: >
>
>"Kswck" > wrote in
et:
>
>>
>> "PENMART01" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> >"kilikini" writes:
>>>>
>>>>>"SportKite1" wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> >
>>>>> > The cost of having a nice tomato & lettuce salad/sandwich,has
>>>>> > gone way up.
>>>>>
>>>>> Perhaps the price of having a BLT has gone up, but having a NICE
>>>>> tomato is nonexistent. They are the worse tasting pieces of drek
>>>>> I've seen in years....at ANY price.
>>>>
>>>>I agree, they're orange instead of red and they're always hard. Good
>>>>luck finding vine ripened these days.
>>>
>>> Vine ripened is a myth... those I pick a couple of days early and
>>> allow to ripen on the kitchen counter are actually as good or better
>>> than those picked fully ripe, certainly better than 'drops', those
>>> that fully ripen and drop off... they quite edible and very tasty but
>>> are then better suited for cooking, for by the time they are fully
>>> vine ripened their texture suffers for slicing.
>>>
>>> Even those sold "on-the-vine" ('bout 4-5 still attached to a vine)
>>> are lousy, they are bright red and look perfect, perhaps too perfect
>>> (perhaps genetically engineered)... but they are watery rather than
>>> juicy (slice one open and lots of clear fluid gushes out), the flesh
>>> has a weird texture, gelatinous-chalky (kinda like tofu), and they
>>> have no flavor whatsoever (again, like tofu). And
>>> the "on-the-vine" tomatoes are kinda expensive ($3.99/lb), save your
>>> money. When I can't have my own home growns or locally grown from
>>> farm stands I don't eat tomatoes, other than canned. Stupidmarket
>>> tomatoes are strains specifcally developed to withstand
>>> shipping/storage, not eating/enjoying. I've even seen square
>>> tomatoes, cube shaped with flat sides, horticulturally engineered
>>> nightmares so that more will fit into a crate, but flavorless and
>>> even more cardboard-like than the typical stupidmarket specimens.
>>>
>>> Anyone wants good tomatoes they really need to grow their own.
>>>
>>>
>>> ---= BOYCOTT FRANCE (belgium) GERMANY--SPAIN =---
>>> ---= Move UNITED NATIONS To Paris =---
>>> *********
>>> "Life would be devoid of all meaning were it without tribulation."
>>> Sheldon
>>> ````````````

>>
>> Agreed-but at this time of year-that is not practical.
>> Tomatoes have become Very expensive at the supermarket.

>
>I've been having rather good luck with those tomatoes that are sold in
>clusters on the vine, as well as Roma tomatoes. Here in Phoenix we may
>be closer to the source, but the prices are still high.
>
>--
>Wayne in Phoenix
>
> *If there's a nit to pick, some nitwit will pick it.
> *A mind is a terrible thing to lose.
>
>
>
>
>
>





  #22 (permalink)   Report Post  
Wayne Boatwright
 
Posts: n/a
Default

(SportKite1) wrote in
:

>
> What's with the lack of post trimming on r.f.c. from regular posters?
> Do we need a freakin' refresher course? Ellen
>
>
>>Subject: The fresh tomato crisis;
>>From: Wayne Boatwright

