"Ema Nymton" > wrote in message
...
> On 12/31/2012 9:44 PM, Farm1 wrote:
>
>> You could always try the UK food group (uk.food+drink.misc) but do be
>> aware
>> that they can be far worse than this group. In particular do not offend
>> Hyacinth Bucket in that group or you will need to leave it.
>
> Is there really a Hyacinth Bucket (boo-KAY) in that newsgroup. ROFL

Only the person complaining about it ...
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On Tuesday, January 1, 2013 5:16:58 AM UTC-6, Farm1 wrote:
> "Gary" > wrote in message ...
>
> > Sqwertz wrote:
>
> >>
>
> >> On Tue, 1 Jan 2013 14:44:24 +1100, Farm1 wrote:
>
> >>
>
> >> > You could always try the UK food group (uk.food+drink.misc) but do be
>
> >> > aware
>
> >> > that they can be far worse than this group. In particular do not
>
> >> > offend
>
> >> > Hyacinth Bucket in that group or you will need to leave it.
>
> >>
>
> >> Somebody can actually make you leave a non-moderated Usenet group?
>
> >>
>
> >> -sw
>
> >
>
> > Go there and mess with the guy, Steve. It will be fun to watch you ****
>
> > him
>
> > off. hahaha
>
> > I just "subscribed" to the group. I see a few ppl there from RFC
>
>
>
> Hyacinth is female. She was a character in a British TV show called
>
> "Keeping up Appearances". I don't think it's a good ifea to go there with
>
> the intention of upsetting someone.

The poster who uses that nym might be male or female, but it's likely that (s)he'd insist that her name be pronounced, "bo-kay'."

--Bryan

On Tuesday, January 1, 2013 7:57:36 AM UTC-6, Ophelia wrote:
> "Gary" > wrote in message ...
>
> > Sqwertz wrote:
>
> >>
>
> >> On Tue, 1 Jan 2013 14:44:24 +1100, Farm1 wrote:
>
> >>
>
> >> > You could always try the UK food group (uk.food+drink.misc) but do be
>
> >> > aware
>
> >> > that they can be far worse than this group. In particular do not
>
> >> > offend
>
> >> > Hyacinth Bucket in that group or you will need to leave it.
>
> >>
>
> >> Somebody can actually make you leave a non-moderated Usenet group?
>
> >>
>
> >> -sw
>
> >
>
> > Go there and mess with the guy, Steve. It will be fun to watch you ****
>
> > him
>
> > off. hahaha
>
> > I just "subscribed" to the group. I see a few ppl there from RFC
>
>
>
> If you are talking about Baz, he doesn't post in the uk food group. He is a
>
> very nice gardener and was just asking how to use his dried beans
>
Because you Brits have little experience with beans that are not tinned? <ducking>

--Bryan

"Ema Nymton" > wrote in message
...
> On 12/31/2012 9:44 PM, Farm1 wrote:
>
>> You could always try the UK food group (uk.food+drink.misc) but do be
>> aware
>> that they can be far worse than this group. In particular do not offend
>> Hyacinth Bucket in that group or you will need to leave it.
>
> Is there really a Hyacinth Bucket (boo-KAY) in that newsgroup. ROFL

Read it for a while and decide for yourself :-)))

(Hint: Hyacinth is not her usenet name, it's the nickname she's been given
by others over the years)

"Ophelia" > wrote in message
> "Ema Nymton" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 12/31/2012 9:44 PM, Farm1 wrote:
>>
>>> You could always try the UK food group (uk.food+drink.misc) but do be
>>> aware
>>> that they can be far worse than this group. In particular do not offend
>>> Hyacinth Bucket in that group or you will need to leave it.
>>
>> Is there really a Hyacinth Bucket (boo-KAY) in that newsgroup. ROFL
>
> Only the person complaining about it ...

LOL. But you're Hyacinth's acolyte.....

"Bryan" > wrote in message
...
> On Tuesday, January 1, 2013 5:16:58 AM UTC-6, Farm1 wrote:
>> "Gary" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>> > Sqwertz wrote:
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >> On Tue, 1 Jan 2013 14:44:24 +1100, Farm1 wrote:
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >> > You could always try the UK food group (uk.food+drink.misc) but do
>> >> > be
>>
>> >> > aware
>>
>> >> > that they can be far worse than this group. In particular do not
>>
>> >> > offend
>>
>> >> > Hyacinth Bucket in that group or you will need to leave it.
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >> Somebody can actually make you leave a non-moderated Usenet group?
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >> -sw
>>
>> >
>>
>> > Go there and mess with the guy, Steve. It will be fun to watch you
>> > ****
>>
>> > him
>>
>> > off. hahaha
>>
>> > I just "subscribed" to the group. I see a few ppl there from RFC
>>
>>
>>
>> Hyacinth is female. She was a character in a British TV show called
>>
>> "Keeping up Appearances". I don't think it's a good ifea to go there
>> with
>>
>> the intention of upsetting someone.
>
> The poster who uses that nym might be male or female, but it's likely that
> (s)he'd insist that her name be pronounced, "bo-kay'."

No-one uses that nym. It's a nickname that has been given by other posters
in other ngs based on the behaviour of a certain poster.

On Dec 31 2012, 9:12*am, Baz > wrote:
> I have been reading some topics in this nice friendly group and I realise
> that i'm out of my depth.
> Can anybody point me to a more basic cooking group please?
> When I learn a bit more I can contribute to this one.

What the **** is advanced about this group? Advanced assholism! LOL

On Dec 31 2012, 12:15*pm, Baz > wrote:
> KenK > wrote in news:XnsA13A6ED11761Dinvalidcom@
> 130.133.4.11:
>
>
>
>
>
> > ImStillMags > wrote in
> :
>
> >> On Dec 31, 7:12 am, Baz > wrote:
> >>> I have been reading some topics in this nice friendly group and I
> >>> realise that i'm out of my depth.
> >>> Can anybody point me to a more basic cooking group please?
> >>> When I learn a bit more I can contribute to this one.
>
> >>> Thanks
> >>> Baz
>
> >> No it's not. * The people who post here have been doing so for quite a
> >> while and it may seem like it's too advanced but most here are very
> >> willing to help you with any question you may have.
>
> >> Ask. * What do you need to know?
>
> > And then Sheldon will jump on your post and tell you what a stupid
> > pinhead you are. (Don't bother respomding to this Sheldon; I won't read
> > it.)
>
> Come on Sheldon I say. I might be a pinhead, but I am a pinhead who has
> used usenet before it was named.
> My killfile is waiting for you.