>>Date: 11/3/2004 8:32 PM Eastern Standard Time
>>Message-id: >
>>
>>"Kswck" > wrote in
. net:
>>
>>>
>>> "PENMART01" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> >"kilikini" writes:
>>>>>
>>>>>>"SportKite1" wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > The cost of having a nice tomato & lettuce salad/sandwich,has
>>>>>> > gone way up.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Perhaps the price of having a BLT has gone up, but having a NICE
>>>>>> tomato is nonexistent. They are the worse tasting pieces of drek
>>>>>> I've seen in years....at ANY price.
>>>>>
>>>>>I agree, they're orange instead of red and they're always hard.
>>>>>Good luck finding vine ripened these days.
>>>>
>>>> Vine ripened is a myth... those I pick a couple of days early and
>>>> allow to ripen on the kitchen counter are actually as good or
>>>> better than those picked fully ripe, certainly better than 'drops',
>>>> those that fully ripen and drop off... they quite edible and very
>>>> tasty but are then better suited for cooking, for by the time they
>>>> are fully vine ripened their texture suffers for slicing.
>>>>
>>>> Even those sold "on-the-vine" ('bout 4-5 still attached to a vine)
>>>> are lousy, they are bright red and look perfect, perhaps too
>>>> perfect (perhaps genetically engineered)... but they are watery
>>>> rather than juicy (slice one open and lots of clear fluid gushes
>>>> out), the flesh has a weird texture, gelatinous-chalky (kinda like
>>>> tofu), and they have no flavor whatsoever (again, like tofu). And
>>>> the "on-the-vine" tomatoes are kinda expensive ($3.99/lb), save
>>>> your money. When I can't have my own home growns or locally grown
>>>> from farm stands I don't eat tomatoes, other than canned.
>>>> Stupidmarket tomatoes are strains specifcally developed to
>>>> withstand shipping/storage, not eating/enjoying. I've even seen
>>>> square tomatoes, cube shaped with flat sides, horticulturally
>>>> engineered nightmares so that more will fit into a crate, but
>>>> flavorless and even more cardboard-like than the typical
>>>> stupidmarket specimens.
>>>>
>>>> Anyone wants good tomatoes they really need to grow their own.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ---= BOYCOTT FRANCE (belgium) GERMANY--SPAIN =---
>>>> ---= Move UNITED NATIONS To Paris =---
>>>> *********
>>>> "Life would be devoid of all meaning were it without tribulation."
>>>> Sheldon
>>>> ````````````
>>>
>>> Agreed-but at this time of year-that is not practical.
>>> Tomatoes have become Very expensive at the supermarket.

>>
>>I've been having rather good luck with those tomatoes that are sold in
>>clusters on the vine, as well as Roma tomatoes. Here in Phoenix we
>>may be closer to the source, but the prices are still high.
>>
>>--
>>Wayne in Phoenix
>>
>> *If there's a nit to pick, some nitwit will pick it.
>> *A mind is a terrible thing to lose.


No worse than your top posting!

--
Wayne in Phoenix

*If there's a nit to pick, some nitwit will pick it.
*A mind is a terrible thing to lose.
  #23 (permalink)   Report Post  
Wayne Boatwright
 
Posts: n/a
Default

(SportKite1) wrote in
:

>
> What's with the lack of post trimming on r.f.c. from regular posters?
> Do we need a freakin' refresher course? Ellen
>
>
>>Subject: The fresh tomato crisis;
>>From: Wayne Boatwright

>>Date: 11/3/2004 8:32 PM Eastern Standard Time
>>Message-id: >
>>
>>"Kswck" > wrote in
. net:
>>
>>>
>>> "PENMART01" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> >"kilikini" writes:
>>>>>
>>>>>>"SportKite1" wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > The cost of having a nice tomato & lettuce salad/sandwich,has
>>>>>> > gone way up.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Perhaps the price of having a BLT has gone up, but having a NICE
>>>>>> tomato is nonexistent. They are the worse tasting pieces of drek
>>>>>> I've seen in years....at ANY price.
>>>>>
>>>>>I agree, they're orange instead of red and they're always hard.
>>>>>Good luck finding vine ripened these days.
>>>>
>>>> Vine ripened is a myth... those I pick a couple of days early and
>>>> allow to ripen on the kitchen counter are actually as good or
>>>> better than those picked fully ripe, certainly better than 'drops',
>>>> those that fully ripen and drop off... they quite edible and very
>>>> tasty but are then better suited for cooking, for by the time they
>>>> are fully vine ripened their texture suffers for slicing.
>>>>
>>>> Even those sold "on-the-vine" ('bout 4-5 still attached to a vine)
>>>> are lousy, they are bright red and look perfect, perhaps too
>>>> perfect (perhaps genetically engineered)... but they are watery
>>>> rather than juicy (slice one open and lots of clear fluid gushes
>>>> out), the flesh has a weird texture, gelatinous-chalky (kinda like
>>>> tofu), and they have no flavor whatsoever (again, like tofu). And
>>>> the "on-the-vine" tomatoes are kinda expensive ($3.99/lb), save
>>>> your money. When I can't have my own home growns or locally grown
>>>> from farm stands I don't eat tomatoes, other than canned.
>>>> Stupidmarket tomatoes are strains specifcally developed to
>>>> withstand shipping/storage, not eating/enjoying. I've even seen
>>>> square tomatoes, cube shaped with flat sides, horticulturally
>>>> engineered nightmares so that more will fit into a crate, but
>>>> flavorless and even more cardboard-like than the typical
>>>> stupidmarket specimens.
>>>>
>>>> Anyone wants good tomatoes they really need to grow their own.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ---= BOYCOTT FRANCE (belgium) GERMANY--SPAIN =---
>>>> ---= Move UNITED NATIONS To Paris =---
>>>> *********
>>>> "Life would be devoid of all meaning were it without tribulation."
>>>> Sheldon
>>>> ````````````
>>>
>>> Agreed-but at this time of year-that is not practical.
>>> Tomatoes have become Very expensive at the supermarket.