Sheldon is hilarious, I wish he posted as much as he did in the past.

"Janet" wrote in message
...

In article >, times says...
>
> "Baz" > wrote in message
>
> > Wow. Insult taken.
>
> I just realised that you are the Baz who posts in urg!!!!!

Sssssh; on urg Baz is busily trying to deny he has ever posted here
on rfc


Janet



LOL....:-)

BB

"Farm1" wrote in message ...

"Baz" > wrote in message
...
> pltrgyst > wrote in :
>
>> On 12/31/12 1:58 PM, Baz wrote:
>>> gtr > wrote in news:2012123110180138653-xxx@yyyzzz:
>>>
>>>> For starters I would start a separate topoic other than "Nice
>>>> Group". Something like "Aid with Dried Beans" or something. Then ask
>>>> about how best to handle a couple. Then wait for the attacks, and
>>>> sift through them for our sincere squad to produce some input.
>>>>
>>>> I'm surprised that soaking for 24 hours doesn't soften beans, but
>>>> will be glad to discuss it in that new topic.
>>>
>>> So then, gtr, please dont be patronising. Your "for starters" cuts
>>> nothing. I am looking for advice with cooking my preserved from my
>>> garden, NOT a futile lesson within YOUR etiquette.
>>
>> I think you're imagining a slight here, perhaps due to old world/new
>> world English differences.
>>
>> In point of fact, he *is* right -- anyone reading a thread entitled
>> "Nice group, but too advanced for me" is not likely doing so expecting
>> to contribute useful cooking advice.
>>
>> Now if you want to be insulted further, I'm still waiting to see how
>> you're going to explain your claim, since there was no
>> pre-uucp/fidonet newsgroup access of any kind in the UK, and uucp was
>> released in 1979, the same year that the name "usenet" was
>> established. Perhaps you meant that you accessed usenet before the
>> advent of public Internet, or the WWW (in which case, you're a
>> comparative newbie.)
>>
>> >On 12/31/12 1:15 PM, Baz wrote:
>> >> .... I am a pinhead who has used usenet before it was named.
>> >
>> >Oh? Interesting. Were you here in the States working on ARPAnet?
>> >Where, and for whom?
>>
>> -- Larry
>>
>>
>
> Wow. Insult taken.

You could always try the UK food group (uk.food+drink.misc) but do be aware
that they can be far worse than this group. In particular do not offend
Hyacinth Bucket in that group or you will need to leave it.






Hi, Fran...I will have to look into that group more often, to see who it is
that has earned that title....:-)

BB

On Wed, 2 Jan 2013 16:23:56 +1000, "Bigbazza" > wrote:

>
>
> "Janet" wrote in message
> ...
>
> In article >, times says...
> >
> > "Baz" > wrote in message
> >
> > > Wow. Insult taken.
> >
> > I just realised that you are the Baz who posts in urg!!!!!
>
> Sssssh; on urg Baz is busily trying to deny he has ever posted here
> on rfc
>
>
> Janet
>
>
>
> LOL....:-)
>
> BB

What's urg and if you've posted here, I certainly don't remember you.
Does your news reader have a kill file? If so, it will get a good
workout - but once you've adjusted it, things will be just fine here.

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

"spamtrap1888" > wrote in message
...

>> Baz is a gentle soul who post in a gardening group. He got on the wrong
>> side of the net's biggest bully. I fear she has won and he is very
>> upset.
>> No doubt she will be celebrating, it is what she feeds on. Poison and
>> bile.
>
> It is too bad.
>
> In any form of communication there is a signal-to-noise ratio.
> Information that is unhelpful and mean spirited must be treated as
> noise and filtered out. (Some people are unhelpful yet harmless, while
> others can be grumpy but helpful.)

Yes, I agree, but there are those who take great delight in hurting people.
A true psychopath. One day, there will be someone who is really damaged -
and then watch out ...
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http://www.shop.helpforheroes.org.uk/

On 2013-01-02 19:10:47 +0000, spamtrap1888 said:

>> If you are talking about Baz, he doesn't post in the uk food group. *He is a
>> very nice gardener and was just asking how to use his dried beans
>
> He did not receive a warm welcome from "gtr" and others.

Not true at all.

Actually he got a very warm welcome from me, and I gave him advice on
how best to get his questions answered. Then he insulted me two or
three different ways for my effort. I then gave him a faux tongue
lashing and welcomed him yet again, though this time as a paranoid
nutcase.

> But you just have to ignore anonymous bullies on usenet.

That advice may well be tantamount to personal insult to some nutcases.

On 2013-01-02 19:36:27 +0000, Ophelia said:

> "spamtrap1888" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>> On Jan 1, 5:57 am, "Ophelia" > wrote:
>>> "Gary" > wrote in ...
>>>> Sqwertz wrote:
>>>
>>>>> On Tue, 1 Jan 2013 14:44:24 +1100, Farm1 wrote:
>>>
>>>>>> You could always try the UK food group (uk.food+drink.misc) but do be
>>>>>> aware
>>>>>> that they can be far worse than this group. In particular do not
>>>>>> offend
>>>>>> Hyacinth Bucket in that group or you will need to leave it.
>>>
>>>>> Somebody can actually make you leave a non-moderated Usenet group?
>>>
>>>>> -sw
>>>
>>>> Go there and mess with the guy, Steve. It will be fun to watch you ****
>>>> him
>>>> off. hahaha
>>>> I just "subscribed" to the group. I see a few ppl there from RFC
>>>
>>> If you are talking about Baz, he doesn't post in the uk food group. He is a
>>> very nice gardener and was just asking how to use his dried beans
>>>
>>
>> He did not receive a warm welcome from "gtr" and others.
>>
>> But you just have to ignore anonymous bullies on usenet.
>
> Baz is a gentle soul who post in a gardening group. He got on the
> wrong side of the net's biggest bully. I fear she has won and he is
> very upset.
> No doubt she will be celebrating, it is what she feeds on. Poison and bile.
>
> --

Don't you people EVER talk about food?

"gtr" > wrote in message news:20130102133246678-xxx@yyyzzz...
> On 2013-01-02 19:10:47 +0000, spamtrap1888 said:
>
>>> If you are talking about Baz, he doesn't post in the uk food group. He
>>> is a
>>> very nice gardener and was just asking how to use his dried beans
>>
>> He did not receive a warm welcome from "gtr" and others.
>
> Not true at all.
>
> Actually he got a very warm welcome from me, and I gave him advice on how
> best to get his questions answered. Then he insulted me two or three
> different ways for my effort. I then gave him a faux tongue lashing and
> welcomed him yet again, though this time as a paranoid nutcase.
>
>> But you just have to ignore anonymous bullies on usenet.
>
> That advice may well be tantamount to personal insult to some nutcases.

I didn't come into it for a wee while because didn't realise who it was
supposed to have posted. When I realised who it was supposed to be I spoke
up.

Please note who copied his denials in the gardening groups and the response
to it - Here! And of course, who copied the supposed Baz posts from Here -
into the gardening group! I rest my case! Baz is devastated and I fear he
will never have the courage to post again

I still do not believe it was Baz who wrote that, whatever the proof. He
can be a bit prickly but not this!! Out of character!

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"gtr" > wrote in message news:2013010213331619228-xxx@yyyzzz...

> Don't you people EVER talk about food?

Well since I was the OP on the meatloaf thread ... Not long enough?

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On 2013-01-02 21:55:13 +0000, Ophelia said:

> "gtr" > wrote in message news:20130102133246678-xxx@yyyzzz...
>> On 2013-01-02 19:10:47 +0000, spamtrap1888 said:
>>
>>>> If you are talking about Baz, he doesn't post in the uk food group. He is a
>>>> very nice gardener and was just asking how to use his dried beans
>>>
>>> He did not receive a warm welcome from "gtr" and others.
>>
>> Not true at all.
>>
>> Actually he got a very warm welcome from me, and I gave him advice on
>> how best to get his questions answered. Then he insulted me two or
>> three different ways for my effort. I then gave him a faux tongue
>> lashing and welcomed him yet again, though this time as a paranoid
>> nutcase.
>>
>>> But you just have to ignore anonymous bullies on usenet.
>>
>> That advice may well be tantamount to personal insult to some nutcases.
>
> I didn't come into it for a wee while because didn't realise who it was
> supposed to have posted. When I realised who it was supposed to be I
> spoke up.
>
> Please note who copied his denials in the gardening groups and the
> response to it - Here! And of course, who copied the supposed Baz
> posts from Here - into the gardening group! I rest my case! Baz is
> devastated and I fear he will never have the courage to post again
>
> I still do not believe it was Baz who wrote that, whatever the proof.
> He can be a bit prickly but not this!! Out of character!

How very sad this whole affair has turned out. Please relay my
heartfelt good wishes to the person I didn't respond to (responding
only to an apparent marauder), for the things I didn't say to them--and
especially to the way they were ill-interpreted as being to the person
of the same name.

On 2013-01-02 21:56:31 +0000, Ophelia said:

> "gtr" > wrote in message news:2013010213331619228-xxx@yyyzzz...
>
>> Don't you people EVER talk about food?
>
> Well since I was the OP on the meatloaf thread ... Not long enough?

Let me check against my tables...

Yes, I see you there. You've been checked off the list.

"gtr" > wrote in message news:2013010215110411328-xxx@yyyzzz...
> On 2013-01-02 21:55:13 +0000, Ophelia said:
>
>> "gtr" > wrote in message news:20130102133246678-xxx@yyyzzz...
>>> On 2013-01-02 19:10:47 +0000, spamtrap1888 said:
>>>
>>>>> If you are talking about Baz, he doesn't post in the uk food group.
>>>>> He is a
>>>>> very nice gardener and was just asking how to use his dried beans
>>>>
>>>> He did not receive a warm welcome from "gtr" and others.
>>>
>>> Not true at all.
>>>
>>> Actually he got a very warm welcome from me, and I gave him advice on
>>> how best to get his questions answered. Then he insulted me two or
>>> three different ways for my effort. I then gave him a faux tongue
>>> lashing and welcomed him yet again, though this time as a paranoid
>>> nutcase.
>>>
>>>> But you just have to ignore anonymous bullies on usenet.
>>>
>>> That advice may well be tantamount to personal insult to some nutcases.
>>
>> I didn't come into it for a wee while because didn't realise who it was
>> supposed to have posted. When I realised who it was supposed to be I
>> spoke up.
>>
>> Please note who copied his denials in the gardening groups and the
>> response to it - Here! And of course, who copied the supposed Baz posts
>> from Here - into the gardening group! I rest my case! Baz is devastated
>> and I fear he will never have the courage to post again
>>
>> I still do not believe it was Baz who wrote that, whatever the proof. He
>> can be a bit prickly but not this!! Out of character!
>
> How very sad this whole affair has turned out. Please relay my heartfelt
> good wishes to the person I didn't respond to (responding only to an
> apparent marauder), for the things I didn't say to them--and especially to
> the way they were ill-interpreted as being to the person of the same name.

If I can work that out and If he ever posts again ... I will pass your
message on

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"gtr" > wrote in message news:2013010215115380576-xxx@yyyzzz...
> On 2013-01-02 21:56:31 +0000, Ophelia said:
>
>> "gtr" > wrote in message
>> news:2013010213331619228-xxx@yyyzzz...
>>
>>> Don't you people EVER talk about food?
>>
>> Well since I was the OP on the meatloaf thread ... Not long enough?
>
> Let me check against my tables...
>
> Yes, I see you there. You've been checked off the list.