>>
>>I've been having rather good luck with those tomatoes that are sold in
>>clusters on the vine, as well as Roma tomatoes. Here in Phoenix we
>>may be closer to the source, but the prices are still high.
>>
>>--
>>Wayne in Phoenix
>>
>> *If there's a nit to pick, some nitwit will pick it.
>> *A mind is a terrible thing to lose.


No worse than your top posting!

--
Wayne in Phoenix

*If there's a nit to pick, some nitwit will pick it.
*A mind is a terrible thing to lose.
  #26 (permalink)   Report Post  
SportKite1
 
Posts: n/a
Default

>From: Wayne Boatwright

>No worse than your top posting!


You never have anything postive to offer. You always piggyback on other
people's posts hoping that you might get some attention. Well you did. You made
me curse for the first time ever in public..you little dweeb of a leaky freakin
boatwrong!

Ellen


  #28 (permalink)   Report Post  
SportKite1
 
Posts: n/a
Default

>From: Wayne Boatwright

>You're just a bitch, pure and simple,


And you, Mr. Flaunt Myself as so Wise, are a showboater, pure and simple.

Ellen


  #31 (permalink)   Report Post  
SportKite1
 
Posts: n/a
Default

>From: Wayne Boatwright

>I honestly can't fathom where you get that. There isn't a single followup
>post here that hasn't been tagged onto someone else's post, and it often
>runs for pages. I do no differently. I have initiated posts and asked
>direct questions and initiated requests, but it certainly wasn't for the
>attention. I was seeking information or an opinion. I don't know why you
>have such an axe to grind, other than that I didn't bow to your initial
>chastisement. You, lady, are the one with the problem. Get over it.
>
>--
>Wayne in Phoenix
>
> *If there's a nit to pick, some nitwit will pick it.
> *A mind is a terrible thing to lose.


Thanks for making my point.

Ellen




  #32 (permalink)   Report Post  
SportKite1
 
Posts: n/a
Default

>From: Wayne Boatwright

>I honestly can't fathom where you get that. There isn't a single followup
>post here that hasn't been tagged onto someone else's post, and it often
>runs for pages. I do no differently. I have initiated posts and asked
>direct questions and initiated requests, but it certainly wasn't for the
>attention. I was seeking information or an opinion. I don't know why you
>have such an axe to grind, other than that I didn't bow to your initial
>chastisement. You, lady, are the one with the problem. Get over it.
>
>--
>Wayne in Phoenix
>
> *If there's a nit to pick, some nitwit will pick it.
> *A mind is a terrible thing to lose.


Thanks for making my point.

Ellen




  #33 (permalink)   Report Post  
PENMART01
 
Posts: n/a
Default

>I've been having rather good luck with those tomatoes that are sold in
>clusters on the vine, as well as Roma tomatoes. Here in Phoenix we may
>be closer to the source, but the prices are still high.
>
>--
>Wayne in Phoenix


I'm probably spoiled from growing my own. I grow mostly romas, for sauce
making, but for eating nothing beats beefsteaks... they are often mishapen,
blemished, and often downright ugli... but no other tomato tastes as
scrumptious... and Inever see beefsteaks in any stores.