<g>

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On Jan 2, 1:32*pm, gtr > wrote:
> On 2013-01-02 19:10:47 +0000, spamtrap1888 said:
>
> >> If you are talking about Baz, he doesn't post in the uk food group. *He is a
> >> very nice gardener and was just asking how to use his dried beans
>
> > He did not receive a warm welcome from "gtr" and others.
>
> Not true at all.
>
> Actually he got a very warm welcome from me, and I gave him advice on
> how best to get his questions answered. *Then he insulted me two or
> three different ways for my effort. I then gave him a faux tongue
> lashing and welcomed him yet again, though this time as a paranoid
> nutcase.
>

This was your second response to him:

On 2012-12-31 18:58:06 +0000, Baz said:

>> For starters I would start a separate topoic other than "Nice Group".
>> Something like "Aid with Dried Beans" or something. Then ask about how
>> best to handle a couple. Then wait for the attacks, and sift through
>> them for our sincere squad to produce some input.

>> I'm surprised that soaking for 24 hours doesn't soften beans, but will
>> be glad to discuss it in that new topic.

> So then, gtr, please dont be patronising.

I wasn't, but attacking me personally for attempting to help you
navigate what I thought to be a new situation for you certainly
demonstrates to me: You'll do just fine here. You're among many
similar
nutjobs.

> I am looking for advice with cooking my preserved from my garden, NOT a
> futile lesson within YOUR etiquette.

**** your mother in the skull, you prissy paranoid asshole!

Ah! Now, we're all set to discuss dried beans in a way that won't be
too "advanced" fo ryou. Let the fun begin!

On Mon, 31 Dec 2012 cshenk wrote:

>pltrgyst wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
>> > On 12/31/12 1:15 PM, Baz wrote:
>> >> .... I am a pinhead who has used usenet before it was named.
>> >
>> > Oh? Interesting. Were you here in the States working on ARPAnet?
>> > >Where, and for whom?
>
>If it helps Larry, I started with ARPAnet although we split a piece off
>and it had a different name and was all high side for me at the time.
>US Navy. Actually knew a guy named Baz then but I'm not saying this is
>the same person. He'd have to be a USA citizen to have been possibly
>the same one and he'd be about 50-60 now.
>
Hey, are you Carol Shenkenberger of SHENK'S EXPRESS (1:275/100)?

Apologies if you're not.

David (formerly ICHTHUS 2:252/110 R.I.P.)

--
David Rance writing from Caversham, Reading, UK

On 2013-01-02 23:54:14 +0000, spamtrap1888 said:

> On Jan 2, 1:32*pm, gtr > wrote:
>> On 2013-01-02 19:10:47 +0000, spamtrap1888 said:
>>
>>>> If you are talking about Baz, he doesn't post in the uk food group. *He is a
>>>> very nice gardener and was just asking how to use his dried beans
>>
>>> He did not receive a warm welcome from "gtr" and others.
>>
>> Not true at all.
>>
>> Actually he got a very warm welcome from me, and I gave him advice on
>> how best to get his questions answered. *Then he insulted me two or
>> three different ways for my effort. I then gave him a faux tongue
>> lashing and welcomed him yet again, though this time as a paranoid
>> nutcase.
>>
>
> This was your second response to him:
>
> On 2012-12-31 18:58:06 +0000, Baz said:
>
>>> For starters I would start a separate topoic other than "Nice Group".
>>> Something like "Aid with Dried Beans" or something. Then ask about how
>>> best to handle a couple. Then wait for the attacks, and sift through
>>> them for our sincere squad to produce some input.
>
>>> I'm surprised that soaking for 24 hours doesn't soften beans, but will
>>> be glad to discuss it in that new topic.
>
>> So then, gtr, please dont be patronising.
>
> I wasn't, but attacking me personally for attempting to help you
> navigate what I thought to be a new situation for you certainly
> demonstrates to me: You'll do just fine here. You're among many
> similar nutjobs.
>
>> I am looking for advice with cooking my preserved from my garden, NOT a
>> futile lesson within YOUR etiquette.
>
> **** your mother in the skull, you prissy paranoid asshole!
>
> Ah! Now, we're all set to discuss dried beans in a way that won't be
> too "advanced" fo ryou. Let the fun begin!

I know! I posted it, and I think I described it (above) quite accurately.

On Jan 2, 4:04*pm, gtr > wrote:
> On 2013-01-02 23:54:14 +0000, spamtrap1888 said:
>

>
> > On Jan 2, 1:32*pm, gtr > wrote:
> >> On 2013-01-02 19:10:47 +0000, spamtrap1888 said:
>
> >>>> If you are talking about Baz, he doesn't post in the uk food group. *He is a
> >>>> very nice gardener and was just asking how to use his dried beans
>
> >>> He did not receive a warm welcome from "gtr" and others.
>
> >> Not true at all.
>
> >> Actually he got a very warm welcome from me, and I gave him advice on
> >> how best to get his questions answered. *Then he insulted me two or
> >> three different ways for my effort. I then gave him a faux tongue
> >> lashing and welcomed him yet again, though this time as a paranoid
> >> nutcase.
>
> > This was your second response to him:
>
> > On 2012-12-31 18:58:06 +0000, Baz said:
>
> >>> For starters I would start a separate topoic other than "Nice Group".
> >>> Something like "Aid with Dried Beans" or something. Then ask about how
> >>> best to handle a couple. *Then wait for the attacks, and sift through
> >>> them for our sincere squad to produce some input.
>
> >>> I'm surprised that soaking for 24 hours doesn't soften beans, but will
> >>> be glad to discuss it in that new topic.
>
> >> So then, gtr, please dont be patronising.
>
> > I wasn't, but attacking me personally for attempting to help you
> > navigate what I thought to be a new situation for you certainly
> > demonstrates to me: You'll do just fine here. You're among many
> > similar nutjobs.
>
> >> I am looking for advice with cooking my preserved from my garden, NOT *a
> >> futile lesson within YOUR etiquette.
>
> > **** your mother in the skull, you prissy paranoid asshole!
>
> > Ah! *Now, we're all set to discuss dried beans in a way that won't be
> > too "advanced" fo ryou. Let the fun begin!
>
> I know! *I posted it, and I think I described it (above) quite accurately.

Rather too warm a welcome for my taste.

David Rance wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On Mon, 31 Dec 2012 cshenk wrote:
>
> > pltrgyst wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> >
> >>> On 12/31/12 1:15 PM, Baz wrote:
> >>>> .... I am a pinhead who has used usenet before it was named.
> > > >
> >>> Oh? Interesting. Were you here in the States working on ARPAnet?
> >>> >Where, and for whom?
> >
> > If it helps Larry, I started with ARPAnet although we split a piece
> > off and it had a different name and was all high side for me at the
> > time. US Navy. Actually knew a guy named Baz then but I'm not
> > saying this is the same person. He'd have to be a USA citizen to
> > have been possibly the same one and he'd be about 50-60 now.
> >
> Hey, are you Carol Shenkenberger of SHENK'S EXPRESS (1:275/100)?
>
> Apologies if you're not.
>
> David (formerly ICHTHUS 2:252/110 R.I.P.)

Yup! Still am. Site still up and working 20 connects an hour at
minimum (grin).

Nice to see you again!



--

On Wed, 2 Jan 2013 20:11:50 -0000, Janet > wrote:

> In article >,
> says...
> >
> > On Wed, 2 Jan 2013 16:23:56 +1000, "Bigbazza" > wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > "Janet" wrote in message
> > > ...
> > >
> > > In article >, times says...
> > > >
> > > > "Baz" > wrote in message
> > > >
> > > > > Wow. Insult taken.
> > > >
> > > > I just realised that you are the Baz who posts in urg!!!!!
> > >
> > > Sssssh; on urg Baz is busily trying to deny he has ever posted here
> > > on rfc
> > >
> > >
> > > Janet
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > LOL....:-)
> > >
> > > BB
> >
> > What's urg and if you've posted here, I certainly don't remember you.
>
> SF if you had ever posted in urg you wouldn't need to ask.
> .
> It's the abbreviation universally used by posters to uk.rec.gardening.
>
> Janet UK.

Thanks Janet, what I feel really stupid about is that I just realized
Baz or BB is Barry. He posts here on and off as Bigbazza and I didn't
make the Baz/BB connection before this. No idea who else he is or if
he really is a sometimes poster. I'm positive many posters here have
both multiple and serial personas because strangers jump into rfc with
group history etc. You know who the real newbies are because they act
like they're new.

I'd say Baz meant he doesn't use the Baz persona when he posts to rfc.
I'd rather people picked one posting name and stuck to it, but that's
a real pipe dream considering who nymshifts and who doesn't.

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

sf > wrote in
:

> On Wed, 2 Jan 2013 20:11:50 -0000, Janet > wrote:
>
>> In article >,
>> says...
>> >
>> > On Wed, 2 Jan 2013 16:23:56 +1000, "Bigbazza" >
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > "Janet" wrote in message
>> > > ...
>> > >
>> > > In article >, times
>> > > says...
>> > > >
>> > > > "Baz" > wrote in message
>> > > >
>> > > > > Wow. Insult taken.
>> > > >
>> > > > I just realised that you are the Baz who posts in urg!!!!!
>> > >
>> > > Sssssh; on urg Baz is busily trying to deny he has ever posted
>> > > here
>> > > on rfc
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Janet
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > LOL....:-)
>> > >
>> > > BB
>> >
>> > What's urg and if you've posted here, I certainly don't remember
>> > you.
>>
>> SF if you had ever posted in urg you wouldn't need to ask.
>> .
>> It's the abbreviation universally used by posters to
>> uk.rec.gardening.
>>
>> Janet UK.
>
> Thanks Janet, what I feel really stupid about is that I just realized
> Baz or BB is Barry. He posts here on and off as Bigbazza and I didn't
> make the Baz/BB connection before this.


Pretty sure "Baz" is *not* "Bigbazza". "Baz" is a Pom, BB is Aussie.


--
Peter
Brisbane
Australia

To be a warrior is not a simple matter of wishing to be one.
It is rather and endless struggle
that will go on to the very last moment of our lives.
Nobody is born a warrior,in exactly the same way that
nobody is born an average man.
We have to make ourselves into one or the other.
A warrior must only take care that his spirit is not broken.

"Bigbazza" > wrote in message
> "Farm1" wrote in message ...

> You could always try the UK food group (uk.food+drink.misc) but do be
> aware
> that they can be far worse than this group. In particular do not offend
> Hyacinth Bucket in that group or you will need to leave it.
>
> Hi, Fran...I will have to look into that group more often, to see who it
> is that has earned that title....:-)

Hint; It's the name Gordon uses for her :-))

"spamtrap1888" > wrote in message
On Jan 1, 5:57 am, "Ophelia" > wrote:
> "Gary" > wrote in
> ...
> > Sqwertz wrote:
>
> >> On Tue, 1 Jan 2013 14:44:24 +1100, Farm1 wrote:
>
> >> > You could always try the UK food group (uk.food+drink.misc) but do be
> >> > aware
> >> > that they can be far worse than this group. In particular do not
> >> > offend
> >> > Hyacinth Bucket in that group or you will need to leave it.
>
> >> Somebody can actually make you leave a non-moderated Usenet group?
>
> >> -sw
>
> > Go there and mess with the guy, Steve. It will be fun to watch you ****
> > him
> > off. hahaha
> > I just "subscribed" to the group. I see a few ppl there from RFC
>
> If you are talking about Baz, he doesn't post in the uk food group. He is
> a
> very nice gardener and was just asking how to use his dried beans
>

He did not receive a warm welcome from "gtr" and others.

But you just have to ignore anonymous bullies on usenet.
___________________________________________
??? gtr didn't gush and throw out w welcome mat but then gtr also said
nothing to which anyone could consider to be the least bit offensive.