---= BOYCOTT FRANCE (belgium) GERMANY--SPAIN =---
---= Move UNITED NATIONS To Paris =---
*********
"Life would be devoid of all meaning were it without tribulation."
Sheldon
````````````
  #34 (permalink)   Report Post  
PENMART01
 
Posts: n/a
Default

>I've been having rather good luck with those tomatoes that are sold in
>clusters on the vine, as well as Roma tomatoes. Here in Phoenix we may
>be closer to the source, but the prices are still high.
>
>--
>Wayne in Phoenix


I'm probably spoiled from growing my own. I grow mostly romas, for sauce
making, but for eating nothing beats beefsteaks... they are often mishapen,
blemished, and often downright ugli... but no other tomato tastes as
scrumptious... and Inever see beefsteaks in any stores.



---= BOYCOTT FRANCE (belgium) GERMANY--SPAIN =---
---= Move UNITED NATIONS To Paris =---
*********
"Life would be devoid of all meaning were it without tribulation."
Sheldon
````````````
  #37 (permalink)   Report Post  
PENMART01
 
Posts: n/a
Default

>Hi there!
>Would you mind if I picked your brain here? I was reading a book on 'mater
>growing in the south. There was a quote that said a well tended plant should
>yield 100 lbs of tomatoes in its season. No particular variety was mentioned.
>
>What I'm inquiring is...do you think this is way out of wack...inflated yield
>so to speak.
>
>Thanks,
>Ellen


Not really out of whack... but depends what is meant by "well tended"... and
how much tending to one is willing to do. It's far more advantageous to plant
a few tomato plants and not spend so much time and effort tending to. I can
easily get 100 lbs of tomatoes from three plants and do practically no tending
to.