"Ophelia" > wrote in message
> "spamtrap1888" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Jan 1, 5:57 am, "Ophelia" > wrote:
>>> "Gary" > wrote in
>>> ...
>>> > Sqwertz wrote:
>>>
>>> >> On Tue, 1 Jan 2013 14:44:24 +1100, Farm1 wrote:
>>>
>>> >> > You could always try the UK food group (uk.food+drink.misc) but do
>>> >> > be
>>> >> > aware
>>> >> > that they can be far worse than this group. In particular do not
>>> >> > offend
>>> >> > Hyacinth Bucket in that group or you will need to leave it.
>>>
>>> >> Somebody can actually make you leave a non-moderated Usenet group?
>>>
>>> >> -sw
>>>
>>> > Go there and mess with the guy, Steve. It will be fun to watch you
>>> > ****
>>> > him
>>> > off. hahaha
>>> > I just "subscribed" to the group. I see a few ppl there from RFC
>>>
>>> If you are talking about Baz, he doesn't post in the uk food group. He
>>> is a
>>> very nice gardener and was just asking how to use his dried beans
>>>
>>
>> He did not receive a warm welcome from "gtr" and others.
>>
>> But you just have to ignore anonymous bullies on usenet.
>
> Baz is a gentle soul who post in a gardening group. He got on the wrong
> side of the net's biggest bully. I fear she has won and he is very upset.
> No doubt she will be celebrating, it is what she feeds on. Poison and
> bile.

Your usual smear and lies I see.

This would be the 3rd time in 2 weeks. 6 people tell you something and you
refuse to admit that you are wrong and blame Janet and I for being at fault.
You then deny to sf that a book in on Amizon UK when it's easily found
there. Now you try the standard smear tactics used by the gutter press.

"Ophelia" > wrote in message
> "spamtrap1888" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>> Baz is a gentle soul who post in a gardening group. He got on the wrong
>>> side of the net's biggest bully. I fear she has won and he is very
>>> upset.
>>> No doubt she will be celebrating, it is what she feeds on. Poison and
>>> bile.
>>
>> It is too bad.
>>
>> In any form of communication there is a signal-to-noise ratio.
>> Information that is unhelpful and mean spirited must be treated as
>> noise and filtered out. (Some people are unhelpful yet harmless, while
>> others can be grumpy but helpful.)
>
> Yes, I agree, but there are those who take great delight in hurting
> people.
> A true psychopath. One day, there will be someone who is really damaged -
> and then watch out ...

And now you move to straight out defamatory statements in addition to your
smears. You should count yourself lucky that the person you delight in
defaming repeatedly doesn't take legal action against you.

On Jan 2, 8:12*pm, "Farm1" > wrote:
> "spamtrap1888" > wrote in message
>
> On Jan 1, 5:57 am, "Ophelia" > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > "Gary" > wrote in
> > ...
> > > Sqwertz wrote:
>
> > >> On Tue, 1 Jan 2013 14:44:24 +1100, Farm1 wrote:
>
> > >> > You could always try the UK food group (uk.food+drink.misc) but do be
> > >> > aware
> > >> > that they can be far worse than this group. In particular do not
> > >> > offend
> > >> > Hyacinth Bucket in that group or you will need to leave it.
>
> > >> Somebody can actually make you leave a non-moderated Usenet group?
>
> > >> -sw
>
> > > Go there and mess with the guy, Steve. It will be fun to watch you ****
> > > him
> > > off. hahaha
> > > I just "subscribed" to the group. I see a few ppl there from RFC
>
> > If you are talking about Baz, he doesn't post in the uk food group. He is
> > a
> > very nice gardener and was just asking how to use his dried beans
>
> He did not receive a warm welcome from "gtr" and others.
>
> But you just have to ignore anonymous bullies on usenet.
> ___________________________________________
> ??? gtr didn't gush and throw out w welcome mat but then gtr also said
> nothing to which anyone could consider to be the least bit offensive.

That whole "skull **** your mother" I considered offputting.

"Ophelia" > wrote in message
> "gtr" > wrote in message
> news:2013010215110411328-xxx@yyyzzz...
>> On 2013-01-02 21:55:13 +0000, Ophelia said:
>>
>>> "gtr" > wrote in message
>>> news:20130102133246678-xxx@yyyzzz...
>>>> On 2013-01-02 19:10:47 +0000, spamtrap1888 said:
>>>>
>>>>>> If you are talking about Baz, he doesn't post in the uk food group.
>>>>>> He is a
>>>>>> very nice gardener and was just asking how to use his dried beans
>>>>>
>>>>> He did not receive a warm welcome from "gtr" and others.
>>>>
>>>> Not true at all.
>>>>
>>>> Actually he got a very warm welcome from me, and I gave him advice on
>>>> how best to get his questions answered. Then he insulted me two or
>>>> three different ways for my effort. I then gave him a faux tongue
>>>> lashing and welcomed him yet again, though this time as a paranoid
>>>> nutcase.
>>>>
>>>>> But you just have to ignore anonymous bullies on usenet.
>>>>
>>>> That advice may well be tantamount to personal insult to some nutcases.
>>>
>>> I didn't come into it for a wee while because didn't realise who it was
>>> supposed to have posted. When I realised who it was supposed to be I
>>> spoke up.
>>>
>>> Please note who copied his denials in the gardening groups and the
>>> response to it - Here! And of course, who copied the supposed Baz
>>> posts
>>> from Here - into the gardening group! I rest my case! Baz is devastated
>>> and I fear he will never have the courage to post again
>>>
>>> I still do not believe it was Baz who wrote that, whatever the proof.
>>> He
>>> can be a bit prickly but not this!! Out of character!
>>
>> How very sad this whole affair has turned out. Please relay my heartfelt
>> good wishes to the person I didn't respond to (responding only to an
>> apparent marauder), for the things I didn't say to them--and especially
>> to
>> the way they were ill-interpreted as being to the person of the same
>> name.
>
> If I can work that out and If he ever posts again ... I will pass your
> message on

But you claimed that Baz was 'devastated' by his reception here when Baz
made no such post about how he felt. That claim is obviously pure invention
on your part.

You really do make yourself look like a prize goose with some of your
sillier statements. At least you do to anyone who can read for
comprehension. You do still manage to fool a few though.

"sf" wrote in message ...

On Wed, 2 Jan 2013 20:11:50 -0000, Janet > wrote:

> In article >,
> says...
> >
> > On Wed, 2 Jan 2013 16:23:56 +1000, "Bigbazza" > wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > "Janet" wrote in message
> > > ...
> > >
> > > In article >, times says...
> > > >
> > > > "Baz" > wrote in message
> > > >
> > > > > Wow. Insult taken.
> > > >
> > > > I just realised that you are the Baz who posts in urg!!!!!
> > >
> > > Sssssh; on urg Baz is busily trying to deny he has ever posted here
> > > on rfc
> > >
> > >
> > > Janet
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > LOL....:-)
> > >
> > > BB
> >
> > What's urg and if you've posted here, I certainly don't remember you.
>
> SF if you had ever posted in urg you wouldn't need to ask.
> .
> It's the abbreviation universally used by posters to uk.rec.gardening.
>
> Janet UK.

Thanks Janet, what I feel really stupid about is that I just realized
Baz or BB is Barry. He posts here on and off as Bigbazza and I didn't
make the Baz/BB connection before this. No idea who else he is or if
he really is a sometimes poster. I'm positive many posters here have
both multiple and serial personas because strangers jump into rfc with
group history etc. You know who the real newbies are because they act
like they're new.

I'd say Baz meant he doesn't use the Baz persona when he posts to rfc.
I'd rather people picked one posting name and stuck to it, but that's
a real pipe dream considering who nymshifts and who doesn't.





Hi, SF.......No, I am Bigbazza ....and have been since I first started
posting at the end of the 90's...I have never changed my ID over those
years.......I sign the bottom of my posts as Barry (Oz), and have done that
for a couple of years, whereas I used to sign the bottom of my posts as
Bigbazza before that....If I am feeling 'lazy', I sometimes just put BB
down, but my post always come through as Bigbazza.....

I definitely am not connected to the Baz guy that has popped in.....Maybe I
should have not made any passing comments like I just 'LOL'ed to Janet's
post....No wonder I confused you (or any others ) But I have posted on and
off in RFC over the past 12 years or so, SF...And will think from the
Bigbazza ID that shows when a post of mine shows up would identify me.... As
Peter also has said in his post to you, that I am Australian, and live in
Sydney (but, at present visiting my kids and grandkids in Brisbane,Oz)

I did realise after reading your post that you had confused me with this Baz
from the UK....But, there you go :-)

Barry Oz........( or BB)

"I'm back" wrote in message ...

sf > wrote in
:

> On Wed, 2 Jan 2013 20:11:50 -0000, Janet > wrote:
>
>> In article >,
>> says...
>> >
>> > On Wed, 2 Jan 2013 16:23:56 +1000, "Bigbazza" >
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > "Janet" wrote in message
>> > > ...
>> > >
>> > > In article >, times
>> > > says...
>> > > >
>> > > > "Baz" > wrote in message
>> > > >
>> > > > > Wow. Insult taken.
>> > > >
>> > > > I just realised that you are the Baz who posts in urg!!!!!
>> > >
>> > > Sssssh; on urg Baz is busily trying to deny he has ever posted
>> > > here
>> > > on rfc
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Janet
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > LOL....:-)
>> > >
>> > > BB
>> >
>> > What's urg and if you've posted here, I certainly don't remember
>> > you.
>>
>> SF if you had ever posted in urg you wouldn't need to ask.
>> .
>> It's the abbreviation universally used by posters to
>> uk.rec.gardening.
>>
>> Janet UK.
>
> Thanks Janet, what I feel really stupid about is that I just realized
> Baz or BB is Barry. He posts here on and off as Bigbazza and I didn't
> make the Baz/BB connection before this.


Pretty sure "Baz" is *not* "Bigbazza". "Baz" is a Pom, BB is Aussie.





Hi, Pete.....Read my reply to SF......

Did you see my reply to you yesterday on AFP?....You only visit there very
occasionally......Your should drop into ABLL sometimes and meet
them....that's alt.books.louis-lamour And it's not about books...:-)

Barry (Presently in Brisbane, Oz)

"spamtrap1888" > wrote in message
On Jan 2, 8:12 pm, "Farm1" > wrote:
> "spamtrap1888" > wrote in message
> On Jan 1, 5:57 am, "Ophelia" > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > "Gary" > wrote in
> > ...
> > > Sqwertz wrote:
>
> > >> On Tue, 1 Jan 2013 14:44:24 +1100, Farm1 wrote:
>
> > >> > You could always try the UK food group (uk.food+drink.misc) but do
> > >> > be
> > >> > aware
> > >> > that they can be far worse than this group. In particular do not
> > >> > offend
> > >> > Hyacinth Bucket in that group or you will need to leave it.
>
> > >> Somebody can actually make you leave a non-moderated Usenet group?
>
> > >> -sw
>
> > > Go there and mess with the guy, Steve. It will be fun to watch you
> > > ****
> > > him
> > > off. hahaha
> > > I just "subscribed" to the group. I see a few ppl there from RFC
>
> > If you are talking about Baz, he doesn't post in the uk food group. He
> > is
> > a
> > very nice gardener and was just asking how to use his dried beans
>
> He did not receive a warm welcome from "gtr" and others.
>
> But you just have to ignore anonymous bullies on usenet.
> ___________________________________________
> ??? gtr didn't gush and throw out w welcome mat but then gtr also said
> nothing to which anyone could consider to be the least bit offensive.

That whole "skull **** your mother" I considered offputting.
______________________________________
Sorry, I should have been clearer.

gtr didn't gush but nor did gtr say anything offensive UNTIL gtr was on the
receiving end of offensiveness.

"sf" > wrote in message

(snip)
> Thanks Janet, what I feel really stupid about is that I just realized
> Baz or BB is Barry. He posts here on and off as Bigbazza and I didn't
> make the Baz/BB connection before this.