---= BOYCOTT FRANCE (belgium) GERMANY--SPAIN =---
---= Move UNITED NATIONS To Paris =---
*********
"Life would be devoid of all meaning were it without tribulation."
Sheldon
````````````
  #38 (permalink)   Report Post  
Richard Periut
 
Posts: n/a
Default

PENMART01 wrote:

>>Hi there!
>>Would you mind if I picked your brain here? I was reading a book on 'mater
>>growing in the south. There was a quote that said a well tended plant should
>>yield 100 lbs of tomatoes in its season. No particular variety was mentioned.
>>
>>What I'm inquiring is...do you think this is way out of wack...inflated yield
>>so to speak.
>>
>>Thanks,
>>Ellen

>
>
> Not really out of whack... but depends what is meant by "well tended"... and
> how much tending to one is willing to do. It's far more advantageous to plant
> a few tomato plants and not spend so much time and effort tending to. I can
> easily get 100 lbs of tomatoes from three plants and do practically no tending
> to.
>
>
> ---= BOYCOTT FRANCE (belgium) GERMANY--SPAIN =---
> ---= Move UNITED NATIONS To Paris =---
> *********
> "Life would be devoid of all meaning were it without tribulation."
> Sheldon
> ````````````

Sheldon,

Which varieties do you grown? Heirlooms, indeterminates, et cetera?

I've had a bit of luck with pot grown stuff, but I'm thinking of
dedicating the North part of my back yard to a veggie garden. I would
have about 3 * 80 sq. feet. I'm going to have to sacrifice that space,
which is normally grass. My neighbor I think wont like it, because there
will be various plants, shrubs, et cetera, adorning the S part of his
lawn (border.)

Also, do you germinate the seeds yourself, or buy the small plants?

TIA

Rich

--
"Dum Spiro, Spero."

As long as I breath, I hope.

Cicero (Ancient Rome)





ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸¸,ø¤° `°¤ø,¸¸,ø¤°`°¤ø
><((((º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·.¸. ><((((º> ·´¯`·. , .·´¯`·.. ><((((º>


Let there be fish!!!

  #39 (permalink)   Report Post  
Richard Periut
 
Posts: n/a
Default

PENMART01 wrote:

>>Hi there!
>>Would you mind if I picked your brain here? I was reading a book on 'mater
>>growing in the south. There was a quote that said a well tended plant should
>>yield 100 lbs of tomatoes in its season. No particular variety was mentioned.
>>
>>What I'm inquiring is...do you think this is way out of wack...inflated yield
>>so to speak.
>>
>>Thanks,
>>Ellen

>
>
> Not really out of whack... but depends what is meant by "well tended"... and
> how much tending to one is willing to do. It's far more advantageous to plant
> a few tomato plants and not spend so much time and effort tending to. I can
> easily get 100 lbs of tomatoes from three plants and do practically no tending
> to.
>
>
> ---= BOYCOTT FRANCE (belgium) GERMANY--SPAIN =---
> ---= Move UNITED NATIONS To Paris =---
> *********
> "Life would be devoid of all meaning were it without tribulation."
> Sheldon
> ````````````

Sheldon,

Which varieties do you grown? Heirlooms, indeterminates, et cetera?

I've had a bit of luck with pot grown stuff, but I'm thinking of
dedicating the North part of my back yard to a veggie garden. I would
have about 3 * 80 sq. feet. I'm going to have to sacrifice that space,
which is normally grass. My neighbor I think wont like it, because there
will be various plants, shrubs, et cetera, adorning the S part of his
lawn (border.)

Also, do you germinate the seeds yourself, or buy the small plants?

TIA

Rich

--
"Dum Spiro, Spero."

As long as I breath, I hope.

Cicero (Ancient Rome)





ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸¸¸,ø¤° `°¤ø,¸¸,ø¤°`°¤ø
><((((º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·.¸. ><((((º> ·´¯`·. , .·´¯`·.. ><((((º>


Let there be fish!!!

  #40 (permalink)   Report Post  
Katra
 
Posts: n/a
Default

In article >,
(SportKite1) wrote:

> >From:

>
> > We grow quite a few tomatoes on our farm,mostly Celebrity,Viva
> >Italiana,Abe Lincoln hybrid and a few other varieties.It wasn't the best
> >season this year,but we canned 60 qts.

>
> Hi there!
> Would you mind if I picked your brain here? I was reading a book on 'mater
> growing in the south. There was a quote that said a well tended plant should
> yield 100 lbs of tomatoes in its season. No particular variety was mentioned.
>
> What I'm inquiring is...do you think this is way out of wack...inflated yield
> so to speak.
>
> Thanks,
> Ellen
>
>


Not if the plant is tended perfectly...
Perfect lighting conditions, keep all the branches tied up,
hand-water from the base (no overhead watering) and you have
the right variety. I've started using 7 ft. tall poles to stake them
instead of cages. Putting them on a 6 ft. wire fence is even better!
More to tie to and you can spread the vine out better for easier access
to the fruits.

Beefsteak variety comes to mind, but the better boys or patios will
yield well too.

We had too much rain this summer so my plants got kinda blighted from
the overhead water, so I only got a good yield on the sweet 100's and
the plum tomatoes. The rest only did ok but the vines did not get very
big.

I just put 3 nice new 12" vines into separate 3 gallon pots and have
placed them with a cage inside of one of the greenhouses. This will be
my very first attempt at winter hothouse tomatoes! I just got my
greenhouses this spring. ;-) I put up 3 of these and will be putting in
a 4th one over the main old garden bed this winter:

http://www.propools.com/cgi-bin/Soft.../greenhouses/d
reamhouse.htm?E+scstore

I _highly_ recommend these!!! They are well prices and are FAR sturdier
than they appear to be. I love them. :-) They also go up in about 30
minutes or so. Easier than pitching a camping tent.

But, in answer to your question, yes, I think it is possible.
Tomato vines get remarkably large!!!

K.

--
Sprout the Mung Bean to reply...

>,,<Cat's Haven Hobby Farm>,,<Katraatcenturyteldotnet>,,<


http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...user id=katra
Reply
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules

Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
REC: FRESH TOMATO PIE hahabogus[_3_] General Cooking 5 04-05-2009 05:48 PM
Fresh Tomato Soup? FoodCruiser Recipes 1 31-01-2009 06:20 AM
Fresh Tomato Bisque [email protected] Recipes (moderated) 0 17-05-2006 09:02 AM
Fresh Tomato Vinaigrette Duckie ® Recipes 0 28-09-2005 10:53 PM
Fresh Tomato Pie hahabogus General Cooking 34 02-04-2004 05:32 AM


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 06:39 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2004-2025 FoodBanter.com.
The comments are property of their posters.
 

About Us

"It's about Food and drink"