They are 2 different people sf. Bigbazza is an Austrlaina who lives in
Sydney but who is currently in Brisbane. If you hit 'reply' to any of
Bigbazza's post you get: "Bigbazza" >

Then there is Baz, who posts in urg is a Brit. If you hit reply to any of
his posts here you get: "Baz" >

Also there are posts from the person who has the nym of The Real Baz. If
you hit 'reply' you will get: "The Real Baz" >

But if you do a 'properties' check on these posters, then it gets even more
itneresting. :-))

"Farm1" > wrote in :

> "sf" > wrote in message
>
> (snip)
>> Thanks Janet, what I feel really stupid about is that I just realized
>> Baz or BB is Barry. He posts here on and off as Bigbazza and I
>> didn't make the Baz/BB connection before this.
>
> They are 2 different people sf. Bigbazza is an Austrlaina who lives
> in Sydney but who is currently in Brisbane. If you hit 'reply' to any
> of Bigbazza's post you get: "Bigbazza" >
>
> Then there is Baz, who posts in urg is a Brit. If you hit reply to
> any of his posts here you get: "Baz" >
>
> Also there are posts from the person who has the nym of The Real Baz.
> If you hit 'reply' you will get: "The Real Baz" >
>
> But if you do a 'properties' check on these posters, then it gets even
> more itneresting. :-))
>
>
>


How so?

Bigbazza is the one person, and the other two are one person.



--
Peter
Brisbane
Australia

To be a warrior is not a simple matter of wishing to be one.
It is rather and endless struggle
that will go on to the very last moment of our lives.
Nobody is born a warrior,in exactly the same way that
nobody is born an average man.
We have to make ourselves into one or the other.
A warrior must only take care that his spirit is not broken.

On Jan 2, 8:43*pm, "Farm1" > wrote:
> "spamtrap1888" > wrote in message
>
> On Jan 2, 8:12 pm, "Farm1" > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > "spamtrap1888" > wrote in message
> > On Jan 1, 5:57 am, "Ophelia" > wrote:
>
> > > "Gary" > wrote in
> > > ...
> > > > Sqwertz wrote:
>
> > > >> On Tue, 1 Jan 2013 14:44:24 +1100, Farm1 wrote:
>
> > > >> > You could always try the UK food group (uk.food+drink.misc) but do
> > > >> > be
> > > >> > aware
> > > >> > that they can be far worse than this group. In particular do not
> > > >> > offend
> > > >> > Hyacinth Bucket in that group or you will need to leave it.
>
> > > >> Somebody can actually make you leave a non-moderated Usenet group?
>
> > > >> -sw
>
> > > > Go there and mess with the guy, Steve. It will be fun to watch you
> > > > ****
> > > > him
> > > > off. hahaha
> > > > I just "subscribed" to the group. I see a few ppl there from RFC
>
> > > If you are talking about Baz, he doesn't post in the uk food group. He
> > > is
> > > a
> > > very nice gardener and was just asking how to use his dried beans
>
> > He did not receive a warm welcome from "gtr" and others.
>
> > But you just have to ignore anonymous bullies on usenet.
> > ___________________________________________
> > ??? gtr didn't gush and throw out w welcome mat but then gtr also said
> > nothing to which anyone could consider to be the least bit offensive.
>
> That whole "skull **** your mother" I considered offputting.
> ______________________________________
> Sorry, I should have been clearer.
>
> gtr didn't gush but nor did gtr say anything offensive UNTIL gtr was on the
> receiving end of offensiveness.

There's a order of magnitude difference between putting on the
crankypants and being offensive.

On Jan 2, 8:34*pm, "Farm1" > wrote:
> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
> > "gtr" > wrote in message
> >news:2013010215110411328-xxx@yyyzzz...
> >> On 2013-01-02 21:55:13 +0000, Ophelia said:
>
> >>> "gtr" > wrote in message
> >>>news:20130102133246678-xxx@yyyzzz...
> >>>> On 2013-01-02 19:10:47 +0000, spamtrap1888 said:
>
> >>>>>> If you are talking about Baz, he doesn't post in the uk food group..
> >>>>>> He is a
> >>>>>> very nice gardener and was just asking how to use his dried beans
>
> >>>>> He did not receive a warm welcome from "gtr" and others.
>
> >>>> Not true at all.
>
> >>>> Actually he got a very warm welcome from me, and I gave him advice on
> >>>> how best to get his questions answered. *Then he insulted me two or
> >>>> three different ways for my effort. I then gave him a faux tongue
> >>>> lashing and welcomed him yet again, though this time as a paranoid
> >>>> nutcase.
>
> >>>>> But you just have to ignore anonymous bullies on usenet.
>
> >>>> That advice may well be tantamount to personal insult to some nutcases.
>
> >>> I didn't come into it for a wee while because didn't realise who it was
> >>> supposed to have posted. *When I realised who it was supposed to be I
> >>> spoke up.
>
> >>> Please note who copied his denials in the gardening groups and the
> >>> response to it - Here! *And of course, who copied the supposed Baz
> >>> posts
> >>> from Here - into the gardening group! I rest my case! *Baz is devastated
> >>> and I fear he will never have the courage to post again
>
> >>> I still do not believe it was Baz who wrote that, whatever the proof.
> >>> He
> >>> can be a bit prickly but not this!! * Out of character!
>
> >> How very sad this whole affair has turned out. *Please relay my heartfelt
> >> good wishes to the person I didn't respond to (responding only to an
> >> apparent marauder), for the things I didn't say to them--and especially
> >> to
> >> the way they were ill-interpreted as being to the person of the same
> >> name.
>
> > If I can work that out and If he ever posts again ... I will pass your
> > message on
>
> But you claimed that Baz was 'devastated' by his reception here when Baz
> made no such post about how he felt. *That claim is obviously pure invention
> on your part.
>
> You really do make yourself look like a prize goose with some of your
> sillier statements. *At least you do to anyone who can read for
> comprehension. *You do still manage to fool a few though.

They could go back a long way. They could know each other IRL. We
don't know, from the outside, how well two posters know each other.

Or she could be ****ing with you.